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The Valley - Caribbean Aviation Thread 99  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17094 times:

Greetings to all A.net patrons!

Welcome to the 99th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread. This 99th edition will put the spotlight on the tiny picturesque British Overseas territory of Anguilla.




Tucked away in the Eastern Caribbean, Anguilla is the most northern island in the Leeward Island chain, less than 10 NM north of St. Martin and 200 NM east of Puerto Rico, two of Anguilla's major gateways. Approximately 16 miles from its most eastern point to its most western point and 3 NM at its widest point, Anguilla is flat, low-lying and comprised of coral and limestone, covered mostly with rock, sparse scrub oak, few trees and some salt ponds. One main road runs through the center of the island, making Anguilla easy to traverse by car in less than 1/2 an hour.


Anguilla was first settled by Amerindian tribes who migrated from South America. The earliest Amerindian artifacts found on Anguilla have been dated to around 1300 BC, and remains of settlements date from 600 AD. The date of European discovery is uncertain: some sources claim that Columbus sighted the island in 1493, while others state that the island was first discovered by the French in 1564 or 1565.

In 1650, English settlers arrived and colonized Anguilla. They established plantations where corn and tobacco were grown. The settlement survived for six years until Indians from a neighboring island came and destroyed it.
In 1666, the French temporarily took over the island for a brief period of time. However, it was returned to Britain the following year under the Treaty of Breda.

In 1958, St. Kitts, Nevis, and Anguilla became part of the Federation of the West Indies. This Federation collapsed in 1962 and as a result most of the islands developed individual constitutions. St. Kitts, Nevis, and Anguilla together were made an associated statehood — a political decision that sparked the Anguilla Revolution because Anguilla desired its independence from the state. May 30, 1967 is celebrated annually as Anguilla Day, commemorating the repulsion of the Royal St. Kitts Police Force from the island. Britain intervened and a peacekeeping committee was established. Debates over Anguilla’s secession continued to be negotiated for over a decade, and on December 19, 1980, Anguilla became a separate Dependent Territory with some measure of autonomy in government.


Shoal Bay, Anguilla




Viceroy, Anguilla

The Clayton J. Lloyd International Airport (IATA: AXA, ICAO: TQPF) (formerly known as the Anguilla Wallblake Airport) is the island's international airport located very close to The Valley, the island's capital. It has a small terminal with no jetways and is the only airport in Anguilla. The airport became known as the "Clayton J. Lloyd International Airport" on July 4, 2010.


LI climbing out of AXA


AXA seems like corporate jet paradise with many high rollers making the island their choice for high-end secluded vacations.


*****News Feed*****
CAL receives route rights to PTY from Panamanian President Ricardo Martinelli
CAL appoints Clive Forbes as new Jamaica hub general manager
DAE to start daily CUR-MIA June 1 with MD-83
Rumour mill hints at LI acquiring Dash 8 Q-400s that will eventually comprise a Q300/400 mix
PY celebrates its 50th anniversary of operation with small decal applied to PY B733 (PZ-TCO)
CAL unable to receive two dry-leased B763s as a result of ongoing audit of the TTCAA by the FAA
CAL to wet-lease Omni Air International B763 to inaugurate 2x weekly POS-LGW service
9Y-BGI of CAL completes C-check, has JM logo removed. 9Y-JMA might be repainted/sticker-ed
KX to codeshare with CM on NEW GCM-PTY route
Guyana gives approval to EZjet to operate a 2x weekly GEO-YYZ chartered service
AA reduces MIA-UVF from daily to 4x weekly come August 21, 2012
90 Jamaican maintenance personnel made redundant as CAL consolidates its operations
CAL to introduce ATR on the POS-SLU route


As always, happy posting!




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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17129 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CAL receives route rights to PTY from Panamanian President Ricardo Martinelli

Interesting, I dont remember seeing this mentioned. Good for CAL   . Any rumors of start dates?



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17113 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 1):
Interesting, I dont remember seeing this mentioned. Good for CAL   . Any rumors of start dates?

Just normal political hot air. PTY's president was in POS for the Cairbbean Investment Forum.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2...4/panama-president-cal-come-fly-us


Don't expect it to go anywhere. I certainly hope it doesn't. POS-PTY is already well served by CM.



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17089 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):
Just normal political hot air. PTY's president was in POS for the Cairbbean Investment Forum.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2...4/panama-president-cal-come-fly-us


Don't expect it to go anywhere. I certainly hope it doesn't. POS-PTY is already well served by CM.

I see, just got high hopes for something positive with CAL, o well.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 16955 times:

Truly as of right now there is not enough traffic for both CAL and CM on POS-PTY. The route needs to grow a bit more before it can support daily flights from both carriers....and all things being equal I think it better that CM is on it which provides more connections.

If CAL had E-jets, then I could maybe see it working, but putting a 738 in addition to CM is just overkill.



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 16951 times:

I agree furthermore CAL needs to get its house in order right now rather than starting new routes does anyone have any word on the satus of the auudit of the T&T Civil aviation?

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 16939 times:

Thanks for starting up the thread BW424, as always it is very much appreciated my friend. I'm guessing that the next thread will need to be a special one as it will be our 100th Caribbean thread!!! As the threads are about the Caribbean aviation I want to suggest that the 100th thread puts the focus on the history of the aviation in the Caribbean over the past 100 years, instead of focussing on a single island as is customery. This would mean an overview of major developments, key turning points between 1912 and 2012. For example, KLM had the first flight to Curacao in the 1920's with their Fokker called the "Snip". This was the first transatlantic flight to the Caribbean if memory serves me well. I know this task probably is asking for too much but this is just my idea for our 100th thread.

In any case, thanks again for starting this thread   

A388


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2608 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16890 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
If CAL had E-jets, then I could maybe see it working, but putting a 738 in addition to CM is just overkill.

And pretty sure BW isn't in the mood to fly B737-800 POS-PTY-XXX.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlinelucianflyboy From St. Lucia, joined Jun 2005, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16859 times:

'AA reduces MIA-UVF from daily to 4x weekly come August 21, 2012'

Meanwhile, I heard about this, saw the flights gone in SABRE then as quick as it was there, the flights are back operating daily. Did I miss something here?


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2608 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16836 times:

Airlines from the Caribbean arrive in PTY From www.prensa.com - in Spanish
La Prensa today features the news that Cayman Airways started flights to PTY and that Caribbean Airlines completed its permits to operate in PTY (!).
If Caribbean isn't interested in PTY, why submit permits to flight to PTY?



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 16747 times:

Thanks for the new thread BW424, guys Anguilla is great, pricy but recomended for a daytour or more!





User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 16717 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 10):

You have really travelled the Caribbean. Is there any country you have yet to visit. And what should Caribbean countries do to attract more Brazilians. Its clear we cant continue to depend just on North America and Europe as those markets are now quite mature and offer limited opportunities for growth.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 16656 times:

Hey Andrefranca.....looks like you do love the Caribbean. When are you going to make it to Belize   


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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2608 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16578 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 12):
Hey Andrefranca.....looks like you do love the Caribbean. When are you going to make it to Belize

He surely is eagerly awaiting for CM MAO-PTY-BZE ?



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 16537 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 11):

Right I love the caribbean, it's a really pretty place, though some islands are rip off LOL, but I don't blame them, they need it... well I have not visited caymans (but gota my KX flight booked) , belize islands also booked with tropic air... probably after I have saved the money I want I'll make it to grenada, montserrat, we'll see.

Well the first thing is the language barrier, the younger generations are able to speak english, but still most of brazilians can only portuguese, some of them are able to understand spanish but they answer in portuguese, (Panamenians in PTY struggle with that LOL ) so I think CUR and AUA are doing good! they make a lot of adds here in portuguese and videos, commercials etc... that's the why AUA and CUR are still the most popular caribbean islands for us i think, SXM is on the way due to high number of cruise ships.

secondly is the lack of flights, only G3 and CM got a few... JJ the "national carrier" so as they call themselves, only see the US and europe.... I pray and hope that CM keep up with its fair fares and add more islands to their bases.

The only island I don't know if I'll ever come back is BGI after the immigration/customs nightmare which led for my removal from the country I still feel hurt and don't know if i'll have the guts to return. Even the daughter of a tourism minister invited me to give a try while I was in POS but I don't know  
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 12):

I sent you an e-mail, just need to wait the visa issues LOL.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 13):

Although I have already 4 flights with CM for january 2013, to BZE i'm suporting the locals LOL so I'll be flying tropic air.


User currently offlineturk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16490 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
The only island I don't know if I'll ever come back is BGI after the immigration/customs nightmare which led for my removal from the country I still feel hurt and don't know if i'll have the guts to return.

It really makes me feel ashamed to read that you were trreated so poorly by our immigration officers... I can only hope that this is an exception and not the rule.

As a Bajan, I hope that you can look beyond one bad experience and return to our country and see us for who I feel we really are!*

*a hospitable nation that relishes having visitors with whom to share our beautiful island!


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16483 times:

From the rumour mill again, it seems REDjet has finally accepted defeat and officially closed its doors. Termination letters were apparently handed out to whoever was left there yesterday. Still awaiting confirmation on this.


You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16441 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 16):
From the rumour mill again, it seems REDjet has finally accepted defeat and officially closed its doors. Termination letters were apparently handed out to whoever was left there yesterday. Still awaiting confirmation on this.

Thats bad wish they would come back. hope this does not discourage people from investing and doing business in the region especially after all the positive talk from the Caribbean Investment conference held here in NYC


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 16422 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):

Im gonna be in Montserrat during the summer for how long im not sure yet, but ill be there  let me know when you decide on coming. I recommend during Christmas for this year especially as we are celebrating our 50th anniversary of our festival and its supposed to be a really big celebration and ill recommend booking around now because travelling is pretty hectic during that period (especially when you only have 7 seater aircraft!). I have a poster but im not sure if ill be breaking the rules by posting it, so I wont.

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 16):
From the rumour mill again, it seems REDjet has finally accepted defeat and officially closed its doors. Termination letters were apparently handed out to whoever was left there yesterday. Still awaiting confirmation on this.

Im sure we all saw this coming at some point, but still a rumor.



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16370 times:

Here is the link to the sort of confirmation

http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/looks-like-end-for-redjet/

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 16):


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16361 times:

I remember your story from previous threads well hopefully if you do decide to try again it goes smoother have you any word on the G3 flights to BGI?

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
The only island I don't know if I'll ever come back is BGI after the immigration/customs nightmare which led for my removal from the country I still feel hurt and don't know if i'll have the guts to return. Even the daughter of a tourism minister invited me to give a try while I was in POS but I don't know


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16319 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
I sent you an e-mail, just need to wait the visa issues LOL.

I replied.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
Although I have already 4 flights with CM for january 2013, to BZE i'm suporting the locals LOL so I'll be flying tropic air.

And I am sure they appreciate your business. But if CM were to serve BZE, I am sure they would not mind you supporting CM...a rising tide floats all boats.

Way things are going pretty sure you will be able to do RTB/LCE/SAP - BZE - FRS/CUN/MID/GUA sooner than later. Hopefully PM will be able to get its hands on a twin as that BZE-CUN/MID segment will be 1:24 in a 208! Although they are very new 208s.   I have done SAP-BZE and its 54 min right up the Belize Barrier reef. A spectacular view on a sunny day.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16282 times:

Looks like two new airlines are being formed in the Caribbean: Freedom Air and Air Ayiti. The topic is being discussed in below thread:


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/5484835/


Freedom Air seems to be established by a group of ex-TX employees and they want to use the 737-500 while Air Ayiti is from Haiti but I don't know which aircraft they want to use.

All the best to both of them!!!

A388


User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16267 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
As the threads are about the Caribbean aviation I want to suggest that the 100th thread puts the focus on the history of the aviation in the Caribbean over the past 100 years, instead of focussing on a single island as is customery. This would mean an overview of major developments, key turning points between 1912 and 2012. For example, KLM had the first flight to Curacao in the 1920's with their Fokker called the "Snip". This was the first transatlantic flight to the Caribbean if memory serves me well. I know this task probably is asking for too much but this is just my idea for our 100th thread.

I like this idea!

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
The only island I don't know if I'll ever come back is BGI after the immigration/customs nightmare which led for my removal from the country I still feel hurt and don't know if i'll have the guts to return. Even the daughter of a tourism minister invited me to give a try while I was in POS but I don't know  

This really hurt me to hear...



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 16253 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 22):
Looks like two new airlines are being formed in the Caribbean: Freedom Air and Air Ayiti. The topic is being discussed in below thread:


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/5484835/


Freedom Air seems to be established by a group of ex-TX employees and they want to use the 737-500 while Air Ayiti is from Haiti but I don't know which aircraft they want to use.

All the best to both of them!!!

Great to see new airlines in the Caribbean! I really hope they do well when they begin ops.



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25 andrefranca : I always wanted because I know BGI has a lot of things to offer, but officials, mainly the ones who work with visitors and alike, MUST be well traine
26 baje427 : While not condoning their behavious if its one thing I have learned while travelling never argue with immigration/customs it get you no where well the
27 guyanam : While that is true Bajan customs officials need to be told that many tourists other than WHITE Europeans and North Americans provide good business op
28 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : REDjet goes bust BRIDGETOWN, June 8, CMC – A day after dismissing its 94 workers, the Barbadian flag carrier REDjet announced on Friday it was insol
29 caribbean484 : Air travel in the Caribbean can be profitable when: 1) There is an clear and concise policy on air travel and integration e.g. Open Skies, single CAA
30 yellowtail : Well the "minors" would do well to look west to the operations of Tropic Air and Nature Air and apply some of their hard learned operation procedures
31 BW424 : I very much agree with you! I believe everyone should have input in making the 100th thread special! Please do PM me links for pictures and history o
32 baje427 : I noticed AA routed the 762 on the JFK-BGI route yesterday given the 3 class layout on those birds does BGI command the premium seats on a weekend? or
33 b757lvr : Hey 'gens mwen' let me know what you find out about that. Did they work something out with the new govt? The slu govt position seemed quite firm on t
34 Post contains images A388 : Some news from Curacao: Copa Airlines had its inaugural flight to Curacao today and I attended the ceremony. See one of my photos below: The good stuf
35 BW424 : Hearing reports of LI's V2-LGH on fire at the moment @ TAPA in a hangar. Anyone to confirm this?
36 westindian425 : What's this I'm hearing about the LIAT maintenance hangar is completely burned down? Someone confirm please.
37 Post contains links caribbean484 : LIAT aircraft destroyed in hangar fire Plumes of smoke filled the skies Sunday night as one of LIATs two hangers went up in flames, carrying with it o
38 LimaFoxTango : I can confirm. I am at the scene at the moment and the Eastern hangar is practically completely destroyed. The roof has collapsed and the rest of the
39 BW424 : Appreciate the confirmation LFT. WOW.....this is very very unfortunate for LI. Must be an extremely stressful atmosphere at LI at the moment. Thank G
40 817Dreamliiner : Someone put this as a status on bbm and I came here to see if it was mentioned here yet. Thanks for the confirmation LimaFoxTango. I was a bit shocke
41 baje427 : This really comes at a bad time for LI confirmed it is LGH one of LI oldest frames at 21 years old where will maintainence be done in the interim?
42 A388 : This is sad news for LI and lucky indeed to no one got injured or killed. Is the cause of this fire known by now? Can foul play be ruled out (getting
43 C680 : Since the theme of this thread is Anguilla, a question: Since American Eagle stopped operations to Anguilla (AXA) the island is down to Cape Air from
44 baje427 : I would not hold out my breath on those Q400 if they do get them I assume they wont be new build maybe the ex MA birds can be aquired. The ATR is bett
45 LimaFoxTango : Don't be surprised if some or all of CAL's ATR's end up at LI from what I'm now hearing. LI still has a second hangar which is still intact and can b
46 andrefranca : While I was in Anguilla, people told me that the GOVT wants that way, they don't want Anguilla to become a "new" SXM or BGI, they want to keep low pr
47 guyanam : No likelihood of more airlift into AXA. Even their govt seems to promote SXM as its hub, given its excellent service to the US, Europe and the rest o
48 baje427 : Well that would be better than the Q400 as they are more suited to LI ops does CAL use the IFE on the ATR on CCS-POS route does anyone know?
49 Post contains images BW424 : What a very interesting statement...hmm Must be devastating for the LI family. It will be very interesting to see what the investigation discovers. T
50 Post contains images LimaFoxTango : AXA is also taking advantage of the large private aircraft traffic into SXM during the busy season. They are building a new ramp area which will nbec
51 N312RM : Thanks for the picture BW424, very sad.
52 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Hey dude, was doing some research on the topic and here is an answer Opposition Wants Explanation On AA Flip-Flop "The former prime minister said he
53 817Dreamliiner : Is that last picture of LGH? its pretty much completely burned out! wow! Thanks for sharing those 484.[Edited 2012-06-11 22:06:12]
54 caribbean484 : No probs man, yeah that's her pretty much completely burnt.
55 andrefranca : poor acft, RIP! I wonder if it will be a huuuuge blow on already hurt LI ? or maybe someone is waiting to touch the insurance $$$ ?
56 baje427 : Wow all that shows an aircraft was there are the remains of the engine given the aircraft was in a C check I assume LI schedule would have already bee
57 Post contains links and images LimaFoxTango : LI's summer scheduled begins on July 8th and this aircraft would've been ready for then. It will be a great hit to the operation because LI run's a p
58 baje427 : Interesting is the frame being used for parts? remeber the days when the Dash was new and flying alongside the Avros.
59 817Dreamliiner : Well its been sitting there as long as can remember so i guess its being used for parts.
60 LimaFoxTango : Indeed it was used for parts for many years, but I think by now they've gotten all they can from it.
61 baje427 : Just for those interested all RD aircraft have now left BGI to be flown to the states where there are to be sold.
62 Post contains links BW985 : Does anyone know what is going on with the audit mentioned in this article? http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,161754.html
63 inbound : 985, from what I understand, the audit isn't suppose to begin until the first week in July. Then I'm not sure how long it will take.
64 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Caribbean Airlines London service takes off today The inaugural flight of Caribbean Airlines’ Limited (CAL) to London takes off today as flight BW 9
65 westindian425 : Physical inspections are done before and after every flight! That's nothing special. lol!
66 Post contains links AA1818 : http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2...rop-london-route-if-it-loses-money So who's really running the airline!!?? The Minister of Transportation? The
67 BW985 : Maharaj does not seem realize that no-one will book these flights when you make such statements to the press...
68 A388 : It becomes special if the inspectors of the TT CAA aren't qualified to do checks on the 767. I can imagine that the delay of this audit might also be
69 baje427 : Is CAL still going to run the 767 on LGW-BGI everything seems so low keyed at this point could CAL exit the agreement with the 767?
70 A388 : I don't think Caribbean Airlines can back out of their 767 agreement without (very) heavy penalties. Same goes for their ATR72-600's unless they find
71 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LIAT releases estimate of losses ST. JOHN’S, Antigua, June 14, 2012 – Based on currently available information, LIAT estimates that insured losses
72 BWIA 772 : I am going to say between the chairman and the minister. CAL has unfortunately become a political football and as a result ignorance will ensue. This
73 LimaFoxTango : Gov't of Dominica will be investing EC$8 million dollars into LI, half of which would be paid within a week or two. Not a particularly large amount, b
74 guyanam : Well a man wrote in the Guardian blog of his plans to use BA foir Xmas as he cant risk fiunding out in NOv that the route is canceled. This is what h
75 A388 : It is indeed very strange to say right after the opening ceremony of a route that the same route will be dropped if it doesn't perform well. That doe
76 baje427 : I agree such comments do not inspire confidence has anyone here had the chance to fly on CAL ATR? how have you found them?. Noticed the Q300 is back o
77 AA1818 : I've flown on the ATR a few times between POS and TAB and love it! Very comfortable, no noticeable difference in travel time. Seats are more comforta
78 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Hey guys Im currently in ANU about watch my BA flight take off ive got lots of pics so look out for a trip report!
79 baje427 : Will be looking for the trip report considering you guys on the forum take a fair amount of trips we should have more Caribbean trip reports
80 baje427 : Nice I travelled on the Q300 when they were brand newI found them nice at the time question did they do a manual safety demo or was it done on the lcd
81 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Very true, made a special effort to take a good amount of pics ( ended up with 109!), Also I need to add, theres a bit of a surprise on the ANU-MNI l
82 Post contains images andrefranca : Another route not being ANU , SKB ? I'm waiting for that!
83 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Well its quite a longish report (in terms of pics, 109! might be trimmed down), but lets just say its something not worth refusing
84 baje427 : Will be looking forward to your report.
85 BW424 : Well, with these pack of jokers, anything is possible. I'm not surprised that he made that comment on an opening. He isn't one of the brightest out t
86 guyanam : Assuming that the route continues as a 2-3X/week POZS LGW nonstop they will have to redeploy the 767 on their JFK route. I assume that means nonstop
87 trintocan : It is very sad to hear of the hangar fire at LI which destroyed one of their Dash 8 300s. For an airline which has been struggling so much of late it
88 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : As promised heres my trip report it includes the surprise but you have to read to the end: Uni's Over! MAN-LGW-ANU-MNI On BA And SVG Air (by 817Dream
89 A388 : Excellent report 817Dreamliiner. I posted on your trip report. It's sad indeed to see the LGW route of Caribbean Airlines going as it is now. Those 7
90 baje427 : For those of you in T&T given the current pullout of the MSJ from government what implicaions would this have on the T&t government. I dont th
91 Post contains images andrefranca : Once again congrats for the TR! I'm feeling a bit jealous! I might no be a fan of LIAT because of their bad service, but if EC islands don't support
92 beeweel15 : CAL would step in
93 BE77 : Even during a good time for BW, many might suggest that they were not the answer to the question posed. On the interisland trips, BW has cancelled, l
94 817Dreamliiner : Thanks guys! And andrefranca, I hope you get lucky as I did whenever you decide on coming to MNI.
95 Post contains images andrefranca : not wanting to offend beeweel15, BW is in shambles, I WILL BE HONESTLY SURPRISED if they make it to Q4 2013.
96 LimaFoxTango : What a joke.
97 baje427 : Is there any update on the ATR or Q400 proposed for LI?
98 guyanam : If LI collapses BW will cherry pick the routes that suit them and service in the northern part of LIATs network will suffer greatly. There is absolut
99 Post contains links and images 2travel2know2 : US-Suriname initial open skies agreement From www.state.gov - Not in Nederlaans Would this mean that AA may fly B737-800 MIA-PBM 2-3 times per week so
100 yellowtail : Now that would be nice....I will start traveling to PBM in January and will do so a couple of times a year going forward. Would be nice to avoid POS.
101 2travel2know2 : You could get to CUR and fly 7I Insel from there. As for CM to PBM.. most likely it has been studied @ CM route planning department.
102 yellowtail : well everything gets studied....but are they interested right now...IMHO not likely. unless I am going to the other side of the world....i tend to av
103 A388 : I think you mean multiple stops with different airlines, right? Because Caribbean Airlines doesn't fly from PTY to POS yet (allowing more conveniency
104 BE77 : Direct PBM to anywhere in North America would really, really make a dfference. It doesn't matter where to really, but MIA is certainly the most likel
105 yellowtail : And to get to CUR from BZE either involves.....BZE-MIA-CUR or BZE-SAL-SJO-PTY-CUR....
106 A388 : I'm not so sure about that seeing that PY already flies to MIA with their locally (Surinamese) registered aircraft (albeit via AUA and GEO). When was
107 BE77 : You are probably right - I can't find the current list, but some references say they are CAT 1. With the downgrade of CUR and BGI recently, I thought
108 caribbean484 : Suriname is a Cat 1 country, the reason why PY has to stop off another destination is because PBM does not meet that TSA security mandate after 9/11.
109 Post contains images andrefranca : Yeah funny though! I've been doing a search return PBM-AMS with both KL and PY are average 800 USD, JJ charging that in brazil? DREAM ON! You have a
110 BW424 : LOL, sorry for the late response......had a hectic week with work and well the Miami Heat win.....place has been euphoric past couple days...Anyway,
111 Post contains images yellowtail : Yes. Except for TA. CM is overdue
112 BE77 : Thanks for the info which certainly answers why they stop elsewhere, etc. The security reason probably then explains why work seems to be (finally) a
113 Inbound : Can you confirm this? I would really prefer this arrangement if true.
114 caribbean484 : Afrim Inbound, CAL will now report over to the ministry of Finance and hopefully a new competent management and board come along.
115 Post contains links BW424 : "Bankers hail Howai as Finance Minister" Chief executive officer of First Citizens Group, Larry Howai, is T&T’s new Finance Minister. Howai coul
116 Post contains images A388 : That clears it up, thanks Caribbean484!!! I'm a bit wiser now Let's hope Caribbean Airlines can now get everything in order now. A388
117 Post contains images andrefranca : Let's hope for the best indeed! before that I was thinking "CAL is gone in 3,2,1...."
118 baje427 : Can you guys confirm when AA will discontinue DFW-BGI I see the flight still operates on Saturdays.
119 BW424 : Well, the major issue is the board and I'm not certain that it will be changed. It is reported that CAL's cabin crews are having 3 night or 6 night l
120 2travel2know2 : Operating POS-LGW red-eyes and LGW-POS red-eyes would mean B767 lots of hours @LGW tarmac but the same crew would be flying it to and from LGW. BW sh
121 Post contains links BW424 : "Devant Maharaj: Lok Jack can’t advise me" "TRANSPORT MINISTER Devant Maharaj said he is not taking any advice from former Caribbean Airlines (CAL)
122 Inbound : Agreed. 100% Good riddance!
123 A388 : I haven't read much of the Air Jamaica operation in Jamaica, what's the status of this? Will Caribbean Airlines stop their Jamaican operation alltoget
124 817Dreamliiner : I guess no news is good news? But like you, im curious on whats happening with the Jamaica operation.
125 westindian425 : What exactly is the job of the Transport Minister? I'm going to be armchair CEO for a bit and propose an idea to you guys. LI, BW, TX, 7I, and 9H for
126 A388 : Nice idea but to start, 7I and 9H are competitors and in my view will not be working together in any way, let alone in the same alliance. Secondly, t
127 guyanam : Doubt it. If AA doesnt service GEO, which has vastly more traffic to the USA, I hardly see them doing PBM. Especialy as the bulk of those traveling a
128 BE77 : I travel to PBM quite a bit (say 10* per year), and probably use BW 65%, 7I and PY the rest of the time. BW mostly because of the POS-YYZ connection
129 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : Lets wish CM to fly to PBM someday and you could have the choice of YYZ-PTY-PBM, earning miles with Air Canada or United because Star Alliance.
130 yellowtail : Amen to the nexus card!
131 Post contains images BE77 : I usually max out the *A miles by using AC for YYZ-BGI on the way south as it's the same travel time as any other route, and more reliable than most
132 guyanam : The issue is that PBM can't guarantee viable nonstop MIA service year round. If that were viable PY would have done that long ago.
133 2travel2know2 : If PY had tried MIA with origin in BEL or FOR another would have been the performance. As far as I know, Surinamese passport holders don't need visas
134 BW424 : Nothing has really changed. Pulling out of Jamaica is certainly out of the question as the GOJ has a 16% stake and well, if CAL really wants to gain
135 SJOtoLIR : KL AMS-HAV will rise their frequencies from 3x up to 4x weekly next year: KL 723.......AMS 11:00...........HAV 15:15............Mo, Tu, Th, Sa........
136 A388 : Thanks for the update BW424 but is it really wise for Caribbean Airlines to get rid of the Air Jamaica painted aircraft seeing how Jamaicans apparent
137 BE77 : Probably a true statement. Repainting the aircraft won't affect it though since people still know what the story is. Despising BW is an international
138 yellowtail : And we should support them...just like we do with other pan-Caribbean companies..... Incidentally, I always amuse myself with all the rah rah "I only
139 westindian425 : I thought the ABC islands were granted full independence. I might have been mistaken. I wasn't thinking of merging the carriers to form a mega carrie
140 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Was browsing the Caribbean Airlines facebook page and found these: Caribbean Airlines B767-300ER (CC-CDP) by AeroArturoZ, on Flickr the second 767 for
141 A388 : Good points, I was just repeating what I have read so far in the forum. The Trinidad/Jamaica discussions have amazed me but as I have said every time
142 guyanam : PY already has a MIA PBM BEL service. If there is not viable traffic to FOR from PBM then it makes no sense to service that city as there will not be
143 Post contains links andrefranca : Although I'm not caribbean I try to support caribbean goods! better BW than AA where most of employees can't even point your island on the map. I don
144 Inbound : I think this has to do with the audit. They cannot have 2 "brands" under one AOC. That's why they are removing the JM stickers from the original CAL
145 A388 : SAB, EUX and BON aren't exactly happy now either. A388
146 andrefranca : at the moment they have many choices? I don't think so, unless they become Singapore-like islands!
147 A388 : Yes, they have choices. That's what democracy is all about. A388
148 guyanam : Well which "intelligent" person under the Lok Jack regime didnt know about the AOC limitations. Before any one pretends as if the dual brand idea is
149 trintocan : Slightly off aviation but relevant to the present discussions. CUR is not in the EU but FDF and PTP are. The last few years have seen a number of cha
150 guyanam : Help me understand something. If AUA,CUR and SXM are jurisdictions within the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and that Kingdom is within the EU seems qui
151 andrefranca : They used their democracy to chose, if you don't remeber.... but now.... tic tac tic tac time is running. haaaam well their immigration is not (yet)
152 guyanam : Surrounded by English speaking islands, with many of the local St Maarteners/St Martiners being descended from migrations from these islands, not onl
153 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Looks like BGI had a nice visitor the other day: View Large View MediumPhoto © Gianni Deligny Thanks to Gianni Deligny for the photo!
154 A388 : Again, they can still chose, that is what democracy is all about. A388
155 baje427 : Nice to see BGI make it on the first page for photos has anyone heard any reviews of CAL's service standards recently?
156 yellowtail : Little dickie bird telling me that B6 are about to announce 3 new latin/caribbean routes for late 2012 start. stand by
157 Ahlfors : Antigua please!
158 Post contains images A388 : CUR please A388
159 Post contains links caribbean484 : Arson ruled out in LIAT fire "Arson has been ruled out as the cause of the June 10 fire that destroyed one of LIAT’s passenger aircraft in a blaze t
160 yellowtail : I suspect you may get your wish.....but will I get mine? we'll see......
161 Post contains links BWIA 772 : I was a bit taken back by this admission. What was striking to me was that the current administration was so fond of RD and treated LI like some bast
162 baje427 : The whole RD issue is an embarassment imo I always wondered why LI remained based in ANU and the BGI was the largest shareholder and why BGI tax dolla
163 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL ATR's for sale STATE-owned Caribbean Airlines (CAL) is looking for sale for four of the nine brand new ATR-72-600 turbo prop aircraft it ordered l
164 BE77 : Interesting. A pretty comprehensive summary confirming a large number of rumours, reports, and speculation (and of course a.nut gossip) in the last f
165 baje427 : I think BW operated POS-PBM with the Q300 initially its really sad whats become of CAL other than LI and TX I cant see what other regional airline wou
166 goaibusgo : I have worked on ATRs for 7 years as cabin crew. I worked on all types (42-300/500 and 72-200/212/500) except the 600 series of course, first in Cari
167 guyanam : REdjet just needs to go away. From the beginning every one who was serious about Caribbean aviation knew that their model was flawed. There was the n
168 baje427 : I am not saying they should operate the ATR between POS-PBM just mentioning that BW operated the Q on the route when they initially started. I would i
169 817Dreamliiner : Thats unfortunate, was hoping that they would be able to secure the funding for those aircraft, o well. Wondering which airline in the region is inte
170 Post contains links JM02 : Just came back from Jamaica and posted my first ever trip report - as of 28 Oct, BA flights to KIN will operate on SUN, TUE and THU. This will be the
171 divemaster08 : Come on GCM! Please lets get B6! But with all the San Juan talk now, I think it will be 3 new destinations from there....... sad face
172 Post contains images andrefranca : my prays B6 to GCM BZE RTB PMV
173 yellowtail : What people fail to realize is that when a new carrier starts a new destination (esp an LCC) the market has to be sufficiently mature for the pie to g
174 817Dreamliiner : Well done on your report! Ive already commented on it a few minutes ago, its nice to see Caribbean reports! Thanks for sharing with us.
175 divemaster08 : RTB is a market I think that in the near future, were gonna see some interesting developments. The Mosquito Coast, and the Bay Islands look to be one
176 2travel2know2 : PMV really?
177 yellowtail : I am booking BZE-MIA-POS for late August on AA's website ...and I saw something strange....the AA.com is giving me options on DL via ATL (BZE-ATL-MIA-
178 divemaster08 : ur and my definition of cheap are obviously different! With Sosa airlines also competing on the route, im sure KX have had to lower their fares.....
179 Post contains links beeweel15 : Got this online on the operator of the 767 EZjet using to fly to GEO Swift Air Files For Ch.11 (by cbphoto Jun 28 2012 in Civil Aviation) http://www.m
180 Post contains images andrefranca : I'm actually flying with your KX from HAV to GCM and later on to LCE paid 450 USD for these flights! probably you'll see my trip report! I remember w
181 2travel2know2 : These days it's going to be very very tough, not to say impossible, for a U.S. airline get rights to fly to Venezuela. I doubt Venezuela is treating
182 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Just watching the west indies cricket match vs new zealand in Lauderhill, Florida and noticed a few Caribbean Airlines advertising boards, , nice too
183 Post contains images andrefranca : That's correct, I just hope he'll be cut off on next elections.... Yeah I imagine the 25 usd "visa" are well used, because only listen to nice things
184 AA1818 : According to one of the newspapers, CAL will take three more ATRs and will sell the remaining 4. Seems like a fair decision. Replace the Dash8's on a
185 2travel2know2 : I went to Spanish Town and walked around down-town Kingston, was that as crazy as walking KIN Favelas?
186 Post contains links BW424 : Here's the article....interesting...I guess the MRO possibility is out the window now..... "CAL taking 3 more ATRs" Caribbean Airlines Limited (CAL)
187 yellowtail : Sosa doesn't compete...they barely even fly :^)
188 andrefranca : Well I felt everyone was looking at me and wondering what I was doing there! naturally I could not blend in with the locals! but the same old thing..
189 baje427 : I guess then no ATR's will be heading to Jamaica.
190 divemaster08 : they focus on the correct market, the long weekend trips and the family connections. Dont need to fly everyday to keep the people happy, just as long
191 Post contains images yellowtail : First new B6 route is out....JFK-CTG...3Xweek Ok..let me put it another day....I would NEVER fly them
192 andrefranca : Ouch!, couldn't see that coming! I sosa that bad yellowtail? LOL
193 divemaster08 : Lol well why not say that! from what i hear they get the job done on the CRJ.... and have flights to the bay islands waiting to meet that aircraft fr
194 N312RM : In my opinion, GCM is a no go for B6. I can't see them doing it without significant concessions from the CIAA or marketing support from the DOT. Ther
195 Post contains images westindian425 : Spirit failed a few markets in the Caribbean miserably.
196 guyanam : So when the audit is over and CAL is (hopefuly) able to operate its 767s what are the planned routes? Clearly the 2X to LGW will not be the only optio
197 yellowtail : well every carrier has had their fair share of misses.....DL (ATL-TAB), UA (EWR-BGI), AA (BGI-DFW), US (PHX-MBJ), even BA and VS.
198 SJOtoLIR : KLM is increasing the Amsterdam - Havana service from June 03rd 2013. The Airbus 330-200 will replace the MD11 aircraft. Regards.
199 trintocan : To be strictly correct, EWR - BGI was a CO service and had been terminated long before the UA merger. Others which come to mind are BA LGW - MBJ, VS
200 andrefranca : Aeropostal MAO-PMV !!! I wonder how is PBM - BEL doing with PY? anyone? or FDF BEL with TX?
201 baje427 : You can also add DL ATL-BGI US PHL-BGI to the list
202 Post contains links MaverickM11 : Fly Jamaica Airways set for certain disaster...I mean takeoff. "The airline has already acquired its own Boeing 757 aircraft that will comfortably sea
203 Post contains images westindian425 : Now, now, Maverick. It is possible they can hold their own if they make wise decisions. BW has been going through so many issues because of bad decis
204 Post contains links andrefranca : Hey guys people were talking about EZ for a while, but now it seems official.... "EZjet has announced that flights to Toronto, Canada will begin on Ju
205 kasimir : Finally back to lovely CUR after being off the island for business travel for nearly 3 months... During that time I was able to also fly with Air Berl
206 Post contains images andrefranca : I checked their prices, 300 USD cheaper than KLM, that's good!
207 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Havent posted in this thread for a while My return to MAN has been booked, so it will be mid September for my next flights with return in December. Fl
208 yellowtail : IF you add this and this Then they are making ZERO money. yields must be in the toilet.
209 JM017 : Yeah, I second this. I support any entrant into the market and hope the venture succeeds. I would give them my direct support if they flew from Balti
210 divemaster08 : One thing that B6 has is better suited aircraft for the route to GCM. The E190 is perfect from either JFK/MCO/FLL. Spirit tried and failed. B6 has mo
211 kasimir : Why should AB lose money on a fully booked flight? Its not like they have a lot of C seats in their planes and AB is seen as a no-frills airline... I
212 N312RM : My post did not suggest or imply that DOT keep KX as the dominant carrier nor that the CIAA could refuse carriers from serving Cayman. That is not th
213 N312RM : Following my post yesterday, here is the announcement. Interestingly, B6 is also adding a weekly BOS rotation. (CNS Business): JetBlue Airways has ann
214 andrefranca : I KNEW IT! I could see that coming! Just one "little" thing N312RM, I think the cayman would get more visitors and alike if it was a more affordable
215 N312RM : I hear you loud and clear andrefranca. You must be planning a visit in the January - April time frame, the height of the tourism season. You won't fin
216 yellowtail : So one last destination left in the region to announce ....is it to be PTY or ANU?
217 divemaster08 : Had a little "inside" line about B6, and glad they finally announced it! Lets hope nothing slows them now! Inreference to visiting GCM, unfortunately
218 LimaFoxTango : I wouldn't be surprised if ANU is announced sometime in the future. However, I think it may probably be a SJU-ANU flight rather than one from JFK. Wi
219 guyanam : Appreciate your thoughts on the MQ situation. From what I understand US visas are very difficult and pricey as it now entails a trip to BGI, as US co
220 andrefranca : Yeah I can't really escape it :/ from my research, the cheapest in island is Eldemire's Guest House, close to 7 mile! average 150 usd night.
221 LimaFoxTango : Saw 9Y-JMA in BGI today and "Air Jamaica" titles has been removed and "Caribbean Airlines" placed instead. Couldn't get close for a good enough pic. I
222 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Hey Guys I did a rather short bit of plane spotting at MNI today after work, at a not so secret spotting location its not much but a must see, hoping
223 wadadli : I agree with you 100% on this. B6 joining NY area run would be an overkill and i recall reading in the press when the government was in talks with AA
224 Post contains links and images westindian425 : TTCAA has instructed CAL to drop the Air Jamaica brand. http://www.stabroeknews.com/2012/new...rop-air-jamaica-brand-from-planes/
225 N312RM : Not surprising. i know the family that own and run the facility, very friendly. It is just south of George Town. suggest you also consider renting a
226 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up Caribbean Aviation- The Centurion Thread (by BW424 Jul 16 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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