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LAS New Terminal 3 - Observations From The Preview  
User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1977 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

I went to the open house LAS had for the new Terminal 3. First of all, it was crowded in there. I think Clark County DOA had no idea how many people would show up. The latest estimate I saw was about 15,000 people. When I left it took me 40 minutes to get out of the parking garage. Over all, it is a very functional airport. Not a lot on style, very sterile. I don't have a problem with that though as I think too much has been spent on the artistic side of new terminals and terminal renovations lately. Airports are there to serve the community, not to be a function of art. Now I get the idea it is the first impression of the city but clearly with Terminal 3 it was understood that with the architecture we have here in Vegas there was nothing the airport could do to trump that. It was clearly designed to get you in, get you into a cab and over to the casinos.

As someone who has lived in RSW and IND and used both of those airports extensively since the new terminals opened there I can see elements of both of them in the new design. Then again, I suppose there are only so many designers that design terminals. T-3 uses the same split level/ tri-level design that was used in IND to bring people over form the parking garage on an elevated walkway then lead them to a tri-level between the first and second floors. Now one thing that was worked into RSW's design that I think the designers of T-3 missed was more sunlight. Part of the sterile feeling is because I feel there are a lack of windows in the terminal. Now I get that it's all about being efficient and green and putting skylights in could cause the air conditioning bill to go up... but I think a handful of skylights on the airside/ sterile/ gate area would do wonders to make it feel more open and inviting. The way it is designed now it feels like the roof is coming down on you, like the old terminal's that were built in the 60's and 70's. Not skylights all the way across like RSW but a few would help.

I found the roadways leading in to the garage and all around the terminal to be confusing and poorly marked. But that is a compliant I have had about LAS even when I used to come here on business before I moved here. I am really hoping they are going to put some more signage up before it opens because even with all of the cones out to direct you to parking this morning I still almost ended up on he wrong ramp twice. One element of the road design I liked though is if you are going from T-3 to the southbound connector tunnel. You are bee bopping along at 50 on the roadway that leads you from the terminal and parking garages to the tunnel and then all of the sudden there is a stop light. At first it didn't make sense, then I realized that may help discourage some of the cabbies from long driving customers (which the cabbies in this town are notorious for). I doubt that is why it was created that way but still, it helps.

There were plenty of concession choices once you are airside. I heard several people talking about how excited they are to have a Pei Wei in there. I was happy to hear that as one of my friends has been hired to be a Wok cook for the Pei Wei.

I shot several videos on my iPhone while there and have posted them on my YouTube page. I was trying to not draw attention to myself while shooting them. Enjoy:


International Check In Area
http://youtu.be/Zmr1CjG02bA

Domestic Check In Area
http://youtu.be/y-px0l8yuLY

International Baggage Claim, Customs and Domestic Connection Baggage Recheck point
http://youtu.be/NMAQ2wAqi3g

Domestic Gates
http://youtu.be/3cIQkGsabHk

International Gates
http://youtu.be/26qbP82KujY

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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5959 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month ago) and read 4957 times:

Overall, it looks nice---although, more than likely, I'll never set foot in that terminal.

Quoting LV (Thread starter):
I shot several videos on my iPhone while there and have posted them on my YouTube page. I was trying to not draw attention to myself while shooting them.

And that would explain why watching the videos gave me motion sickness...



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User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Interesting video of the check in area with all airlines logos sideways regardless of logo alignment. It looks like no one asked any carrier if they had a vertical version for a banner. Hopefully carriers will begin to notice and have it fixed.

User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4004 times:
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Quoting LV (Thread starter):
Now I get that it's all about being efficient and green and putting skylights in could cause the air conditioning bill to go up... but I think a handful of skylights on the airside/ sterile/ gate area would do wonders to make it feel more open and inviting. The way it is designed now it feels like the roof is coming down on you, like the old terminal's that were built in the 60's and 70's. Not skylights all the way across like RSW but a few would help.

It does have clerestory windows in the gate area, as shown in your video and in the picture in the article below. The only reason for those windows to be so high up is to let sunlight in.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...ccarrans-terminal-3-model-gateway/

Quoting flyingcaT (Reply 2):
Interesting video of the check in area with all airlines logos sideways regardless of logo alignment. It looks like no one asked any carrier if they had a vertical version for a banner. Hopefully carriers will begin to notice and have it fixed.

I've never seen an airline put their name, using their type font, in a vertical arrangement like the screen. The norm for a vertical arrangement is to have the airline logo with the airline name horizontally below the logo. I have a feeling that the signs are in that orientation to create higher visibility for the location of each airline's check-in area.


User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 689 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Quoting flyingcaT (Reply 2):
Interesting video of the check in area with all airlines logos sideways regardless of logo alignment. It looks like no one asked any carrier if they had a vertical version for a banner. Hopefully carriers will begin to notice and have it fixed.



Yeah, that's...really weird.

I also think it's pretty impractical. When passengers come in and are looking for their airline's check-in area, who is going to think to look up the wall for an airline logo? Since they're not 3-D and flush with the wall, I would imagine they would also be hard to see if you're looking all the way down the concourse unless passengers walk all the way to the fall side where the escalators are and then walk back.

Maybe once the airlines add some stanchions, bag sizers, and other paraphernalia it'll help, but for now, it's just weird.



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User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 weeks ago) and read 3499 times:

Quoting LV (Thread starter):
Part of the sterile feeling is because I feel there are a lack of windows in the terminal.

I think we were at different T3 at LAS. Terminal is full of light with HUGE windows overlooking UA/AS/B6 gates.


User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 weeks ago) and read 3420 times:

Quoting dcaviation (Reply 5):
I think we were at different T3 at LAS. Terminal is full of light with HUGE windows overlooking UA/AS/B6 gates.

Small error UA will be moving check in to T3 but will continue to remain in D.


User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting flyingcaT (Reply 6):
Small error UA will be moving check in to T3 but will continue to remain in D.

I don't know what this has to do with my text?
In case you are referring that I'm implying that UA will serve in new terminal, no. I was saying that from the new terminal you have clear view through the windows on current UA/CO/B6/AS gates.
Here is the picture I took from gate E8 about month or so ago.




User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1977 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

I need to apologize as I am going to have to remove the videos from YouTube. Thank you to everyone who watched and enjoyed them and I am sorry that politics are going to force me to take them out of the public arena.

User currently offlinelasbagman From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2538 times:

I will be working in the new Terminal 3 .

My concerns as an employee|:

1. The baggage carousels in us customs are too small, they cannot handle a fully loaded virgin flight from the uk.
Bags will be flying off the carousel.

2. Signage over the counters are vertical and not easily seen. Check in counters are recessed and the u shape of the counter can cause agents to slam in to each other when dropping bags on the belt.

3. Not enough pre security eating areas for people waiting for flight arrivals.

4. Confusing roadways and signage . I have been practicing driving in to the terminal and I can see accidents galore.

5. CBP told me they are not adding officers or staff and with the new airlines coming to LAS , queues will still be very long, even though they have alot more booths, the staff levels will be the same as the old terminal 2. The airport keeps advertising increased processing, but this simply will not happen , this year at least .

The bag rooms have a design flaw that cannot be fixed. The ceiling is too low. Philippine Airlines containers cannot fit in the bag room and Hawaiian containers only have 1 inch clearance. McCarran was measuring the containers last week!!
You think this would have been done 5 years ago. Then again none of the airlines were consulted on the design or concerns addressed.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2481 times:

Quoting LV (Thread starter):
There were plenty of concession choices once you are airside. I heard several people talking about how excited they are to have a Pei Wei in there. I was happy to hear that as one of my friends has been hired to be a Wok cook for the Pei Wei.

I'd give my left nut for someone to put an In-N-Out Burger SOMEWHERE inside a terminal at LAS!


User currently offlinedcaviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2376 times:

Quoting lasbagman (Reply 9):
The bag rooms have a design flaw that cannot be fixed

Not only that location has design flaw. I wont say what else, but if you look, you can easily see the other design flaw in the terminal.


User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Quoting lasbagman (Reply 9):
3. Not enough pre security eating areas for people waiting for flight arrivals.

Very few airports accommodate this now. T2 in SFO built a Starbucks pre security and that is it.


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