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Small Market Transatlantic - Summer 2012

ghYHZ From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 200 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10020 times:

Here’s some Small Market transatlantic services for Summer ’12 from these Canadian airports:

Any others?........and what Small Market US cities have transatlantic service?

YHZ (Halifax)
YHZ-LHR Air Canada 767 Daily
YHZ-FRA Condor 3/week
YHZ-KEF Icelandair 3/week
YHZ-LGW AirTransat 1/week

YYT (St. John’s (Torbay)
YYT-LHR Air Canada A319 Daily

YQB (Quebec City)
YQB-CDG AirTransat 4/week
YQB-MRS Air Transat 1/week

YXY (Whitehorse, Yukon)
YXY-FRA Condor 1/week

[Edited 2012-06-10 05:15:11]

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:

flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6289 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9585 times:

Well there is AA with RDU-LHR
DL CVG-CDG
AB with RSW-DUS
DL SLC-CDG
Not exactly that small of a market but there is PDX-AMS on DL too.

"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)

jonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

MIA-LIS is only around 45 PDEW.... ( I think, it was a low number that's all I remember)

MIA. FLL.

YXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9461 times:

YEG (Edmonton)
YEG-LHR Air Canada 767 Daily
YEG-LGW Transat 330 1/week

Radial engines don't leak oil, they are just marking their territory!

sanjet From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9376 times:

I believe
YOW-LGW - Air Transat A310 1/week

Will Fly For Food!

by738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9224 times:

Think there would still be demand for the seasonal return of GLA-YHZ and GLA-YOW

LIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9211 times:

YYZ-SUF 1xw Air Transat

Icarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8915 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
DL SLC-CDG

Isn't this route year round?

Flying is amazing!

runway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2037 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8723 times:

Quoting sanjet (Reply 4):
I believe
YOW-LGW - Air Transat A310 1/week

Daily YOW-LHR and YOW-FRA on AC are not to be forgotten either.

realsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

JFK-VLC and JFK-AGP by DL.

flyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1617 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8631 times:

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 7):
Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
DL SLC-CDG

Isn't this route year round?

I believe so, but it goes down to 4x weekly in the winter.

In addition to the ones already mentioned, there's also PIT-CDG on DL and the transatlantic routes ex-CLT.

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8555 times:

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 3):
YEG (Edmonton)
YEG-LHR Air Canada 767 Daily
YEG-LGW Transat 330 1/week

Quoting runway23 (Reply 8):
Daily LHR and FRA on AC are not to be forgotten either.

I wouldn't consider YEG and YOW as small markets. YEG has had direct service to Europe for more than half a century.

[Edited 2012-06-10 11:33:19]

PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4954 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8435 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 10):
Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 7):
Quoting flymia (Reply 1):
DL SLC-CDG

Isn't this route year round?

I believe so, but it goes down to 4x weekly in the winter.

In addition to the ones already mentioned, there's also PIT-CDG on DL and the transatlantic routes ex-CLT.

Same with DL44, CVG-CDG

頑張ろう日本!

brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7946 times:

Didn't YHM once have direct flights to GLA?

Rush for ever; Yankees all the way!!

CoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 2):
MIA-LIS is only around 45 PDEW.... ( I think, it was a low number that's all I remember)

I don't understand what that means. Sorry. BTW, I did fly TAP MIA-LIS-FCO and the flight loads in October were low.

jonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7620 times:

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 14):

Somebody posted on this forum that the Miami-Lisbon market is only around 45 Passengers Daily Each Way (PDEW). Making it a small market. PDEW only shows passengers originating from once city to the other and vice versa. It does nt reflect loads, TP makes the market work with their great connections to Spain, Italy and the rest of Europe. Also even though the market is small it's average fare is pretty high.

MIA. FLL.

santos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7511 times:

TP OPO-EWR 3/4 Weekly
S4 LIS-YYZ
S4 PDL - YYZ
S4 PDL - BOS
S4 PDL-OAK
S4 YUL - PDL - LIS
Sunwing YYZ- LIS
Sunwing YYZ-OPO
US PHL - LIS
TS FAO - YYZ

Lots of there route are seasonal, but being operated this summer

BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2300 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7511 times:

Interesting thread. I'm always intrigued by this. I think the OP is thinking of routes that aren't, say, JFK-LHR.

I'll take a stab at it, including some that were posted already. So does this include small markets on either side of the Atlantic?

PDX-AMS
SEA-KEF
SAN-LHR
SLC-CDG
RDU-LHR
CVG-CDG
MEM-AMS
PIT-CDG
CLE-CDG (when it existed)
BDL-AMS (when it existed)

There are numerous smaller market routes served from JFK and EWR on 757s such as the previously mentioned JFK-VLC and JFK-AGP.

by738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6637 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 13):
Didn't YHM once have direct flights to GLA?

Yes on the ill fated maintenance riddled GSM 757's and 767's. They stopped when Globespan when belly up.

southwest737500 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

CLT-DUB. Operates form May - September
CLT-MAD Operates from May- October

Planes I've been on: Dash8,CRJ 200,CRJ 700,CRJ 900,ERJ 175, ERJ 190, 717,732,733,734,735,737,738.A319,A320,A321,762,763

flylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6022 times:

Quoting sanjet (Reply 4):
YOW-LGW - Air Transat A310 1/week

Interesting that the capitals of these two countries are served only once a week. But then I should not be surprised. Back in the early 90s I had to go DCA-YOW and had to stop somewhere along the way (Syracuse ?) . Now there are several AC and UA flights each day from DCA and IAD.

...are we there yet?

matt From Canada, joined May 1999, 679 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

I remember a few years ago when we had YQM-ORY on SS (A330-200 and even 747-400!). I don't know if we'll ever see that again...

We also had YQM-HAJ on Condor (757-300).

Matt

[Edited 2012-06-10 15:19:53]

Next flights: YHZ-HOG / HOG-YHZ / YQM-YUL-YQB / YQB-YOW-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-YVR-YYJ / SEA-YYZ-YQM

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Quoting flylku (Reply 20):
Quoting sanjet (Reply 4):
YOW-LGW - Air Transat A310 1/week

Interesting that the capitals of these two countries are served only once a week.

That's only Air Transat. AC has daily nonstop YOW-LHR 763 service. Also daily YOW-FRA.

ghYHZ From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

Quoting ghYHZ (Thread starter):

YYT (St. John’s (Torbay)
YYT-LHR Air Canada A319 Daily

Besides that Air Canada Transatlantic A319 we now have between St. John’s and Heathrow .......Newfoundland had a couple of other interesting routes:

Around 2005-07, a weekly Astraeus 73G LGW-YDF (Deer Lake)......a small town with a population of 5,000 in western Newfoundland and I believe Monarch also did this route for awhile along with LGW-YYT.

http://www.deerlakeairport.com/index.html

(Deer Lake provided access to the Humber Valley Resort and the Gros Morne World Heritage Site)

[Edited 2012-06-10 16:58:00]

atct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2035 posts, RR: 41
Reply 24, posted (11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4926 times:

ANC-FRA Condor 767-300 4x weekly.

ATCT

Real pilots fly planes that take and measure oil in gallons

25 Condor24: YUL - BOD ( 2 per week) with Air Transat (Montreal to Bordeaux)

26 theobcman: With cheap fares LGW-YTO-LGW at £298 TS is tempting just for the A310 !

27 brilondon: Think tiny.

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