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WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip  
User currently offlineav8orwalk From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 186 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10308 times:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06...onitor-500000-donations-video.html

What a great gesture on their part. This lady deserves so much more. According to a WN FA post on my Facebook page, they donated the airfare and Disneyland admission tickets to Ms. Klein and her family.

Cheers,
Drew MCO


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User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10216 times:

This is one reason I admire WN. That and the little things they do, like a birthday card in the mail or unsolicited help in carrying a bag when I had to use crutches when walking, or even something as minor as a full can of soda instead of the little plastic cupful justifies me continuing to give them my business.

User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9912 times:

Nice move, WN! They do their share of stupid stuff but in this case they got some good PR and did a nice thing!

http://theweek.com/article/index/229...ously-booted-off-southwest-flights


User currently offlinetraindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

The recent topic on outsourcing painted WN as a has been, out of touch and destined to fail.

This gesture is typical WN, and one of the reasons I fly them and admire them. The reality is that with WN, what you see is what you get. They are far more consistent in their product than any other U.S. carrier. Yes, their labor costs are high, but they will work it out. Is it a complaint that they pay their employees well?


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4301 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9790 times:

I think that this incident only highlights how generous people and companies like WN are. I saw a related news story about that poor lady. Over $350,000 and other gifts have been donated to this lady. Makes me smile. 


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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9410 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9716 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Thread starter):
What a great gesture on their part. This lady deserves so much more.

It's a nice gesture, but c'mon .... if Southwest wants to hand out vacations and people want to donate money for everytime someone gets taunted by kids, can we all cash in?



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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9551 times:

What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.


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User currently offlineAmericanAirFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 8883 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

At worst, it would only cost the airline a few hundred dollars...



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User currently offlineflyboi4life From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 8764 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 5):
It's a nice gesture, but c'mon .... if Southwest wants to hand out vacations and people want to donate money for everytime someone gets taunted by kids, can we all cash in?

  

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

  

Nothing against the lady BUT the media is JUST focusing on her yet thousands of kids are bullied EVERYDAY and nothing is done about it.
Prime example:: I cannot remember what state but I believe it was either Texas or California a teacher was fired and might be pressed charges for allowing all 24 students in her class to line up and slap the one student in her class that bullied all the students thru-out the entire school year. Grant I must say that was a bit harsh but atleast the teacher acknowledged that there was bullying and tried to correct it. Anytime a parent tells school officials that their child are being bullied, the school just responds that the parent is crazy, overreacting, and overprotecting their child. I know this from first hand experience several times. Most parents of children causing the bullying aren't diciplining their kids enough! Some even encourage it! This topic makes me sick!!!!
I Believe the money that has been raised should be used to bring awareness to the issue and be used to help STOP BULLYING!



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User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 8658 times:

The money collected for this woman's vacation has now passed $450,000. She could take a around the world trip in high style for that amount!

As far as Southwest goes, money cannot buy the kind of good will that Southwest will receive for that Disneyworld trip. It's a nice gesture on the behalf of Southwest. Let's just hope the woman is not a "person of size" or has a drink before getting onboard so she will not be deboarded because a ticket agent smells alcohol on her breath.


User currently offlinerduddji From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 8584 times:

The public has now donated over $550,000. I don't think she'll waste time in a cramped coach seat.  


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User currently offlinecanyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8394 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt

This is not the only donation or fundraiser for charity WN does. Every single Southwest station has a Charitable Giving Board that donates dozens...sometimes hundreds of free confirmed roundtrip tickets on Southwest each year to local charities for fundraising purposes. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8219 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.


User currently offlineGymClassHero From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8026 times:

Good for her. She definitely deserves it. Those children who bullied her are savages. Seeing bullying becoming more and more common, as well as more brash, makes me worry about the future generations of not just the US, but the entire human race as a whole.

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4605 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.

Some people's selfish/child-like dislike of a certain entity or person tends to cloud rational judgement I believe. Everyone should be commended for all charitable work that is done. Where it is to breast cancer research or the many community contributions made.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.

Outrage? Isn't that a little overdramatic? It's a publicity stunt disguised as 'goodwill gesture', plain and simple.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1378 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7519 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):


What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research!

Sure. But we can also very easily make the argument that Breast Cancer research is the most over-funded, under-resulted charity ever. It's just about the least dangerous cancer there is if you're talking about fatality rates but there is no end in sight to the amount pink washing going on for it. Does that make DL's (and AA's for that matter) pink airplanes a waste of time and money, or a cheap publicity stunt? No less so than what WN is doing here. I think we need to let it go and let this woman enjoy her well earned time in the sun. If WN wants to help, good on them. No doubt your friends at DL had a chance too...



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7296 times:

I admite Southwest more than any other airline. I still think most southwest employees try to do a good job and go out their way when passengers have problems, actually care about the airline, and respect it...... what legacy can you say that about?

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

It is your right to respect an airline for whatever is important to you and its your opinion....... but How much of deltas own money have they donated without gaining something or reducing liabilies aka miles? I know they let you donate your own earned delta miles. Their own website says Since 2005 (which is seven years time), Delta EMPLOYEES and CUSTOMER have raised a total of $3.5 million for The Breast Cancer Research Foundation but how much has delta given? I would respect delta alot more if they donated 3 million to breast cancer research themselves. I am pretty sure southwest gives alot more to charity than delta does. In just one year southwests one event raised $12 million for the ronald mcdonald house charity. I also think southwest is a ton larger than delta in offering free trips to people who need transportation for medical care, foster kids, and each station has free tickets they can give out to local causes and i think they get to select local small causes? Tell me im wrong but i think southwest does a ton more than most airlines and is getting less back. Delta lets you join the sky club and 10% of the sale go to chairty or donate miles which reduces their liability that also seems like a publicity stunt


User currently offlineTbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7267 times:
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How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

User currently offlineCapEd388 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6689 times:

Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip? No. At the end of the day the lady is getting a free trip and some vacation time courtesy of WN. Did WN do this for PR? more than likely yes, but call me naive, I would like to think that they actually care about the situation.

People are always saying the we need to be nicer to each other and that companies should give back more often. Then when companies/people actually give back they are met with cynicism and bitterness. This is what makes the world a darker place, having to deal with all these Debbie Downers that are always finding the negative in everything. Why cant we just commend WN for their efforts?

Does it really matter WHY a person/company donates? I dont think so. At the end of the day, the charity is getting a donation. If I donate $1 million to Toys for Tots, do my motives matter? It could be cause I sincerely care for the organization or it could be because I want to look good. At the end of the day, Toys for Tots is getting $1million that they can use to buy toys for children.

Obviously it is better that someone donates because they really care, but I frankly think that it is irrelevant.

Also, comparing WN and DL and seeing who donates more is rather immature. I think we can say that both carriers, along with others, give and donate to various charities and they should all be commended for it, but to compare and say that one is somehow better than the other, is narrow minded and childish.

If my neighbor donates $500 to a charity and I donate $5, is he a better person? No. What matters is that we both care and we are both trying to help in the best way we can.



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
Also, comparing WN and DL and seeing who donates more is rather immature. I think we can say that both carriers, along with others, give and donate to various charities and they should all be commended for it, but to compare and say that one is somehow better than the other, is narrow minded and childish.

If my neighbor donates $500 to a charity and I donate $5, is he a better person? No. What matters is that we both care and we are both trying to help in the best way we can.

You do make some good points and i hear you but a discussion turned childish is usual for a.net   your neighbor did help out alot more than you did he might not be a better person overall but he sure was more generous and helped out alot more  


User currently offlinesbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 848 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 20):
but he sure was more generous and helped out alot more

Not necessarily - if naighbour has $1,000,000 and donates $500 and you have $10 and donate $5 - who is in reality giving "more" of their spare cash to the charity?



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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6025 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

+1! While it is a nice gesture on WN's behalf, it's still PR. Of course, most charitable donations given by any corporation are PR or tax write-offs..

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 14):
Some people's selfish/child-like dislike of a certain entity or person tends to cloud rational judgement I believe. Everyone should be commended for all charitable work that is done.

If everyone should be commended, why hasn't Delta been commended for *also* donating charity? We can get into quantities and how much each entity has given to X amount of charity, but the truth still remains that Delta's breast cancer research donations remain pretty unknown to the general public.



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User currently offlinegingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 894 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):

How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

See watching the video damn near broke my heart, but possibly because I was bullied throughout my entire school life (mainly for the colour of my hair). I was subjected to being pushed to the ground and kicked causing internal bleeding a few times (I later found out I have a blood condition which possibly didn't help). All I got was a pat on the back with the words "it will be alright".
I probably am being a little cynical, but she's benefiting in a massive way from something many, many others have put up with and with worse consequences. A friend of mine was bullied to the point of committing suicide, but alas what do I know?

Good on WN for capitalizing. Nothing like a bit of good PR.

[Edited 2012-06-23 03:55:07]


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User currently offlineAirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip? No. At the end of the day the lady is getting a free trip and some vacation time courtesy of WN. Did WN do this for PR? more than likely yes, but call me naive, I would like to think that they actually care about the situation.

I think you are absolutly right!! After seening the video....she could use some time off....those kids were cruel and relentless, no matter what the motives WN have all that matters is some one deserving is getting a break!

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):
How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

wow....a new low...



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25 us330 : Because the thing a bus monitor wants the most on their vacation is to be surrounded by more elementary and middle school kids. Should've sent her to
26 RWA380 : It amazes me that children are so vicious, mostly the ones who don't get bullied themselves. The things that were said would have gotten me smacked a
27 tjcab : This is exacly what i was going to say. Its a win-win. Piggy-backing on the now very popular story, costinng them far less than if they had to come u
28 Tomskii : When I saw that video, I was shocked.. I remind you that that's one of the generations that will have to pay when I retire (Still many years to go tho
29 dashman : I am impressed by those everyday that stand up for those being bullied and do it because it is the right thing to do. Those that everyday donate to c
30 Post contains links and images MSNfan : Good for WN, a win-win for them. She definitely has received quite an outpouring of support from that video. Actually, it looks like that was over the
31 777STL : I agree. She got taunted by a few kids on a bus, she doesn't have terminal cancer. I'm not quite sure why people are donating thousands of dollars an
32 usflyer msp : She was not a volunteer. As a bus monitor it is her job to maintain order on the bus which is something, quite frankly, she is not capable of doing.
33 rwy04lga : They should make some of the stay-at-home moms do her job.
34 flyguy89 : A good move on WN's part, glad to see it. I wouldn't read THAT much into it. Bullying is nothing new and it's gone on for ages and the fact that child
35 Post contains images slcdeltarumd11 : Are neighbors usually in the same economical group? I dont remember driving thru a trailer park and seeing a mansion ever randomly being in the middl
36 zippyjet : Makes me feel good I'm part of this organization though we are still a subsidierary. WN seems to do it right. Last week they threw their annual award
37 brilondon : Just about any legacy carrier. I bet you that everybody can give an example of an airline employee going out of their way to help out and trying to d
38 tjwgrr : ....or to an all inclusive adults only resort like Sandals or Couples.
39 AviRaider : Where does it end? Don't get me wrong it was an utterly despicable act on the part of these kids and they should be punished for it, but the lady was
40 Post contains images Silver1SWA : What exactly is "bullying awareness" and what does the money go to? We are all familiar with bullying. Everyone experiences it to some degree. It's s
41 JBAirwaysFan : I don't know about that. I am so thrilled that Delta raises so much money for Breast Cancer research, I really am. However to minimize what Southwest
42 Post contains images atct : Just remember, no matter what you do in life, someone is gonna complain Kudos Southwest.
43 type-rated : I could never have a job like that. I would have twisted their little necks one by one until their eyes popped out of their sockets and then fed the r
44 Post contains images rwy04lga : Nothing more than ambulance chasers looking for a victim to exploit. Guaranteed gain for little effort. This video likely caught the attention of some
45 Darksnowynight : Again, what is the downside here? SGK, inc pays DL & AA to paint their planes pink here and there (and seriously, is there really anyone left, ev
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