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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 41621 times:
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Starting this new thread (mainly because #3 has been archived) with a question: Is Jet about to cancel its BRU-JFK service?

For a couple of days, all flights after September 10 were unavailable. Most are now available again, but only at full fares. Airlineroute points out that it is the exact pattern that Jet followed leading up to the cancellation of its BOM-BAH service, with the end of the route announced a week after it switched to selling only full-fare tickets.

I don't think this is the prelude to moving its scissor hub because three months is pretty short to move its infrastructure elsewhere, but it may well be related to Brussels' opening of BRU-JFK. Perhaps the two carriers have concluded an agreement over the route.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 41246 times:

Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI and BRU-BRS (previously operated by BMI Regional).

Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Delta update W12 AMS
AMS-ATL increase from daily to 11 weekly
AMS-MSP twice daily 333 instead of 1 daily 333 and 1 daily 767


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5126 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 41133 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4676 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 41138 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

Most likely they will operate both on the same day (Saturday?) in a LUX-XCR-PMI-XCR-HER-XCR-LUX rotation (or PMI and HER reversed).



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 41082 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI

It's BRU-NCL  
Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):
Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

No. PMI operates one month, HER the other



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 41035 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
It's BRU-NCL

Indeed my mistake (always mix these two up)

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
No. PMI operates one month, HER the other

Correct, June 6th till June 27th PMI and June 21th till July 26th HER

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

Should be June 2012 til October 2012

[Edited 2012-06-09 03:54:39]

User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5126 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 41013 times:

Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

And is the KLM flight oprated by KLM cockpitcrew and HV cabincrew?


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 40855 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):
Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

No HV leases 2 B737-800s from KL for a few months.. They can appear on the entire HV network

BTW HV will also lease aircraft from FlyDubai, GOL and Kuluta this Summer

[Edited 2012-06-09 10:49:26]

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 40806 times:

EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 40378 times:
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Jet has officially cancelled BRU-JFK effective September 10. MAA-BRU will continue to operate as scheduled. Passengers bound for JFK will be re-booked on to EWR or on SN's flight.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/GL/PressReleases/BrusselsNewYorkPR.aspx

According to sources, Jet plans to eventually code-share with SN to JFK, but there's no firm date yet.

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.

I see 5x week. Was one frequency cancelled?



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 39954 times:

Its not EK just them code sharing on TNT flights.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 39632 times:

AMS

IB Express will take over the remaining 1 daily AMS-MAD flight from mainline IB (as of September 17th). After this date all IB flights will be IB Express.

RTM

BA has requested slots for a 3 daily RTM-LHR-RTM flight with A319 for W12 (this would mean a very large capacity increase for LON-RTM).
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair). However it remains unclear if these FR flights will materialise as in the past FR and RTM never could agree on the fees.


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5126 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 39552 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5126 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 39531 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 39428 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 13):
Any idea what route?

No, apparently they filed Dublin, but 5 daily RTM-DUB during W12 would be very strange and unrealistic....

Anyway, seeing is believing. I've my doubts about RTM as they don't have much capacity left (for S12 they've only 2,268 slots left, which means just over 5 dailies). Moreover next to the slot issue, there is the limit on the max number of pax per hour (currently at 650 pax at the same time for RTM) due to terminal space limitations (or better allowed space limitations).


User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 39320 times:

The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

410/411, 412/413 & 414/415



Airlines flown; AA, AC, AY, BA, BD, BY, CX, DA, DP, IB, KL, LH, LA, LP, MA & MH
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 39200 times:

Quoting 1peter (Reply 15):
The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

Moreover, the schedule currently in the slot allocation list is worthless for the average business traveller and looks like these flights are slot keeping flights (not that many would have thought this in the first place):

BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

How many connections are possible at LHR with this schedule? Looks like you're missing the entire morning bank.


User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39018 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 16):
BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

Interesting timings, good if you are traveling ex LHR, but not the best for the Dutch business man on a day trip! Lets just hope they perform well and are maintained for S13.



Airlines flown; AA, AC, AY, BA, BD, BY, CX, DA, DP, IB, KL, LH, LA, LP, MA & MH
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 38692 times:

Maastricht seems to be the 51th base for FR (see separate thread Ryanair Announces 51st Base- Maastricht (by santos Jul 3 2012 in Civil Aviation) ).

LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

CRL
FR will cancel Oudja - CRL as of October 1st and Fez - CRL will be reduced from 5 weekly to 2 weekly from the same date

BRU
BA will introduce an 8th daily flight as of January 27th 2013


User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 504 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 38687 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 18):
LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

Interesting to see that there is more and more capacity on the LUX-LON route, with CityJet now using ARJ85s instead of the F50 and BA introducing the new service.
From November there will be 10 flights a day then to London...quite impressive!!


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 38374 times:

Some SQC news regarding BeNeLux. AMS will see 9 weekly flights whilst BRU 7 weekly flights between July and August . It seems that SQC is reducing AMS in favour for BRU as the number of flights to BRU have increased whilst those to AMS have decreased (AMS used to be at least twice daily).

BTW for those having access to the SACN slot list should look at the drop down box where SACN mentions that SQ stands for Brussels Airlines...is this inside information of something we don't know anything about?  Wink

[Edited 2012-07-16 07:54:39]

User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 38267 times:

Flight UA973 returned back to BRU this morning after it suffered an impact with an unidentified object.

After the plane left with 70 minutes delay for it's flight to ORD it suffered a strike with a foreign object, shortly after take off the engine at portside made a rattling sound which stopped 10 minutes later. The crew made an announcement that there was an issue with the engine and that they idled the engine and would return back to BRU. Since the plane was over it's maximum landing weight it dumped fuel over the North Sea in the Knokke neighbourhood, after the fuel dump the plane landed safely at BRU. An engine investigation revealed that the fan blades showed impact by a hard object. A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.

Soure: Luchtzak.be


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 38253 times:

Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.
Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
rabbit

Reminds me of an issue some years ago. I think it was a Jetair 767 which had a strike with a rabbit in the Dominican Republic (or was it Cuba?). When the company explained a rabbit ended up in one engine, a passenger (who found himself rather smart and amusing) explained to the media that this was totally nonsense, because
...
he never saw a rabbit jump this high to end up in an aircraft engine !

Smart guy!



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User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 38252 times:

Brussels Airlines announced the figures for the first month of their new JFK operation. SN transported 13.113 passengers during the first month of operation (the route started on 01JUN2012) which gives an average of 78,3% on this new route.

Spread over it's entire network SN transported during the month June 540.409 passengers which is an increase of 2,7% compared to the same month last year. The entire loadfactor increased with 0,5% to 69,8%.

The best news came from their African operations which saw an increase of 16%, which can be explained due the added capacity and the new route from JFK. These figures however shows that the number of passengers in Europe didn't increase (even decreased) due cutting of routes and frequencies in their money-losing European network.

SN transported 2.762.922 passengers during the first 6 months of this year which is an increase of 3,1% compared to 2011. An average loadfactor wasn't announced however SN did tell that the average load did increase with 3,3% compared to 2011.


Source: Flightlevel.be / Brussels Airlines


User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 38238 times:

Apparently QR as asked for 3 additional slotpairs to increase their flights to BRU from DOH. QR wants to add 3 additional morning flights starting with this winterseason. If granted, QR will have 8 weekly flights between Brussels and Doha.

Also TG asked for 1 additional slotpair to add an additional flight which would take place on Sunday. Currently TG flies 3x a week between BKK and BRU. Recently it was announced that SN would codeshare with TG on the flights.

Source: Luchtzak


25 Post contains images bralo20 : You have to admit, it's rather funny
26 Post contains links LJ : RTM BA finally confirmed their 3 daily LHR-RTM flight. They'll be operated by the 319/320. There is a seperate thread for discussing this service. BA
27 kl911 : It is confirmed that Ryanair will keep its Groningen - Milan Bergamo flight for this winter. The flights to PMI and MRS will be ceased for the winter,
28 Post contains images Bralo20 : Brussels Airlines is flying a couple of thousand party animals from all across Europe to Brussels for the big Tomorrowland event. Brussels Airlines is
29 kl911 : Nice, what is this event? A festival? Where do they get those planes from in the middle of high season?
30 Post contains links Bralo20 : Tomorrowland is indeed an open air festival in Belgium in quite a nice park near Antwerp. It only started back in 2005 when they had less then 10.000
31 Bralo20 : Brussels Airlines press release about the Tomorrowland flights (sorry no link yet, it's not (yet) published on their site, only send by mail): [Edited
32 LJ : Some routenews AMS - Flybe will add new routes to AMS in W12. BHX-AMS will see 16 weekly flights. EMA-AMS will see a daily flight. All flights will be
33 Hooverman : Since CX is retiring the 744 I was kinda hoping for a 77W. Perhaps to many premium seats? I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared wi
34 Post contains images frigatebird : Not enough 77W's rather CX has a new 77W config without first class, but with Y+ (32 seats), Business (40 seats) and 268 standard Y seats. Pretty sur
35 hooverman : Thx for the info.
36 Post contains links bralo20 : Flemish media and MTV USA covered the story about Tomorrowland's co-operation with Brussels Airlines to fly in 2.000 partyanimals from arround the wor
37 LJ : In W12 its HKG-AMS-HKG again. This Summer its HKG-AMS-CDG-AMS-HKG when the 744 operates CX270/1
38 Post contains links and images Flanders : See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TjEROXd2k All happy passengers if you ask me
39 LJ : Some route news BRU Air Europe will start 13 weekly flights as of W12 with an E190 United will use the 767-400 on EWR-BRU between November 4th and Nov
40 tomcat : SN will add a weekly service to Mombasa from November 2d onwards. This is in continuation from one of the NBO services.
41 Post contains links and images tomcat : Some interesting upgrade of Brussels Airport has been revealed and is expected to be ready by the end of 2014. The tunnel between piers A and B will b
42 FlyingHollander : What is the exact reason for the cutting of LED-AMS?
43 Post contains links FlyingHollander : According to www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl American Airlines is cutting their flights to BRU.
44 Post contains links Bralo20 : Correct, it has it's own thread: AA To Cease Activities At BRU As Of 1 Nov (by edoca Aug 14 2012 in Civil Aviation)
45 LJ : ANR Cityjet will cancel its 6 weekly ANR-MAN flight as of September 17th AMS/LUX KLM wil increase AMS-LUX from 21 weekly flights to 27 weekly flights
46 LJ : Some route changes AMS LH reduces FRA-AMS from 7 daily to 6 daily BRU LH reduces from 10 daily to 8 daily Sn will deploy the A319 on BRU-MAN TG will u
47 thijs1984 : Meanwhile the flights of BA to RTM are no officially announced, so no slot warmers as for the time being. LH will start 2 x daily RTM-MUC as from Octo
48 LJ : easyJet will discontinue BCN-AMS and MAD-AMS in W12. MAD-AMS will be discontinued as of December 3rd and BCN-AMS as of October 27th.
49 Bralo20 : Flights will be operated by the 3-class Boeing 777-300ER leased from Jet Airways. So not only an upgrade from the -200 to the -300 but also 2 to 3-cl
50 LJ : MST Germanwings will cancel SXF-MST as of W12
51 tomcat : First 787 flight today to and from Brussels. ET was indeed operating its 787 to Brussels today. She landed slightly early this morning and departed to
52 thijs1984 : Some early news from HV for the Summer 2013 season New Route From Amsterdam: - OPO New Routes from Rotterdam: - Istanbul ( don't know if it will be IS
53 kl911 : I assume RTM - BUD will be replacing the 4 weekly AMS - BUD?
54 thijs1984 : I am not sure. More info will follow later.
55 Post contains links LJ : Air China Cargo is flying 5 times weekly from Shanghai to AMS. Routing will be Shanghai - Chengdu - Amsterdam 3 times weekly and Shanghai - Chongqing
56 Post contains links LJ : AMS FlyGeorgia will fly 3 times to AMS between September 30th and October 13th. No flights planned after October 13th Air Baltic will increase service
57 Post contains links SR4ever : LUX Sounds quite logical, some 2 yrs after LG cut its LUX-CDG route (code-shared with AF) from 4 down to 3 daily. Still, KLM has hardly been promoting
58 American 767 : According to Wikipedia (though I don t know if it is a valid source of info), SN will get rid of the last ex-Virgin 737s by the end of this year. SN i
59 330lover : Happy about that! The Avro's are for sure one beautiful looking aircraft, and from what I experienced a very comfy ride for sure ! They will need the
60 SR4ever : SN has already made it clear that they will soon phase out AR8s and AR1s. Too much guzzling...
61 LJ : Fares are not a good indication on the viability of a route. There is little to none local traffic on AMS-LUX (why go by air if you can use a car?).
62 Post contains links thijs1984 : Meanwhile in Rotterdam: http://www.luchtvaartfoto.nl/item/99...op_Rotterdam_The_Hague_Airport.htm the welcome of the first LH-flight to MUC
63 SR4ever : There is quite a lot of business traffic on LUX-AMS, for which a 5-hr drive on congested or run down motorways isn't suitable...
64 LJ : Eindhoven will become Transavia's third base in The Netherlands. Initially HV will base 3 737s at EIN (starting Spring 2013), but this may increase to
65 LJ : AMS China Airlines will reduce TPE-BKK-AMS in W12 from daily to 5 weekly (until December 1st) and 6 weekly (between December 1st and January 13th). As
66 Post contains links LJ : LUX Vueling will start BCN-LUX next Summer. Frequency will be 2 times weekly (see also thread Vueling Announcement At 1900 CET (by Alsatian Oct 16 201
67 LJ : AMS The Garuda flight will be routed via AUH instead of DXB as of December 2nd. BRU Meridianafly will start Olbia - Brussels from June 10th 2013 and S
68 flyingfool : Nice to have another A340 operator at AMS, allthoug it's just for a few months...
69 FlyingHollander : From April 4th on KLM will fly a F70 13x weekly (1x daily on saturday) to AES.
70 LJ : Reservations for AMS-MAD seem not to be possible after October 28th. The most likely explanation would be that IB will revert to mainline instead of I
71 blueflyer : For Summer 2013, United will operate sUA 777-200ER on ORD-BRU. EWR-BRU stays with 767-400ER.
72 Post contains links LJ : AMS BA reduces LGW-AMS during S13 from 28 weekly to 22 weekly), but increases LHR-AMS with 3 weekly flights during W12 (extra flights on Monday, Wedne
73 SR4ever : LUX LG has just terminated the Collective Labour Agreement regulating employment of its crew staff...[Edited 2012-11-04 14:07:03]
74 blueflyer : Last day of AA service at BRU today, after 20+ years. I'm told to make up for it, Ethiopian brought a 787 in...
75 Post contains links LJ : Also mentioned in the dedicated thread, KLM will launch twice daily Amsterdam - Manston as of S13 KLM To Fly Manston-Amsterdam From April 2 (by London
76 American 767 : That's right. I fly to BRU at Christmas using 40000 American Airlines miles. I have to fly JFK-LHR, connecting on BA to BRU, but that's not a problem
77 LJ : Garuda will increase JKT-AUH-AMS from 4 weekly to 6 weekly as of 22nd July 2013
78 Post contains links LJ : LUX LG is to start a once weekly LUX - DHV flight between April 21st and October 6th. Flight will be operated on Sundays with a Dash 8 Q400. EIN as me
79 SR4ever : Where is this?
80 blueflyer : Typo, should have been DBV, announced yesterday.
81 Post contains links LJ : Not much news lately but as per another thread LH has announced 12 weekly AMS-BER for S13 LH Announces BER - AMS In S13 (by factsonly Dec 11 2012 in C
82 KL911 : Don't forget the creation of a base at EIN by both HV and FR from February 2013.
83 LJ : FR will make EIN its 52nd base as of S13. It will base 1 737-800 at EIN. New routes: - Eindhoven - Agadir (1x weekly) - Eindhoven - Bordeaux (2x weekl
84 KL911 : Wizzair is increasing EIN - BUD from 11 to 14 weekly from march 2013. With FR included EIN will have 18 weekly flights to BUD. We don't know the detai
85 LJ : I doubt this as the criticism from FR concerned something political, something of which HV and Wizz Air mentioned was not correct (FR claimed that th
86 KL911 : Which in itself is good news again for Groningen Airport, my 'home' airport .
87 330lover : BRU will see the LOT 787 in January on a couple of flights: 05JAN 05JAN .....6. WAW BRU 0700 0910 LO 235 788*C 03JAN 10JAN ..34..7 WAW BRU 1620 1830 L
88 LJ : According to the website of Den Helder airport Loganiar/FlyBe will operate Manchester - Norwich - Den Helder as of March 4th. Flight will be operated
89 LJ : Some more news on Maastricht Airlines. The airline released its schedule. Flights as of March 25th 2013 MST dep 07:30 AMS arr 08:25 (mon - sat) AMS de
90 LJ : Other route news AMS AZ will cancel Turin - Amsterdam (thus will not resume as of S13) on January 15th.
91 factsonly : KLM has added frequencies to its Summer 2013 schedule for the following routes: - Athens - increase from 1x to 2x/daily B737 on Sat & Sun, plus da
92 LJ : FR will start a weekly CRL - ZTH as of April 1st 2013. KLM will also increase AMS-MAD from 35 weekly to 37 weekly from April 4th - June 30th and as of
93 LJ : Eastern Airways started flying once weekly AMS-NWI-AMS (Friday only). Flight will be operated with a Jetstream 41. Schedule is as follows: AMS dep 07:
94 factsonly : Starting 31 March 2013, Finnair is to commence MD11 Freighter operations from Brussels to HEL, JFK and ORD. The airline has selected Brussels as its E
95 blueflyer : According to Finnair Cargo, JFK and ORD are two separate flights. Proposed routes are HEL-JFK-BRU-HEL and HEL-BRU-ORD-HEL, with HEL-HKG vv in between
96 spantax : Does somebody have information about Thomas Cook Airlines (Belgium)? It seems the situation is very difficult, meetings are going on, etc. Some kind o
97 FlyingHollander : According to Luchtvaartnieuws.nl KLM will axe AMS-KRT-ADD. I never really understood this route. This leaves KQ as the sole Skyteam member at ADD. I w
98 LJ : Why?
99 FlyingHollander : Of course I get that KL wanted to serve ADD. They decided it would not be viable without a tag on. Ok, that's fine. However, I don't get why they chos
100 blueflyer : I can't speak as to why KLM chose KRT, but as to why KRT comes before ADD, I would think it is due to to cost. Stopping in ADD then back-tracking to K
101 Post contains links LJ : First, aid workers (one of the reasons this flights will be discontinued). Second, Sudan had oil (had as the place where the oil is, is now South Sud
102 Post contains links LJ : According to another thread ( KLM To End Sudan And Ethiopia (by AF022 Jan 10 2013 in Civil Aviation) ), KL will also discontinue IKA as of S13. Togeth
103 Post contains links LJ : Ethiad will start AUH-AMS as of May 15th (see also thread Etihad To Start AUH-AMS (by paneuropean Jan 14 2013 in Civil Aviation) ), making the total n
104 LJ : BMI Regional will axe Aberdeen - Groningen as of February 8th. The airline cites decling traffic figures and decided to axe Groningen after consultati
105 FlyingHollander : Unlike the other smaller airports in the Netherlands GRQ doesn't seem to be doing well. I think HV is about the only airline that could make some new
106 Post contains links LJ : BRU SN Brussels announced their next US destination, which will be IAD (see seperate thread Brussels Airlines Launch Washington (by seansasLCY Jan 30
107 LJ : We're already in February thus time to look at the traffic results of all airports in BeNeLux. Unfortunatele I couldn't find any traffic figures for L
108 LJ : Some route news AMS Pegasus will increase Bodrum - Amsterdam from 1 weekly to 2 weekly as of S13 Not surprising, but UA will not send the 787 to AMS t
109 KL577 : The major reason (from what I understood) was that KLM was not (or no longer?) allowed to exchange Birrs, from local sales, into Euros and get them o
110 LJ : Todays "De Telegraaf" has an article about how the business ties between The Netherlands and Ethiopia are growing. Probably not enough to support a f
111 LJ : Lufthansa cancelled its planned AMS-TXL flights. They planned 12 weekly flights with A319.
112 LJ : Some route news: LUX Cargolux has inaugurated a weekly cargo flight to Port Harcourt. The flight will operate LUX-LOS-PHC-FIH-NBO-LUX. AMS CZ will rep
113 factsonly : In Summer 2013 Delta Airlines will increase overall capacity USA-AMS by +10%. This is achieved by one additional daily B767-300 flight JFK-AMS (to 2x/
114 blueflyer : Apparently, Congo and Belgium have signed a new bilateral agreements that includes two additional weekly frequencies for a Belgian carrier, and Jetair
115 LJ : Update of the ranking by number of pax for 2012 1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%) 2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%) 3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%) 4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45
116 LJ : Last week, the first flight out of Manchester and Norwich arrived at Den Helder airport. This means that in addition to the scheduled helicopter fligh
117 SCL767 : Starting on 08JUN13, KL will also increase frequency on the AMS-UIO-GYE-AMS route to 6x weekly utilizing the B772.
118 Post contains images thijs1984 : You forgot RTM 1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%) 2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%) 3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%) 4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45%) 5- LUX 1.92mio (+7.26%) 6- RT
119 LJ : Thanks for their figures. couldn't find them on their website (any reason why they aren't mentioned anymore?).
120 Post contains links and images thijs1984 : The figures are still there http://www.rotterdamthehagueairport...._Airport/de_onderneming/VV_Cijfers
121 LJ : That I didn't look there....... How stupid can one be. Now the update of the other lists Cargo 1- AMS 1,511,851 (-/- 0.02%) 2- LUX 615,000 3- LGG 576
122 LJ : Loganair cancelled teh route as of today. it cites bad load factor. However, one wonders why they cancelled it so soon. Moreover, one would expect th
123 LJ : The launch of Maastricht Airflines has been postponed to May 1st. AMS TK will operate the MeridianaFly A330 on TK1953/4 as of June 4th daily except on
124 LJ : It seems as if Air China Cargo will increase their flights to AMS from 5 to 6 weekly as of Mays 1st. The new flight will operate Shanghai - Zhengzhou
125 KL911 : What's the logic behind that? There are airports just a few km across the border with loads of flights, and Twente is basically between Groningen air
126 LJ : My personal believe is that there isn't any logic, but tell that to the local politicians and a few business people who don't want to drive to FMO. T
127 LJ : GRQ is closed untill April 24th due to runway extension of their main runway (05-23). The runway will be extended till 2,500m (currently 1,800m). The
128 Post contains links LJ : AMS/MST Maastricht Airlines has postponed their launch again (see also seperate thread Maastricht Airlines Forced To Postpone Operations (by CrimsonNL
129 Post contains images KL577 : Lot's of people have great difficulties in identifying cause and effect. Although successful airports are often located in economically thriving regi
130 thijs1984 : ^^ Same applies to the plans to expand Lelystad airport. It's completely unnecessary to expand LEY. It's much better to utilize the capacity on other
131 LJ : AFAIK expanding RTM is politcally sensitive. Moreover, Lelystad should funtion as a secondary airport for Amsterdam (their plan is to oust all charte
132 LJ : At last, Den Helder has put its traffic figures on the internet (though I must admit I forgot to check) Number of pax 1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%) 2- BRU
133 thijs1984 : Yes and No. It used to be a very sensitive matter. But the politics have changed over the last 10 years due to the internet. And 9 out of 10 replies
134 LJ : LUX Luxair will resume LUX-CPH on June 3rd. The flight will be operated 6 weekly (no flight on Saturdays) with an Embrear 145. To be honest, the chanc
135 LJ : BRU JetairFly will inaugurate a weekly Brussels - Ras Al-Khaimah (UAE) with a techincal stop at Paphos (Cyprus) in W13 AMS Darwin Air is to start LEJ
136 LJ : Maastricht Airlines seems to postpone the launch of MST-AMS to at least September 3rd. According to some reports the F50s need an additional 1,800 hou
137 Post contains links 330lover : Apparently, AY is sending 343 to BRU on flights AY811/812, 06JUN + 13JUN. AY 343 To BRU Om 06JUN + 13JUN (by 330lover May 16 2013 in Civil Aviation)
138 LJ : Not very surprising (given their track record at AMS) but FlyGeorgia seems to have postponed inauguration of BRU until June 3rd.
139 Post contains links LJ : AMS Darwin announced CBG-AMS after they already announced LEJ - AMS for more details dee spereate thread on Darwins CBG base Darwin Airline Sets Up Ca
140 LJ : AMS AMS marketing team seems to be doing well as Air Algerie announcded it will (re)start Algiers - Amsterdam as of July. Howvever, though they announ
141 LJ : Maastricht airlines is bankrupt without flying a single mile. The airline filed for bankruptcy after an investor pulled out. Moreover, former employe
142 330lover : Reminder: tomorrow is the first AY flight to/from BRU operated by A340-300. Anyone present for some pics? It looks like weather will be nice!
143 LJ : AMS QR cargo will move its twice weekly DOH-AMS-ORD to MXP and thus fly DOH-MXP-ORD as of July 1st. Nippon Cargo will move (or has moved) one weekly f
144 LJ : This is incorrect. The QR will remain flying DOH-AMS-ORD twice weekly. The flights via MXP are in addition to these flights. Moroever, QR cargo start
145 Post contains links LJ : Some route news. LUX Cargolux added Muscat to its schedule AMS KL Cargo / Martinair has added AUH as a stop on its way to Asia. For the highlights of
146 Post contains links LJ : According to a rumour thread on www.scramble.nl 7 KLC F70s will be replaced by EMB190s starting November 2013. The 7 F70s will be replaced by 6 ER9s w
147 debonair : Short questions regarding Arkefly, At least for me in a surprise move, Arkefly is leasing this summer very well used B737-300/400 from Slovakian carri
148 LJ : As far as I know no lie flat. It's also not mentioned on their website. From their websiteb you get: - 1.1m leg room and a "comfortable seat" - 7KG h
149 JRadier : The 737-400 aircraft have both Premium Comfort and Comfort Class
150 factsonly : Starting 14 July 2013, a company called MAGMA Aviation will commence 2x weekly B747-400 Full Freighter services from BRU to LFW - BZV and FIH with con
151 Post contains links and images LJ : They have one together with MyCargo. View Large View MediumPhoto © Helmut Schnichels[Edited 2013-07-05 11:31:17]
152 blueflyer : Ethiopian is cancelling the BRU tag-on to ADD-CDG effective December 1st. I'm surprised they weren't able to make the flight work. Perhaps the CDG sto
153 LO231 : SN flight from Ouagadougou shows 343 equipment, didnt realize they had it? Also, will ANR see some changes in coming months? Thanks.
154 OOSGB : It seems that the main traffic from BRU for ET was heading to FBM (Lubumbashi) in DRC and KGL. Yet with SN partnership with Korongo, ET flight time (
155 Post contains links SCL767 : KLM interested in operating AMS-BOG... Link in Spanish: http://www.portafolio.co/negocios/klm-busca-pista-colombia
156 LJ : I wonder how many times KL will try BOG. They failed twice before.. Then again BOG may join the list of destinations in Latin America where both AF e
157 SCL767 : AF-KL will continue to be active in the region due to the strong economic growth certain Latin American countries are experiencing; as well as northb
158 Post contains links LJ : And now confirmed as in this thread KLM To Acquire 6 Additional E190s (by LAXintl Jul 24 2013 in Civil Aviation) It was also the limited Panama - The
159 factsonly : Cargolux is launching 2x/weekly B747F service LUX-AMS-MIA-AMS-LUX on Thursdays and Sundays.
160 LJ : Emirates confirmed their 2nd daily DXB-AMS flight today. They'll operate an evening flight as of December 4th with a 77L. Schedule will be EK149 dep D
161 kl911 : Groningen airport confirms Ryanair will not continue the Bergamo flight this winter like they did last year. It's a shame since it offered me great co
162 SR4ever : 2 1/2 yrs after closing down LUX-DUB, LG will re-start this route on a 4-weekly basis, with Q400s in lieu of ER3 or 4.
163 thijs1984 : TK has confirmed they will start the IST-RTM route as from 4th March 2014 This makes Turkish airlines the 3rd mainline carrier that adds Rotterdam to
164 factsonly : When BA pulls off the LHR--RTM route, no doubt.
165 LJ : To be complete here the proposed schedule for RTM: 4 weekly (Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday) with 737-800 Arr RTM 14:55 dep RTM 15:45 They prob
166 LJ : CRL Wizz Air will start 2 weekly SKP - CRL as of April 16th 2014. The route will be flown on Wednesday and Sunday with following schedule: dep SKP 180
167 thijs1984 : Why? the new winter schedule for LHR-RTM is online now and it's still showing flights till the end of the winter season. Should not see why BA would
168 LJ : When did AF/KL announce this???? Moreover, AFAIK the slots are held by AF and not Cityjet. I missdied this as I didn't loioked at the airline which r
169 thijs1984 : Not yet. But i guess it's all going to be announced when the deal for Cityjet is finalized. correct. But i have reasons to believe that the start of
170 LJ : However, if they end the contract, then this would also mean the end of AMS-LCY, a route which AF/KL will never abondon as this is the prime route fo
171 thijs1984 : Dont't know if that is true. But you seem to know that. I suppose you're correct when it comes to the AF/KL point of view. however there might be sce
172 SR4ever : Agreed, but AF/KL could operate this route in a different way, using F70s or E90s of KLM CityHopper, rather than AR8s of CityJet.
173 LO231 : I still wonder if ANR will get some charters... Passed the airport yesterday, they are really busy with extending the runway works..... Inwish KL and
174 LJ : KL won't be back for sure. The flight is too short and KL is not going to waste valuable slots for such a flight.
175 SASMD82 : Correct. With the train (Thalys) it takes around 1 hour. The question remains, why did AF/KL refuse to take over Citijet within the KLM cityhopper/R
176 KL911 : But often on this route Ryanair is still cheaper with bag incl then Wizz with bags incl. At least you don't pay for hand luggage on Ryanair like you
177 LJ : As mentioned in another thread, AF/KL owns the slots for AMS/RTM - LCY. Moreover, CityJet is/was 100% owned by AF/KL and it's unclear if the sale of
178 LO231 : My perfect scenario would be, KL back to ANR, Wizzair to WAW, and charters from here, but love EIN anyway....
179 blueflyer : Ethiopian cancelled the cancellation of the BRU tag-on... Operations continuing as usual.
180 LJ : Air One will start the following service in S14 CTA - AMS 2 weekly (Tuesday, Sunday) as of April 6th 2014 PMO - AMS 2 weekly (Wednesday, Sunday) as of
181 777way : PIA may resume AMS from spring.
182 SCL767 : Chile's DGAC has approved KLM's plans to resume services into SCL. KLM will operate AMS-EZE-SCL 3x weekly with the 77W starting in February.
183 LJ : HV will start the following new flights: EIN - ATH 3 weekly as of April 18th 2014 (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) AMS - SKG 3 weekly as of April 17th 2
184 LJ : KL announced the resumption of SCL (as an extension of the current flights to EZE) as of February 2nd. The EZE flight will move to an evening departu
185 LO231 : You wouldnt believe how many pax from North Belgium use KL services... Thalys works fine but with Fyra trains being what they are, KL restricted itse
186 Post contains links LJ : Some route news AMS U2 wil start BOD-AMS-BOD as of S14 (4 weekly) See also New Easyjet Destinations From BOD - S14 (by AF777300ER Oct 3 2013 in Civil
187 Post contains images thijs1984 : Let hope these plan will not materialize. that would be an overkill. all regional airpots in the netherlands execpt RTM and EIN are struggeling to ac
188 LJ : BRU U2 will start BRU - NAP as of S14. The flight will be 4 weekly (Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday). Moreover as Lelystad will be a commercial
189 Post contains links thijs1984 : Turkish airlines intends to expand the operations in the Netherlands Article (sorry Dutch only) http://luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL/Art...kish_Airlines_v
190 Bralo20 : Brussels will be connected with Charlotte,NC next year thanks to US Airways which will start the route: EFF 05JUN2014 US 762 CLT-BRU 16h30 - 07h00+1 d
191 LO231 : 762 to Charlotte? How do they want to fill it up unless codeshare with SN for flights beyond NC.... And US reputation hit Belgium beforehand.... Phila
192 blueflyer : PHL is up to a daily 767 in season now. I don't expect a code-share with Brussels Airlines since US Airways is set to leave Star and join Oneworld as
193 LJ : Ryanair will start Eindhoven - Knock as of S14. The flight will be operated on Tuesday and Saturday.
194 thijs1984 : Was just about to post thesame news. Good luck for Ryaniar, the route does not seem a huge market at first glance. BA now intends to keep the number
195 factsonly : Aeroflot and KLM are each raising SVO-AMS-SVO to 3x daily, for a total of 6x daily on the route from June 1st, 2014. The airlines codeshare on each ot
196 lhrlocal : Hi hope someone can help - i caught my flight home yesterday from Luxembourg Findel (BA419), as i was queing for security i watched a white cargo 4 en
197 Post contains links factsonly : Could you have witnessed the departure of one of these two Ukrainian Antonov aircraft on 31st Oct 2013: http://luxspotting.darkbb.com/t4385-...raine-a
198 Post contains images lhrlocal : Perfect, thats the one UR-CAJ ! Many thanks Ben
199 LJ : This week the province of Limburg decided to keep on supporting Maastricht Airport with an additional 3-4mio a year. Moreover, the province of Limburg
200 bmibaby737 : I see that Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium is down to just 1x Airbus A319 and 3x Airbus A320s, this doesn't seem like a lot?
201 SCL767 : For the N14 season, KLM will increase frequency on the AMS-EZE-SCL route to 4x weekly (77W 3x weekly and 772 weekly). Great news for SCL considering
202 blueflyer : Thomas Cook decided earlier this year to fold TC Airlines Belgium and Condor into Thomas Cook Airlines (UK). Operations in Belgium and Germany will c
203 LJ : Vueling is starting FCO - AMS and FCO - BRU in S14. FCO - AMS will be 6 weekly from June 24th and daily from September 15th. FCO - BRU will be 6 weekl
204 factsonly : BA CityFlyer opens LCY-RTM-LCY 5x/weekdays with Saab2000 of Eastern Airways. and BA CityFlyer increases LCY-AMS-LCY to 6x/weekdays on Tue, Wed, Thu on
205 Post contains links nuckleuz : Ryanair will start BRU-FCO in 2014. http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL...ussels_Airport_naar_Rome_Fiumicino
206 sassiciai : Woah! The recent moves by Ryanair to relax some its more draconian rules are welcomed (second piece of hand luggage, 24 hours to rectify minor bookin
207 Scorpio : Strangely enough (well, perhaps not really, it IS Ryanair) Brussels Airport have said in a reaction to this news that they have no idea what Ryanair
208 GILLESPATRICK : I hope Mister OL has something behind is mind , what's the point of sending just one plane to BRU ( where he will pay more taxes then in CRL ) , I hop
209 brubiac : Emirates has requested slots for DXB - BRU starting 01/08/2014 Daily 77W STA: 1205 STD: 1450 EK183/184
210 Post contains links blueflyer : Ryanair will base 4 aircraft at BRU and offer flights to 10 cities. See list at: http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/ryana...ussels-zaventem-base-from-feb-
211 blueflyer : I suppose it was only a matter of time. Starting with their second biggest aircraft too, they must be quite confident in the market.
212 SASMD82 : Nice for BRU. Will AMS become a Ryanair destination too? And how much will canabalise passengers from Charleroi to Brussels?
213 Owleye : Maybe. This is the news of today: Ryanair is negotiating with Schiphol AMS to operate there as well and within 5 years. That is what O'Leary told the
214 GILLESPATRICK : Good move from EK , about time , as 9W is leaving soon BRU , opening the gates to EK to take over
215 Scorpio : 9W doesn't enter into the discussion: 9W's flights are all in the morning, this EK flight will arrive in the afternoon. Plenty of empty gates at BRU
216 sassiciai : To take over what, exactly? You are aware of the EY and QR service to AUH and DOH respectively, not to forget Turkish either, running already for yea
217 blueflyer : I don't think anyone is under the impression that Emirates will swoop into the airport and traffic will magically switch away from other carriers, ho
218 g2scandinavia : Probably in wrong thread but EK has also slots for EK159/160 DXB-OSL starting 1.AUG S14. About time both BRU and OSL gets an EK service. Also to menti
219 GILLESPATRICK : Well I thought that 9W was going to leave BRU in the months to come for AMS James Hogan, the CEO of Etihad Airways has made an announcement at Amster
220 OOSGB : Well, as regards 9W in Brussels, nothing is really clear. 9W recently declared that BRU was à "long-term commitment" and that while AMS attracts DEL
221 Post contains images brubiac : Tomorrow 1th December QR is going to start with their 787-8 between DOH and BRU
222 blueflyer : Another statement by Etihad had a slightly different version. The new strategy would involve two scissor hubs, one in AMS and one in AUH. AUH would ba
223 bmibaby737 : Brussels Airlines contract for 2x of the Dash 8 Q400s from Flybe expires at the end of March, with the other 2x aircraft having their contract expire
224 Post contains links LJ : As already mentioned in another thread, Luxemburg approves the sale of 35% of Cargolux. Luxemburg Approves Cargolux Sale To China (by LAXintl Nov 29 2
225 SCL767 : KLM has opened reservations for the EZE-SCL-EZE sectors on the AMS-EZE-SCL route. KL701 EZE 09:10 SCL 11:20 77W 1-3-5 KL702 SCL 13:00 EZE 14:55 77W 1-
226 factsonly : During the Summer of 2013, Jet Airways requested slots at AMS for the following services: - DEL-AMS-YYZ - YYZ-AMS-DEL - BOM-AMS - AMS-BOM The reason
227 brubiac : For summer 2014 9W has still there slots for BRU. On the BOM - BRU - EWR leg it would again be with the 77W, the other flights with A330-300
228 Post contains links 330lover : According to this article (in Dutch), EK got the slots they requested for BRU. http://nieuws.vtm.be/binnenland/70512-ook-emirates-komt-naar-zaventem S
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