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Delta - Royal Air Maroc End Partnership  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22027 posts, RR: 51
Posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Delta and Royal Air Maroc filed with the DOT to end their 12+ year reciprocal codeshare relationship effective June 20, 2012.

Anyone know why the hasty break up ?


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User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

Lets hope the next announcement is that Delta
is starting their own service to Morocco !

User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 349 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4196 times:

This July, Royal Air Maroc has 9 to 12 weekly flights from JFK to CMN. Without the Delta codeshare, will this likely be too high of a frequency? It would interesting to know how essential the codeshare is for the success of the route for Royal Air Maroc.

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3346 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4125 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 2):
This July, Royal Air Maroc has 9 to 12 weekly flights from JFK to CMN. Without the Delta codeshare, will this likely be too high of a frequency? It would interesting to know how essential the codeshare is for the success of the route for Royal Air Maroc.

Replacement partner....
AA or B6 out of JFK?

Wasn't there talk of one of the North African carriers being interested in oneworld? Was it RAM or Tunisair that was interested?

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User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 1):
Lets hope the next announcement is that Delta
is starting their own service to Morocco !

I hope so, a 757 would be perfect for the route! With RAM being a less than stellar airline, I'm sure they can pick up business and leisure traffic on this route.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22027 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3969 times:

It seems a bit bizarre to me this happening with mere 1-week notice, and in the summer of all times.

Imagine the number of passengers effected?

Strange stuff imo..


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User currently offlineDL WIDGET HEAD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
It seems a bit bizarre to me this happening with mere 1-week notice

No doubt there's more to this story. Ususlly, there's a lot more time given before an agreement is actually terminated.

[Edited 2012-06-15 07:25:07]


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User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3809 times:
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I have absolutely no knowledge, but the haste makes you think that RAM is about to get cited for safety issues either by FAA or Europe.


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User currently offlineslclaxkixkhh From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

Quoting Coronado (Reply 7):
I have absolutely no knowledge, but the haste makes you think that RAM is about to get cited for safety issues either by FAA or Europe.

If that happens, I wouldn't be too suprised if DL starts JFK-CMN.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 2):
This July, Royal Air Maroc has 9 to 12 weekly flights from JFK to CMN. Without the Delta codeshare, will this likely be too high of a frequency?

AT has daily 744 service CMN-YUL with no codeshares. I can't see why 9 to 12 weekly 763s serving a major gateway to the entire USA should be a problem. Even without a codeshare I would expect AT and DL will still have an interline ticketing agreement.

User currently offlineYukon880 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2639 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):

With respect, I would question the daily 744 claim.
I see that the Whale is scheduled to operate the CMN-YUL flight today, 17Jun, but it seems that the service has been 763 a/c for the last several weeks.


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2159 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 3):
AA or B6

B6 seems to be whoring themselves out to more and more International airlines, I think the more carriers they can sign to bring feed into JFK on, the better for B6. Plus all the new carriers employees of B6 can take advantage of flying on, win, win as I see it. I see B6 being to JFK, what AS is to SEA, an excellent domestic feed network for a myriad of foreign carriers with a flight or two from either SEA or JFK. Which is why I'm skeptical of B6 going long-haul International. IMO.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):

AT has daily 744 service CMN-YUL with no codeshares. I can't see why 9 to 12 weekly 763s serving a major gateway to the entire USA should be a problem. Even without a codeshare I would expect AT and DL will still have an interline ticketing agreement.

I am unsure to agree with you, or try and argue the point that AT needs the DL feed. If DL does go into CMN on their own, that may be the issue, DL is hot on Africa and doing better than any other US Airline since PA to Africa. I guess only those working with AT can really see how many connect off DL to AT at JFK vs those who originate or come via other carriers.


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User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 529 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2485 times:

For 20 minutes of free entertainment, read the 200 reviews of Royal Air Maroc here...

http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/maroc.htm

My buddy flew them out of JFK, and was commenting on the goat rope of a loading process when I started reading these reviews to him. He said they were largely accurate!

Cheers!

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting Yukon880 (Reply 10):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):

With respect, I would question the daily 744 claim.
I see that the Whale is scheduled to operate the CMN-YUL flight today, 17Jun, but it seems that the service has been 763 a/c for the last several weeks.

Schedule is showing a 744 every day this week except Saturday which is a 763.

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15722 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Quoting slclaxkixkhh (Reply 8):
I wouldn't be too suprised if DL starts JFK-CMN.
Quoting cokepopper (Reply 1):
Lets hope the next announcement is that Delta
is starting their own service to Morocco !

JFKDKR is barely there, JFKPRG is seasonal w/ a partner on both ends, most of Southern Europe has gone seasonal--I'm not sure how CMN could be better than any of those struggling markets.


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