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MAN News 46  
User currently offlineBoeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1164 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20533 times:

I wanted to post in the MAN 45 thread, but due to inactivity it's been archived, so I thought I'd start a new thread...

My parents flew on LS875 to FAO this morning and after getting off the phone to them a while ago they told me that they were delayed by over an hour and from what I hear it wasn't a Jet2 aircraft. I understand Jet2 has/had a Strategic A320 (reg LX-STA) on lease based at MAN for the summer. Can someone please confirm whether this was the aircraft on that flight or something else, and if so whether it's allocated to LS875/876 or whether it was stepped up to do that due to the original aircraft going tech?

Thanks!

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User currently offlinefaddypainter From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20437 times:

Today LS875 was operated by EC-ISY according to logs. I assume it is based there on ACMI lease for Jet2, but I don't know for sure I don't live up that neck of the woods.  
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User currently offlinethegregster From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 20261 times:

Its was EC-ISY positioning in from MAD this morning but didnt get to MAN till about 0800am therefore delaying the FAO.

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 20179 times:
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News for next year - TK going to 2 daily and are talking 3 daily thereafter. Current target for the year is 200,000 pax

User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 20142 times:

I'm not sure whether it's too early to ask this but will DL plan to resume JFK-MAN in 2013?

[Edited 2012-06-11 12:44:32]

User currently offlineAnt72LBA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 20051 times:

AF 72 - CDG To LAX diverted in this afternoon (separate thread on it) - anyone know why it came into MAN as it was a long way north when it turned round?

User currently offlineBoeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 19971 times:

Quoting faddypainter (Reply 1):
Quoting thegregster (Reply 2):

All seems to make sense now - thank you both for the info.    I take it then that the positioning flight from MAD was for it to commence its lease to Jet2 on selected MAN flights?


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 19897 times:
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Quoting Ant72LBA (Reply 5):
anyone know why it came into MAN as it was a long way north when it turned round?

Medical diversion. Helps having Wythenshawe Hospital nearby.


MAN pax numbers fell slighly last month - probably due only 1 bank holiday, June's figure may compensate having had a double bank holiday plus what appread to be a delayed half-term holiday for schools going off the lack of traffic last week. The moving annual total figures show roughly 5% growth and not 5% fall as they've published.


User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 19336 times:

May 2012 Provisional stats out:

Main ones:

Brussels -7%
Copenhagen -1%
Helsinki -21%
Paris CDG +4%
Dusseldorf -2%
Frankfurt -17%
Munich -1%
Dublin -7%
Milan MXP +17% Not bad considering FR's entry onto Bergamo
Amsterdam +1%
Lisbon +75%
Barcelona +29%
Madrid +131%
Stockholm +1%
Oslo +76%
Geneva +6%
Zurich -33%
Istanbul +37%
Doha +29%
Abu Dhabi +46%
Dubai -14%
Islamabad -22%
Singapore Flat
Atlanta -1%
Chicago +5%
New York JFK - 31%
Newark -48%
Philadelphia -5%
Gatwick -22%
Heathrow +10%
Aberdeen +34%
Belfast City -13%
Glasgow +5%
Edinburgh -9%
Southampton +6%



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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 19214 times:

As well as starting MAN-ARN, Norwegian will be adding a 4th weekly flight on MAN-OSL from the winter timetable.


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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 18711 times:

Iberia/Air Nostrum ending MAN-MAD services in September.


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User currently offlinelisbonbearuk From Portugal, joined Jan 2010, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 18433 times:

That has to be IB's final attempt at that route, surely?

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 18378 times:
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also appear to be losiing U2 to MAD as well.

Quoting lisbonbearuk (Reply 11):
That has to be IB's final attempt at that route, surely?

Barely advertised so it's not really in the public knowledge. May be better suited for Iberia Express


User currently offlinedeltapapa From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 18364 times:

Surely MAN - MAD would be a route better suited for Flybe E170 with BA/IB codeshare!

User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 18228 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 12):
also appear to be losiing U2 to MAD as well.

Also not showing with FR past the 2nd November!

Surely MAN can't lose 3 carriers on the same route?


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 18202 times:
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Quite why MAN didn't try to advise that if all 3 services ran at the same time at the same time of day then no-one would be happy I don't understand. There are appears to be enough of a market there for 1 airline to make go of it. Heard about the U2 service going a few days ago but when you look at the 1-way prices for MAD and HAM then there's no comparison. MAD prices are a lot higher than the HAM ones so unless they've managed to get a load of walk-on fares and corporate business to make the HAM route worthwhile, then i wonder why that route is not going instead. And before anyone says anything, I know that looking at the lead-in prices means nothing to the bean-counters but for a layman, it's a nice indication of how popular a route is.

User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 18174 times:

It may just be that this is just a 'let's see what the competition are planning before we commit' moment. All three must be aware that they're together not particularly viable.

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 17827 times:
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Replacement airline for GOT in place  

Sun Air beginning 5 weekly GOT-MAN from 27th August looking on Amadeus.net. Flight numbers BA8231/8232, arrives 0900 departs 0930


User currently offlineboysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 17574 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 15):
Quite why MAN didn't try to advise that if all 3 services ran at the same time at the same time of day then no-one would be happy I don't understand.

Well I don't think it's MAN's place to give such commercial advice! Surely the airlines own marketing and research departments should have to come to this conclusion. I understand IB going for the route due to the IAG/BA link, and I can then understand one LCC trying, but whichever LCC announed the start up second is quite clearly nuts.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 16927 times:
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Quoting david_itl (Reply 17):
Sun Air beginning 5 weekly GOT-MAN from 27th August

Now public on their website as 11 weekly AAR-GOT-MAN


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 16580 times:
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End of the BD code to/from LHR today.

Last arrival of BD from LHR:
BD596 London Heathrow Estimated 23:00

First arrival using the new BA flight number
BA8100 London Heathrow Estimated 08:50


Missed the last BD departure  

First depature in new BA flight number
BA8119 London Heathrow Scheduled 09:50


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 16421 times:
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Finally found something coming out of MAN regarding the forthcoming white paper on Aviation Policy Manchester Evening News article.

Chief Exec Charlie Cornish:

"We have scope to grow and we want Manchester to be seen as the key northern gateway hub. We don't want Manchester to be lost in the discussion and want a level playing field – we have an absolutely key role to play. We want to attract more long-haul passengers and are quite confident we will continue to develop".

What could be a possible help to furter long-haul growth may be a rising of APD for those passengers using LHR/LGW and a reduction for those outside the London area so that there is scope for some claw back of passengers form the regions who are inclined to only think of LHR/LGW for their travel needs, and a better marketing campaign i.e unlike the woeful lack of promotion for the soon-to-be-culled IB service. Perhaps using advertising boards dotted around LHR/LGW may be a start?


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 16373 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 21):
"We have scope to grow and we want Manchester to be seen as the key northern gateway hub. We don't want Manchester to be lost in the discussion and want a level playing field – we have an absolutely key role to play. We want to attract more long-haul passengers and are quite confident we will continue to develop".

Agree absolutely, MAN is not jusy another airport, it is a massively strategic piece of infrastructure that does well but could do better of treated properly. I say that as a firm supporter of LHR as the UK's main hub, recognising that we should have primary and secondary airports, local and strategic if you will. I also don't think differential APD is in any way a good idea as parts of the UK are subsidised quite well enough thank you and it will actually mean EZY and FR being subsidised by minimum wage taxpayers trying to get by in the overpriced South East. Utterly brain dead IMHO.


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 16262 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 22):
I say that as a firm supporter of LHR as the UK's main hub, recognising that we should have primary and secondary airports, local and strategic if you will.

Official status of any given airport is an irrelevance. It may well be the South East's main hub, but it certainly isn't to the thousands of Glaswegians transferring at DXB, EWR or AMS. Similarly to those travelling in the other direction.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 22):
I also don't think differential APD is in any way a good idea as parts of the UK are subsidised quite well enough thank you

Can you quantify this?

Quote:
and it will actually mean EZY and FR being subsidised by minimum wage taxpayers trying to get by in the overpriced South East.

Direct taxation is a subsidy? It's starting to become clear that in a country with such vastly different levels of regional GDP, a ''one size fits all'' taxation system is going to be detrimental to the poorest region's ability to increase their contribution to the national pot, if you like. The gap isn't closing as it was supposed to, it's getting wider.

There's already consideration being given to differing regional pay levels, and also latterly regional benefits levels, so it follows that taxation should also be treated in exactly the same way.


User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 16231 times:

Anything interesting due at MAN this upcoming saturday?


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25 blueshamu330s : TP MAN-LIS going daily from October 28th. Even better news, they plan to add more frequencies next summer. Great success story for a route which has p
26 skipness1E : You would doubtless hope that many from Leeds and Liverpool would use MAN though? There is no "official" status, my main point is that in supporting
27 liverpoola380 : It has just been announce that MAN will see an increase in 1 daily flight when then new BA schedule comes into effect in October following on from the
28 rutankrd : Thats actually DECEASE of three slots transferred over the Pennines ! Skip this is flatly offensive - Engineering and manufacturing (Neither skills e
29 mutu : Is it? remember this is the launch of W12 schedule, so how does it compare to W11 combined BA/BD? That might be more meaningful? Although for sure LB
30 rutankrd : Yes combined decrease of three slots on winter 2011/12 That said if all operated with A32x might be still be a capacity rise.
31 david_itl : The June stats are out and show a nice increase of 6.68% to over 2 million pax for the month. With the shifting a May bank holiday into June,and small
32 boysteve : Anyone know the reason for the extended stay of todays EK A388? It was A6-EDD today. It arrived bang on time at 12:24pm but did not leave until after
33 BlueShamu330s : It's reassuring to see such healthy stats for Manchester; a shining star amongst a rather lamentable collection otherwise. It does beg the question: H
34 rutankrd : Part A - not quite -still 2 million light ! Part B- Yes Regards
35 GT4EZY : In part that is a fair assumption but you can't discount the fact that MAN has always done well at attracting a wide portfolio of airlines. The only
36 LN-KGL : Let's rather say 3.16 million passengers light - the year rolling terminal passenger number was at the end of June 19,283,334 and the all time high i
37 Post contains images vegetables2001 : A bit like your whole post I'm afraid. All airlines are free to use the regional airport with the reduced APD if they choose not just FR and EZY it's
38 boysteve : I see EK's DXB-JFK A388 diverted in about 14:30. It was over Southern Norway when it changed course to head for MAN. Anyone got the full story?
39 LuftyMatt : It's a medical diversion. I'm not sure if it's flying out today though. It looked abandoned out on remote, like it was there for a long stay. Maybe c
40 goosebayguy : 380 A6-EDD has just deprated MAN headed for JFK.
41 mhodgson : Because the A380 stand was occupied by the DXB flight upon the diversions arrival
42 LuftyMatt : I mean it was just on stand on it's own, no ground equipment or vehicles around it.
43 david_itl : Couple of 744 interesting passenger movements of note today and tomorrow GTI8996 arrives today (should be around at 1320) and departs at 0900 to Durba
44 boysteve : Whn is there a QF B744 at MAN?
45 goosebayguy : It was in for maintenance left last week I believe.
46 david_itl : QF brought in a religious group - aircraft went to CWL and LYS. It's now back in and should be departing on the 30th. At the moement we have the Gover
47 boysteve : well it (or another bird) was at MAN at 5pm this afternoon
48 Post contains links Daleaholic : Here's the religious group that the QF 744 brought in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Brethren
49 boysteve : LH FRA-DUB diverting to MAN, its just landed actually saw it on final approach. It made it all the way from FRA to just North of Anglesey where it cir
50 GT4EZY : Unless the crew decided it was better to deal with the problem over land instead of out over the sea or simply because MAN already handles LH which m
51 david_itl : Meant to be due to a problem with an AA 757 at DUB. EI407 has also ended up here.
52 GT4EZY : What equipment will DL be using MAN-ATL this Winter? 763 or 764?
53 Jetset7E7 : 767-300, heard its dropping down to 6 x weekly Mark
54 GT4EZY : Cheers Mark. Think I might go LH/LX instead then.
55 danfearn77 : Better than the winter just gone if thats true, it was 5 weekly throughout Winter 11-12.
56 mainMAN : Better than being pulled altogether, they don't hesitate these days!
57 Daleaholic : Can anybody shed some light on the 2 recent visits of the AN124...? Just seen it arrive but never been around for the departure. Cheers
58 cipango : Anyone know why the EK 18 flight was a 77W yesterday? A380 wing crack repairs?
59 danfearn77 : Seems a combination of lighter loads due to Ramadan etc and maybe tech or repair issues. EK are no stranger in downgrading the A380 during Ramadan. Th
60 HT : No news for almost 2 weeks ? (and keeping this thread from getting archived. Guilty as charged) -HT
61 mainMAN : Not only VS to LHR, but also U2 to LGW! ... as mentioned on another forum. That would be a good move, Easyjet to Gatwick would wipe the floor with BA
62 Post contains links Mattuk : LS adding 3 x weekly to MAH and 1 x weekly CFU from next summer, to add to the previously announced ZTH and GNB. http://www.jet2.com/new/newroutes
63 GT4EZY : Remember that thus far that is only the wish of the commerical manager. The route still (Just) falls within Easyjets 4 hour or less by surface transp
64 david_itl : Couple of new FR routes. Not mentioned in the FR news items nor on wikipedia... but on the MAN website under "new routes"! Riga and Gdansk starting 7
65 Post contains links and images BlueShamu330s : I notice there's a new, local forum catering to the needs of both MAN & LPL enthusiasts and followers. http://ljlanewsandviews.proboards.com/index
66 danfearn77 : Reports that U2 are to add aircraft number 7 for next year so we can expect a few new routes from them along side the 2 new FR routes. Id like to thin
67 GT4EZY : It's looking likely that a/c no.8 will be here next Summer too.......no.7 being earmarked for Summer 2012 and sent to NCE instead. 20 routes being sh
68 boysteve : Very strange and lethargic climb out by EK20 this evening. It flew a normal flight path and I watched it climb over the city centre but it looked bigg
69 Mattuk : US reducing capacity on MAN-PHL with A332 operating instead of the A333 from the 27th Nov to the 1st Mar 2013. Looks like it's a straight swap with LH
70 jumpjets : Could be - though CLT-LGW is going down to a 332 and PHL-CDG going up to a 333 - so a bit of transatlantic juggling all round.
71 Post contains links david_itl : Here's the easyJet report "We are very well known in Liverpool and could become much better known in Manchester and it is very important to us to incr
72 lisbonbearuk : MAN-MAD was mentioned a few weeks ago as a route that looked in jeopardy - which airlines will there be on the route for this winter?
73 danfearn77 : At one stage it looked as though U2, FR and IB were all pulling the MAD route from MAN this winter. But it seems FR is now going to keep it, either at
74 david_itl : Dates for Champions League when City/United are at home: 19.09.12 Man Utd v Galatasary (Turkey) 03.10.12 Man City v Borussia Dortmund (Germany) 23.10.
75 Post contains images woady : Hi all, Anyone know which Monarch plane was undergoing engine tests today? TIA
76 Post contains links Mattuk : Libyan Airlines resumed flights between Tripoli and Manchester yesterday, using a leased A320 from Nouvelair of Tunisia. http://www.libyaherald.com/?p
77 mainMAN : Bizarrely, still no opportunity to buy MAN - LHR seats on the VS website. Is this an attempt to dissuade local passengers from taking up capacity whic
78 david_itl : Funny thing is that it shows on the flight timetable and the icon has a hyperlink to book the flight but that's where it's falling flat.
79 HT : No Problem to get a quote on a third-party website here in Germany for random dates in April 2013. -HT
80 Boeing74741R : In theory you could do MAN-LGW in under 4 hours by rail, but it involves having to get a Virgin Train to Euston for a Tube to Victoria for a Southern
81 Post contains links david_itl : They're losing 2 based aircraft from winter. ____ MAN has now got it's profile on the Route Shop website. One of the more surprising things I've seen
82 ZKOJH : I'm from stoke and every time I have flown to Beijing from MAN and VV, its been a journey of anywhere between 15, and 22 hours, gone most ways, severa
83 mainMAN : It lists HKG as the second largest un-served market (after China), although it's really the first. How would VS fare on MAN - HKG feeding into HKG -
84 Post contains images gkirk : Is it wise havinga pic of MOL on the Route Shop page though?
85 LuftyMatt : Hmm maybe, but quite a few times when I flew it MAN was overbooked. They were looking for people to drop out and go on an LHR flight instead.
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