DesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 475 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8255 times:
Finally! This is great news for PHX. Their one and only trans atlantic flight is obviously doing well. I probably would have preferred to see PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers.
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7712 posts, RR: 55 Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7904 times:
What is impressive with this route is that at the western end of the route, the city of Phoenix is generating all the traffic. Plenty of it may connect onwards - eastwards - beyond London, but BA have no codeshares or anything at PHX. And in any case they serve DEN with 777s and LAX gets 2-3 747s a day. So everyone flying west is ending their journey in and around Phoenix, and everyone boarding there is at the start of their journey - or Tempe, Tucson, Mesa, Scottsdale, Surprise, Flagstaff etc is as far as they've come. Very good work Phoenix (nice airport btw).
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KGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7844 times:
Good for PHX and BA! There has been lots of talk internally of outsourcing the above-wing operations of BA at PHX (they do actually have their own staff there, while the below-wing is done by Servisair), so I hope that this is a sign that those jobs are here to stay.
Is the route continuing with the 744, or will we see the 777 return to PHX? It wouldn't surprise to see a slight downgauge of equipment if they're going daily.
Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5): How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.
Six days a week -- it doesn't operate on Wednesdays.
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 2): I probably would have preferred to see PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers.
I think it would make sense, especially with an A350/787, because of the codeshare connections possible here in PHX.
Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 5): How many times a week does the PHX-LHR operate? I thought it was already daily.
Doesn't operate Wednesday. Lands around 4:50, departs around 8:50.
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 6): So everyone flying west is ending their journey in and around Phoenix, and everyone boarding there is at the start of their journey - or Tempe, Tucson, Mesa, Scottsdale, Surprise, Flagstaff etc is as far as they've come. Very good work Phoenix (nice airport btw).
This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)
And yes the airport is nice I might begin volunteering as a greeter in T-4 sometime soon
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 9): One or two A330's flying to the likes of LHR, CDG and FRA would be very nice!
There have been talks for years to get one of the A330s flying into NRT. The Japanese government would repeatedly give US the slot but they'd never take it. I'd expect a flight soon to NRT if this city continues growing. (There are a lot of Japanese businesses here) But I agree, I see PHX as a future Euro destination soon. Lots of stuff to see and do here too for the tourist
aztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 401 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7550 times:
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 2): PHX-FRA open up again, but beggars can't be choosers.
I believe LH was going to start the route back up before the housing downfall. Once that happened they changed their minds.
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 9): Its a shame US does not want to start services to Europe from PHX...
I think US is eying Asia from PHX and willing to have their hubs back east take to the Eropean routes.
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10): There have been talks for years to get one of the A330s flying into NRT. The Japanese government would repeatedly give US the slot but they'd never take it. I'd expect a flight soon to NRT if this city continues growing. (There are a lot of Japanese businesses here) But I agree, I see PHX as a future Euro destination soon. Lots of stuff to see and do here too for the tourist Wink
I agree
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10): This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)
That is the truth. It takes me an 70 to 90 minutes to drive from east Chandler to Goodyear.
chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5972 posts, RR: 12 Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7273 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10): Doesn't operate Wednesday. Lands around 4:50, departs around 8:50.
BA 289 is scheduled into PHX at 5:10 PM and the outbound (flight BA 288) is scheduled out at 7:25 PM. In the winter the flight arrives and departs later.
BD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 598 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7184 times:
IIRC this used to be a daily service a while back. When did it last see daily service? I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6850 times:
Quoting BD338 (Reply 13): I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773
I was not aware that it was ever a 773. (I assume you mean 77W).
dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 703 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6812 times:
Quoting BD338 (Reply 13): I'm also assuming it will continue as a 744 flight each day rather than return to a 773.
I am assuming it is a 744 each day as well...When was the last time a BA 772 was even in PHX?. I believe the 772 was when SAN and PHX first started back in 1996/97..
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southwest737500 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 594 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6703 times:
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VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6628 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5734 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 14): I was not aware that it was ever a 773. (I assume you mean 77W).
The first BA flight to PHX was on 1 July 1996. Back then it was a DC-10 operated with a tag-on (LGW-PHX-SAN-PHX-LGW). Soon (when?) the DC-10 was replaced by a 744.
The 744 flight to PHX and SAN operated until 24 March 2001. On 25 March the tag on was dropped and separate flights were operated with 772s to both PHX and SAN. The flight on 25 March (with no tag on) was operated by 772 G-YMMB. It was temporarrily named "City of Phoenix" and was greeted by the airport';s Fire Department:
This aircraft retained its name for only just over two weeks. The same aircraft again flew into PHX three months later on the 5th anniversary of BA's inaugural flight to the city. It was again greeted by the Fire Department but was then nameless:
On 27 October 2002 G-YMMA operated LGW-PHX (BA2289). The flight and aircraft were then transferred to LHR and 'MA operated its return flight as BA288 to LHR that same day.
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On 27 March 2004 the same aircraft operated the last BA 772 LHR-PHX-LHR scheduled rotation. The rotation was operated by 744 G-BNLB on 28 March and has been scheduled to be operated by 744s ever since.
So the development of this rouite has slowed significantly compared to its relatively rapid evolution between 1995 and 2004. No doubt this reflects the difficult economic climate since 2008. However now development has restarted with the upgrade to seven flights a week will there be any future developments? Perhaps the 380? Or a daily 772 and 787? Is a double daily 772 possible? Or even a daily 744 and 787? Or perhaps another operator will strart flights between PHX and Europe and BA will respond by downgrading its operatiuopns on the LHR route?
Boeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 320 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4838 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 10): This city is huge, you'd be surprised when you come by here. You drive for 90 minutes to get clear across town (and it's still expanding.)
I was really wondering when I was landing in PHX. I looked out the window and I just kept seeing city, more city, and some more city. I didn't know if it was all Phoenix or if it was other towns.
But congrats to BA and PHX for finally getting daily Euro service!
JOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 428 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4048 times:
Quoting Boeing773ER (Reply 22): I was really wondering when I was landing in PHX. I looked out the window and I just kept seeing city, more city, and some more city. I didn't know if it was all Phoenix or if it was other towns.
Phoenix is huge, and can grow because of the endless desert around it, and there are already many suburbs around the city all of which from the air look like one big city....
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3036 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
What does this imply, though, for an AA/US Merger?
Nothing.
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No one cares when your next flight is....
25 mop357: Congrats for the city of PHX. I hope more international routes are to follow. I lived in PHX for a little over a year and moved back to NYC for a bet
26 FlyingHollander: I'm very glad the frequency is going up from 6x weekly to daily. Many times I had to travel on that one missing day. I also see another European airli
27 PHX787: All of the terminals at PHX just have a single-jetway layout per gate, which means if PHX wants a larger airplane (I'm surprised they can accommodate
28 LAXdude1023: The South American community in Phoenix is tiny. Phoenix's Hispanic population is well over 90% Mexican. Only El Paso, San Antonio, and San Diego hav
29 Maverick623: They do actually, but there's not enough A332s yet to start it (not to mention crew issues). In a recent newsletter, Kirby said they were looking at
30 wn676: They've been saying that LHR would be first for a few years now. It's the nature of the transatlantic market from Phoenix and has nothing to do with
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