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Did FRG Ever Have Commercial Service?  
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Living a few miles away from FRG, I always wonder why it has a small but still usable terminal if the only flights are the charter flights to ACY? It made me wonder if FRG ever actually had scheduled flights. If not, what is the possibility of over having service there or have any airlines ever looked into serving Farmingdale? I don't want to sound like just another guy dreaming about a GA airfield having scheduled flights, but the fact that there is a functioning terminal makes me wonder. Runways cannot be an issue because we see regular sports charters including MANY Miami Air 738s and Air Canada a319s and a320s, plus the ocassional DL a319. Plus, we have hosted Air Force 2 (a 752, for those who don't know).

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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Yes they did. For a brief period of time they had NW Airlink service to BOS and in the 1980s they had service on CO Express and Cosmopolitan Airlines as well. Do you live in NY? I live in Oceanside and I'm graduating from SUNY Farmingdale at the end of the month.


In Loving Memory of Casey Edward Falconer; May 16, 1992-May 9, 2012
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

Yes i do. I live in Lindenhurst, directly below the flightpath for FRG and I vosit FRG frequently.

User currently offlineJBfan1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Due to noise abatemnent and the neighboring residents, they have been fighting forever to keep commercial flights and large jets out of FRG. B6 has chartered for Hofstra sports teams many a time out of Sheltair's facility. Unfortunately you will probablly never see FRG expand to more than what it is now.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

If they are fighting to keep large jets out of FRG they arent doing a good job. Large bizjets and some commercial charters come over my house multiple times a day and it is increasing. Im not complaining though.  

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

If they are fighting to keep large jets out of FRG they arent doing a good job. Large bizjets and some commercial charters come over my house multiple times a day and it is increasing. Im not complaining though.  

User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2331 times:
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I remember flying Piper Cubs and Cessna 150s out of Zahn's airport, located immediately south of the Southern State Parkway from FRG. The patterns dodged each other. FRG was a private field mostly back then, the site of the Republic Aircraft manufacturing facility, later acquired by Grumman IIRC.

User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3176 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

I am impressed with how much FRG has rebounded into a commercial airport over the last 20 years.

It wasn't that long ago that they were building shopping malls almost on the runway and most of the place had the air of an airport that has seen better days under a defunct aircraft company

The place is really thriving now in the GA market and has found its place in the NYC area


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2848 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2197 times:

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 1):
I live in Oceanside and I'm graduating from SUNY Farmingdale at the end of the month.

Glad to see another alumni  

(I graduated as Chancellor's Award Alumni, Class of 2003, Aviation Administration.....and I actually still work at Farmingdale State on the weekends LOL)



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User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

My wife worked for an outfit called Atlantic Express back in the early 80's. They operated Swearingen Metros from FRG to BOS and ALB. Don't believe they lasted a year though.

Ed



Ed
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 9):
My wife worked for an outfit called Atlantic Express back in the early 80's. They operated Swearingen Metros from FRG to BOS and ALB. Don't believe they lasted a year though.

Their only timetables on the Timetableimages.com site are dated 1983 so that was probably their year.

Route map April 1983.



User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2243 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 1):
For a brief period of time they had NW Airlink service to BOS...

NW Airlink operated from May to October 1993.

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 6):
I remember flying Piper Cubs and Cessna 150s out of Zahn's airport...

I earned my PPL at FRG, flying back in the late 70s and early 80s. In the traffic pattern for 32, we had to stay north of the Southern State Parkway, with a dogleg to final, rolling out over the numbers. I never flew out of Zahn's, but have a friend who did around that time.

I've been to a few airport commission meetings, and there is one lady - who may very well have lived there when Republic was turning out F-84s - who grills the board about noise every month. Yes, there is extensive business jet traffic, and plenty of sports charters, between the Islanders and local college teams, but don't expect scheduled service of any consequence any time soon.

The Republic Airport Historical Society (yes, I'm a member) web site has some interesting information about the history of FRG.

https://sites.google.com/site/lirepublicairporths/home



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User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Quoting moose135 (Reply 11):
NW Airlink operated from May to October 1993

I worked for them at the time.. it was operated by Northeast Express / Precision Airlines with a mix of Metros and the Dornier 228 out of BOS



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting moose135 (Reply 11):
NW Airlink operated from May to October 1993.
Quoting nkops (Reply 12):
I worked for them at the time.. it was operated by Northeast Express / Precision Airlines with a mix of Metros and the Dornier 228 out of BOS

I remember this. In fact, I was actually booked to fly BOS-FRG on a Dornier at one point (probably around Sept 93), but for whatever reason changed my plans and took one of the shuttles to LGA instead. I've always kicked myself for that, because before I had another chance to try the flight it got cancelled, and I haven't had an opportunity to fly into FRG or take a Do 228 again!



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User currently offlineJBfan1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 4):
If they are fighting to keep large jets out of FRG they arent doing a good job. Large bizjets and some commercial charters come over my house multiple times a day and it is increasing. Im not complaining though.

The airport has been more and more populated with larger charters, absolutely. These are the reasons the neighbors keep shooting down any proposals to make the airport bigger and to develope on undeveloped parcels that are on the field ie; new FBO's or Terminal expansions keep getting shot down.

What I never understood is, if you buy a house near an airport, don't you know in advance that there might be a bit of a noise issue?    Or do they figure it out afterward.


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3176 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

"What I never understood is, if you buy a house near an airport, don't you know in advance that there might be a bit of a noise issue? Or do they figure it out afterward."

People will always complain about something. Problem with the United States in 2012 is that we listen to, and give life to, the most ridiculous complaints. That is why:

1. Nothing really gets done
2. Everything that does get done is ridiculously expensive
3. Everything is a slow, drawn out process


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Quoting JBfan1 (Reply 14):

I don't get it either. I remember a few years ago Suffolk County was working to make that area a major business hub and it got shot down by local residents. It does hurt the development of most things.

This is a bit off topic, but isnt this the reason AA stopped flying Mad-Dogs into JFK?


User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Quoting moose135 (Reply 11):
I've been to a few airport commission meetings, and there is one lady - who may very well have lived there when Republic was turning out F-84s - who grills the board about noise every month. Yes, there is extensive business jet traffic, and plenty of sports charters, between the Islanders and local college teams, but don't expect scheduled service of any consequence any time soon.

Ah Helen! I went to the April meeting with my Airport Planning class and basically answered her questions on behalf of the RAC. She is a former RAC member-gone-NIMBY. Has no idea what she is talking about either.



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