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Jetstar To Start Singapore To Cairns  
User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 615 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6119 times:

Its been six years since direct service from SIN-CNS, but now Jetstar are starting the route.

There isn't too much information as of yet but there will be a full press release at the State Government's Destination Q conference in the far north Queensland city next week.

Full Story Here:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...esume/story-fn3dxity-1226401320541

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5932 times:

Presume this will be A320? A321 maybe?


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User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5518 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Presume this will be A320? A321 maybe?

Yes or maybe, all going well, an A332? We'll find out when they hold the press release!


User currently offlineBluebird191 From UK - Wales, joined Apr 2011, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5488 times:

I'm confused - havent they already been flying this route with a stop in DRW enroute in both directions, often with an A321?

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5488 times:

Using an A332 would require cutbacks somewhere else in the network... This will probably be an A320.

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 4):
Using an A332 would require cutbacks somewhere else in the network... This will probably be an A320.

I don't think an A320 would have the range to cover 3112 miles.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5633 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 3):
I'm confused - havent they already been flying this route with a stop in DRW enroute in both directions, often with an A321?

Yep which is why I'm thinking it must be an A330. They already fly the route 1 stop so I sincerely doubt that they are making a big song and dance about "launching" a six year old route which they never cut!

(Is there any possibility that an A320 could make it? I was under the impression that the answer was no)


EDIT - I'm going to answer my own question, I see on GCMap that CNS-SIN is 700mi longer than LAX-JFK. Therefore there is surely not a bat's chance in hell of an A320 making it

[Edited 2012-06-23 03:45:55]

[Edited 2012-06-23 03:46:50]


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User currently offlinebrad330 From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

I think the 332 capacity will come from AKL-SIN.

User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

332 is a big plane to fill but I hope you are correct. Big chance to fed into Cairns from lots of Asian destinations


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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 5):

Yah I realised that soon after posting... Perhaps this will be a mix of the one stop A320 via DRW and a couple of weekly nonstop A332's. They might even be able to squeeze a rotation in between trips to Japan if they cut the legs down to SYD to an A320 with an aircraft change in CNS.


User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1065 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

Quoting brad330 (Reply 7):
I think the 332 capacity will come from AKL-SIN.

Although I can't confirm it, but I don't think so. It has all along been operated with JQ aircraft and JQ crew with a 3K flight number that's all. Transferring the flight from JQ to 3K does not do anything to the schedules although the timings has been slightly altered by an hour.

Besides that, I'd really love to see a direct link between SIN and CNS again. Last time a there was a non-stop between the 2 cities were SQ with their A310s (correct me if I'm wrong) so it would be great if we see a non-stop flight once again!



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User currently offlinebrad330 From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Quoting initious (Reply 10):
Last time a there was a non-stop between the 2 cities were SQ with their A310s

AO 763's
QF 763's+747's


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8572 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4270 times:
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Quoting brad330 (Reply 7):
I think the 332 capacity will come from AKL-SIN.

That wouldn't surprise me. I think they are struggling on the AKL-SIN sector as they have a terrible reputation in New Zealand.



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User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Well Jetstar is down to 3 weekly SIN-AKL. Perhaps they'll send the A330 on the other days to Cairns.

Does anyone know the significance of the SIN-AKL service being JQ coded rather than 3K coded from 1 Jul?


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

Quoting initious (Reply 10):
Besides that, I'd really love to see a direct link between SIN and CNS again. Last time a there was a non-stop between the 2 cities were SQ with their A310s (correct me if I'm wrong) so it would be great if we see a non-stop flight once again!
Quoting brad330 (Reply 11):
AO 763's
QF 763's+747's

I don't believe CNS was ever served non stop from SIN. all previous flights, including SQ, MH, QF and AO were via DRW.
perhaps the time for non-stop is right.

Quoting Docpepz (Reply 13):

Does anyone know the significance of the SIN-AKL service being JQ coded rather than 3K coded from 1 Jul?

crewing. can use Singaporean pilots and crew.


User currently offlineJQflightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

JQ are moving a aircraft from DRW to CNS, so it looks like its going to be A320!


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User currently offlineandrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 14):
Quoting Docpepz (Reply 13):

Does anyone know the significance of the SIN-AKL service being JQ coded rather than 3K coded from 1 Jul?

crewing. can use Singaporean pilots and crew.

The SIN-AKL-SIN flights have always been operated by JQ pilots and 3K cabin crew but perhaps starting from 1st July these flights will be operated by JQ pilots and JQ cabin crew instead?

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 5):

I don't think an A320 would have the range to cover 3112 miles.

The Airbus A320 has a published range of 3300 nautical miles and even the A321 has a published range of around 3200 nautical miles but that's not to say they can be deployed economically on such sectors taking into account the need to uplift extra fuel for possible diversions on top of the legal minimum fuel reserve requirements and there is also going to be payload restrictions on such long sectors.

[Edited 2012-06-23 21:49:11]

User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5682 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Quoting andrewtang (Reply 16):

I don't think an A320 would have the range to cover 3112 miles.

The GC distance CNS-SIN is 2704 nautical miles and there are no ETOPS considerations..


Quoting andrewtang (Reply 16):
The Airbus A320 has a published range of 3300 nautical miles and even the A321 has a published range of around 3200 nautical miles

I think that 500 nm is sufficient margin to make A321/A320 ops both feasible and economic.

Gemuser
Edit for typo

[Edited 2012-06-23 23:16:39]


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User currently offlineDavidByrne From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 14):
I don't believe CNS was ever served non stop from SIN. all previous flights, including SQ, MH, QF and AO were via DRW.

I'm pretty sure that back in the days when QF flew from SIN to DRW and CNS, the flight some days was SIN-DRW-CNS and on other days SIN-CNS nonstop. Maybe someone else can confirm?



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User currently offlinegardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

QF did indeed fly SIN-CNS non-stop as well as SIN-DRW-CNS.This probably came to an end in the early 1990s after the Gulf crisis, if I remember well.

User currently offlinevhtje From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3603 times:
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Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 14):
I don't believe CNS was ever served non stop from SIN. all previous flights, including SQ, MH, QF and AO were via DRW.

The AO flight was non-stop, as was the earlier QF service already mentioned.


User currently offlineflying-b773 From Singapore, joined Apr 2001, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

I remembered.. SQ did non stop SINCNS on A310, think it was SQ239/240, while QF did non stop as well on the B767, coded QF61/62.. Similarly AO

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Quoting vhtje (Reply 20):

The AO flight was non-stop, as was the earlier QF service already mentioned.

I stand corrected.
it was 3pw with AO.

http://web.archive.org/web/200309240....au/flightinfo/ao_pdfTimetable.pdf
(thanks to the waybackmachine)


User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

The 31 March 96 QF timetable shows CNS-SIN (QF61) and SIN-CNS (QF62) being discontinued on 29 June.
My subsequent QF timetables show no more CNS-SIN nonstop flights.
Cheers.


User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1986 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2707 times:

I remember correctly and I am sure that there's only one flight from SIN-DRW-CNS by Qantas. No direct flight from SIN to CNS.


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25 Ditzyboy : QF061 CNS-SIN was daily and operated both non-stop (3pw) and via DRW (4pw) up to the mid 90s. I can give you exact frequencies when I get home next w
26 TN486 : Some snippets from past QF timetables as an addittion to the post from my very good friend 28L28L. Nov 92 - Days 124 and 7 CNS - DRW - SIN QF 61 767,
27 Ditzyboy : The only -800 flights to SIN have been the six CNS-SIN flights after AO closed and the PER-DPS-SIN flights. There has also been a handful of aircraft
28 brad330 : destination Q conference was held today, any news?
29 TN486 : Thank you for clarifying the issue re use of 74L, cheers.
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