KGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 894 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3369 times:
Just doing a little reminiscing about my all-time favorite airline Northwest and was thinking about the direction their fleet would be going in in 2012. They probably would be taking delivery of the 787s very soon, which would open up huge new route possibilities. And I think NW would have made the same deal Delta did to take the Southwest 717 fleet (there was speculation on here for years that NW would order the type when it was still in production). That is, if they didn't order the C-series. NW did seem to have an affection for Bombardier aircraft.
What about the early-build A320s and 757s? I could see an A320/A321NEO order, or even the 737-9MAX, if Boeing gave them a great deal. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. And what about additional 70+ seat RJs? Would XJ, 9E, and CP still be the only Airlink carriers, or would we see new players brought in like OO (who don't they fly for these days???) and RP?
And finally the 747s -- could we see the 747-8i or even the A380 at NWA?
Let the speculation begin!
Next trip: MKE-DFW-MKE on AA Super 80 and YV CRJ-900. Trip report coming soon!
deltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1722 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3350 times:
Well seeing how long the DC-9s stayed, and, that the merger was only 5 years ago and there were no other plans for new a/c other than as you mentioned the 787 I don't think things would be much different today. Maybe there would be a E190 order or CRJ-900 order, perhaps more A330s ordered, but that would be about it. I doubt they'd do 717 deal, I could still see DL doing that despite not merging w/ NW.
NC1844v From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3324 times:
Northwest was a great airline, They are missed from our skies that's for sure.
The 787 would have become the airline's flagship, and would have been great to see in Northwest colors.
I don't think they would have gone for the 717, due to as you said, "Affection" for bombardier aircraft and if NW did drop some money on the 717 it would be to replace their DC-9's and not start a whole new fleet category.
I'm sure the early build A320's and 757's would still have tons of life left in them at NW, I mean look at the DC-9's that have hung around so long.
Of course the 747-8i would have become a great addition to the fleet.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 22153 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3259 times:
I recall seeing a PowerPoint put out by NW back in '06 or so where they went over their future fleet plan. They indicated that the 787 would be a 744 replacement, which I found puzzling. While the 787 offers lower operational costs and similar range performance, it's certainly not a valid successor to the 744. The 744 is good on high-density, long-haul routes where multiple frequencies are either not important or not available (slot-restricted markets).
NW's model tended to keep frames around for a long time. They never did retire the DC-9 and they were among the last to retire the DC-10 and 742. Thus, it stands to reason that they would have kept their 744's around for some time and probably replaced them with 777X or A350's.
FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2194 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3): I recall seeing a PowerPoint put out by NW back in '06 or so where they went over their future fleet plan. They indicated that the 787 would be a 744 replacement, which I found puzzling. While the 787 offers lower operational costs and similar range performance, it's certainly not a valid successor to the 744. The 744 is good on high-density, long-haul routes where multiple frequencies are either not important or not available (slot-restricted markets).
Would suggest that NW, if it had not merged with DL, was looking at more point-to-point flying to overfly NRT? I think if they'd taken their A340-300s in the 1990s there might have been a little bit more of that.
columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7158 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2777 times:
A330-300s and A340-300s are seatwise basically the same, as they share the same fuselage. Maybe NW would have been interested in the -600s series but I also doubt that they would have taken new build aircraft.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6785 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7): Also: do you think if the A340 line didn't shut down, they'd have taken some of their previously cancelled orders?
Not a chance. The A340 would have been exactly redundant with the 787.
Now secondhand A330s, on the other hand, would have been perfectly in keeping with NW's historical way of doing things. I think it's quite likely that they would have picked up a few early-2000s vintage A330-323X frames in the late 2010s as 787s were replacing them for other operators.