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Airlines In The 'Six Continents Club'?  
User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 347 posts, RR: 14
Posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22519 times:

I was wondering which all airlines are now in the 'Six Continents Club'.? i.e. fly their own aircraft to all six continents without code shares.

EK, DL, UA, QR, SQ for sure. BA? AA? CX?

A notable exception appears to be LH which relies on SQ to take passengers on to Australia-New Zealand.

This begs another question. In these days of alliances, how important is it, to be a member of the Six Continents Club?

Thanks in advance.


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22479 times:

AA for sure doesn't, they don't fly to Australia or Africa.

Up until very recently, you could include both QF and MH, as they both flew to EZE.

BA is a member of the 6 continent club.

And in this day and age, it's not important at all. Why take a loss on a route that one of your partners can do much better with?

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6570 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22416 times:

You can also add KE which flies to GRU in South America and CAI in Africa. I would also count AF who flies to PPT which is in Oceania.

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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22404 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
Up until very recently, you could include both QF and MH, as they both flew to EZE.

You can still include QF, as they merely swapped EZE for SCL.


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22367 times:

So the full list is BA, EK, DL, UA, QR, SQ, QF, AF (Papeete counts as Australasia), KE.

Quoting BLRAviation (Thread starter):
This begs another question. In these days of alliances, how important is it, to be a member of the Six Continents Club?

I don't think it's worth losing money over, but it definitely adds a lot of prestige. Britain is crap at almost everything these days (still reeling from the awfulness of the jubilee concert...please don't say you saw it, would die of embarrassment if you did), but we're very very good at flying and one of the things about BA that I'm proud of is that they are in the six-continents club.



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User currently offlinepolarexpress From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22268 times:

You can probably add SA, as I think they fly to EZE and GRU in South America, PER in Australia, and JFK and IAD in North America

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22115 times:

In a few month's time, I think EY would join that club too

Quoting BLRAviation (Thread starter):
This begs another question. In these days of alliances, how important is it, to be a member of the Six Continents Club?

It's only valuable if you can serve all 6 continents nonstop from your home hubs (not scissor hub tag-ons). LH and CX are 2 giants who explicitly decided not to join the club (and probably a smart choice)

BA and QF could both drastically improve their finances if they hand off to each other at SIN similar to how they do it at BKK and HKG. That's the only way against EK's on-slaught.


User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 347 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22084 times:

Thanks to everyone for their quick and complete replies.


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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 22036 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 6):
BA and QF could both drastically improve their finances if they hand off to each other at SIN similar to how they do it at BKK and HKG.

You may be right but I am not so sure. If all QF offers is a flight to SIN or BKK, why bother booking with them if your destination is in Europe?

I can see the advantages from the airlines' point of view. But what about from the passengers'? While a lot of airline travel relies on ignorance: yes i will repeat that the airlines rely on ignorance to sell tickets on routes that they do not actually fly. What advantage is there to the passenger in having a ticket that may not let you check-in online because it is a codeshare, does not let you select a seat on all sectors because it is a codeshare and results in both airlines passing the buck when there is a cancellation because it is a codeshare?

Perhaps some people prefer to deal with just one airline, in case things go wrong. Maybe EK, SQ, MH, TG are not so bad after all.  


User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21951 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 8):
If all QF offers is a flight to SIN or BKK, why bother booking with them if your destination is in Europe?

I favor doing things on one own's metal instead of over-dependence on partners .... up to the point that it remains profitable.

A 14hour SIN-LHR tag-on is way tougher economically than a 2 hour idle-utilization hop like HKG-SGN.


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1676 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21910 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 8):
What advantage is there to the passenger in having a ticket that may not let you check-in online because it is a codeshare, does not let you select a seat on all sectors because it is a codeshare and results in both airlines passing the buck when there is a cancellation because it is a codeshare?

Loyalty programs!

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4):
(Papeete counts as Australasia)

Personally I wouldn't count Papeete. Also, "Australasia" is not a continent, Asia is a continent, and Australia is a continent. Papeete is not on either continent. Personally I would remove AF from the list.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21818 times:

What South American destinations does SQ has? GRU? I wan't aware of any.

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21801 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 10):

Personally I wouldn't count Papeete. Also, "Australasia" is not a continent, Asia is a continent, and Australia is a continent. Papeete is not on either continent. Personally I would remove AF from the list.

French Polynesia is usually considered part of the continent of Australia. Therefore, it would count.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21759 times:

Quoting AM744 (Reply 11):
What South American destinations does SQ has? GRU? I wan't aware of any.

Correct, SQ flies SIN-BCN-GRU.


User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21745 times:

I should also add that EY is on their way into this club next summer, as they've announced AUH-GRU to begin June 2013. They already serve the other five continents.

User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 347 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21655 times:

Quoting AM744 (Reply 11):

What South American destinations does SQ has? GRU? I wan't aware of any.

Yes GRU. SIN-BCN-GRU.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 6):
BA and QF could both drastically improve their finances if they hand off to each other at SIN similar to how they do it at BKK and HKG. That's the only way against EK's on-slaught.

Very sensible. Why do BA and QF not do a better job at collaboration?

This does raise another question. Despite being in alliances, many airlines go out of their way to ensure passengers fly only their metal. For example SQ has the PPS Club in addition to Krisflyer. PPS is meant for F/J class passengers on SQ. No credit for *A flights.

United has the 100K which is above *A Gold. The same with LH and Hon Circle, TG and its new Platinum level on its Royal Orchid.

Does this not work against the spirit of the alliance?



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21525 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 10):
Also, "Australasia" is not a continent, Asia is a continent, and Australia is a continent. Papeete is not on either continent. Personally I would remove AF from the list.

There are many ways to interpret what a continent is, convention associates smaller islands/landmasses with major continents, which is this case is commonly referred to as Australasia or sometimes Oceana. I wouldn't say Paepeete is on it, but I define Austalasia as a continent limited by the bounds of the continental shelf and neighboring New Zealand.


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User currently offlinehuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1114 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21438 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 12):
French Polynesia is usually considered part of the continent of Australia. Therefore, it would count.
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 16):
There are many ways to interpret what a continent is, convention associates smaller islands/landmasses with major continents, which is this case is commonly referred to as Australasia or sometimes Oceana. I wouldn't say Paepeete is on it, but I define Austalasia as a continent limited by the bounds of the continental shelf and neighboring New Zealand.

While the geographical notion of a continent is a single landmass, today, many (especially organisations like the UN) would call that "continent" Oceania. "Australasia" is actually a region which is part of Oceania, which includes other island groups such as Polynesia, and is usually not considered a continent in itself.

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 15):
Does this not work against the spirit of the alliance?

It is workable only if every member in an alliance are of equal standards and did not see a need for product differentiation. Reality tells us it this cannot be so, especially when airfares are usually not standardised either between alliance members flying the same routes.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21390 times:

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 15):
For example SQ has the PPS Club in addition to Krisflyer. PPS is meant for F/J class passengers on SQ. No credit for *A flights.

United has the 100K which is above *A Gold. The same with LH and Hon Circle, TG and its new Platinum level on its Royal Orchid.

I think PPS and Hon Circle are both way harder to attain than UA 1K (not 100K)... UA's Global Services might come a bit closer in terms of exclusivity, but not in terms of service.

IIRC, even BA's Gold tier has sub-tiers that are more exclusive, including Concorde Room and partner status matching

Does AA's Concierge Key customers actually rank higher when prioritizing upgrades, or they're identical to EXP ?


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21325 times:

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 15):
Very sensible. Why do BA and QF not do a better job at collaboration?

BA and QF do collaborate through BKK and HKG, just not SIN.

There was a recent CAPA article about how BA strategically may align itself with QR, while QF is more likely to align with EK. The article had a lot of speculation, but the logic behind the speculation was explained nicely. If that ends up the case, it could split oneworld and definitely would break the QF/BA partnership.



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User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 347 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21307 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 18):
UA 1K (not 100K)

Thanks for correcting me.



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User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 347 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21282 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 19):
There was a recent CAPA article about how BA strategically may align itself with QR, while QF is more likely to align with EK. The article had a lot of speculation, but the logic behind the speculation was explained nicely. If that ends up the case, it could split oneworld and definitely would break the QF/BA partnership.

Rohit, don't fall for that. CAPA does this quite regularly, especially around April 1, as an April fools joke. Last year it was that EK was taking over Airbus.  

Can you honestly believe that BA or QF will align with any of the GCC carriers.



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User currently offlinecv990coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21268 times:
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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21246 times:

Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 21):
Rohit, don't fall for that. CAPA does this quite regularly, especially around April 1, as an April fools joke. Last year it was that EK was taking over Airbus.

As I said, it's all speculation. And as I've said on Airliners-India many times, you should take CAPA articles with lots of salt.
But it made interesting reading  
Quoting BLRAviation (Reply 21):
Can you honestly believe that BA or QF will align with any of the GCC carriers.

If it is necessary for their long term survival, yeah. These are tough times financially for those carriers.

You've already seen LH try this in a way by allowing TK into the alliance. This is just another step..



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1676 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21234 times:

Quoting huaiwei (Reply 17):
While the geographical notion of a continent is a single landmass, today, many (especially organisations like the UN) would call that "continent" Oceania. "Australasia" is actually a region which is part of Oceania, which includes other island groups such as Polynesia, and is usually not considered a continent in itself.

Correct, the UN does call it Oceania, but it doesn't really help the traveller that wants to go to Australia proper to fly to Papeete then connect 7 hours to SYD. So from a network perspective I'd say PPT is rather limited.


25 planenutz : Isn't Transaero now part of this club? Are they still flying to GIG and aren't there plans for SYD? Their routes and schedules seem to change to quick
26 cedarjet : Believe me I am no fan of "Air Chance" and would cheerfully remove them from any list of great airlines of the world, but geography, alas, is not a m
27 qf002 : I think QF should get a special mention for coming closest to being a part of the 'Seven Continent Club' with their regular Antarctic Sightseeing Flig
28 Viscount724 : French Polynesia is part of Oceania but this thread is referring to continents and the continent is Australia. French Polynesia is further from Austr
29 Zkpilot : No, it is commonly included in Oceania which is just a grouping and not a continent as such. Australia/Australasia is a continent as New Zealand is p
30 Post contains images cedarjet : Fact of the day: the airline with regular (albeit not scheduled) service to the most northerly and most southerly points is an interesting one. Ushuai
31 Quokkas : Actually it is. There are several conflicting opinions on how many continents there are. It is a pity that the late Baroque is not with us as I am su
32 Post contains images PlymSpotter : One way to put it in perspective is to consider why Australia on it's own would be a continent, whilst Greenland is part of North America.
33 Viscount724 : Australia is more than 3.5 times larger than Greenland.
34 agent99nzboi : Oh such poor geographical knowledge. Australia may be as a large land-mass considered a continent. However Its 2012, we live in such a global and acc
35 Post contains links RDH3E : There is a difference between an island "belonging to" a continent, and actually physically being a part of it. And in this respect, a flight to AKL
36 einsteinboricua : And this is why I don't say Australia is a continent but rather Oceania, which includes Australia, New Zealand, and many of the islands around.
37 Viscount724 : If you asked AF whether they serve 6 continents, I doubt they would agree. There is a difference between the continent of Australia as most people th
38 qf002 : Technically a flight arriving into French Polynesia is arriving into France. France is not an Australasian, Oceanic, Australian, South Pacific, whatev
39 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Which is in turn 2.5-3 times larger than the next largest island*. So why not refer to it as a separate continent too - this is the point, there is n
40 nicode : I disagree with you. Geographically speaking, French Polynesia is in Oceania. As well as RUN is in Africa, French Guyana in America (or South America
41 NZ107 : I don't really think it matters about New Zealand for this case anyway because any eligible airline is bound to also fly to Australia - in this case,
42 rwy04lga : Australia is one massive landmass, while Greenland is a ring of islands encompassing a block of ice that depresses the ground beneath to below sea le
43 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Hypothetically if the icecap disappeared tomorrow it wouldn't be a ring of islands, it would be a near totally landlocked sea around which the land i
44 Post contains images TWA902fly : You can call it whatever you want, but PPT-SYD is a longer distance then JFK-LHR. As a matter of fact, PPT is almost halfway between SYD and LAX. By
45 Post contains images BLRAviation : This is indeed a great fact to have. Thanks. So true. Keeping in view Cedarjet's reply about AirBerlin flying to to USH and LYR with charters, QF ind
46 b741 : I'm sure back in the day you could include PA and TWA. Or at least they did RTW flights.
47 RWA380 : BOAC too.... BTW, doesn't SU operate to all 6 continents? If not, at least at one time they did correct? Wasn't Aeroflot the worlds largest airline d
48 KiwiRob : New Zealand isn't on the same continent as Australia, New Zealand is on the submerged continent of Zealandia.
49 AAMDanny : VS? LHR - North America (JFK, LAX etc) LHR- - Africa (LOS, NBO, JNB, CPT, ACC) LHR - Mid East (DXB) LHR - Far East (NRT, PVG, HKG) LHR - Australasia (
50 RWA380 : The Middle East is considered the Asian continent, VS does not offer S. America yet. Caribbean is not a continent
51 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Indeed, which is why I said and New Zealand. Although technically isn't Zealandia a continental fragment which broke away from Australia when it in t
52 DLD9S : CUN is in Mexico in North America, and the city is on the Caribbean Sea.
53 stealthz : And that would be your mistake, ..Australia is a continent comprising the mainland of the country of Australia and proximate islands including Tasman
54 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Geologically no, but geopolitically... well again it depends on definition to be honest. Why do I treat Australasia as a continent - I was taught tha
55 Viscount724 : SU only served SYD very briefly, sometime in the 1990s I think. If memory correct it was very infrequent, no more than once a week, maybe only once e
56 mikey72 : Can I just ask why you feel the need to keep running down your 'own' country ? I notice you did it in another thread. Of course you are entitled to y
57 Post contains images aerokiwi : Aviation-wise, evidently the links with New Zealand aren't so important afterall. No "motherland" airlines flying, penalties for passengers who do tr
58 mikey72 : If Air New Zealand can't make money flying to the UK I'm not sure how you expect BA to ? There is a limit.....as you rightly point out. If privatisat
59 Post contains images B738FlyUIA : No! Yes, GIG is still in there winter season with CUN & VAR!! About SYD there is no info's or plans for the near future, but you never know what
60 aerokiwi : The off-topic point being... your original point that you felt warranted an entire post is specious.
61 mikey72 : specious...i had to look that one up.... apparently true, but actually false... which part was specious.......? that Air New Zealand don't make money
62 RWA380 : If NZ does not make any money flying to LHR, why have they been doing it so many years? In fact at one time via LAX & HKG, there had to be some p
63 mikey72 : I think there is a fundamental error at work here to be honest that should have been addressed. Any country has the right to be able to provide home
64 mikey72 : Would it be 'so' very unfair to say that EK for example cannot offer a lower fare than Air New Zealands' realistically lowest fare. A fare which still
65 qf002 : I am personally of the opinion that one company shouldn't be given any preference over another, but that goes the other way as well. If QF were able
66 UALWN : How can the geographical location of EK et al. be "unfair"? It does give them some advantage on some routes (not in the most lucrative route of them
67 LJ : Just out of curiosity (and a question for those arguing that French Polynesia and the other islands are not part of the continent Australia). If Frenc
68 RWA380 : There are six inhabited continents, Asia, Africa, Australia, South America, North American and Europe. Antartica is the 7th, these are places that do
69 mikey72 : That isn't what I said and therefore I will not respond to the rest of your post. What I am saying is..... Any carrier based in Australia for example
70 AM744 : Agreed, and when it comes to geology, Australia lies in its own tectonic plate, whereas Greenland is on the North American plate if I'm not mistaken.
71 UALWN : Isn't it? This is what you said: Really? Why? I don't get it. For instance, JK wasn't able to compete even in the BCN-PMI route against the likes of
72 Post contains links beertrucker : Map to help everyone. http://media.maps101.com/SUB/K_3/k3continents.gif
73 Post contains images BC77008 : 500 million years ago airlines did not have this question of prestige as there was only one continent!
74 mogandoCI : If only homo sapiens even existed back then to fly in them
75 mikey72 : If you want to maintain healthy competition on these routes then something like a minimum fare is the only way to ensure it. Otherwise Europe bound A
76 UALWN : Actually, the way to stimulate competition is exactly the opposite: liberalization like it happened in the US in the late 70s and in Europe in the la
77 NorthStarDC4M : le sigh... The debate about this to me seems rather moot... Geo-Physically there are FOUR continents: America, Eurasia-Africa, Australia, Antarctica G
78 mikey72 : Yes and bankruptcy which has lead to less choice and the present trend of fares rising again. Who will be 'allowed' to enter the market in those 'XXX
79 cmf : Problem with continents is that there is no one definition. When I grew up I was told there are 5 inhabited continents. North and South America was j
80 jamincan : Since people are pointing to geology as reasons for excluding New Zealand and French Polynesia from Australia, the consequence of this is that the six
81 mikey72 : Where are we going with this ? Plates ? What are you talking about ? Nazca, Scotia, Cocos, Antarctic etc etc Fine if you want to start talking about
82 UALWN : I guess you missed the irony in my comment...
83 mikey72 : I'm half American...I don't do irony.. Anyway...i'm sure KL is simply rejoicing at AF's losses or Swiss with LH's....?? it's the same thing... At lea
84 UALWN : I'm fully American (or so one of my passports says), yet I do irony...
85 Post contains images Truemanqld : Absolutely. I agree, but would go about it another way. I would introduce a similar system to that in Germany (I believe?) whereby the likes of EK/EY
86 UALWN : Really? Care to explain why? Then they should get out of the kangaroo route. Do QF and BA have a God-given right to fly between SYD and LHR profitabl
87 Truemanqld : Fairly sure I spent a whole post explaining why... No, but they sure as hell have more of a right to it than EK/EY/QR do[Edited 2012-06-12 03:34:42]
88 jamincan : I'm inclined to agree with you; my point is simply that when people start using geology as a criteria for determining the boundary of continents, the
89 cmf : Please expand. What are the factors out of their control?
90 Truemanqld : Much higher labour costs in Oz/Nz, in comparison to EK/SQ etc. Also, SQ (and others) have much better depreciation rates on their aircraft, allowing
91 mikey72 : Oh well now we're getting down to the nitty griity of it. A380 orders versus European landing rights.......European landing rights versus A380 orders
92 UALWN : Really? Why? None of these airlines has any God-given right to fly LHR-SYD profitably. But they all have the right to try it. EK has the right to fly
93 mikey72 : Well from what I have read I think changes are afoot. BA's and QF's relationship with two of the three big middle eastern carriers could be about to
94 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Which, even in tectonic terms, depending on the definition, it shares with New Zealand and India among others. Meanwhile much of the Russian Far East
95 cmf : I agree there are labor cost differences. What are the depreciation rates in the different jurisdictions? Note: Not what the airlines use but the min
96 Truemanqld : Well, QF generally hubs at SIN for EU flights. So they can take basically all of Australia and NZ market (and Singapore) for either SIN or LHR/FRA. C
97 PPVRA : IFRS calls for depreciation over the asset's useful life. There is no way in hell an aircraft will be fully depreciated in 3, 5 or even 10 years, exc
98 gemuser : SIN actually does NOT have a legal definition of depreciation! (See the SIN Tax Office web site, be warned it is as full of legalese as you'd expect!
99 Post contains links BLRAviation : International Financial Reporting Standards. It is an attempt to have a common definition of reporting financials across the globe. http://en.wikiped
100 gemuser : Thank you How widely are these standards accepted? Gemuser
101 Post contains images BLRAviation : My fellow A.netizens. Thanks for contributing to this thread. I started off this thread to discuss the importance of the "six continents club" and whe
102 Flyingsottsman : AF is not a 6 continent club because it does not fly to Australia, its comes here under the Qantas/Oneworld banner but its actural metal does not tou
103 Post contains links PPVRA : Keyword: TAX. Tax accounting and financial accounting are separate worlds. "Approximately 120 nations and reporting jurisdictions permit or require I
104 Viscount724 : No VS service to South America.
105 aviateur : Hey wait a minute, the "Six Continent Club" is a term that * I * coined in my column several years ago, describing those carriers that serve the six
106 Viscount724 : Six Continents Club was used for decades as the name of InterContinental Hotels loyalty program. I think it was the first of its type in the hotel in
107 Post contains images BLRAviation : Friends, I received this mail from Patrick Smith, and with due deference please give him credit to coining the phrase Six Continents Club. Can all of
108 Asiaflyer : You get the tax deduction earlier, which allows you to use the tax money in your business until you have to file the profit and pay back the over dep
109 BLRAviation : Yes!!! Correct. I still have the leather and steel/aluminium baggage tag from there. Whatever happened to that program?
110 aviateur : Thanks BLR. I had no idea that InterContinental used to use the same term, so I guess I was second in line, actually. Back in Soviet days, Aeroflot u
111 qf002 : Not if they weren't regular scheduled services... QF comes closest today with regular Antarctic Scenic flights, but those only fly over Antarctica ra
112 Post contains images mikey72 : I thought EK were A380 double daily to Antarctica ?
113 Post contains images BLRAviation : Yes I guess that would make them, though QF does do overflights today without actually landing. That's all ? I thought they were operating an hourly
114 Post contains images AirlineCritic : I'll go ahead and try some anyway. Apologies. People will have differing opinions on this, and that's fair. I'm personally of the opinion that we sho
115 mikey72 : Touche... 'but' unlike others EK are of no threat to our national carriers i.e BA and VS. Carriers like EK are not even present in the UK's most lucr
116 UALWN : Maybe. On the other hand, the people of Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, and Birmingham can avoid a bothersome stop in LHR and travel with only one st
117 Post contains images david_itl : Price comparison criteria LHR to SYD: fly out 7th October and return 20th October, 1 adult in Economy Class BA cheapest £556.00 EK cheapest £1105.1
118 Quokkas : Actually the stop in DXB is just as "bothersome" as the stop in SIN, KUL HKG or BKK. You get off a plane, go through security and wait around a bit,
119 mikey72 : No you mis-understand me...i'm just referring to routes that are avaiable from London non-stop. Luckily for BA and VS that's everywhere from London b
120 mikey72 : Again...i'm not referring to the Kangaroo route as both carriers involve a stop. LHR to JNB: fly out 7th October and return 20th October, 1 adult in
121 mikey72 : Yes they can but where else besides Oz and New Zealand can they travel on EK with less stops than BA from MAN, NCL, GLA ? People from MAN, NCL, and G
122 mikey72 : In actual fact your argument can be squished thus....(so lets put this to bed once and for all) Below is a list of airlines currently operating from
123 david_itl : So in that list, you've got 5 destinations , and included BD when they've been bought by BA and listing the BMI Regional ops for BD as a separate ent
124 UALWN : Look, you turned this thread from a discussion about continents to a discussion about LHR-SYD, how crucial it is for BA and QF to be able to compete
125 aviateur : Funny that Lufthansa isn't on the list. And even Air France is stretching it, with PPT. For a while Malaysia Airlines was a SCC member. Are they no lo
126 Viscount724 : AF was on the list until, like many other European carriers, they dropped service to Australia some years ago. KL and AZ would also have been on the
127 mikey72 : How can you not talk about LHR-SYD when discussing the six continents club ? Of the hundreds of airlines in the world the handful that are in the six
128 UALWN : And so you can. Other people, however, may prefer the comfort of SQ, or the price of EK. To each its own, right?
129 mikey72 : As long as that choice remains then great. As for SQ...their yields are going down the toilet too. As for EK it's interesting that their fares are ch
130 UALWN : So all is well! What's not to like about this state of affaires?
131 as739x : PPT counts as Australia...LOL right!!
132 tpaewr : Reading this made me think CO "joined the club" at the very end, just before the merger with IAH-LOS. What other airlines are "former members"?
133 mikey72 : Lol, you forgot to include....
134 rwy04lga : AustralASIA. Still isn't on a continent.
135 Viscount724 : JL once served CAI and GRU. Not sure if they were serving those points simultaneously, but if so they would have been a 6 Continents carrier. KE drop
136 Post contains images BLRAviation : Quite true. The trans-atlantic market is pretty much sown up by the Europeans and North American carriers. In that regard I have noticed that nationa
137 mikey72 : Well eastern carriers have always set the bar pretty high it's just in their culture BUT people don't exactly 'slum it' in the premuim cabins of say
138 Post contains images BLRAviation : Pardon me for interjecting. One of the questions I posed when I started the thread was, in today's world of global alliances, what would be the drivi
139 Post contains images BLRAviation : Fantastic post. The whole post makes a lot of sense. And most of all, I love the common sense you have posted. I too always advocate, you get what yo
140 mikey72 : Yes but in the nicest possible way aren't you missing the point ? What exactly would EK bring to the table if they didn't offer a few extra frills ?
141 BLRAviation : That does tie back to my original question of the reason of being in the SCC in the age of alliances. So true. Airline mileage and status is one of t
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