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BA LHR-PHX To Become Daily  
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10151 times:

http://skyharbor.com/pressreleases/BritishAirwaysAddsFlight.html

You can imagine how happy I am!    

What does this imply, though, for an AA/US Merger?

US Service increases?

More International service?

-Z


One of the FB admins for PHX Spotters. "Zach the Expat!"
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User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10093 times:

Wow its about time! Glad to see it.

Next up? PDX-LHR!

[Edited 2012-06-19 12:06:44]

User currently onlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9830 times:

Finally! This is great news for PHX. Their one and only trans atlantic flight is obviously doing well. I probably would have preferred to see PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers. 

[Edited 2012-06-19 12:52:56]

User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9765 times:

I love PHX....Great town!


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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6203 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9728 times:

Good to know the PHX-LHR fligts is performing well enough to warrant a daily service.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 785 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9530 times:
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How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.


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User currently onlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8053 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9479 times:

What is impressive with this route is that at the western end of the route, the city of Phoenix is generating all the traffic. Plenty of it may connect onwards - eastwards - beyond London, but BA have no codeshares or anything at PHX. And in any case they serve DEN with 777s and LAX gets 2-3 747s a day. So everyone flying west is ending their journey in and around Phoenix, and everyone boarding there is at the start of their journey - or Tempe, Tucson, Mesa, Scottsdale, Surprise, Flagstaff etc is as far as they've come. Very good work Phoenix (nice airport btw).


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User currently onlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9435 times:

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5):
How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.

I believe it was 6 times weekly prior to this - every day except for Wednesday.


User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 705 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9419 times:

Good for PHX and BA! There has been lots of talk internally of outsourcing the above-wing operations of BA at PHX (they do actually have their own staff there, while the below-wing is done by Servisair), so I hope that this is a sign that those jobs are here to stay.

Is the route continuing with the 744, or will we see the 777 return to PHX? It wouldn't surprise to see a slight downgauge of equipment if they're going daily.

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5):
How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.

Six days a week -- it doesn't operate on Wednesdays.



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User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9376 times:

Its a shame US does not want to start services to Europe from PHX...

I could imagine they would do very well on a PHX-FRA route, providing connections with LH for Europe and further east.

One or two A330's flying to the likes of LHR, CDG and FRA would be very nice!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9334 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 3):
I love PHX....Great town!

   It is!  I love Phoenix

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 2):
I probably would have preferred to see PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers.

I think it would make sense, especially with an A350/787, because of the codeshare connections possible here in PHX.

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5):
How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.

Doesn't operate Wednesday. Lands around 4:50, departs around 8:50.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 6):
So everyone flying west is ending their journey in and around Phoenix, and everyone boarding there is at the start of their journey - or Tempe, Tucson, Mesa, Scottsdale, Surprise, Flagstaff etc is as far as they've come. Very good work Phoenix (nice airport btw).

This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)

And yes the airport is nice   I might begin volunteering as a greeter in T-4 sometime soon  
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 9):
One or two A330's flying to the likes of LHR, CDG and FRA would be very nice!

There have been talks for years to get one of the A330s flying into NRT. The Japanese government would repeatedly give US the slot but they'd never take it. I'd expect a flight soon to NRT if this city continues growing. (There are a lot of Japanese businesses here) But I agree, I see PHX as a future Euro destination soon. Lots of stuff to see and do here too for the tourist  Wink

[Edited 2012-06-19 13:51:56]


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User currently offlineaztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 563 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9125 times:

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 2):
PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers.

I believe LH was going to start the route back up before the housing downfall. Once that happened they changed their minds.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 9):
Its a shame US does not want to start services to Europe from PHX...

I think US is eying Asia from PHX and willing to have their hubs back east take to the Eropean routes.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
There have been talks for years to get one of the A330s flying into NRT. The Japanese government would repeatedly give US the slot but they'd never take it. I'd expect a flight soon to NRT if this city continues growing. (There are a lot of Japanese businesses here) But I agree, I see PHX as a future Euro destination soon. Lots of stuff to see and do here too for the tourist Wink

I agree

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)

That is the truth. It takes me an 70 to 90 minutes to drive from east Chandler to Goodyear.


User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6203 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8848 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
Doesn't operate Wednesday. Lands around 4:50, departs around 8:50.

BA 289 is scheduled into PHX at 5:10 PM and the outbound (flight BA 288) is scheduled out at 7:25 PM. In the winter the flight arrives and departs later.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8759 times:

IIRC this used to be a daily service a while back. When did it last see daily service? I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8425 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773

I was not aware that it was ever a 773. (I assume you mean 77W).


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8396 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 14):
I was not aware that it was ever a 773. (I assume you mean 77W).

When the flight was a T7, it was flown on a 772.



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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8387 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773.

I am assuming it is a 744 each day as well...When was the last time a BA 772 was even in PHX?. I believe the 772 was when SAN and PHX first started back in 1996/97..



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8278 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 6):

I can't imagine if there is a AA US merger. Maybe even 2 flights


User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8259 times:

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 9):

There really isn't a need. Especially since there isn't any aircraft avaible. It's just makes sense for US to keep beefing up CLT and PHL


User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8221 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
IIRC this used to be a daily service a while back. When did it last see daily service?

It was daily from its start in 1996 until about 2005. I believe they cut service to 6x/week when it went from the 772 back to the 744.



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User currently offlineJOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
You can imagine how happy I am!

Daily flight makes it one more reason for me to take BA this fall from DEL-PHX. Just what I needed.. Scottsdale here I come! 



If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7391 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 14):
I was not aware that it was ever a 773. (I assume you mean 77W).

The first BA flight to PHX was on 1 July 1996. Back then it was a DC-10 operated with a tag-on (LGW-PHX-SAN-PHX-LGW). Soon (when?) the DC-10 was replaced by a 744.

The 744 flight to PHX and SAN operated until 24 March 2001. On 25 March the tag on was dropped and separate flights were operated with 772s to both PHX and SAN. The flight on 25 March (with no tag on) was operated by 772 G-YMMB. It was temporarrily named "City of Phoenix" and was greeted by the airport';s Fire Department:

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This aircraft retained its name for only just over two weeks. The same aircraft again flew into PHX three months later on the 5th anniversary of BA's inaugural flight to the city. It was again greeted by the Fire Department but was then nameless:

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On 27 October 2002 G-YMMA operated LGW-PHX (BA2289). The flight and aircraft were then transferred to LHR and 'MA operated its return flight as BA288 to LHR that same day.
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On 27 March 2004 the same aircraft operated the last BA 772 LHR-PHX-LHR scheduled rotation. The rotation was operated by 744 G-BNLB on 28 March and has been scheduled to be operated by 744s ever since.

So the development of this rouite has slowed significantly compared to its relatively rapid evolution between 1995 and 2004. No doubt this reflects the difficult economic climate since 2008. However now development has restarted with the upgrade to seven flights a week will there be any future developments? Perhaps the 380? Or a daily 772 and 787? Is a double daily 772 possible? Or even a daily 744 and 787? Or perhaps another operator will strart flights between PHX and Europe and BA will respond by downgrading its operatiuopns on the LHR route?


User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6413 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10):
This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)

I was really wondering when I was landing in PHX. I looked out the window and I just kept seeing city, more city, and some more city. I didn't know if it was all Phoenix or if it was other towns.

But congrats to BA and PHX for finally getting daily Euro service!



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User currently offlineJOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 22):
I was really wondering when I was landing in PHX. I looked out the window and I just kept seeing city, more city, and some more city. I didn't know if it was all Phoenix or if it was other towns.

Phoenix is huge, and can grow because of the endless desert around it, and there are already many suburbs around the city all of which from the air look like one big city....



If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3560 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5413 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):

What does this imply, though, for an AA/US Merger?

Nothing.

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PHX based
25 mop357 : Congrats for the city of PHX. I hope more international routes are to follow. I lived in PHX for a little over a year and moved back to NYC for a bet
26 FlyingHollander : I'm very glad the frequency is going up from 6x weekly to daily. Many times I had to travel on that one missing day. I also see another European airli
27 Post contains images PHX787 : All of the terminals at PHX just have a single-jetway layout per gate, which means if PHX wants a larger airplane (I'm surprised they can accommodate
28 LAXdude1023 : The South American community in Phoenix is tiny. Phoenix's Hispanic population is well over 90% Mexican. Only El Paso, San Antonio, and San Diego hav
29 Maverick623 : They do actually, but there's not enough A332s yet to start it (not to mention crew issues). In a recent newsletter, Kirby said they were looking at
30 wn676 : They've been saying that LHR would be first for a few years now. It's the nature of the transatlantic market from Phoenix and has nothing to do with
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