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Irish 9/12:The Joy Of Flying  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 25969 times:

Good morning folks and welcome - after what must have been the longest thread we've had in a very long time - to our 9th thread of 2012.

We can at least say that our success in aviation is better than our success in football!

It's been an interesting month with some interesting developments, most recently - as reported at the end of the previous thread - the decision by the British OFT that FR's shareholding in EI - affected competition; watch this space for some further fireworks. Although both carriers are Dublin based, both have significant operations in the UK and of course, FR has seven bases there. This could get very interesting. Could EY increase its EI shareholding (or indeed buy the shares directly from FR)?

Thankfully, the security problems faced by DUB, as reported in the last thread, seem to be over; let's hope the DAA puts this unfortunate episide permanently behind it and learns some lessons.

The Summer season is now well in operation and let's hope that passenger numbers continue to climb; May saw a bit of a dip, but that was largely due to exceptional traffic last year.

Well, here's to some interesting developments to look forward to in the month ahead ...

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User currently offlineDublinspotter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 25880 times:

Hi

Well On the last thread there was talks of EI moving from BFS to BHD. I personally don't think its a good idea because they are well established at BFS. But apparently its not confirmed and more airlines are expected to come in and fill WW departure.

http://www.u.tv/News/Aer-Lingus-swit...0cfd99-9ca2-4037-8f78-94f753935dc3

I hope it works out well from BHD and I hope that BFS doesn't close after this, because they are loosing traffic to BHD

Dublinspotter



Dublinspotter :)
User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7117 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 25819 times:

http://galwayindependent.com/stories...forts-to-maintain-airport-continue

Galway airport is still open. Rumours are it will close imminently and be converted into a park n ride.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 25729 times:

Getting back to the OFT EI/FR issue I wonder what will be the outcome and who will buy the stake if its forced to sell .

Ryanair hits out as it faces forced sell-down of Aer Lingus stake

Ryanair faces the prospect of being forced to sell down its 29.8pc stake in Aer Lingus after the Office of Fair Trading referred the six-year old holding to the Competition Commission.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...sell-down-of-Aer-Lingus-stake.html

--

Reaction from BHD :

Belfast Airport will not close, says City chief

Controversial claims that Belfast should have just one airport have prompted an angry reaction.

Brian Ambrose, chief executive of George Best Belfast City Airport, has dismissed the remarks made by the British Airline Pilots’ Association (BALPA) at a Commons Select Committee hearing as laughable.

“How do you close Belfast City Airport?” he said.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...lose-says-city-chief-16172981.html


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 25322 times:

E-mail received this afternoon of my BMI status match to Aer Lingus Gold!

Happy days  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 25195 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
E-mail received this afternoon of my BMI status match to Aer Lingus Gold!

I received the email last Saturday and the card and luggage tags arrived today, didn't think it would only take a week.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 24476 times:
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Quoting bestwestern (Reply 2):
Galway airport is still open. Rumours are it will close imminently and be converted into a park n ride.

I'm amazed it has managed to struggle on this long. I love the way they mentioned it was used to accomodate a private charter for the CEO to announce new jobs in Galway as if GWY had something to do with winning those jobs for Galway.

Also, what kind of part and ride facility are they considering using it for? Bus services I would presume. Galway City Council have tried a similar scheme for a few weeks leading up to Christmas every year for as long as I can remember and it has been an utter failure each and every time with very low utilisation.



Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24286 times:

I see Aer Lingus could be into industrail relations according to the journal! Is there a year without this in EI anymore? Seems like it has to happen once a year!

Kevin


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24227 times:

The latest risk of industrial action is down to the possible closure of the Shannon hanger, the Unite union has said that strike action will be likely over the summer if EI announce the closure of the hanger at the end of June. It will involve less than 10% of the workforce but will cause significant disruption according to the union.

I think the risk of industrial action from the pensions issue is a lot more serious, the future sale of the governments share and attracting a buyer is dependent of whether or not this is sorted so it's worrying to see very little progress after the talks broke down earlier.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24056 times:

An interesting article in the Belfast Telegraph :

The Belfast Telegraph understands that Aer Lingus could be set to offer flights from George Best Airport to Heathrow, Gatwick, Edinburgh, Manchester, Birmingham and Glasgow airports — if it switches its operations from Belfast International Airport as widely expected.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...gus-plans-move-16173742.html?r=RSS

Lots of speculation about what routes and from where but this makes more sense than the rumour that EI were looking for more slots out of LHR to operate Domestic .


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 23813 times:

Good 'ol Mick Wallace had his BMW towed away after parking it in the Aer Lingus staff car park. Speculation as to who gave him a swipe and pin number to gain access.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...way-from-its-car-park-3140786.html


User currently offlinejambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 23726 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):

I hope EI know what they are doing, direct competition with BE and indirect with U2, they should be planning an EK style marketing campaign to ensure the routes work out.

My parents return from Kefalonia tomorrow transiting through Gatwick with U2. My mum is a big fan of Aer Lingus [she will miss their Canary routes if scrapped]. It will be interesting to observe if she would choose EI over U2.

One thing U2 offer that EI does not is flight forwarding. Last year with U2 they were able to catch an earlier flight from LGW to BFS free of charge. I tried the same for EI from MAN to DUB but they attempted to charge me £70. EI should improve to match U2 if they are to attract loyal U2 customers. From my point of view, U2 offer good enough service to be considered a flag carrier. If EI creep in with less flexibility trying to aim for business traffic they could fail miserably [except for LHR] Good luck EI.

http://www.belfastairport.com/en/new...tra-flights-on-belfast-routes.html

U2 expanding frequencies on existing routes from BFS. Is the alpha male showing everyone who is boss in Belfast?  

Off topic, has EI thought of installing green mood lighting on board new aircraft? For me it would be a visual comfort winner, as I find the cabin comfortable but bland and common. It partly kills the magic on arguably Europes greenest airlines.

[Edited 2012-06-18 08:23:47]


1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2887 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 23717 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
Lots of speculation about what routes and from where but this makes more sense than the rumour that EI were looking for more slots out of LHR to operate Domestic .

I'm wondering if EI do move to BHD, would BA allow EI sole access to the Belfast-Heathrow route? In that case EI would need more slots. Would BA have to give these to EI under the BD purchase agreement or would EI have to get them on their own?



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 23527 times:

Quoting jambost (Reply 11):
One thing U2 offer that EI does not is flight forwarding.

Not entirely true; I arrived back into LHR from DEL back in February and a friend of mine was travelling onward to DUB with EI. We had arrived several hours earlier than planned and she simply asked to be put on the next flight to DUB and EI did so free of charge and with a smile, so I think it depends on who is on duty and their mood when you ask!


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 23444 times:

EI have also done it for me before a few times - always LHR-DUB as it happens.

There is a logic to it on high frequency and business routes. The seat they're giving you hasn't been sold and won't be sold if you're asking shortly before the flight. But the seat you're vacating CAN be sold, for quite a bit of money, if someone turns up at the airport.

Thinking about it, it was an EI-uniformed staff member I asked in LHR - dunno if they are actually direct employees. Is it possible that EI staff have more leeway in this area than, say, the Menzies staff in MAN that jambost encountered would have?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23396 times:

Quoting Phen (Reply 13):

It certainly depends who you get at the Airport. If a check in agent wants to do it they will. Status with that Airline helps and even before with status I have been refused at check in only to ask again at the lounge and it being granted FOC.


User currently offlinejambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23254 times:

Quoting Phen (Reply 13):
Not entirely true; I arrived back into LHR from DEL back in February and a friend of mine was travelling onward to DUB with EI. We had arrived several hours earlier than planned and she simply asked to be put on the next flight to DUB and EI did so free of charge and with a smile, so I think it depends on who is on duty and their mood when you ask!

Thanks for sharing,
I traveled with EK and EI on separate bookings, if I had booked the entire journey through emirates could EI be more flexible under those circumstances?
I received the EI charm so it was not a negative experience, plus EK were amazing apart from the B777 3-4-3. [I was lucky my flight stopped over in Singapore and have the relief of an A380 to MAN] MEL-DXB non stop would have snapped me! Im gathering up photo's so i'l try and type up my first TR!



1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 23121 times:

For anyone interested my Aer Lingus TR can be found here :



Free Elite Status Match-Aer Lingus+Queen's Jubilee
(by OA260 Jun 18 2012 in Trip Reports)

My first time for many years as GC Elite   I have to say I never thought I would be GC again after they ran the program down but this offer from EI was too good to miss and has had the desired effect as it will make me fly Aer Lingus more and I will aim to maintain it when it runs out next year.

It has certainly been a good PR move by Aer Lingus and will no doubt earn them some more loyalty and business. Here is hoping that the Gold Circle club goes from strength to strength and that we may see some more partners too . In fairness to EI they do have a decent list of lounges outside of Ireland .


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 22812 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 12):
I'm wondering if EI do move to BHD, would BA allow EI sole access to the Belfast-Heathrow route? In that case EI would need more slots. Would BA have to give these to EI under the BD purchase agreement or would EI have to get them on their own?

I don't know why posters (not just on these forums, but elsewhere too) on BA cutting Belfast and Dublin. They have dropped the routes in the past, but things then and now are very different. Historically BA has had significant slot constraints, but with the acquisition of BD this will ease a bit. BA has dropped routes where partners can provide feed and keep the city on-line, one way or another, Ireland was left to EI, which made sense given the frequency advantage. BA have already announced a new domestic route to LBA, which seems to indicate that BHD and DUB will be hanging around for the foreseeable future. I don't see why BA and EI can't work together on DUB-LHR and Belfast-LHR.

As for the move, I'm trying to think of a scenario where it makes complete sense. The suggestion seems to be that EI would move to BHD to launch domestic UK routes, presumably at high frequency across the Irish sea. This is all mixed in with significant expansion out of LHR to UK domestic destinations too, possibly in co-operation or in competition with BA, it's not clear. Regional may, or may not, be involved. All of this would be in competition with the established BE network out of BHD and competing with a lot of U2 routes too. The move to BHD would likely mean canaries services could no longer be operated, or at least need to splash and dash in DUB/SNN/ORK. This seems like a recipe for total disaster and a fine way to loose a lot of money very quickly. Im not convinced.

Quoting jambost (Reply 11):
Off topic, has EI thought of installing green mood lighting on board new aircraft? For me it would be a visual comfort winner, as I find the cabin comfortable but bland and common. It partly kills the magic on arguably Europes greenest airlines.

I have been wondering this myself. I think it would be good to have a slightly more interesting cabin enviornment, green mood lighting could look OK, but I wonder if it might be a bit goolish and cold?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
It has certainly been a good PR move by Aer Lingus and will no doubt earn them some more loyalty and business. Here is hoping that the Gold Circle club goes from strength to strength and that we may see some more partners too . In fairness to EI they do have a decent list of lounges outside of Ireland .

They do need to sort out the partner earn/burn ratio, but hopefully this proactive matching is a sign of things to come.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22650 times:

Air Corps helicopter makes a precationary landing due to possible wire strike.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0619/air...ter-hard-landing-in-tipperary.html


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22592 times:

Ryanair just offered 1.30 per share bid for Aer Lingus - just announced via the Stock Exchange.

Off and running again.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22562 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 20):
Off and running again.

Yep indeed here we go again !

Ryanair makes €694m cash offer for Aer Lingus

Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Ryanair has made a bid for Aer Lingus, the third time it has tried to buy the airline in the past six years.

In a statement, the low fares carrier has outlined its intention to make an all cash offer of €1.30 per share, valuing Aer Lingus at €694m.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...h-offer-for-aer-lingus-555939.html


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22560 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
It has certainly been a good PR move by Aer Lingus and will no doubt earn them some more loyalty and business. Here is hoping that the Gold Circle club goes from strength to strength and that we may see some more partners too . In fairness to EI they do have a decent list of lounges outside of Ireland .

I agree with you there. They should do it anyway, they now have the lounges to back it up - anyone who hasn't been in an EI lounge in years would be very impressed with the new lounges. I am still wondering if BOS has been done up to the same style though!

Agreed on more partners - it would be nice. Also, it would be good for Aer Lingus to stick some kind of earning table up for partner flights. I am reluctant to credit any other travel (BA, QF, CX and UA) to Aer Lingus as I am afraid I am going to get screwed... so I keep crediting them to my QF programme. I find that useless as splitting things up doesn't do me any good.

One of the best, if not the best, partner lounge that EI have is the Number One lounge at London Gatwick. Free hot meals (small, but oh so good) to order - along with other bits and pieces - an exceptional lounge if you ever get the chance to use it. The Jack Lynch lounge in ORK is supposed to be good too. The SNN lounge is an old EI lounge and is bare bones.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22544 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 22):
Also, it would be good for Aer Lingus to stick some kind of earning table up for partner flights. I am reluctant to credit any other travel (BA, QF, CX and UA) to Aer Lingus as I am afraid I am going to get screwed... so I keep crediting them to my QF programme. I find that useless as splitting things up doesn't do me any good.

Indeed but an email to GC would let you know what you would earn so at least you can credit in confidence. A table would be much better of course.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 22):
One of the best, if not the best, partner lounge that EI have is the Number One lounge at London Gatwick. Free hot meals (small, but oh so good) to order -

Yes I used it a few times and the mini menu they have there is on par with some F Class lounges I have been in coupled by some nice views and free wifi its a lovely lounge.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22542 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 20):
Ryanair just offered 1.30 per share bid for Aer Lingus - just announced via the Stock Exchange.

Don't think MO'L is ever going to give this one up. Just won't take no for an answer.


25 jambost : I can imagine it could seem a little tacky. If they struck a balance between green, gold, orange and maybe Celtic patterned bulkhead or head rest fab
26 Post contains links and images OA260 : I miss the old A330 poetry fabric . Would be great to see that in Green/Yellow and Blue again . . .
27 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : Those pictures bring back some memories! The "good" 'aul days before AVOD and consistent plain green seats
28 jambost : It would have been nice if they kept a little character in their new interiors. A head rest cover with their shamrock logo? For now EI are probably h
29 Post contains links OA260 : Yes there is a way to do it without being OTT . Maybe even headrest covers with the poetry on would be a easy thing to do and not expensive. Images o
30 jambost : Its a shame, I dont think EI would be interested due to the fleet type or would they consider adapting WX to their regional franchise? Personally I c
31 EIDL : If EI blow their cash pile on WX, they a: won't have the cash pile that FR is clearly after and b: probably be too big for FR to buy for cash. Might b
32 kaitak : Strange about WX; only recently, they were talking about merger Transavia France, Regional and BritAir under the Cityjet umbrella. Can't see there bei
33 AmricanShamrok : Interesting. I think it would be really hard to beat their current scheme. It hasn't aged a day and is instantly recognisable at foreign airports, li
34 EagleBoy : I'm in this boat......hasn't aged yet, perfectly suited to their business model, no need to change the livery.
35 cipango : Would love to see what new livery they would come up with if they were to change it. That said I do love the current livery. -- What happened to Aero
36 tonystan : Dont you mean DUB-SVO....Didnt think Aeroflot used Domodedevo?
37 Post contains links OA260 : It was DUB-SVO that was mentioned but nothing since. --- Dont know how legal this would be and if the EU would allow it , I can see the arguments tho
38 Post contains images cipango : Apologies! Moscow airports have always confuse me
39 Post contains images kaitak : We had a similar issue in relating to Jersey and HMG did not intervene; I think the main issue is that EU law can protect - to some extent - access t
40 BrianDromey : Interesting article in this mornings Irish Times on the EI/FR deal, one look at the graphic shows why this deal will never be approved. The facts (fro
41 kaitak : Sorry, I don't understand this; why should EI be rudderless? I get that EI - and in particular, EI Regional - is giving FR a headache, but surely thi
42 ein105 : On top of all of that, its yet more free publicity for FR! Im sure his the bid is also aimed at pushing some sort of movement from EY. With the sale
43 tonystan : Likely to agree with you regarding AF mainline coming back into Dublin in a more fuller capacity. I also can see BA Citiflyer jumping on the DUB-LCY
44 Post contains links OA260 : Aer lingus confirms in talks with BHD : Aer Lingus has confirmed that it is in talks with George Best Belfast City Airport. The airline is believed to
45 EIDL : 100% of CFN is BE (operated by LC), not FR/EI[Edited 2012-06-21 12:40:15]
46 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Flybe also have a few UK routes out of Knock I believe. Anyone else seeing UA/SNN ads promoting NYC and San Francisco when they come on here? Fairly
47 jambost : A thought occurs, could EI be moving and expanding their UK ops to BHD and keep current sun routes at BFS? I can not imagine them ditching successful
48 shamrock604 : Air France and Lufthansa have been offering this option now also for quite some time, but allow a 48 or 72 hour period to complete the booking, which
49 styles9002 : Indeed, I agree with you here. Many companies, including Aer Lingus, seem to regularly have 'non-recurring' or once-off charges appear on their finan
50 tonymctigue : I've arrived in Melbourne after a long but most enjoyable CX flight that took me all the way from SNN (operated by EI) to LHR, onto HKG and finally in
51 OA260 : Interesting idea but would it be cost effective to operate from them both ?
52 EIBusiness : My prolonged relative absence from here is explained by completing a Thesis on such a similar topic presently. While slightly off topic, I would note
53 jambost : It would seem like a messy uneconomical set up, the article I read said EI were in talks with both airports so that's where my thought evolved from,
54 BrianDromey : Maybe not quite rudderless, but a lot of management time will enevitably be taken up dealing with this issue, rather than growing the business in a s
55 jambost : I hope EI can arrange this setup, it could boost their image as the only airline that want to serve both Belfast markets covering majority of NI. LDY
56 ein105 : Operating from BFS and BHD would only complicate what is a small operation as it stands. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Canaries dropped; more cap
57 IRISH251 : No sign of it, but S7 recommenced DME-DUB on a weekly basis last Saturday evening. I'm not sure how many weeks this will run for. Equipment is an A31
58 greenjet : BE also serves LBA from NOC.
59 EIBoston : EI110 had to turn back to JFK shortly after takeoff last night. Knock on effect in SNN today.
60 tonymctigue : Hey guys, I've noticed a few times recently that the Belavia Shannon to Minsk service has appeared a few times on the SNN arrivals/departures board a
61 bestwestern : Till 15th Sept
62 captainmeeerkat : S7 say until mid August on their website, how long is it bookable?
63 AmricanShamrok : Still knock on delays to tonight's EI134/BOS-SNN, running about 5 hours behind. EI have put on an extra JFK-SNN flight tonight also; operating as fli
64 IRISH251 : These are seasonal flights for the Chernobyl Children's Project . Dublin usually gets one or two as well.
65 Post contains links kaitak : Well, here's something straight out of left field: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/turkish-air...gus-report-140519024--finance.html Turkish Airlines - who'd
66 OA260 : Interesting but time will tell they have "looked" before at carriers and not done anything so this maybe another one of those window shopping trips .
67 ein105 : TK are just looking. The only serious contender is EY, shown by the 3% stake they took. In my opinion, I think O'Leary is trying to offload his stake
68 EIDL : TK have some legitimate reasons to look - their share of DUB->middle east traffic has been destroyed by EY and EK whereas they've been doing it for
69 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Arann are said to have completed their evaluation of the ATR 72-600 with an announcement imminent. It was rumoured 6 were ready to be ordered but
70 eirbus06 : Shamrock 138 from Boston to Dublin is just off the west coast. Showing that North American airlines are operating the flight with a 767.
71 clydenairways : Maybe the long rumoured return to DUB-LPL will finally happen. I highly doubt that DUB is that significant to TK that they would look to invest in a
72 shamrock350 : Carlisle Airport is also set to get the Stobart treatment if the local council approves their plans for a freight distribution centre and to resurfac
73 shamrock321 : BD flights switch to BA on Wedensday, good chance a dove will be headed your way, or at least a BA liveried sircraft would be nice to see!
74 Ire2008 : Does that mean free snacks n drinks so to LHR? Kevin
75 Post contains images ClassicLover : Well, my Aer Lingus Gold Circle card arrived today with the bag tags. My only criticism is that the baggage tags also state the June 2013 expiry date
76 shamrock321 : Yes as of Wednesday the BA offering will be Club Europe and Euro Traveler! Full service in Club, Traveler will have small sandwiches on early services
77 EIDL : On a very full and slightly late EI0605 today and they announced "you can depart from the front or the back door of the aircraft today". I was in 1C s
78 AmricanShamrok : It's fairly common I'd say. On my (delayed and packed full) SXF-DUB flight last year they disembarked from the front (via airbridge) and the back (ai
79 Post contains images OA260 : Yeah don't know why they do that it's not as if you have Priority bags on the 99% of their flights. I can understand it on others where Priority tags
80 Post contains images ClassicLover : A free bar service! That's a cat among the pigeons isn't it?
81 EagleBoy : Perhaps, I would guess it depends on the fares being offered. While most people on A.Net travel for the experience for many business commuters gettin
82 EIDL : At one point, one of the fleet/order tracker sites was convinced that the last four of the EI A320 order were to be dual-class. I still wonder if that
83 cipango : How will they work out the change over from BD to BA in DUB tonight? The late night BD flight from LHR usually parks overnight and travels back to LHR
84 AmricanShamrok : Has EI considered adding Wi-Fi to its shorthaul fleet? It could be a nice moneymaker for them if they charged for it (but perhaps made it freely avail
85 shamrock350 : Aer Arann will apparently place an order for their fleet replacement at the Farnborough Air Show next month. The last rumour was for around 6-8 aircra
86 OA260 : It's BA flight number still "Operated by British Midland International" . So in terms of interior and exterior you could get anything really. This ev
87 BrianDromey : Hopefully this will be for expansion, as much as replacement. I suppose those Air Contractors ATRs will have to go back at some point though. Most EI
88 Jambost : EK have WI-FI on their A380's and will soon have it for their 777's. However for economy it was very pricy, 5 USD for 30mb of data. That would only la
89 cipango : The people who are flying with FR are usually flying for different reasons as people flying with EI. Buinessmen, who would avail of the service the m
90 ClassicLover : I disagree with you there. Our executives will fly whichever airline depending on the destination. For example, places that Ryanair serve in the UK s
91 kaitak : This year sees the last SAS MD80 services to Dublin, so catch them while you can! From next year, only ATH will get MD81s. SAS has been using DC9s and
92 BrianDromey : I don't think that is necessarily the case. In this day and age most travel policy is cheapest available ticket, the name on the side of the plane is
93 Post contains images OA260 : Sad for DUB but great for me to see they are keeping them in ATH . I had a great flight ATH-CPH-DUB back in December . Nice change , an upgrade IMHO
94 clydenairways : 1966 with the Caravelle.
95 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : From another thread - Delta Air Lines will begin offering Wi-Fi on its international fleet starting next year with completion in 2015. This includes a
96 Post contains images EIBusiness : Not if another carrier launches it beforehand EIBusiness
97 shamrock350 : Jet2 have announced TFS and ACE from BFS for the winter season and easyJet have announced increased frequencies on UK routes. I think whichever Belfas
98 Post contains links tonymctigue : Sounds like Leo really wants to get moving on SNN which is no bad thing "Minister asks steering group on Shannon Airport to deliver report quickly to
99 tonystan : Came home in Club Europe yesterday. It was a BD aircraft with BD crew and on a BD AOC however the announcements and service where very much BA standa
100 Jambost : Fight for 2nd & 3rd place between DL & EK, I believe DY have beat them to it, although they have only equipped it on half of their fleet so I
101 Post contains links shamrock350 : Turkish Airlines not planning to buy Aer Lingus-CEO http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...es-aerlingus-idUSL6E8HT3LR20120629 Not really a surprise bu
102 EIDL : How long is ATR's backlog? Searching indications its ~250 which is about a quarter of the entire volume they've produced to date - I can only assume t
103 EIRules : For anyone interested, UA have some fantastic fares to EWR for selected dates in November. Just picked up a return for €334 all in
104 Cabincrewifly : Wow thats brill! Must look into that......
105 kaitak : Alitalia will be operating a series of charter flights next Summer (Saturday only) to both MXP and LIN.
106 irishtexan : Got excited reading about those UA fares. Sure enough, SNN-DFW-SNN availble at $575. Unfortunately I need DFW-SNN-DFW which is $900 for the same time
107 Post contains links irishtexan : Saw this short item at the Clare FM news site. Guess the writer is not an aviation specialist. http://www.clare.fm/news/emergency-landing-shannon-0 Su
108 eirbus06 : The plane was being ferried through shannon to england to be scrapped.
109 AmricanShamrok : I wonder if RE ever considered adding regional jets to their fleet... Heard on the radio today that Kerry Airport is in discussions with a few airline
110 ein105 : Possible route for BE or FR? With dropping their own routes, and purely operating for EI now, they have some spare capacity which can help reduce the
111 jfk777 : Dublin would be a great hub location for IAG to relieve LHR. The Irish would welcome expansion and the runway could be lengthened. Even with the BMI m
112 Post contains links and images OA260 : Hi all got to fly the transitional British Airways route on Thursday . BA has not operated a Club Europe service or their own metal into or out of DUB
113 eicvd : Starting from yesterday the 0915 arrival & 1050 depature from DUB is due to be a BA aircraft & crew from now on, at least they are trying to
114 Post contains images OA260 : Yes seen that the BA8125 is showing CE but apparantly still subject to change at short notice . Will be nice to see BA metal in DUB though
115 EagleBoy : Spotted A BA livery in DUB earlier today, didn't get a good look but seemed to be an A320.
116 Post contains images eicvd : They delivered on their promise yesterday anyway, sure was nice to see a BA airbus at the "B" pier with the other international airlines like AC/LH/L
117 Post contains links and images OA260 : Yes its great to have some variety back Strike averted for the time being : Strike averted as Aer Lingus mechanics head to LRC over Shannon hangar IN
118 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : The US Department of Homeland Security is to cut back on the Shannon Preclearance opening hours. The preclearance is currently open 07:00-19:00 daily
119 Post contains images tonymctigue : Ahhhh not again! EI seemed to have finally put their horrific IR problems into the past. Not that this is likely to escalate any further. You have to
120 Post contains links OA260 : Belfast gets its flag carrier back today : BA restarts Belfast-Heathrow route after 11 years Following the acquisition of BMI by International Airline
121 ein105 : I wonder could BA move the departure time forward? If not, it looks like the second departure could face the chop! Not good for SNN. US CBP opens unt
122 AmricanShamrok : The report says that there is worry about BA's future at SNN but personally, I don't think it'll be that serious. If BA don't push back the BA3 timin
123 ein105 : But does EI133 clear in Dublin?
124 callbell : No , flight EI133 does not preclear. I think it is because of how busy the USCBP area is at its time of departure.
125 Post contains images Dublinspotter : Hi Excellent news and I believe the aircraft was also an ex BD jet (G-DBCH) Will it be a A319 or could be the A319/20/21? Brilliant news for Belfast.
126 Post contains links and images OA260 : Some photos of today's events at BHD: . .
127 AmricanShamrok : This is shocking! There are about 20 CBP booths in Terminal 2 - it's pretty much impossible for it to be too busy! Unless it's understaffed by US per
128 Post contains links and images OA260 : It will certainly be interesting to see how it all pans out. There is certainly a shake up at DUB and BHD for the better IMHO . Its great to see BA b
129 shamrock604 : I wouldnt believe anything WW says about the FR bid to be honest! There's bound to be a lot of posturing going on given FR's obvious attempt to bump
130 OA260 : That reminds me they really need to sort out the A/C in Pier B it was so hot and stuffy there whilst waiting to board. Really was not a nice passenge
131 shamrock604 : IIRC, the aircon was removed from T1 shortly after it was built as it was considered an unecessary luxury! They could do with changing the glass wind
132 Post contains links ClassicLover : Hello people, I know I harp on about the Aer Lingus Gold Circle club a little bit, but I must point out something blatantly unfair. http://www.aerling
133 EIBusiness : What I find most unfair is that the status matching that's going on with the Gold Circle Club is absolutely inequitable. I am reliably informed that
134 Post contains links and images OA260 : AFAIK the sale fares on the plus do earn GC points. Its around EUR20-30 difference than the rock bottom sale fare. Take for instance : It clearly say
135 ClassicLover : Really? Now that is interesting. How? Not that I can benefit from it, but how and what airlines? Yes, I was in that boat from 2008 to 2012... mainly
136 EIDL : GC customer services have given me a transaction printout (littered with refences to my "TAB status" - how times don't change!) and credited all sale/
137 EIBusiness : EIDL: that is exactly my point. Case in point: I recently spent almost EUR 1,200 on a return T/A (Y) fare with EI, one which I subsequently upgraded
138 Post contains images BrianDromey : You are correct, they are not. It is simply a screen shot of your current status with DC or a scan of your valid DC card. Hey presto, matched. Let's
139 Post contains links grimey : Its sad to see this happen but hopefully it gets resolved http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0704/iri...ee-pilots-stranded-in-florida.html http://www.indepen
140 Post contains links OA260 : Good news for Etihad : Revenues rise at Etihad Abu-Dhabi-based airline Etihad, which owns just under 3 per cent of Aer Lingus, increased its revenues
141 ClassicLover : In news just to hand - Apparently members of the Aer Lingus Gold Circle club (non-applicants, clearly) are welcome to use the Fast-Track Security lane
142 shamrock604 : Ryanair are launching the 51st base at Maastricht! Dublin is one of the new routes to be launched (14 in total, of which 3 are new) Maastricht is a st
143 ClassicLover : Considering the web site still says that the TAB (did that stand for anything?) ended in 2004, it's a bit shoddy for it still to be mentioned 8 years
144 AmricanShamrok : The Pilot Training College has issued a statement saying "some but not all students" affected by the termination of their partnership with Florida Ins
145 BrianDromey : I believe TAB stood for Travel Award Bonus. If you look at the web address when changing your details on aerlingus.com the URL contains tab.do. Clear
146 Post contains images OA260 : They have been advertising that for a few weeks now . Nice bonus and used it myself Yes as pointed out it was Travel Award Bonus and I still have my
147 Post contains links Phen : Interesting article and comments from EY CEO this evening on FT.com about their share in EI. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3b1d6e9a-c...d5-00144feabdc0.ht
148 BrianDromey : I imagine routes into UK and Europe cities where EY does not already have a presence or needs more capacity, maybe not quite an A330 worth. I would a
149 Post contains links tonymctigue : I just saw this on the SNN website "Shannon Airport to get new VIP lounge from world’s leading concierge service provider" http://www.shannonairport
150 shamrock604 : Aer Lingus are returning to Copenhagen! A new daily flight from DUB starts from the winter timetable. Dublin to Bordeaux, Verona, Venice and Stockholm
151 shamrock321 : Good to see ARN doing well, CPH will be interesting! SK fly double daily and EI have tried and failed more than once in the past!
152 EagleBoy : I think this is their 3rd time in the last 10 years to launch this route. As above good to see ARM going year round. In last years financial results
153 Cabincrewifly : Its really great to see some positive increases for winter!! Aer Lingus are also extending the Cork Brussels service to all year around and increased
154 Cabincrewifly : Also, Aer Lingus have introduced Aer Lingus Car Parking in association with DAA
155 Post contains links shamrock350 : Nice to see the Aer Lingus increases for winter but I'm surprised they're trying CPH again though, think it was winter 2007 that they last tried it. W
156 EIDL : Appears to be no cheaper than from the DAA site. Unless it gives GC points there's no specific reason to use it - just an attempt by EI to get a few
157 Post contains links EIRules : It appears EI are not the only airline looking to lure BD Diamond Club members http://www.aircanada.com/uk/en/offer...eroplan/earn_miles/earn_miles.ht
158 OA260 : Hope they last longer on CPH this time and for the long term. Been a few years since I took the EI service to CPH. Been mostly SK the last few years.
159 EI320 : Air Canada have prudently excluded Diamond Club Blue members from their Aeroplan status match offer. This way, only members that have accrued signifi
160 Post contains links OA260 : Interesting article on EI . If IAG did ever consider a take over then it would be for the slots and a break up of EI as we know it . Three-way tussle
161 clydenairways : In other words "LHR Slots" only.
162 BrianDromey : I agree that the levels of match being offered seem generous. On the face of it, it is surprising that Blue membership is seen by EI as the equivalen
163 shamrock604 : Some good news - traffic at Dublin up 3% in June. Europe up 4% UK down 1% TATL up 5% Middle East up 100% Growth on mid east suggests EK's arrival has
164 ClassicLover : In my own case, I was BMI Blue, with a couple of thousand miles and some status miles as well. I thought the Aer Lingus offer was very good - mainly
165 OA260 : Well I was EI GC higher tier levels for years when they were Oneworld. Then EI left and BD offered me a match to Gold . I remained loyal to BD and St
166 BrianDromey : I agree, this could easily, and should be done. I am still hoping that EI have managed to lure at least one body from the now sunken Diamond Club (an
167 EIBusiness : I respectfully disagree. Aer Lingus is incurring a significant cost in matching to Elite level. I state again: The average annual spend with Aer Ling
168 Post contains images OA260 : The number of people using those will be minimal and with regards to the upgrades the space needs to be available in the redemption class so they are
169 EIBusiness : Where the upgrade inventory has been surpassed, a request is made with EI Revenue Management. 99% of the time this is rarely, if ever refused, unless
170 Post contains images OA260 : Well with regards to that EI should give priority based on history in the last 12 months maybe they will. It certainly wouldnt be unfair if such a ca
171 EIDL : Does anyone know if there's any surety about what days SK will, if at all, have an MD80 into DUB from CPH and what days its a 319? Would prefer to com
172 Post contains links Cabincrewifly : Alitalia A320 on a charter flight to DUB today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDF3cvYntV0
173 OA260 : Great video good quality too . Nice to see AZ in DUB would love to see them return some day as scheduled .
174 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus to bid on slots out of LHR . Certainly would be an interesting development if they got some. Aer Lingus Group Plc (AERL) plans to bid for s
175 dstc47 : One swallow does not make a summer , but it might be some good news that the UA service from IAD last night was full in Y class and nearly full in bus
176 Post contains links and images ClassicLover : Well, as I said in the other thread, they have been wanting more Heathrow slots for quite some time. I imagine if the EDI route doesn't work out comm
177 Cabincrewifly : Aer Lingus flight EI 822 from Cork to Malaga had a medical emergency onboard. They opted to return to Cork after one hour in the the flight. The aircr
178 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Just came across an Aer Lingus transatlantic meal served in Economy in 2002 (EI124 ORD-DUB-SNN). How times change!: http://nat.org/photo.php3?p=04911
179 Post contains images ClassicLover : I suppose they could always do it in Dublin, right? Though I hear those hours are being cut back too... would BA3 fit in with those hours then? Since
180 EIDAA : With all this talk of status matches, I am unfortunately still waiting for a response from Gold Circle on my own request. The website would not proces
181 AmricanShamrok : The DUB hours are even more restricted as far as I know! It closes sometime in mid-afternoon which is why the late JFK and BOS flights could never pr
182 Pilot21 : This hours of operation of the Dublin facility are being discussed in the Aer Lingus moves to T5 (JFK) thread. EI are moving the 109 service back to
183 SURFER : Whats going on in DUB tonight see a lot of aircraft in holding patterns and the EI flight from Budapest just diverted to SNN?
184 AmricanShamrok : Indeed but EI has always moved the winter EI109 departure time back to 15:45 for some reason and even then it still does not preclear. The new SNN pr
185 tonystan : And the ZRH diverted to BFS. Apparently (from friend who was operating the ZRH) as they were on finals the runway was changed suddenly. Aircraft did
186 tonymctigue : This would come as a serious blow to SNN if it were to happen. I know the current revenue stream from this operation is likely to be small but based
187 Post contains links lasno : Wizz to trial charging for cabin baggage. One of the aims is to improve the passenger experience! http://www.travelmole.com/news_featu...?news_id=2002
188 shamrock350 : The BHD press conference scheduled for today has been delayed until next week. It seemed very likely this would be the Aer Lingus announcement but dis
189 Jambost : Tricky situation for EI They seem to show no commitment to continue their winter season ACE & TFS routes , LS have taken full advantage of their
190 dstc47 : Improving the passenger experience by increased charges? Perhaps Wizz is going for the masochist market segment. How long did it take them to work ou
191 Post contains links and images OA260 : Hi all for the first time in the 14 years I have been living in Ireland I finally managed to fly back on a direct flight Athens-Dublin . Was a nice ex
192 tonymctigue : I love how airlines try to dress up these new fees for things that used to be included in the ticket price as somehow being something that passengers
193 Post contains links OA260 : Child scalded by tea on Aer Lingus flight awarded €7k in damages A FOUR-YEAR-OLD child whose left leg was scalded by a spillage of tea on an Aer Lin
194 Post contains links Cabincrewifly : Aer Arann to receive 8 ATR 72-600's from 2013 http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...-arann-take-eight-atr-72-600s-0711
195 EIDL : "Sophie Gorman was asleep in her mother’s lap when the incident occurred." "Mr MacNamara said Sophie was approaching five at the time of the accide
196 ein105 : If the seatbelt sign is off, the child can sit on her parents lap
197 EIDL : I would consider it to be a huge contributing factor on the parents part that she left her there while getting served drinks.
198 SURFER : For anyone interested i see the 787 is making a stop in SNN this morning at 10am on its way back from the farnborough airshow.Will be nice to see it i
199 BrianDromey : It seems to be all about the headline fares. I like the approach EI are taking, with Low, Best and Flexi fares. It gives the low headline fares but m
200 clydenairways : I'm sure there is some expansion on the cards..... An EI return to LPL is long overdue, and should do well for TA connections.
201 richcandy : Not my choice of wording but I totally agree with what your saying. Yesterday I tried to check some fares with flybe. Maybe its just me but until I g
202 OA260 : Yep thats Flybe . I feel the same always waiting for another surprise add on . Shame as when you get booked the product is not bad at all especially
203 Jambost : Would this now confirmed order be linked with EI holding off an expected announcement for the rumored BHD plans?
204 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : From the official SNN Facebook page: I wonder what other new destinations would be on the cards: NCL...LBA...EMA...NWI...NQY...MSE...OST... Hopefully
205 EIDL : I would imagine NWI and MSE would do as badly as DSA and MME did unfortunately. Did either of those last a year?
206 Post contains images OA260 : Very nice looks great . The interior is pleasant too .
207 Cabincrewifly : It would be great for ORK if we could get BHD, SOU and LBA back again. Badly missed. I think EI Regional has a bright future
208 AmricanShamrok : I think Glasgow is the only major market missing from Shannon's UK route network. I can't see RE returning to it though. Maybe Flybe could be lured. A
209 tonymctigue : Oh what I would give to see something like that on a regular, commercial, scheduled basis at SNN. We can always dream! Could we see EIR give SNN-SEN
210 EIRules : If anything, I think this agreement has become weaker since the CO/UA merger. EI seem to have no interest in developing it further. The UA transatlan
211 clydenairways : Maybe SNN-AMS/BRU/CDG would work with the new 72-600 with it's vastly improved comfort levels and noise/vibration suppression..(Totally new cabin int
212 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : I think it has become weaker. On the old United.com (pre-merger) it gave the option of an EI codeshare flight for, say, SNN-BOS-ORD, where SNN-BOS is
213 Post contains links OA260 : Lucky they survived ok but its a shame the aircraft was destroyed : Two uninjured after small plane makes emergency landing in Wicklow http://www.rte.
214 dstc47 : Reading my copy of the Irish Air Letter I was saddened to learn that Captain Hayden Lawford has died. Heavily involved with aviation on the west coast
215 Post contains links kaitak : I'm very sorry to hear this; although I don't know a lot about him, he clearly made a major contribution. Our new thread is now open for business: Ir
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