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LH 747-8i Y Class Seat Width 20.07 Inches?  
User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 829 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15925 times:

I noticed on SeatGuru that the seat width in Y on the LH 747-8i is 20.07 inches. Their other 747s are in line with other airlines with a seat width of 17.5 inches. Their 747-400s are 3x4x3 as are their 747-8is. The Boeing site shows the cabin interior width for the 747-400 as 20 feet and 20.1 feet for the 747-8i. So, the question is two fold: is 20.07 inches accurate, and if so, how did Lufthansa pull this off?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31418 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15758 times:
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It is a mistake on the part of SeatGuru. (All the carriers I can think of) only fit 2+3+2 on the main deck of a 747 with 20" seat cushion widths.

(Edited for clarity and correction)

[Edited 2012-06-10 10:41:54]

User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15633 times:

This is a mistake. How can an economy class seat be 20 ins wide when business class seats (eg BA's Club World seating) is also 20 ins wide ?

User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1900 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15528 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
It is a mistake on the part of SeatGuru. You can only fit 2+3+2 on the main deck of a 747 with 20" seat cushion widths.

How would adding 2.5" a seat make the cabin 3 seats narrower? For 7 seats that's only an extra 17.5".



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31418 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15444 times:
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Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 3):
How would adding 2.5" a seat make the cabin 3 seats narrower?

Yes, you can do 2+4+2 with 20" seats (armrest to armrest) with a 21" aisle per the Boeing ACAP. And some Business Class products (like BA Club World and UA Global Business) do 2+4+2 (though perhaps with narrower aisles).

Back when it was just seats in a row, I'm only aware of it being 2+3+2 for Business Class on the main deck with a 20-21" seat and 24" aisles (sans TWA, which went 2+2+2 with ~32" aisles).

[Edited 2012-06-10 10:40:16]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15090 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
It is a mistake on the part of SeatGuru. (All the carriers I can think of) only fit 2+3+2 on the main deck of a 747 with 20" seat cushion widths.

SeatGuru information on seat width is best ignored. It's full of inaccurate and inconsistent information. Seat widths are measured different ways by various carriers and seat manufacturers. For example, does the seat width include only the cushion or also the width of the armrests and the gap between the seat cushions?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31418 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15090 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
SeatGuru information on seat width is best ignored. It's full of inaccurate and inconsistent information.

Well it's not all bogus, as I do take a tape measure with me for the flights I am on so I stand by the data I submit.  

(That being said, I only fly Star Alliance and AS).


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5157 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13458 times:

I often correct Seat Guru on inaccuracies of some Air Canada seat charts. To date, they have all been ignored, making a lot of he AC seat charts inaccurate.

This being the case, I have to assume most of what is on Seat Guru is inaccurate.



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User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11914 times:

Thanks all. I figured it was too good to be true.


...are we there yet?
User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10672 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
Seat widths are measured different ways by various carriers and seat manufacturers. For example, does the seat width include only the cushion or also the width of the armrests and the gap between the seat cushions?

I assume it's whatever isn't under the armrest..



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10390 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 7):
This being the case, I have to assume most of what is on Seat Guru is inaccurate.

It is largely inaccurate, sadly. It started out as a GREAT website, but clearly has devolved into them cutting and pasting recommendations based on any seat that is within "X" inches of a lavatory door, etc.
There's virtually no useful information on the site anymore at all- the only things they tell you are which seats are close to lavs or galleys, which any idiot can figure out on their own.
Their one golden goose was previously information about which rows have BLOCKED/PLUGGED windows. But even this information is no longer accurate.


User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10280 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 7):
I often correct Seat Guru on inaccuracies of some Air Canada seat charts. To date, they have all been ignored, making a lot of he AC seat charts inaccurate.


I too have submitted information (on several occasions), received a notification that my observation was noted -- and nothing more -- no change to anything!

Last time I looked (1 minute ago!!) they still showed DL's A320's with 16 in F! (amongst many other things, such as the layout for the MD-90's with 12 seats in F, yet the summary at the top states 16 in F!).



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10187 times:

SeatGuru absolutely does not care about feedback from flyers. They also make comments about seats based purely on the seatmap, not on actual experience.


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User currently offlinebraynfeeble From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4228 times:

LH website indicates:
"On long-haul routes a seat cushion width of over 40 cm, as well as the individually adjustable headrests on every seat, ensure your comfort."
40 cm = 15.7" !



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