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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 42011 times:
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Starting this new thread (mainly because #3 has been archived) with a question: Is Jet about to cancel its BRU-JFK service?

For a couple of days, all flights after September 10 were unavailable. Most are now available again, but only at full fares. Airlineroute points out that it is the exact pattern that Jet followed leading up to the cancellation of its BOM-BAH service, with the end of the route announced a week after it switched to selling only full-fare tickets.

I don't think this is the prelude to moving its scissor hub because three months is pretty short to move its infrastructure elsewhere, but it may well be related to Brussels' opening of BRU-JFK. Perhaps the two carriers have concluded an agreement over the route.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 41636 times:

Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI and BRU-BRS (previously operated by BMI Regional).

Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Delta update W12 AMS
AMS-ATL increase from daily to 11 weekly
AMS-MSP twice daily 333 instead of 1 daily 333 and 1 daily 767


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 41523 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4722 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 41528 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

Most likely they will operate both on the same day (Saturday?) in a LUX-XCR-PMI-XCR-HER-XCR-LUX rotation (or PMI and HER reversed).



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 41472 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI

It's BRU-NCL  
Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):
Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

No. PMI operates one month, HER the other



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 41425 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
It's BRU-NCL

Indeed my mistake (always mix these two up)

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
No. PMI operates one month, HER the other

Correct, June 6th till June 27th PMI and June 21th till July 26th HER

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

Should be June 2012 til October 2012

[Edited 2012-06-09 03:54:39]

User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 41403 times:

Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

And is the KLM flight oprated by KLM cockpitcrew and HV cabincrew?


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 41245 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):
Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

No HV leases 2 B737-800s from KL for a few months.. They can appear on the entire HV network

BTW HV will also lease aircraft from FlyDubai, GOL and Kuluta this Summer

[Edited 2012-06-09 10:49:26]

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 41196 times:

EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 40768 times:
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Jet has officially cancelled BRU-JFK effective September 10. MAA-BRU will continue to operate as scheduled. Passengers bound for JFK will be re-booked on to EWR or on SN's flight.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/GL/PressReleases/BrusselsNewYorkPR.aspx

According to sources, Jet plans to eventually code-share with SN to JFK, but there's no firm date yet.

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.

I see 5x week. Was one frequency cancelled?



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 40344 times:

Its not EK just them code sharing on TNT flights.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 40022 times:

AMS

IB Express will take over the remaining 1 daily AMS-MAD flight from mainline IB (as of September 17th). After this date all IB flights will be IB Express.

RTM

BA has requested slots for a 3 daily RTM-LHR-RTM flight with A319 for W12 (this would mean a very large capacity increase for LON-RTM).
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair). However it remains unclear if these FR flights will materialise as in the past FR and RTM never could agree on the fees.


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 39942 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 39921 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 39818 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 13):
Any idea what route?

No, apparently they filed Dublin, but 5 daily RTM-DUB during W12 would be very strange and unrealistic....

Anyway, seeing is believing. I've my doubts about RTM as they don't have much capacity left (for S12 they've only 2,268 slots left, which means just over 5 dailies). Moreover next to the slot issue, there is the limit on the max number of pax per hour (currently at 650 pax at the same time for RTM) due to terminal space limitations (or better allowed space limitations).


User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 39710 times:

The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

410/411, 412/413 & 414/415



Airlines flown; AA, AC, AY, BA, BD, BY, CX, DA, DP, IB, KL, LH, LA, LP, MA & MH
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 39590 times:

Quoting 1peter (Reply 15):
The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

Moreover, the schedule currently in the slot allocation list is worthless for the average business traveller and looks like these flights are slot keeping flights (not that many would have thought this in the first place):

BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

How many connections are possible at LHR with this schedule? Looks like you're missing the entire morning bank.


User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 39408 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 16):
BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

Interesting timings, good if you are traveling ex LHR, but not the best for the Dutch business man on a day trip! Lets just hope they perform well and are maintained for S13.



Airlines flown; AA, AC, AY, BA, BD, BY, CX, DA, DP, IB, KL, LH, LA, LP, MA & MH
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 39082 times:

Maastricht seems to be the 51th base for FR (see separate thread Ryanair Announces 51st Base- Maastricht (by santos Jul 3 2012 in Civil Aviation) ).

LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

CRL
FR will cancel Oudja - CRL as of October 1st and Fez - CRL will be reduced from 5 weekly to 2 weekly from the same date

BRU
BA will introduce an 8th daily flight as of January 27th 2013


User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 513 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 39077 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 18):
LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

Interesting to see that there is more and more capacity on the LUX-LON route, with CityJet now using ARJ85s instead of the F50 and BA introducing the new service.
From November there will be 10 flights a day then to London...quite impressive!!


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 38764 times:

Some SQC news regarding BeNeLux. AMS will see 9 weekly flights whilst BRU 7 weekly flights between July and August . It seems that SQC is reducing AMS in favour for BRU as the number of flights to BRU have increased whilst those to AMS have decreased (AMS used to be at least twice daily).

BTW for those having access to the SACN slot list should look at the drop down box where SACN mentions that SQ stands for Brussels Airlines...is this inside information of something we don't know anything about?  Wink

[Edited 2012-07-16 07:54:39]

User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 38657 times:

Flight UA973 returned back to BRU this morning after it suffered an impact with an unidentified object.

After the plane left with 70 minutes delay for it's flight to ORD it suffered a strike with a foreign object, shortly after take off the engine at portside made a rattling sound which stopped 10 minutes later. The crew made an announcement that there was an issue with the engine and that they idled the engine and would return back to BRU. Since the plane was over it's maximum landing weight it dumped fuel over the North Sea in the Knokke neighbourhood, after the fuel dump the plane landed safely at BRU. An engine investigation revealed that the fan blades showed impact by a hard object. A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.

Soure: Luchtzak.be


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 38643 times:

Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.
Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
rabbit

Reminds me of an issue some years ago. I think it was a Jetair 767 which had a strike with a rabbit in the Dominican Republic (or was it Cuba?). When the company explained a rabbit ended up in one engine, a passenger (who found himself rather smart and amusing) explained to the media that this was totally nonsense, because
...
he never saw a rabbit jump this high to end up in an aircraft engine !

Smart guy!



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User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 38642 times:

Brussels Airlines announced the figures for the first month of their new JFK operation. SN transported 13.113 passengers during the first month of operation (the route started on 01JUN2012) which gives an average of 78,3% on this new route.

Spread over it's entire network SN transported during the month June 540.409 passengers which is an increase of 2,7% compared to the same month last year. The entire loadfactor increased with 0,5% to 69,8%.

The best news came from their African operations which saw an increase of 16%, which can be explained due the added capacity and the new route from JFK. These figures however shows that the number of passengers in Europe didn't increase (even decreased) due cutting of routes and frequencies in their money-losing European network.

SN transported 2.762.922 passengers during the first 6 months of this year which is an increase of 3,1% compared to 2011. An average loadfactor wasn't announced however SN did tell that the average load did increase with 3,3% compared to 2011.


Source: Flightlevel.be / Brussels Airlines


User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 38628 times:

Apparently QR as asked for 3 additional slotpairs to increase their flights to BRU from DOH. QR wants to add 3 additional morning flights starting with this winterseason. If granted, QR will have 8 weekly flights between Brussels and Doha.

Also TG asked for 1 additional slotpair to add an additional flight which would take place on Sunday. Currently TG flies 3x a week between BKK and BRU. Recently it was announced that SN would codeshare with TG on the flights.

Source: Luchtzak


User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 38947 times:

Quoting 330lover (Reply 22):
he never saw a rabbit jump this high to end up in an aircraft engine !

You have to admit, it's rather funny 


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 38833 times:

RTM

BA finally confirmed their 3 daily LHR-RTM flight. They'll be operated by the 319/320. There is a seperate thread for discussing this service. BA To Start Rotterdam- The Hague (by paneuropean Jul 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

LUX

Luxair will terminate LUX-TRN as of August 1st. However, LUX-MXP will see and extra flight on Weekdays (operated by ER4).

New flight
LG6995 dep LUX 13:55 arr MXP 15:05
LG6996 dep MXP 15:35 arr LUX 16:45

This means that passengers now have a mid day opportunity between Milan and Luxemburg


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 27, posted (2 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 39194 times:

It is confirmed that Ryanair will keep its Groningen - Milan Bergamo flight for this winter.

The flights to PMI and MRS will be ceased for the winter, as is the GRQ - BCN Vueling flight.


User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 38902 times:

Brussels Airlines is flying a couple of thousand party animals from all across Europe to Brussels for the big Tomorrowland event. Brussels Airlines is a Tomorrowland partner and agreed to offer special charter flights between several European towns and Brussels. SN will operate 25 charterflights for the Tomorrowland event in Belgium. The planes received special decals to promote this event and also the interior is decorated. Several (famous?) DJ's will fly on these flights to Brussels as well.

Some Instagram pictures:



User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 29, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 38753 times:

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 28):
Brussels Airlines is flying a couple of thousand party animals from all across Europe to Brussels for the big Tomorrowland event.

Nice, what is this event? A festival?

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 28):
SN will operate 25 charterflights for the Tomorrowland event in Belgium

Where do they get those planes from in the middle of high season?


User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 38709 times:

Tomorrowland is indeed an open air festival in Belgium in quite a nice park near Antwerp. It only started back in 2005 when they had less then 10.000 visitors on the festival, however Tomorrowland became bigger and bigger during the next couple of years and it was actually made famous by the stages in the park, when you walk through Tomorrowland you'll think you walk through a fairytale, the scene is just awesome. Combine this with popular dancemusic and you'll get one heck of a party. The biggest DJ's from all over the world have Tomorrowland as their highlight in their season, some of them even "beg" to let them perform, most of them because of the awesome atmosphere during the festival. To give you an example how popular this event is: 180.000 tickets where made available (which is the maximum capacity spread over 3 days, so 60.000 per day), 80.000 of them exclusively for Belgians, when the presale for Belgium opened up all available tickets where sold that same day (including a waiting list of 250.000 people), when the other 100.000 tickets went for sale, every single ticket was sold in less then 2 hours with an even bigger waiting list. Over 400 DJ's will perform during these 3 days, including big names like David Guetta, Swedish House Maffia and many many more.

The organisation of this event teamed up with Brussels Airlines to offer a small amount of charterflights including tickets for the festival and campingground. The response was even bigger then expected, from the USA alone over 3.000 people registered for the package. In the end, probably looking at capacity SN decided that it could offer 25 flights for Tomorrowland visitors leaving from 17 different cities throughout Europe and New York (though for New York they blocked only part of the regular flight due lack of planes, and I guess they did it for other destinations too).

If you like to read more about Tomorrowland you can go to it's website tomorrowland.com or search on Wikipedia.

AFAIK this is the first time (certainly in Belgium, maybe even global) that a festival charters jets to fly in visitors from around the globe. On the flight of Barcelona 3 DJ's were present to have a DJ set during the flight to Brussels. To make it complete, the organisation had made the Tommorowland logo in a grain field visible during the approach. Since several media were covering this (including MTV), I think a video will be put online about the flights.

BTW: The festival will be live broadcast worldwide through Youtube.

To give you an idea, a movie about last year's edition viewed more then 44 million times on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CdTAiaLes


Since the success of this I can see it repeated next year, maybe even with a bigger amount of "partyflights".

[Edited 2012-07-26 09:47:41]

User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 38672 times:

Brussels Airlines press release about the Tomorrowland flights (sorry no link yet, it's not (yet) published on their site, only send by mail):

Quote:


Brussels Airlines welcomes 25 flights with visitors for Tomorrowland

25 Brussels Airlines flights are departing from 17 different cities today to bring more than 2,000 passengers from Europe and far beyond to Brussels Airport. All these passengers have the same destination: Tomorrowland. On Monday 30 July they will all return home after a weekend of partying at the festival in Boom.. Those flying in from Barcelona were surprised during the flight by a unique live DJ set by Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike and Yves V.

From the Big Apple to Moscow

Tomorrowland noticed a growing demand from people abroad wanting to visit the festival and decided to enter into a partnership with Brussels Airlines. Attractive travel packages were put on offer, including flight, festival ticket and hotel accommodation or tickets for the DreamVille camping. The concept proved to be a success: the packages were sold out in a matter of hours.

Today more than 2,000 passengers landed at Brussels Airport, coming from NYC, Rome, Madrid, London, Stockholm, Prague, Geneva, Barcelona, Milan, Berlin, Manchester, Copenhagen, Porto, Budapest, Bilbao, Lisbon and Moscow on Brussels Airlines flights. The first flight, originating from NYC, landed at 6h25 and the last one, coming in from London, lands tonight at 20h05.

Upon departure, the passengers checked in at a Tomorrowland desk and were accompanied by special hostesses. When they arrived at Brussels Airport, friendly Tomorrowland hostesses were again on hand to welcome them. From there, they left for the hotel or DreamVille by Tomorrowland transport. After the festival, on Monday 30 July, the passengers will be brought back to Brussels Airport.

Debby Wilmsen, Tomorrowland’s press officer: “For us as well as for Brussels Airlines, service and safety come first. We therefore considered it a good match, and the icing on the cake is that we are able to decorate a plane in Tomorrowland livery, both inside and out! As soon as you board the aircraft, you’re in the right atmosphere: through this partnership, we are able to start the party while the passengers are still in the air.”

Christian Dumortier, marketing manager at Benelux Brussels Airlines: “Thanks to this partnership with Tomorrowland, we are able to associate our airline with a fantastic Belgian music festival which is incredibly popular in virtually all our European destinations. In no time at all more than 2,000 flight tickets were booked. Like Brussels Airlines, Tomorrowland has opted for quality and creativity. Out of these ingredients a great partnership has emerged, full of creative surprises, like the unique DJ flight and the giant Ferris wheel.”

DJs on board

DJ duo Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike and Antwerp DJ Yves V surprised the passengers who departed from Barcelona with a DJ set on board. The DJs played a set at an altitude of more than 10,000 metres to warm up the enthusiastic crowd of 140 passengers and to set the tone for three fantastic days at Tomorrowland. Upon arrival at DreamVille they were able to continue the dancing to the beats of The Gathering, the traditional DreamVille party that takes place the day before the festival opens.

The treat is on Brussels Airlines

At Tomorrowland, Brussels Airlines will bring the visitors' heads in the clouds for a brief moment: the main attraction at Tomorrowland 2012 is Europe’s tallest ferris wheel : The Brussels Airlines Cloud Rider. Nearly 60 metres high, the wheel was brought in from Düsseldorf and 20 mechanics were responsible for constructing it. The 40 pods can each hold 8 passengers at a time, meaning 2,200 passengers per go. Thanks to Brussels Airlines, all Tomorrowland visitors will be treated to a free ride on the wheel. The personal code on their special Tomorrowland boarding pass also gives them a chance of winning some really great flight prizes, including one year of free flights with Brussels Airlines.

On Friday 27 July at 12.00, the festival starts. The organisers are expecting 180,000 visitors and 35,000 DreamVille guests. The festival ends at midnight on Sunday 29 July. This year, those who stay at home can also enjoy the festival thanks to Tomorrowland TV: seven hours of live television on the Tomorrowland YouTube channel with live sets, interviews, extras and the all-important look behind the scenes.

Brussels Airlines, 26 July 2012


[Edited 2012-07-26 10:11:25]

Something I forgot to mention but it's in the release: SN also sponsored the largest ferris wheel in Europe to be put up at Tomorrowland, it's 60m high and a ride on it is for free.


[Edited 2012-07-26 10:14:19]

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 38655 times:

Some routenews

AMS
- Flybe will add new routes to AMS in W12. BHX-AMS will see 16 weekly flights. EMA-AMS will see a daily flight. All flights will be operated with DH4.
- KL will resume HRE as of W12. The flight will be combined with LUN and routing will be AMS-HRE-LUN-AMS.
- FV will cancel their 5 weekly LED-AMS flight as of W12.
- CX will deploy the A340-300 on all daily flights again.

EIN
- FR will cancel ACE-EIN and MAD-EIN as of November 2012

BRU
- SN will take over EDI-BRU is W12. SN will start with 6 weekly A319, but as of March 2013 it will be 12 weekly AR8.


User currently onlineHooverman From Netherlands, joined Oct 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 38586 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 32):
- CX will deploy the A340-300 on all daily flights again.

Since CX is retiring the 744 I was kinda hoping for a 77W. Perhaps to many premium seats?
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?


User currently onlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 38429 times:

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
Since CX is retiring the 744 I was kinda hoping for a 77W. Perhaps to many premium seats?

Not enough 77W's rather   CX has a new 77W config without first class, but with Y+ (32 seats), Business (40 seats) and 268 standard Y seats. Pretty sure after the A340s are retired this kind of 77W will go to AMS, but at the moment CX only has 2 of those aircraft in their fleet. There are more coming though.

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?

Flight times indicate that it is still a direct flight...



146,318/19/20/21,AB6,332,343,345,388,722,732/3/4/5/G/8,9,742,74E,744,752,762,763,772,77E,773,77W,AT4/7,ATP,CRK,E90,F50/7
User currently offlinehooverman From Netherlands, joined Oct 2011, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 38183 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 34):

Thx for the info.


User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 38185 times:

Flemish media and MTV USA covered the story about Tomorrowland's co-operation with Brussels Airlines to fly in 2.000 partyanimals from arround the world. From as far as Australia people are flying in to see what Tomorrowland actually is, after it was chosen last year as the best dancefestival on earth and the "aftermovie" went viral online when more then 44 million people watched it on Youtube.

Some facts:

Brussels Airlines flew in 2.000 people from 16 destinations in Europe and New York, those people were spread on 25 flights, some of them dedicated charterflights, others with blocked seats on regular flights. On SN502 from JFK alone were 140 people bound for Tomorrowland (which is a small number since the organisation had 3.000 requests from JFK alone. All 2.000 packages (which included flights, transport, hotel or campingground and an entrance ticket) were sold in less then 2 hours after then went for sale. According to the media it generated 600.000 EUR in extra revenue for SN which means that on average 300 EUR per package was dedicated for the flight). At each airport of departure there was a dedicated "Tomorrowland" check-in while in Brussels they would receive their tickets and were transported to the festivalground by busses. For the spotters in Europe, try to catch OO-SSG on camera since this was the plane that actually received Tomorrowland decals (only 1 plane was branded with Tomorrowland).

If you want to see what it was on board I have a couple of links with news footage (in Dutch).


VRT: http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...journaal/2.23529/2.23530/1.1380740
VTM: http://nieuws.vtm.be/entertainment/2...yflights-vliegen-naar-tomorrowland
ATV: http://www.atv.be/item/25-volle-vluchten-komen-aan-voor-tomorrowland
MTV USA: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/169...dimitri-vegas-like-mike-tour.jhtml (only the first couple of seconds)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 38158 times:

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?

In W12 its HKG-AMS-HKG again. This Summer its HKG-AMS-CDG-AMS-HKG when the 744 operates CX270/1


User currently offlineFlanders From Belgium, joined Oct 2008, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 37836 times:

Quoting bralo20 (Reply 36):
Flemish media and MTV USA covered the story about Tomorrowland's co-operation with Brussels Airlines to fly in 2.000 partyanimals from arround the world.



See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TjEROXd2k

All happy passengers if you ask me  


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 37414 times:

Some route news

BRU
Air Europe will start 13 weekly flights as of W12 with an E190
United will use the 767-400 on EWR-BRU between November 4th and November 26th

AMS
Transavia will fly 2 weekly (Tuesday and Thursday) to Ilha do Sal this Winter.


User currently offlinetomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 37354 times:

SN will add a weekly service to Mombasa from November 2d onwards. This is in continuation from one of the NBO services.

User currently offlinetomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 37355 times:

Some interesting upgrade of Brussels Airport has been revealed and is expected to be ready by the end of 2014. The tunnel between piers A and B will be replaced by a connecting building called "Connector".

More info here:
http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/corporate/news/26546/

This will be a very much appreciated addition. The downside of this is that the passengers disembarking in pier A will reach the baggage claim faster than they do now. The apparent baggage waiting time will be even longer than now   


User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 37347 times:

What is the exact reason for the cutting of LED-AMS?


If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much.
User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 36987 times:

According to www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl American Airlines is cutting their flights to BRU.


If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much.
User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 36967 times:

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 43):
According to www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl American Airlines is cutting their flights to BRU.

Correct, it has it's own thread: AA To Cease Activities At BRU As Of 1 Nov (by edoca Aug 14 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 36666 times:

ANR

Cityjet will cancel its 6 weekly ANR-MAN flight as of September 17th

AMS/LUX
KLM wil increase AMS-LUX from 21 weekly flights to 27 weekly flights (additional early afternoon rotation)

AMS
KLM will increase AMS-BHX from 5 daily to 6 daily as of September 3rd. Additional flight will be operated by F70

KLM will increase AMS-NRT to 11 weekly for the remainder of S12 as of September 12th.

Belavia will serve Minsk - Amsterdam 5 weekly with a CRJ in W12 instead of the previously planned 737-500. Still the frequency increases to 5 weekly.

United will send their 787 to AMS in W12. The 787 will be deployed on IAH-AMS as of December 4th (first arrival on December 5th, thus a good present from St. Nicolas) till March 29th. This will replace the 767-400.

BRU
Flybe cancels MAN-BRU as of September 10th. However it looks as if SN is taking over these flights with Avro and A319.

[Edited 2012-08-23 13:16:46]

[Edited 2012-08-23 13:17:16]

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 36235 times:

Some route changes

AMS
LH reduces FRA-AMS from 7 daily to 6 daily


BRU
LH reduces from 10 daily to 8 daily

Sn will deploy the A319 on BRU-MAN

TG will use the 77W to BRU instead of 772


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 36206 times:

Meanwhile the flights of BA to RTM are no officially announced, so no slot warmers as for the time being.

LH will start 2 x daily RTM-MUC as from October 1st.

Nice so read about tomorrowland here. i was not able to visit this year because i was not able to obtain a ticket for this amazing dance event. Hope for better luck next time.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 35951 times:

easyJet will discontinue BCN-AMS and MAD-AMS in W12. MAD-AMS will be discontinued as of December 3rd and BCN-AMS as of October 27th.

User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 35712 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 46):
TG will use the 77W to BRU instead of 772

Flights will be operated by the 3-class Boeing 777-300ER leased from Jet Airways. So not only an upgrade from the -200 to the -300 but also 2 to 3-class upgrade. Starting from February an additional weekly flight will be offered.

Bangkok – Brussels
eff 28OCT12 3-class Boeing 777-300ER (leased from Jet Airways) replaces 2-class 777-200ER. Seat map has been adjusted as of 03SEP12 to reflect the 3-class aircraft, including introduction of First Class.
eff 12FEB13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly

TG934 BKK0030 – 0700BRU 77W x135
TG935 BRU1245 – 0535+1BKK 77W x135

Day 7 service begins from 12FEB13

Source: Airlineroute.net


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 35400 times:

MST
Germanwings will cancel SXF-MST as of W12


User currently offlinetomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 35425 times:

First 787 flight today to and from Brussels.

ET was indeed operating its 787 to Brussels today. She landed slightly early this morning and departed tonight as ET709 with a disappointing one and a half hour delay. I still managed to briefly see her from home, but it was too dark to take a decent picture.

Noise perceived (about 4-5 miles from take off point) was extremely when compared to say A330s operating to NBO but she seemed relatively high. This might indicate a relatively low take off weight.


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 35552 times:

Some early news from HV for the Summer 2013 season

New Route From Amsterdam:
- OPO

New Routes from Rotterdam:
- Istanbul ( don't know if it will be IST or SAW )
- BUD
- PMI
- VLC
- IBZ

New Routes from Eindhoven:
- CPH
- MAD
- NAP
- BLQ

Nice to see more and more destinations are being added from both Rotterdam and Eindhoven.


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 53, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 35444 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 52):
New Routes from Rotterdam:
- Istanbul ( don't know if it will be IST or SAW )
- BUD
- PMI
- VLC
- IBZ

I assume RTM - BUD will be replacing the 4 weekly AMS - BUD?


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 35394 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 53):
I assume RTM - BUD will be replacing the 4 weekly AMS - BUD?

I am not sure. More info will follow later.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 35223 times:

Air China Cargo is flying 5 times weekly from Shanghai to AMS. Routing will be Shanghai - Chengdu - Amsterdam 3 times weekly and Shanghai - Chongqing - Amsterdam 2 times weekly. Retrun flight will be all be Amsterdam - Tianjin - Shanghai. However, according to www.schiphol.nl all flights to AMS seem to stop at Novosibirsk as well.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 34862 times:

AMS

FlyGeorgia will fly 3 times to AMS between September 30th and October 13th. No flights planned after October 13th

Air Baltic will increase service to 9 times weekly during W12

BRU

Air BAltic will increase service to 10 times weekly during W12
SN Brussels will add an additional frequency to KGL instead of launching Mombassa

ANR
BMI Regional will start Manchester - Antwerp in W12

S13

Transavia will add a few routes from AMS, EIN and RTM (see seperate thread)
Transavia NL Adds 9 New Routes (by kl911 Sep 19 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Thai will decrease BRU-BKK between May 7th and June 29th to 3 times weekly

EI will introduce a 4th weekly flight between Cork and Brussels


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 57, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 34582 times:

LUX

Quoting LJ (Reply 45):
AMS/LUXKLM wil increase AMS-LUX from 21 weekly flights to 27 weekly flights (additional early afternoon rotation)

Sounds quite logical, some 2 yrs after LG cut its LUX-CDG route (code-shared with AF) from 4 down to 3 daily.

Still, KLM has hardly been promoting itself in LUX for a while...

I really wonder whether LG could start 3 daily flights to AMS on weekdays (+limited weekend service), in view of the point-to-point fares charged by KLM... Q400 vs.F70 is also a good advantage in terms of operating costs.

Other news is that for the next coming months, LG flights LUX-CDG will remain at CDG2D. I really wonder where they will end up once Hub'2012 is fully in place at the end of this Winter: 2F (remote stand) or 2G?

Darwin Airlines (F7) also terminated its 2-daily (LUG-) GVA-LUX flights on 13AUG (announcement made on 30JUL), which it had started on 30JAN. Competitive pressure from LG (which now operated 3 daily flights on weekdays and introduced 1 daily flight on Saturdays) was too tough, even though F7 was code-sharing with LX.

Other, better news is that TK will start LUX-IST daily sometime this winter, fingers crossed. Which metal will they use? I'd go for the 319. TK has already started some limited code-sharing with LG, via FRA, MUC and VIE on 23JUN.


BRU

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 49):
Bangkok – Brusselseff 28OCT12 3-class Boeing 777-300ER (leased from Jet Airways) replaces 2-class 777-200ER. Seat map has been adjusted as of 03SEP12 to reflect the 3-class aircraft, including introduction of First Class.eff 12FEB13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weeklyTG934 BKK0030 – 0700BRU 77W x135TG935 BRU1245 – 0535+1BKK 77W x135Day 7 service begins from 12FEB13

Good news, but various enquiries on Thai website give another outcome:

- website states 773, not 77W, with no F class

- there seems to be an embargo on bookings beyond the Winter Timetable end on 23MAR13

- once TG gets its 2nd 77W (not leased from 9W), with a brand-new cabin and fully-flat beds in J, these frames will be used on BKK-BRU, which is very good news compared to the current 772/773 J cabins. LAX will also be served with these frames at the same time, meaning that more frames will be needed from February 2013 when BRU is upgraded to 4-weekly
See here: http://www.prthaiairways.com/news/node/377.html


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 58, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 34427 times:
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According to Wikipedia (though I don t know if it is a valid source of info), SN will get rid of the last ex-Virgin 737s by the end of this year. SN is also phasing out the Avros although some will remain in the fleet longer than the 737s will. Gone already are the older BAe 146s. It seems to me that more A319s have joined the SN fleet, more European destinations now see the A319.

Ben Soriano



Ben Soriano
User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 34328 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 58):
According to Wikipedia (though I don t know if it is a valid source of info), SN will get rid of the last ex-Virgin 737s by the end of this year. SN is also phasing out the Avros although some will remain in the fleet longer than the 737s will.

Happy about that! The Avro's are for sure one beautiful looking aircraft, and from what I experienced a very comfy ride for sure !

They will need the avro's for more 'difficult' airports. AFAIK the avro's are much less sensitive to bad weather, and can still operate easily to 'difficult' airports like FLR in case of bad weather where 737's or 32S's would have to divert.

Have been on multiple ARJ's and always enjoyed it! Shame that they will be going in the end, but that's aircraft's life, I suppose. Come on and bring some of those almost as good looking Bombardier C-series if you please...



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User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 60, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 34324 times:

SN has already made it clear that they will soon phase out AR8s and AR1s. Too much guzzling...

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 34143 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 57):
I really wonder whether LG could start 3 daily flights to AMS on weekdays (+limited weekend service), in view of the point-to-point fares charged by KLM... Q400 vs.F70 is also a good advantage in terms of operating costs.

Fares are not a good indication on the viability of a route. There is little to none local traffic on AMS-LUX (why go by air if you can use a car?).

Other news
Air one has postponed MXP-AMS till W12 (was suppose to start daily on September 17th).


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 34089 times:

Meanwhile in Rotterdam:

http://www.luchtvaartfoto.nl/item/99...op_Rotterdam_The_Hague_Airport.htm

the welcome of the first LH-flight to MUC


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 63, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 34000 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 61):
Fares are not a good indication on the viability of a route. There is little to none local traffic on AMS-LUX (why go by air if you can use a car?).

There is quite a lot of business traffic on LUX-AMS, for which a 5-hr drive on congested or run down motorways isn't suitable...


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 33558 times:

Eindhoven will become Transavia's third base in The Netherlands. Initially HV will base 3 737s at EIN (starting Spring 2013), but this may increase to 5 737s.

However, Ryanair will probably not make EIN a base. It cites uncertain growth potential at EIN (due to possible restrictions) as a concern


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 33306 times:

AMS

China Airlines will reduce TPE-BKK-AMS in W12 from daily to 5 weekly (until December 1st) and 6 weekly (between December 1st and January 13th). As of January 13th the A340-300 will be flying TPE-BKK-AMS (daily) instead of the 744 for the remainder of W12.

Wow Air intends to operate to AMS during S13. Their plan is to fly between KEF and AMS on Mondays and Fridays using an A320 in the period June 17th 2013 and September 2nd 2013.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32874 times:

LUX

Vueling will start BCN-LUX next Summer. Frequency will be 2 times weekly (see also thread Vueling Announcement At 1900 CET (by Alsatian Oct 16 2012 in Civil Aviation) reply 31).

AMS
KLM will start AMS-FUK (see also thread KLM Opens Reservations For AMS-FUK-AMS (by factsonly Oct 17 2012 in Civil Aviation))

EIN
Wizzair will start Cluj-Napoca - Eindhoven as of May 20th. It will be served twice weekly with an A320.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 32639 times:

AMS
The Garuda flight will be routed via AUH instead of DXB as of December 2nd.

BRU
Meridianafly will start Olbia - Brussels from June 10th 2013 and September 30th 2013. The flight will be flown once a week with a A320.


User currently offlineflyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 441 posts, RR: 2
Reply 68, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 32589 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 65):
As of January 13th the A340-300 will be flying TPE-BKK-AMS (daily) instead of the 744 for the remainder of W12.

Nice to have another A340 operator at AMS, allthoug it's just for a few months...


User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 32334 times:

From April 4th on KLM will fly a F70 13x weekly (1x daily on saturday) to AES.


If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much.
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 32094 times:

Reservations for AMS-MAD seem not to be possible after October 28th. The most likely explanation would be that IB will revert to mainline instead of IB Express, however it's odd that one would cancel reservations for AMS-MAD without replacing it.

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 71, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 31943 times:
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For Summer 2013, United will operate sUA 777-200ER on ORD-BRU.
EWR-BRU stays with 767-400ER.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 31552 times:

AMS
BA reduces LGW-AMS during S13 from 28 weekly to 22 weekly), but increases LHR-AMS with 3 weekly flights during W12 (extra flights on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday).

UA will porpone 787 opperation to AMS till February 25th until the remainder W12.

Quoting LJ (Reply 70):
Reservations for AMS-MAD seem not to be possible after October 28th. The most likely explanation would be that IB will revert to mainline instead of IB Express, however it's odd that one would cancel reservations for AMS-MAD without replacing it.

IB will cancel AMS (see sperate thread IB/I2 Suspends AMS, ARN, TXL (by SCQ83 Oct 29 2012 in Civil Aviation) )


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 31271 times:

LUX

LG has just terminated the Collective Labour Agreement regulating employment of its crew staff...

[Edited 2012-11-04 14:07:03]

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 74, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 31124 times:
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Last day of AA service at BRU today, after 20+ years.

I'm told to make up for it, Ethiopian brought a 787 in...



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 31095 times:

Also mentioned in the dedicated thread, KLM will launch twice daily Amsterdam - Manston as of S13

KLM To Fly Manston-Amsterdam From April 2 (by LondonCity Nov 13 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Maastricht Airlines seems to start up after all. They filed for 4x on weekdays as of January 14th. On weekends only 1 flight on saturday and no flights on Sundays.


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 76, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 31101 times:
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Quoting blueflyer (Reply 74):
Last day of AA service at BRU today, after 20+ years.

That's right.
I fly to BRU at Christmas using 40000 American Airlines miles. I have to fly JFK-LHR, connecting on BA to BRU, but that's not a problem for me. I have to fly at some point on BA metal because American doesn't fly to Brussels anymore on its own. In other words: no more AA metal to BRU. I don't mind that the trip is longer, I don't mind going through LHR (LHR is no fun for most passengers, but for airliners.net members like us it is a paradise right?) and I don't mind changing terminal. The only thing I am not happy about is the taxes are higher, because the trip involves another carrier in addition to AA. I thought of booking the trip all on BA, so that I could fly one more time or maybe even two more times on a 747 after not having flown on one for five years, and maybe the last time in my life I would fly on a 747, but the taxes would have been much higher so I chose to book the JFK-LHR-JFK segments on AA.
Now I know what it is: when you book an award ticket on an AA flight, the booking code is T, and when the trip involves a segment on BA metal, the booking code is X and that is what makes the tax higher when issuing the ticket. The more segments you book on BA through aa.com, the more X booking codes hence the higher taxes.

Ben Soriano

PS: There are still three US airlines serving BRU: United (ORD, IAD and EWR), Delta (JFK and ATL) and US Airways (PHL).



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 31312 times:

Garuda will increase JKT-AUH-AMS from 4 weekly to 6 weekly as of 22nd July 2013

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 30880 times:

LUX
LG is to start a once weekly LUX - DHV flight between April 21st and October 6th. Flight will be operated on Sundays with a Dash 8 Q400.

EIN
as mentioned in the Ryanair thread ( Ryanair To Cut 35% Of MAD, 23% Of BCN (by downtown273 Nov 28 2012 in Civil Aviation) ) FR will cancel MDA-EIN for S13

CRL
The same Ryanair thread reports frequency reduction on MAD-CRL and BCN-CRL for S13

AMS
AZ will suspend TRN-AMS between January 8th and March 3rd. Moreover, after March 3rd the flight will be 6 weekly instead of 10 weekly for the remainder of W12


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 79, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 30771 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 78):
DHV

Where is this?


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 80, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 30706 times:
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Typo, should have been DBV, announced yesterday.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 30420 times:

Not much news lately but as per another thread LH has announced 12 weekly AMS-BER for S13

LH Announces BER - AMS In S13 (by factsonly Dec 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Moreover, Wizzair will increase EIN-BUD from 10 weekly to 12 weekly from mid March 2013.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 82, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 30397 times:

Don't forget the creation of a base at EIN by both HV and FR from February 2013.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 30174 times:

FR will make EIN its 52nd base as of S13. It will base 1 737-800 at EIN. New routes:
- Eindhoven - Agadir (1x weekly)
- Eindhoven - Bordeaux (2x weekly)
- Eindhoven - Chania (1x weekly)
- Eindhoven - Fez (2x weekly)

Moreover Eindhoven - Warasw will be year round and increases will occur on the following destinations
- Alicante
- Faro
- Ibiza
- Malaga
- Marrakech
- Pisa

BTW is anyone taking Fr seriously these days. A few weeks ago they vowed not to increase EIN and EIN will never be a base. Suddenly this has changed (without a change in the enviroment). Looks to me as if HV to get a bigger piece of the pie at EIN.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 84, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 30091 times:

Wizzair is increasing EIN - BUD from 11 to 14 weekly from march 2013. With FR included EIN will have 18 weekly flights to BUD.

Quoting LJ (Reply 83):
BTW is anyone taking Fr seriously these days. A few weeks ago they vowed not to increase EIN and EIN will never be a base.

We don't know the details of the deal. Most likely FR got what it wanted. HV is not really a competitor, being often more expensive and working together with tour operators.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 30032 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 84):

We don't know the details of the deal. Most likely FR got what it wanted. HV is not really a competitor, being often more expensive and working together with tour operators

I doubt this as the criticism from FR concerned something political, something of which HV and Wizz Air mentioned was not correct (FR claimed that there would be no slots available for future growth, something which wasn't correct). Anyway, bad news for MST, which probably thought FR wasn't going to increase EIN much more (aparantly some destinatiosn are served by a MST based aircraft, which makes you wonder why they have a MST base).

BTW before I forget. Some good news (at least if you're a taxpayer in Twente). The people who wanted to develop Enschede Airport couldn't find a bidder to operate the airport. As such they will not develop the airport. None of the potential bidders came with an actual bid, which will probabltg mean that nobody see any potential in operating the airport profitable.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 86, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 30024 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 85):
BTW before I forget. Some good news (at least if you're a taxpayer in Twente). The people who wanted to develop Enschede Airport couldn't find a bidder to operate the airport.

Which in itself is good news again for Groningen Airport, my 'home' airport .


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (2 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 29857 times:

BRU will see the LOT 787 in January on a couple of flights:

05JAN 05JAN .....6. WAW BRU 0700 0910 LO 235 788*C
03JAN 10JAN ..34..7 WAW BRU 1620 1830 LO 233 788*C

05JAN 05JAN .....6. BRU WAW 1010 1210 LO 236 788*C
03JAN 10JAN ..34..7 BRU WAW 1930 2130 LO 234 788*C

Get those camera's ready!



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 29607 times:

According to the website of Den Helder airport Loganiar/FlyBe will operate Manchester - Norwich - Den Helder as of March 4th. Flight will be operated by a Do328
Schedule

Weekdays
Norwich dep 10:20
Den Helder arr 12:10
Den Helder dep 14:30
Norwich arr 14:20


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 29214 times:

Some more news on Maastricht Airlines. The airline released its schedule. Flights as of March 25th 2013

MST dep 07:30 AMS arr 08:25 (mon - sat)
AMS dep 09:10 MST arr 10:05 (mon - sat)
MST dep 11:05 AMS arr 12:00 (mon - sat)
AMS dep 12:45 MST arr 13:40 (mon - sa)
MST dep 14:40 AMS arr 15:35 (mon - fri)
AMS dep 16:20 MST arr 17:15 (mon - fri)
MST dep 18:15 AMS arr 19:10 (mon - fri, sun)
AMS dep 19:55 arr MST 20:50 (mon - fri, sun)

note that the SACN slot allocation list has a different schedule

MST dep 07:00 MUC arr 08:45 (mon - fri)
MUC dep 09:30 MST arr 11:15 (mon - fri)
MST dep 17:30 MUC arr 19:15 (mon - fri, sun)
MUC dep 20:00 MST arr 21:45 (mon - fri, sun)

MST dep 12:15 TXL arr 14:00 (mon - fri, sun)
TXL dep 14:45 MST arr 16:30 (mon - fri, sun)

All flights operated with F50 and reservations will be open as of January 15th 2013.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 29181 times:

Other route news

AMS
AZ will cancel Turin - Amsterdam (thus will not resume as of S13) on January 15th.


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 29096 times:

KLM has added frequencies to its Summer 2013 schedule for the following routes:

- Athens - increase from 1x to 2x/daily B737 on Sat & Sun, plus daily July+August
- Basel - increase from 2x to 3x/daily Fokker 70
- Budapest - increase from 3x to 4x/daily B737
- Linkoping - increase from 2x to 3x/daily Fokker 70
- Lyon - increase from 3x to 4x/daily Embraer 190 + Fokker 70


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 28626 times:

FR will start a weekly CRL - ZTH as of April 1st 2013.

Quoting factsonly (Reply 91):
KLM has added frequencies to its Summer 2013 schedule for the following routes:

KLM will also increase AMS-MAD from 35 weekly to 37 weekly from April 4th - June 30th and as of August 1st (additional flight on Thursday and Sunday).

Transavia have announced a few new routes for S13:
- AMS-KIT-KLX-AMS (1 weekly on Monday from April 22nd till October 7th)
- AMS-SUF-CTA-AMS (1 weekly as of May 1st)
- EIN-KGS (twice weekly as of April 25th)
- RTM-LPA (1 weekly between July 3rd and August 28th)
- RTM-RHO (2 weekly as of April 28th)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28155 times:

Eastern Airways started flying once weekly AMS-NWI-AMS (Friday only). Flight will be operated with a Jetstream 41. Schedule is as follows:

AMS dep 07:00
AMS arr 19:15


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28020 times:

Starting 31 March 2013, Finnair is to commence MD11 Freighter operations from Brussels to HEL, JFK and ORD. The airline has selected Brussels as its European Cargo hub to support its cargo operations in HEL to Asia.

1x weekly routing will be HKG-HEL-BRU-ORD-JFK-BRU-HEL-HKG operated by Nordic Global Airlines MD11. In HEL cargo connections are available on AY pax. flights to many other Asia cities.

[Edited 2013-01-07 08:23:29]

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 95, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 27865 times:
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Quoting factsonly (Reply 94):
1x weekly routing will be HKG-HEL-BRU-ORD-JFK-BRU-HEL-HKG

According to Finnair Cargo, JFK and ORD are two separate flights. Proposed routes are HEL-JFK-BRU-HEL and HEL-BRU-ORD-HEL, with HEL-HKG vv in between and HEL-BOM vv before and after.



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User currently offlinespantax From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 96, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 27774 times:

Does somebody have information about Thomas Cook Airlines (Belgium)? It seems the situation is very difficult, meetings are going on, etc. Some kind of bankruptcy or what? Any information welcome.


A300.10.19.20.21.30.40,AN26,ATR42,AVR146,B717.27.37.47.57.77,B1900,C130,C212,CH47,CRJ200.700,DC9,DHC4,ERJ135.190,F27
User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 27592 times:

According to Luchtvaartnieuws.nl KLM will axe AMS-KRT-ADD. I never really understood this route. This leaves KQ as the sole Skyteam member at ADD. I wonder if ET will be able to fill the gap left.

For more information one has to be a member of the site. Maybe someone on Anet can give us that info.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 27553 times:

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 97):
According to Luchtvaartnieuws.nl KLM will axe AMS-KRT-ADD. I never really understood this route.

Why?


User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 27534 times:

Of course I get that KL wanted to serve ADD. They decided it would not be viable without a tag on. Ok, that's fine. However, I don't get why they chose KRT as the tag on destination. To me it would make more sense to have an AMS-ADD-XXX routing as ADD is a larger market than any tag on city would be and it also has more competition than any potential tag on city. A nonstop would make AMS-ADD more attractive and serving another relatively small destination would be a bonus in stead of burden. And if serving KRT is important to KL why not serve it via for example CAI which hasn't been doing great lately?


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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 100, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 27467 times:
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I can't speak as to why KLM chose KRT, but as to why KRT comes before ADD, I would think it is due to to cost.
Stopping in ADD then back-tracking to KRT adds two hours of flight time each way, as KRT is closer to AMS than ADD.
Also, I don't think an overnight in KRT is the safest option and every possible routing except the current one requires more crew, either to avoid busting maximum duty time or to operate the tag-on as a stand-alone assignment.

AMS-ADD // ADD-KRT-ADD-AMS requires at least an extra pilot and a few extra flight attendants to stay within duty limits on the return leg.
AMS-ADD // ADD-KRT-ADD // ADD-AMS requires one more complete crew set.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 27327 times:

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 99):
However, I don't get why they chose KRT as the tag on destination

First, aid workers (one of the reasons this flights will be discontinued). Second, Sudan had oil (had as the place where the oil is, is now South Sudan) and was doing not sa bad economically. Finally, KLM already served KRT previously thus knew the market. It also heldped that there isn't too much competition ex Europe.

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 99):
A nonstop would make AMS-ADD more attractive and serving another relatively small destination would be a bonus in stead of burden

That would make sense if ADD was doing great.

BTW there is now a seperate thread on this

KLM To End Sudan And Ethiopia (by AF022 Jan 10 2013 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 27610 times:

According to another thread ( KLM To End Sudan And Ethiopia (by AF022 Jan 10 2013 in Civil Aviation) ), KL will also discontinue IKA as of S13. Together with the termination of ADD/KRT this will free up 1 daily A332. Will be interesting to see where they'll put this A332..

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 27273 times:

Ethiad will start AUH-AMS as of May 15th (see also thread Etihad To Start AUH-AMS (by paneuropean Jan 14 2013 in Civil Aviation) ), making the total number of 3 daily flights between AMS and AUH (1 daily by both KL, EY and GA). The flight (EY077/8) will be operated by an A332 and arrive in AMS at 14:30 and depart at 22:00.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 26828 times:

BMI Regional will axe Aberdeen - Groningen as of February 8th. The airline cites decling traffic figures and decided to axe Groningen after consultation with its important customers on thi route. The route was started in 2004 and was used primarily by the petrochemical industry.

User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 26832 times:

Unlike the other smaller airports in the Netherlands GRQ doesn't seem to be doing well. I think HV is about the only airline that could make some new routes work. I doubt they're interested though, as I think we would have seen some more service by now if the were.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 26449 times:

BRU
SN Brussels announced their next US destination, which will be IAD (see seperate thread Brussels Airlines Launch Washington (by seansasLCY Jan 30 2013 in Civil Aviation) )

TK will increase IST-BRU from 28 weekly to 30 weekly

AMS
Turkish will start AMS-SAW during S13. It will be operated daily with 738 from June 2nd (before 3/4 weekly).

Skywork will increase AMS-BRN to 9x weekly.

WOW airlines has increased its proposed KEF-AMS to 3 times weekly

Air Transat will reduce YVR-AMS to 2 weekly (was 3 weekly).

LY will send a 763 on the mornng flight (during peak season a 744 on Monday and Friday).


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 25996 times:

We're already in February thus time to look at the traffic results of all airports in BeNeLux. Unfortunatele I couldn't find any traffic figures for LUX, RTM and DHR (passenger traffic), whus these are omitted until I can fin them. The listing is equal to previous year (if you look at number of paasengers) though it's quite possible that ANR has surpassed DHR this year.

1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%)
2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%)
3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%)
4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45%)
6- MST 345,000 (+0.04%)
7- LGG 309,22 (-/-1.85%)
8- OST 232,651 (+0.00%)
9- GRQ 208,660 (+40.18%)
10- ANR 139,929 (+31.61%)

Both LUX and RTM should probaby be between MST and EIN.

Not all airports release cargo figures (and some don't seem to have any cargo), but from those who do release information hereby the figures (tons)

1- AMS 1,511,851 (-/- 0.02%)
2- LGG 576,664 (-/-14.51%)
3- BRU 459,265 (-/- 3.30%)
4- MST 75,00 (+ 18.48%)
5- OST 53,166 (-/- 7.00%)

The listing according to number of movemnets is (as far as the information could be retrieved):

1- AMS 423,407 (+0.80%)
2- BRU 223,431 (-/- 4.40%)
3- ANR 46,960
4- GRQ 46,400 (-/- 12.00%)
5- OST 28,698 (23.60%)
6- EIN 24,267


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 25530 times:

Some route news

AMS
Pegasus will increase Bodrum - Amsterdam from 1 weekly to 2 weekly as of S13

Not surprising, but UA will not send the 787 to AMS this March.

LUX
Luxair will increase LCY from 4 times a day on weekdays to 5 times a day on weekdays. The new flight will depart LUX at 17:40 and arrive at 17:55. The return will depart LCY at 18:25 and arrive at 20:35.

BRU
SN will axe Newcaslte as of S13.

MS will increase from 6 weekly to daily during S13.


User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 25425 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 101):
That would make sense if ADD was doing great.

The major reason (from what I understood) was that KLM was not (or no longer?) allowed to exchange Birrs, from local sales, into Euros and get them out of the country.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (1 year 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 25121 times:

Quoting KL577 (Reply 109):

The major reason (from what I understood) was that KLM was not (or no longer?) allowed to exchange Birrs, from local sales, into Euros and get them out of the countr

Todays "De Telegraaf" has an article about how the business ties between The Netherlands and Ethiopia are growing. Probably not enough to support a flight to AMS. However, given LHs capacity reduction of ADD as well, other airlines seem to have the same problem you mention.

Some route news:
KL announced a 3rd daily AMS-LIS between July 1st and September 1st (thus only for 2 months). Outside this periode the flight only operates on Saturdays and Sundays during S13. Schedule is:
KL1695 dep AMS 08:30 arr LIS 10:25
KL 1696 dep LIS 11:20 arr AMS 15:20


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 24782 times:

Lufthansa cancelled its planned AMS-TXL flights. They planned 12 weekly flights with A319.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 24458 times:

Some route news:

LUX
Cargolux has inaugurated a weekly cargo flight to Port Harcourt. The flight will operate LUX-LOS-PHC-FIH-NBO-LUX.

AMS
CZ will replace the A332 by an A333 on PEK-AMS as of S13.
SV cargo seems to increase its flights from 4 weekly to 5 weekly. Their website now lists a flight on Thurdays as well. Moreover, it seems as if this increase will continue in S13.
OU will operate the A319 on its weekly Split - Amsterdam flight instead of the DH4.
RO will increase OTP-AMS from daily to 11 weekly in S13

BRU
OU will increase ZAG-BRU from 6 weekly to 10 weekly which will be operated by a Dash8Q-400


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 24376 times:

In Summer 2013 Delta Airlines will increase overall capacity USA-AMS by +10%.

This is achieved by one additional daily B767-300 flight JFK-AMS (to 2x/daily) and by placing larger capacity aircraft A333 and B777 on many existing frequencies.

Total DL movements at AMS will rise from 125x/week to 133x/week or 19x/day.


Year 2011 - 2012 - 2013
A333 7x - 7x - 12x/day
A332 5x - 3x - 3x/day
B767 6x - 8x - 3x/day
B777 0 - 0 - 1x/day

2013 = Total 133 Departures per week
2012 = Total 125 Departures per week
2011 = Total 122 Departures per week


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 24329 times:
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Apparently, Congo and Belgium have signed a new bilateral agreements that includes two additional weekly frequencies for a Belgian carrier, and Jetairfly wants them.

Two questions:
-Is Brussels Airlines also interested, if only to keep competition out?
-How does the Belgian government decide who to award frequencies to? Surely it doesn't happen very often that there is actual competition for traffic rights.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 24027 times:

Update of the ranking by number of pax for 2012

1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%)
2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%)
3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%)
4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45%)
5- LUX 1.92mio (+7.26%)
6- MST 345,000 (+0.04%)
7- LGG 309,22 (-/-1.85%)
8- OST 232,651 (+0.00%)
9- GRQ 208,660 (+40.18%)
10- ANR 139,929 (+31.61%)

[Edited 2013-03-10 14:50:48]

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 24043 times:

Last week, the first flight out of Manchester and Norwich arrived at Den Helder airport. This means that in addition to the scheduled helicopter flights, Den Helder has its fiorst regular passenger flights (which can actually be bought be the public). Hopefully the route will doing well. However, the websites of Norwich needs an update as it doesn't show this flight in the scheduled service section. Finally, I also hope that Den Helder airport will update its website to include an arrivals and departure of their single "normal" scheduled flight.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 117, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 24028 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 91):
KLM has added frequencies to its Summer 2013 schedule for the following routes:

Starting on 08JUN13, KL will also increase frequency on the AMS-UIO-GYE-AMS route to 6x weekly utilizing the B772.


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 23839 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 115):
Update of the ranking by number of pax for 2012

You forgot RTM  

1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%)
2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%)
3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%)
4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45%)
5- LUX 1.92mio (+7.26%)
6- RTM 1,27 mio (+9,9%)
7- MST 345,000 (+0.04%)
8- LGG 309,22 (-/-1.85%)
9- OST 232,651 (+0.00%)
10- GRQ 208,660 (+40.18%)
11- ANR 139,929 (+31.61%)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 23700 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 118):
You forgot RTM

Thanks for their figures. couldn't find them on their website (any reason why they aren't mentioned anymore?).


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 23534 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 119):
Thanks for their figures. couldn't find them on their website (any reason why they aren't mentioned anymore?).

The figures are still there  http://www.rotterdamthehagueairport...._Airport/de_onderneming/VV_Cijfers


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23406 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 120):
The figures are still there

That I didn't look there....... How stupid can one be.

Now the update of the other lists

Cargo
1- AMS 1,511,851 (-/- 0.02%)
2- LUX 615,000
3- LGG 576,664 (-/-14.51%)
4- BRU 459,265 (-/- 3.30%)
5- MST 75,00 (+ 18.48%)
6- OST 53,166 (-/- 7.00%)
7- RTM 46

Movements
1- AMS 423,407 (+0.80%)
2- BRU 223,431 (-/- 4.40%)
3- RTM 48,129
4- ANR 46,960
5- GRQ 46,400 (-/- 12.00%)
6- OST 28,698 (23.60%)
7- EIN 24,267


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23207 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 116):
Last week, the first flight out of Manchester and Norwich arrived at Den Helder airport. This means that in addition to the scheduled helicopter flights, Den Helder has its fiorst regular passenger flights (which can actually be bought be the public). Hopefully the route will doing well. However, the websites of Norwich needs an update as it doesn't show this flight in the scheduled service section. Finally, I also hope that Den Helder airport will update its website to include an arrivals and departure of their single "normal" scheduled flight.

Loganair cancelled teh route as of today. it cites bad load factor. However, one wonders why they cancelled it so soon. Moreover, one would expect that Loganair would have secured some contracts before they started this service. Finally, the director of Den Helder airport is dispappointed and said that bookings did show an improvement later in the season.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 123, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 22907 times:

The launch of Maastricht Airflines has been postponed to May 1st.

AMS
TK will operate the MeridianaFly A330 on TK1953/4 as of June 4th daily except on Monday, Saturday and Sunday.

BRU
TK will operate the MeridianaFly A330 on TK1939/40 between June 3rd and September September 22nd on Monday, Saturday and Sunday.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 22482 times:

It seems as if Air China Cargo will increase their flights to AMS from 5 to 6 weekly as of Mays 1st. The new flight will operate Shanghai - Zhengzhou - Amsterdam - Tianjin - Shanghai. This flight will be the only one not operated via Novosibirsk.

In other news, the investors who want to revive Twnete airport have found an operator for the airport. Aviapartner will operate the airport together with the Dutch investment group Reggeborgh.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 125, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22475 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 124):
In other news, the investors who want to revive Twnete airport have found an operator for the airport. Aviapartner will operate the airport together with the Dutch investment group Reggeborgh.

What's the logic behind that? There are airports just a few km across the border with loads of flights, and Twente is basically between Groningen airport and Eindhoven Airport in The Netherlands.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 22376 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 125):
What's the logic behind that? There are airports just a few km across the border with loads of flights, and Twente is basically between Groningen airport and Eindhoven Airport in The Netherlands.

My personal believe is that there isn't any logic, but tell that to the local politicians and a few business people who don't want to drive to FMO. They think that an airport will revive the region, though the reason that there isn/t much investment is that the area is just not interesting to invest in. The only thing I don't understand is that they mention that Aviapartner operates airports. AFAIK they are only a ground handling company.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22545 times:

GRQ is closed untill April 24th due to runway extension of their main runway (05-23). The runway will be extended till 2,500m (currently 1,800m). The construction work will be finished on April 24th.

Transavia released a press release with its plans for W13. According to the press release the following increases are planned (needless to say the press release does not talk about decreases):

Amsterdam
- Innsbruck will be 9 weekly instead of 7 weekly
- Salzburg will be 6 instead of 5 weekly
- Turin will be 4 weekly (new destination for HV)
- Seville, Oporto and Casablanca will remain in the schedule in W13
- Athens will be 5 weekly instead of 4 weekly
- Dubai will be 3 weekly instead of 2 weekly
- HV will fly 4 times weekly (previously 3 weekly) to Cape Verde

Eindhoven
- Innsbruck will be daily instead of 6 weekly

Rotterdam
- Geneva will become 5 weekly instead of 4 weekly
- HV will fly 3 weekly to Marrakech (new destination)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 22257 times:

AMS/MST

Maastricht Airlines has postponed their launch again (see also seperate thread Maastricht Airlines Forced To Postpone Operations (by CrimsonNL Apr 16 2013 in Civil Aviation) )

BRU
FlyGeorgia will launch TBS-BRU as of May 12th. Flights will be operated twice weekly on Mondays and Fridays with an A319.


User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 22044 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 126):
Quoting KL911 (Reply 125):
What's the logic behind that? There are airports just a few km across the border with loads of flights, and Twente is basically between Groningen airport and Eindhoven Airport in The Netherlands.

My personal believe is that there isn't any logic, but tell that to the local politicians and a few business people who don't want to drive to FMO. They think that an airport will revive the region, though the reason that there isn/t much investment is that the area is just not interesting to invest in. The only thing I don't understand is that they mention that Aviapartner operates airports. AFAIK they are only a ground handling company.

   Lot's of people have great difficulties in identifying cause and effect. Although successful airports are often located in economically thriving regions, a region does not become thriving when you open an airport. Rather it's the other way around: an economic boom creates a demand for air travel, which allows an airport to be opened successfully.

The idea of reviving Twente airport should have been put to rest a long time ago. Taxpayers' money is really better spent otherwise.


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 21876 times:

^^
Same applies to the plans to expand Lelystad airport. It's completely unnecessary to expand LEY. It's much better to utilize the capacity on other regional airports such as Rotterdam and Eindhoven were only "minor" investments are required to accommodate more flights. And RTM + EIN are much better located in the dense populated parts (and economic centre's) of the country.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21749 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 130):

Same applies to the plans to expand Lelystad airport. It's completely unnecessary to expand LEY. It's much better to utilize the capacity on other regional airports such as Rotterdam and Eindhoven were only "minor" investments are required to accommodate more flights

AFAIK expanding RTM is politcally sensitive. Moreover, Lelystad should funtion as a secondary airport for Amsterdam (their plan is to oust all charter flights to Lelystad), a function EIN and RTM can't do. Maybe we should expand Den Helder airport (would be great for me as I live north of Amsterdam).


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21729 times:

At last, Den Helder has put its traffic figures on the internet (though I must admit I forgot to check)

Number of pax
1- AMS 51.03mio (+2.60%)
2- BRU 18.97mio (+1.00%)
3- CRL 6.52 mio pax (+10.43%)
4- EIN 2.98mio (+12.45%)
5- LUX 1.92mio (+7.26%)
6- RTM 1,27 mio (+9,9%)
7- MST 345,000 (+0.04%)
8- LGG 309,22 (-/-1.85%)
9- OST 232,651 (+0.00%)
10- GRQ 208,660 (+40.18%)
11 - DHR 141,261 (+16.85%)
11- ANR 139,929 (+31.61%)

Cargo (tons)
1- AMS 1,511,851 (-/- 0.02%)
2- LUX 615,000
3- LGG 576,664 (-/-14.51%)
4- BRU 459,265 (-/- 3.30%)
5- MST 75,00 (+ 18.48%)
6- OST 53,166 (-/- 7.00%)
7- DHR 471.7 (+5.2%)
7- RTM 46

Movements
1- AMS 423,407 (+0.80%)
2- BRU 223,431 (-/- 4.40%)
3- RTM 48,129
4- ANR 46,960
5- GRQ 46,400 (-/- 12.00%)
6- OST 28,698 (23.60%)
7- EIN 24,267
8- DHR 12,115 (+3.11%)


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 21696 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 131):
AFAIK expanding RTM is politcally sensitive.

Yes and No.
It used to be a very sensitive matter. But the politics have changed over the last 10 years due to the internet. And 9 out of 10 replies on news items over the RTM airport are in favour of the airport.
And the our goverment has already said that RTM should play a more prominent role when it comes to taking some of the not mainpont bound traffic of Amsterdam such as holiday charters en LCC's.
And the possibilities to lift the restrictions are currently being investigated / worked. but as always, it might take a while before we see any results.

Quoting LJ (Reply 131):
Lelystad should funtion as a secondary airport for Amsterdam (their plan is to oust all charter flights to Lelystad), a function EIN and RTM can't do

Are you kidding? RTM and EIN are perfect candidates for that type of flights. The infrastructure is already there. And the airports are located in the population and economic axe of the Netherlands.
LEY is just to far of centre. There is no good infrastructure. And airlines like HV already said they are not interested in flying out of LEY, for these very obvious reasons.
Expanding LEY is a complete and total waste of (taxpayers) money and even more outragious than re-opening Enschede airport.

Quoting LJ (Reply 131):
Maybe we should expand Den Helder airport (would be great for me as I live north of Amsterdam).

Understand that you may like to see that. But you understand that is out of the question. People who live south / southeast of Amsterdam (so that is about +75% of the population) are probably not the least interested in Flying out of Den Helder, 80% of the catchment area of Den Helder Airport is sea or low populated parts of our country.

Airports need to be near the location where the people live and were business is done.

[Edited 2013-04-19 13:15:14]

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21361 times:

LUX

Luxair will resume LUX-CPH on June 3rd. The flight will be operated 6 weekly (no flight on Saturdays) with an Embrear 145.

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 133):

Quoting LJ (Reply 131):
Maybe we should expand Den Helder airport (would be great for me as I live north of Amsterdam).

Understand that you may like to see that

To be honest, the chances for me going to DHR are not that high. For one odd reason I would probably stick to AMS as its easier to go to by public transport.

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 133):
Flying out of Den Helder, 80% of the catchment area of Den Helder Airport is sea or low populated parts of our country.

Have you ever seen the number of British platform employees in the train to Den Helder (thus the Sea is a good catchment area)? I though that would make the NWI flight work, but it didn't. Moreover, even without jet services, it still isn't the smallest commercial airport in BeNeLux.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 21025 times:

BRU

JetairFly will inaugurate a weekly Brussels - Ras Al-Khaimah (UAE) with a techincal stop at Paphos (Cyprus) in W13


AMS

Darwin Air is to start LEJ - AMS as of September 1st. The route will be flown 12 weekly with an SAAB 2000.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20696 times:

Maastricht Airlines seems to postpone the launch of MST-AMS to at least September 3rd. According to some reports the F50s need an additional 1,800 hours of maintenance before they can enter service.

User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 20492 times:

Apparently, AY is sending 343 to BRU on flights AY811/812, 06JUN + 13JUN.

AY 343 To BRU Om 06JUN + 13JUN (by 330lover May 16 2013 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 20332 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 128):
BRU
FlyGeorgia will launch TBS-BRU as of May 12th. Flights will be operated twice weekly on Mondays and Fridays with an A319.

Not very surprising (given their track record at AMS) but FlyGeorgia seems to have postponed inauguration of BRU until June 3rd.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 20039 times:

AMS

Darwin announced CBG-AMS after they already announced LEJ - AMS for more details dee spereate thread on Darwins CBG base Darwin Airline Sets Up Cambridge Base - 4 Routes (by vfw614 May 19 2013 in Civil Aviation)

UIO/GYE is scehduled to become daily. The new flight (KL0753) will depart on Monday (though still subject to government approval) and will fly the identical schedule as KL751/5.

BRU

AY will deploy the A340 on Thursdays as of June st. See also AY 343 To BRU On Thursday From 06JUN To 24OCT (by 330lover May 16 2013 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 19778 times:

AMS

AMS marketing team seems to be doing well as Air Algerie announcded it will (re)start Algiers - Amsterdam as of July. Howvever, though they announced it on their Facebook page, they don't seem to have slots at the moment nor is it possible to book these flights.

Moreover EY cargo will increase frequency between AUH and AMS. The frequency will go from 4 to 5 weekly (an additional flight on Sunday)


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 19468 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 136):
Maastricht Airlines seems to postpone the launch of MST-AMS to at least September 3rd. According to some reports the F50s need an additional 1,800 hours of maintenance before they can enter service.

Maastricht airlines is bankrupt without flying a single mile. The airline filed for bankruptcy after an investor pulled out. Moreover, former employees filed a court case against Maastricht Airlines.


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 142, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 19134 times:

Reminder: tomorrow is the first AY flight to/from BRU operated by A340-300.
Anyone present for some pics? It looks like weather will be nice!



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 18896 times:

AMS

QR cargo will move its twice weekly DOH-AMS-ORD to MXP and thus fly DOH-MXP-ORD as of July 1st.

Nippon Cargo will move (or has moved) one weekly freighter service from AMS to Hahn.

Etihad Cargo and Atlas Air have started a new cargo service. The flight will operated VCP-IUO-(CUR)-AMS-AUH. Most likely GTI will do UIO-AMS as traffic rights for UIO-AMS are not easy to get.

SV Cargo seems to have increased AMS to 6 weekly in June.

LUX
Cargolux will start MUC-LUX-ATL service each Monday. This means MUC will get a cargo weekly 747 in addition to its trucking service.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 18576 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 143):
QR cargo will move its twice weekly DOH-AMS-ORD to MXP and thus fly DOH-MXP-ORD as of July 1st.

This is incorrect. The QR will remain flying DOH-AMS-ORD twice weekly. The flights via MXP are in addition to these flights.

Moroever, QR cargo started twice weekly DOH-EBB-LGG-DOH with A332F. These flights were previously scheduled via AMS (DOH-EBB-AMS-DOH). Moreover the third planned DOH-EBB-AMS-DOH isn't planned to stop at EBB, and thus becomes DOH-AMS-DOH.


CZ will downgauge PEK-AMS to 5 weekly (from daily) as of next August .

Finally, the regional government of Limburg decided to invest EUR 4.5mio into MST. This will mean that the airport is saved from bankruptcy (untill July 2014).

Furthermore, Luxaviation takes over (or merges, whatever is correct) Abelag Aviation.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18142 times:

Some route news.

LUX
Cargolux added Muscat to its schedule

AMS
KL Cargo / Martinair has added AUH as a stop on its way to Asia.

For the highlights of the AMS slot list for W13 see AMS Winter 2013 (by A388 Jun 21 2013 in Civil Aviation) .

Finally, Maastricht Airlines believes it can fly (see thread Maastricht Airlines Believe They Can Fly (by aloges Jun 29 2013 in Civil Aviation) ). Let's see what happens.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 17748 times:

According to a rumour thread on www.scramble.nl 7 KLC F70s will be replaced by EMB190s starting November 2013. The 7 F70s will be replaced by 6 ER9s which were initially ordered by another airline but they didn't want them anymore.

User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 147, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 17591 times:

Short questions regarding Arkefly,

At least for me in a surprise move, Arkefly is leasing this summer very well used B737-300/400 from Slovakian carrier AirExplore. Any idea about their dispatch reliability and staff/passenger feedback?

For summer 2014 the B767 fleet will be upgraded with a STAR CLASS cabin. Will it be a truly BusinessClass with lie flat seat? What's to expect?


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 17338 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 147):
For summer 2014 the B767 fleet will be upgraded with a STAR CLASS cabin. Will it be a truly BusinessClass with lie flat seat? What's to expect?

As far as I know no lie flat. It's also not mentioned on their website. From their websiteb you get:
- 1.1m leg room and a "comfortable seat"
- 7KG handlugagge and 40KG checked luggage
- reserved seat
- lounge access
- Personal Entertainment sytem
- free drinks, snacks and meals
- priority boarding

Quoting debonair (Reply 147):
At least for me in a surprise move, Arkefly is leasing this summer very well used B737-300/400 from Slovakian carrier AirExplore. Any idea about their dispatch reliability and staff/passenger feedback?

I guess not many will be happy that these aircraft dont have Comfort Class.


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4722 posts, RR: 50
Reply 149, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 17175 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 148):
I guess not many will be happy that these aircraft dont have Comfort Class.

The 737-400 aircraft have both Premium Comfort and Comfort Class



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User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 150, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16947 times:

Starting 14 July 2013, a company called MAGMA Aviation will commence 2x weekly B747-400 Full Freighter services from BRU to LFW - BZV and FIH with connections to BKO-COO-DLA-LBV-MLW-NIM.

Who's aircraft and/or which operator will be used remains unclear.

According to Inforwarding.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16857 times:



Quoting factsonly (Reply 150):
Who's aircraft and/or which operator will be used remains unclear.

They have one together with MyCargo.


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[Edited 2013-07-05 11:31:17]

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 152, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16754 times:
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Ethiopian is cancelling the BRU tag-on to ADD-CDG effective December 1st. I'm surprised they weren't able to make the flight work. Perhaps the CDG stop negated the effects of the Star Alliance in BRU.
Or this announcement precedes the introduction of a non-stop instead (you never know).

United is to bring back a three-class 772 on EWR-BRU "permanently" from mid-February on.



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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 22
Reply 153, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16718 times:

SN flight from Ouagadougou shows 343 equipment, didnt realize they had it?

Also, will ANR see some changes in coming months?

Thanks.



Got both LO 788 frames already, next LO E95 and 734 BRU-WAW-BRU
User currently offlineOOSGB From Belgium, joined Jan 2011, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 154, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 16535 times:

It seems that the main traffic from BRU for ET was heading to FBM (Lubumbashi) in DRC and KGL. Yet with SN partnership with Korongo, ET flight time ( via CDG...) is not competitive. Same for KGL where KL is offering quicker connections (in addition to SN). According to Belgian media, ET was carrying some 35000 passengers per year, hence some 50 passengers were in the tag on CDG-BRU. Strange as ET made a roadshow in BRU with the 787. I guess TK flights to FIH have not helped.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 155, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 16425 times:

KLM interested in operating AMS-BOG...
Link in Spanish: http://www.portafolio.co/negocios/klm-busca-pista-colombia


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16181 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 155):
KLM interested in operating AMS-BOG...

I wonder how many times KL will try BOG. They failed twice before.. Then again BOG may join the list of destinations in Latin America where both AF en KL fly to (and isn't Colombia doing much better lately?).

In other news, AMS - MEX will become 9 weekly from December 12th to February 1st. BTW any special reason why there is a jump in traffic to MEX in this period? I know the weather is good, but MEX isn't you port of call when you want to go to the sun.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 157, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16149 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 156):
Then again BOG may join the list of destinations in Latin America where both AF en KL fly to (and isn't Colombia doing much better lately?).

AF-KL will continue to be active in the region due to the strong economic growth certain Latin American countries are experiencing; as well as northbound cargo. The Colombian market is growing and AF cannot increase frequency on the CDG-BOG route due to the bilateral between Colombia and France. This sets the stage for KL to resume services to BOG.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15807 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 146):
According to a rumour thread on www.scramble.nl 7 KLC F70s will be replaced by EMB190s starting November 2013. The 7 F70s will be replaced by 6 ER9s which were initially ordered by another airline but they didn't want them anymore.

And now confirmed as in this thread KLM To Acquire 6 Additional E190s (by LAXintl Jul 24 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 157):
n due to the strong economic growth certain Latin American countries are experiencing; as well as northbound cargo. The Colombian market is growing and AF cannot increase frequency on the CDG-BOG route due to the bilateral between Colombia and France

It was also the limited Panama - The Netherlands bilateral which required AF to pick up the additional frequencies to PTY. However, that's solved now (Dutch airlines may fly 14 weekly to Panama).

Other news.. PIA wil discontinue AMS as of September 3rd (at least that is their latest plan)


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15743 times:

Cargolux is launching 2x/weekly B747F service LUX-AMS-MIA-AMS-LUX on Thursdays and Sundays.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15352 times:

Emirates confirmed their 2nd daily DXB-AMS flight today. They'll operate an evening flight as of December 4th with a 77L.


Schedule will be
EK149 dep DXB 1610 – arr AMS 2040
EK150 dep AMS 2210 – arr DXB 0740+1


User currently onlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5300 posts, RR: 15
Reply 161, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15070 times:

Groningen airport confirms Ryanair will not continue the Bergamo flight this winter like they did last year.

It's a shame since it offered me great connections to Dublin where I am living now. It looks like the last flight is Nov 4.


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 162, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 14907 times:

2 1/2 yrs after closing down LUX-DUB, LG will re-start this route on a 4-weekly basis, with Q400s in lieu of ER3 or 4.

User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14570 times:

TK has confirmed they will start the IST-RTM route as from 4th March 2014

This makes Turkish airlines the 3rd mainline carrier that adds Rotterdam to their network in just over a year (after LH and BA )
Makes me wonder who's next. There are rumors that BA Cityflyer is planning to add a LCY-RTM route early next year.


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 14335 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 163):
There are rumors that BA Cityflyer is planning to add a LCY-RTM route early next year.

When BA pulls off the LHR--RTM route, no doubt.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14210 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 163):
TK has confirmed they will start the IST-RTM route as from 4th March 2014

To be complete here the proposed schedule for RTM:

4 weekly (Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday) with 737-800

Arr RTM 14:55 dep RTM 15:45

Quoting factsonly (Reply 164):
When BA pulls off the LHR--RTM route, no doubt.

They probably have to as there aren't many slots at RTM left. Moreover, the terminal capacity restrictions will become a burden as well.