FSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 928 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8225 times:
I think the potential is there for this route to do well... This flight will offer great connections to all of the oil/gas-rich countries in Central Asia and to Iraq/Kurdistan. However, a 77W is larger than what I would have expected. Still, it's better for many connections than DOH/DXB.
SEA SFO SJC LAX SNA ONT SAN PHX SLC DEN IAH DFW OMA FSD MSP MSN MKE ORD DTW CLE CVG MEM BNA JAN BHM RSW SAV ATL CLT BWI
Schweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7848 times:
Very exciting! These flight timings for TK allow plenty of good connections to/from UA at IAH.
Along with United starting EWR-IST, this points to a closer relationship for the two airlines. But when just I checked various routings for connecting itineraries, UA and TK didn't seem to have any codeshares. To Be Announced?
And I wonder who will cater Turkish at IAH -- LSG or UA's Chelsea?
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 5): Boy that seems like a long way away to plan a flight being 10 months out. Are they hurting for planes that they can't start it sooner or are loads poor in the winter?
I think ten months is the furthest out that flights can be loaded into CRSs. So this means TK is offering seats for sale at the earliest possible moment.
behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 5109 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7373 times:
These timings of IST-IAH-IST are very good for TK to capture high yielding pax bound to the oil cities of Saudi Arabia, Central Asia and North Africa. In addition, the connections in both directions are very good for KHI, BOM, DAC and DEL hence they will in turn be a big threat to QR more so than TK as QR out of IAH is more reliant on Indian Subcontinent traffic compared to EK.
With QR no longer code sharing with UA, TK's entry into IAH represents a serious threat for them as one can guarantee within 18 months, this new TK IAH flight will be upgraded from 4 weekly to a daily B77W.
TK this year already launched Bremen, Leipzig, EDI, Kigali (Rwanda), Aalborg and Billund in Denmark, Yanbu and Taif in Saudi Arabia , Novosibirsk and soon EZE add-on to GRU, Ulan Bator (Mongolia), Osh (Kyrgyzstan).
Today TK announced Sharm El Sheikh and Hurghada in Egypt , Niamey (Niger), Ougadougou (Burkino Faso), , Douala and Yaounde (Cameroon) and Sebha (Libya).
I kinda lost track about all these new destinations, trying to keep up like everyone else. I have a feeling TK is trying to establish itself as one of the airlines that flies to most destinations from a single hub. I think the number is over 200 non-stop destinations out of IST nowadays.
NOTE: TK still growing double digit pax numbers, has 180 jets in its fleet and has orders to receive another 40 or so (321/738/739) within the next 3 year.
True but few things in TK's favor. Oil prices are lower and labor costs are about 30% less than in Europe, recently the government made it illegal for airline employees to strike. IST is very congested but still TK on course to carry 38mil pax this year.
January-May 2012 pax numbers up 18.9%, loads up 5.6% to 74.3% compared to same period last year.
I have no idea how they do this, month after month.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 27645 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5445 times:
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 9): And I wonder who will cater Turkish at IAH -- LSG or UA's Chelsea?
THY utilizes Do&Co exclusively on longhaul services, which includes the onboard chef.
For cities where Do&Co do not have their own kitchens, they will subcontract with an existing vendor that can support the demanding Do&Co standards. (and if not they will use an off airport kitchen like a hotel, or catering service).
[Edited 2012-06-18 09:57:43]
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
sq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1747 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5075 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14): For cities where Do&Co do not have their own kitchens, they will subcontract with an existing vendor that can support the demanding Do&Co standards. (and if not they will use an off airport kitchen like a hotel, or catering service).
"The airline also expects to boost profit this year even as a debt crisis in Europe slows global economic growth.
“This year’s going to be much better,” Kotil said, ahead of the International Air Transport Association annual meeting. The carrier made an 18.5 million lira ($10 million) profit last year. Analysts had expected a loss."
I'm not sure why the discussion about financial trouble. What is Turkish Airlines bond rating currently? (Thanks in advance, I couldn't find a quick link.)
Quoting Tdan (Thread starter): IAH-IST is loaded and available for bookings starting April 1, 2013:
Wow! I'll have to be less cynical about one of the proposed TK routes to North America.
Seriously, good to hear.
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 9): I think ten months is the furthest out that flights can be loaded into CRSs. So this means TK is offering seats for sale at the earliest possible moment.
thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4729 times:
Quoting COflyerBOS (Reply 18): I for one, cannot wait for this flight. I no longer fly for business, but my next "big" vacation was going to include Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and possibly Syria. Now I know when I will plan it.
Looking forward to the flight. Welcome to Houston!
Turkey is a great place to visit, been there on 3 occasions and love it.
Indeed, welcome to H-Town THY, hope to fly you guys soon.
FlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4179 times:
Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 21): Well, the route was announced - to a collective yawn from the Houston newspapers. Nothing in the Chronicle about this yet. What, they don't cover Houston business news?