CambridgeFlyer1 From UK - England, joined Jun 2012, 38 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19380 times:
Hi guys,
I have just seen the new BA advert of a 777 going down various streets to promote London and of course BA.
It got me thinking though, since Concorde the 747 has been the flagship aircraft of BA's fleet, but with the 747's getting past their best and not receiving the new Y and Y+ class, has the 777 taken over as the new flagship aircraft, especially as it features in a few of the new adverts? Until the introduction of the 787's and A380 at least.
bastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1007 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19288 times:
Well I guess the 777 would be really. It is the most modern longhaul aircraft currently in the BA fleet and the 777-300/re-vamped 777/200 offer the newest seats/product/IFE etc.
Though nowhere near as graceful as the jumbo in my book
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19266 times:
For now it could be the 77W but BA loves their 744's and so do the passengers. In 2014 it will be the A380, can't wait to see how BA splits the First and Club cabins over the 2 floors.
Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1823 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19137 times:
Now the 747, the year after next the A380. "Modern" doesn't do much for the customer. The biggest aircraft is the most prestigious one and therefore the flag carrier..
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qf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2555 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19140 times:
The 747 is far more iconically BA, but I think it's gained a dated image recently... So it makes sense that BA is using the more advanced aircraft in their marketing for now.
But the 747 will long be the quintessential BA flagship.
I would agree, the 747 is far more graceful and attractive! Its just strange, put the 777 in the adverts but put the One World large title on the 747's.
At the end of the day, the 747 is still a fantastic iconic plane!
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18947 times:
I'm sorry but the concept is not recognised in the modern industry. Outwith these forums, I have never even heard it mentioned. It's more of an American thing.
par13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 5901 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18879 times:
Quoting Rara (Reply 3): The biggest aircraft is the most prestigious one and therefore the flag carrier..
Guess the Concorde was never the flagship since it was among the smallest in term of pax capacity.
Those special a/c used at the City airport could also be used as flagship, its not always about being the largest, fastest or even newest tech, being unique is also a qualifier.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18726 times:
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 8): I'm sorry but the concept is not recognised in the modern industry. Outwith these forums, I have never even heard it mentioned.
Don't the general public care? Wunala Dreaming was such an iconic flagship for Qantas, and look how many people were sad to see her go, not just av geeks either. But I understand what you are saying, I was just intrigued to know BA's strategy.
eljonno From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 17077 times:
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 15): Does that have the raked B77W / B77L wingtips?
I'm pretty sure it does. You can enlarge the size of the photo in the post by motorhussy and to me it definitely looks like it is a 777W to me...but don't quote me!!
Even we don't do it much anymore. I'd agree with those who have said it's an obsolete phrase. Coach is coach is coach whether you're on an A319 a 777 or an A380.
Honestly, how is bigger more prestigious? You're in the same crappy coach seat surrounded by even more people?! Sounds like it sucks to me.
It's 777-200 G-VIIL, probably more likely featured as she's been refitted with New First, WTP and WT, product wise one of the flagships though the ad would have looked better with a Jumbo!
AirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 1906 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15803 times:
The problem with the 747, is that many of BA's long haul competitors at LHR have starting withdrawing them already, and are heavily promoting their A380s (SQ, QF, MH etc) so the use of a 747 would suggest BA have older, less advanced planes.The 777 doesn't have that problem, it's a large twin jet that looks like every other large twin jet.
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Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 23, posted (11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15667 times:
The 747 doesn't fit on Westminster bridge because of engines 1 and 4 (it would have touched the lamp posts), while the 777's engines are far enough in to clear all obstacles. Also the 747 is too heavy for the bridge on the main landing gear. These are the main reason why they used the 777, the 747 is still the flag ship.
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speedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15506 times:
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 23):
The 747 doesn't fit on Westminster bridge because of engines 1 and 4 (it would have touched the lamp posts), while the 777's engines are far enough in to clear all obstacles. Also the 747 is too heavy for the bridge on the main landing gear. These are the main reason why they used the 777, the 747 is still the flag ship.
Soren
THAT's what you don't find plausible!!!!
and I prefer the 772 as the flagship a/c
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25 skipness1E: Looks like they have used G-VIIL, and well done for using a real aircraft ! However the CGI shots have used a B77L model in the computer I suspect, he
26 rotating14: Indeed, I tried to delete the comment but.... spoke too soon.
27 warden145: Agreed completely...of course this is all subjective, but IMHO nothing says "flagship" like the 747, except the Concorde (and, in the pre-SST/747 day
28 skipness1E: Looking at skytrax, nothing says ancient like a B747. It's much better looking than an A380 but is becoming very uncompetitve on many routes against
29 b52murph: BA & AF have the distinction of having a true "flagship" in Concorde. And...just because it's retired doesn't mean that something replaced it as t
30 bristolflyer: Well their website has been revamped and the pic of the 747 removed, now a 777 on there.
31 warden145: With all due respect, sir, the quote you used from my post was incomplete...I specifically made an exception for the Concorde in my statement. Object
32 Bongodog1964: As has been said many times before the vast majority of passengers have no idea what they are flying on, many who categorically state the type of pla
33 mikey72: As where most of us can glance up to an aircraft 6 miles high and say ' oh there goes the 7X7 to XXX....strange...it's a 200 today and not a 300 ' No
34 Burkhard: It is a very bad photoshop. The wing is a 77L/77W, the body a 772, and has anybody ever seen that bridge empty? Could be used for the nice game "Find
35 goosebayguy: For me its still the Concorde which remain on BA's books though loaned to museum's. I shall aways remember arriving at JFK one evening to be greeted b
36 Bongodog1964: Desperately sad people who are posting on A net instead opf working !!!!!
37 babybus: At the moment BA are short of prestigious aircraft. What they have now are all workhorses. They were wrong not to have the A380 for this year. And it
38 grimey: That is one of the best Concorde pictures that I have ever seen. How old is the youngest BA B747 out there? With SQ having their last ever B747 fligh
40 CambridgeFlyer1: G-BYGG is the youngest 747 in BA's fleet, delivered in 1999.
41 mikey72: I'm sure they have taken heed of your admonitory advice for any future aircraft orders. I'm not sure where you're coming from though with 50+ 744's i
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