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Comac C919 And Boeing Commercial  
User currently offlineolympic472 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 456 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3838 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...rience-in-battle-with-c919-372851/

In the article, is it just Sales and Marketing talk or does Boeing have a product that competes with the C919?

An interesting quote: "We build aircraft the customers want. We don't build it, then sell it - we sell it, then build it."


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

This is just the start of Boeing's harder future in NBs, they are used to fight Airbus and nothing more. The coming 10 years will be exciting to study, new players in the duopoly market. Will the old giants have to kick up a few gears?

User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3285 times:
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I'm curious to see what MOL will do with the C919.... maybe we'll see some also in Europe???? Time will tell about MOL thoughts...

User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2990 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2813 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 1):
This is just the start of Boeing's harder future in NBs, they are used to fight Airbus and nothing more. The coming 10 years will be exciting to study, new players in the duopoly market. Will the old giants have to kick up a few gears?

Well... the 100-150 seat market is going to be very crowded by 2018:
C-Series
Comac ARJ-21 and C9x9
MRJ
SSJ
A319neo
737-7MAX
EMB-190/195

But remember Boeing has been here before...
When the 737 was launched it was up against the Caravelle, BAC 1-11 and DC-9, not to mention Boeing's own 727-100 and turboprop types like the L-188 and Viscount that were still the shorthaul backbone of many airlines. I have a feeling that the 2 of the "new" manufacturers are going to be losers, just a question of which 2 and how much of the market is going to move to Regional operators in North America and Europe.



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User currently onlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2655 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 3):
I have a feeling that the 2 of the "new" manufacturers are going to be losers, just a question of which 2 and how much of the market is going to move to Regional operators in North America and Europe.

A & B are no brainers in the success path.
BD & EMB are both established in the market and should pass.
So the bottom 3 are the "new" players from the east and near-east.
Comac might or might not land any major export customer but it will sell many frames in the world's second largest economy; if simply by the "official persuasion" factor.
SSJ, with Boeing support, would appear to be in a good position but the recent crash though extremely likely not the fault of the plane nevertheless is a negative factor.
MRJ would seem the weakest of them all.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30528 posts, RR: 84
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2623 times:
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Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
In the article, is it just Sales and Marketing talk or does Boeing have a product that competes with the C919?

Yes, it is called the 737 Next Generation. To date, it's recorded 570 sales to Chinese carriers.


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6812 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

There are two things that a newcomer must establish very quickly in the airliner market, at least among Western carriers, and those are support and safety (assuming that their product is economically competitive). Low price alone will not sell airliners if they consume more fuel per passenger, if they do not have competitive dispatch reliability, or if they are perceived as less safe. And if it were easy to achieve all of these there would be more than two players in the game. I am not saying that Comac cannot do it, but it will take time for them to do so.


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User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1622 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Correct me if I am wrong. But I thought BBD and Comac are sharing development technologies for the development of their NG NB aircraft. There is still room for a CS500 just under the C919, it'll be interesting if that comes to fruition. If things fall into place, there would be a range of complementing aircraft that ranges the 100 -190 range.


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