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User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 563 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7660 times:

Well on vacation flew FL into SJU today while standing in the jetways waiting for my inlaws to deplane.
I struck up a conversation with the FL SJU agent.
Asked about any good rumors about WN and SJU.
The rumors are WN will have 6 gates at SJU.
WN will have service by year end 2012.
ADD service to MDW,DEN,HOU,STL,BUF,ISP, seasonal ALB,PVD and MHT.
30 flts a day and will become south American connection hub.
He said WN will also have a small MX base there.
He seemed really really excited to The forecast growth.
Wnfg   time for some rum ...


my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2192 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7621 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
,HOU,

Make sure UA doesn't find out! 

This is awesome! I was wondering when WN was going to make a move in the Caribbean! I wonder how B9 will react to this...



Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlineCompensateMe From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7596 times:

Boy, you're on a roll with the rumors lately  !

6 gates, 30+ flights, flights to South America & a maintenance base -- at an airport they currently do not serve (excluding service via FL)?   Instead of swapping those 717 for DL 738, as rumored, maybe they should opt for 747 instead  .



Gordo:like this streaming video,Sky magazine,meals for sale at mealtime-make customer satisfaction rank so high at UA
User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7590 times:

DEN-SJU is 2,733 miles... doubt that route will materialize.


My post is my ideas and my opinions only, I do not represent the ideas or opinions of anyone else or company.
User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6016 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7530 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 1):
Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
,HOU,

Make sure UA doesn't find out!

Why...SJU is domestic the proposed international gates at HOU that UA is against are irrelevant.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 1):
This is awesome! I was wondering when WN was going to make a move in the Caribbean! I wonder how B9 will react to this...

As B6 has lower costs than WN I would guess probably by kicking WNs but  

I would also be very leery of the OPs rumor...employees are almost always the last to know....



Semper Fi - PowerPoint makes us stupid.
User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 543 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

LOL

Asking a gate agent what HQ is planning is like asking Riley Martin about the future. Entertaining but nothing of substance.


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4606 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7405 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 4):
I would also be very leery of the OPs rumor...employees are almost always the last to know....

Yet somehow several seem to come true on here as well. Take everything with a grain of salt and then extend kudos to those that nail one.


User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7405 times:

Well, time to cancel some 737 orders and hop on the 788  

User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7405 times:

"Well on vacation flew FL into SJU today while standing in the jetways waiting for my inlaws to deplane.
I struck up a conversation with the FL SJU agent.
Asked about any good rumors about WN and SJU.
The rumors are WN will have 6 gates at SJU.
WN will have service by year end 2012.
ADD service to MDW,DEN,HOU,STL,BUF,ISP, seasonal ALB,PVD and MHT.
30 flts a day and will become south American connection hub.
He said WN will also have a small MX base there.
He seemed really really excited to The forecast growth.
Wnfg time for some rum ..."

What a pipe dream.

ISP-SJU? Almost laughable


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7389 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 6):
Yet somehow several seem to come true on here as well. Take everything with a grain of salt and then extend kudos to those that nail one.

Even a dead watch is right twice a day..



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3830 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
Wnfg   time for some rum ...

I'm sure the person that told you :

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
Well on vacation flew FL into SJU today while standing in the jetways waiting for my inlaws to deplane.
I struck up a conversation with the FL SJU agent.
Asked about any good rumors about WN and SJU.
The rumors are WN will have 6 gates at SJU.
WN will have service by year end 2012.
ADD service to MDW,DEN,HOU,STL,BUF,ISP, seasonal ALB,PVD and MHT.
30 flts a day and will become south American connection hub.
He said WN will also have a small MX base there.

has plenty extra.


User currently offlineJONC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

While I dont doubt that WN will be in SJU the time for a service announcemnet for a date that quick is fast approching its almost july. I wouldnt see more than a handful of flights to start though. WN never starts anything that huge. Id say MCO for sure. HOU to piss off UA. I dont see LAS but perhaps PHX. Well see. . . I know cargo already has an old AA facility staked out.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6222 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7258 times:

These are the most crazy WN r umors I have heard especially the SJU S. America stuff. Guess the sun is getting to those ramp agents.....and I guess you did ask him for rumors so he obliged.


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7249 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
ISP-SJU? Almost laughable

I have faith in ISP. It was recently classified as an official New York City airport and was supposed to be seeing an increase in service. If this route is started, will it be operated by a -700 or an -800?

BTW..... I am partially biased given that ISP is my local airport, but I still have legitamate faith that the airport can support itself.


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7219 times:

Considering the WN flight attendants just voted down a TA which allowed WN to fly outside the lower 48 I don't think it's going to happen in 2012. The pilots are in the same boat. Both work groups must reach another TA with WN and get approval of the membership.

User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7219 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):

I fell out of my chair when I saw ISP. You no what is even funnier... DEN. You can dream about it bit it ain't happing


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4606 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7154 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 14):
Considering the WN flight attendants just voted down a TA which allowed WN to fly outside the lower 48 I don't think it's going to happen in 2012. The pilots are in the same boat. Both work groups must reach another TA with WN and get approval of the membership.

Last I checked the FAs are the last group that need to approve it now.


User currently offlineAU795 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

The Pilots voted in favor of their side letter. The Flight Attendant union opened up another international/over-water survey for Flight Attendants today, but it is only open for 10 days, so I would imagine they will start another round of negotiations soon.

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1973 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7007 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
WN will have service by year end 2012.

I doubt it. Seems too soon.



My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineF9Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 698 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6853 times:

As stated earlier, DEN-SJU is quite a haul, and I doubt there is enough traffic to support it. SJU-ISP/EWR/LGA makes sense given the large Puerto Rican population in the NYC area. I would also expect to see SJU-BWI, SJU-BNA, and possibly SJU-FLL and SJU-HOU. That should be enough to keep about three gates busy.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3076 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6542 times:

Although I think most of the OP's post is a pipe dream, not all the cities listed are ridiculous. Seems to me ISP would be a good candidate for SJU service once WN is finally there. It's an existing station in a highly-populated region whose populace has a propensity to fly to places like SJU for vacations.

Is the ridicule of listing ISP due to its proximity to EWR? In other words, do most people think if there were to be NYC-area flights to SJU on WN, that they would most likely come from EWR instead of ISP?



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3372 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6486 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 4):
Why...SJU is domestic the proposed international gates at HOU that UA is against are irrelevant.

WN would need FIS at SJU for all the S America flights the OP indicated was part of his conversation with the WN employee.

I always chat up airline personal whenever possible, even my nurse in the hospital during my recouping from spinal fusion surgery, Her husband was 1 or 2 seniority at PDX for FA's with AS, She told me some things last year that came true this year. I'd say anything is possible, no matter how unlikely.

Quoting F9Fan (Reply 19):
and possibly SJU-FLL

Going ruff neck head to head with NK, I'm not so sure about this one. I can't see WN taking on that kind of bloodbath, which is why I see little future for FLL with NK being the "ants at the picnic" there right now, good airport to fly in and out of.



AA AC AQ AS BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OO OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WC WN
User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6016 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6485 times:

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 20):

Is the ridicule of listing ISP due to its proximity to EWR? In other words, do most people think if there were to be NYC-area flights to SJU on WN, that they would most likely come from EWR instead of ISP?

EWR would probably be a bit more likely to work than ISP however that would require WN to either find an additional slot or relocate one of its existing ones to SJU service. I don't think non-stop WN service to SJU from NYC is likely at this point as there are better uses for WNs slots at EWR....

Assuming that WN continues to fly to to SJU post FL ATL, MCO/FLL and BWI are likely their best bets. Passengers traveling on to other destinations can connect through one of those non-hub hubs (   ) and continue their journey.



Semper Fi - PowerPoint makes us stupid.
User currently offlineJONC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 21):

Going ruff neck head to head with NK, I'm not so sure about this one. I can't see WN taking on that kind of bloodbath, which is why I see little future for FLL with NK being the "ants at the picnic" there right now, good airport to fly in and out of.

Although I respect NK for at least sticking to a business plan and figuring out how to make money, I dont think WN is afraid to compete


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6016 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6452 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 21):
WN would need FIS at SJU for all the S America flights the OP indicated was part of his conversation with the WN employee.

Yes, and SJU has a FIS already btw...but I was responding to another poster stating don't let UA find out about HOU...as SJU to HOU is domestic FIS is not required and WN could have entered that market anytime that they chose in the past 30+ years.



Semper Fi - PowerPoint makes us stupid.
25 MaverickM11 : WN wouldn't stand a chance against B6 FL already flies BWI and FLL, although again, FLL against NK and B6 sounds like a disaster for WN
26 RWA380 : OK, I get it, my bad. I still think if true, it's amazingly ambitious of WN to pick SJU for a large operation. It didn't seem like AA was successful
27 Post contains images wnflyguy : Personally I think SJU should have been added years ago when Florida service was started. Also I see the stuff I was told as more of a long term plan
28 United1 : I don't think it will work which is why I don't put much stock in this particular rumor. I don't think they are afraid to compete but nor are they su
29 einsteinboricua : Still within range of the 737. If AA could fly SJU-LAX nonstop once a week, I don't see why WN can't fly SJU-DEN, whether nonstop or via another airp
30 avi8 : What about TPA? B6 and FL operate the route already. All that would be required would be to change the planes from FL metal to WN metal. I don't know
31 FlyASAGuy2005 : I think the point he's making is that it's a very long route to operate on low fares. Personally, I don't see it happening either. But seriously, ISP
32 spiritair97 : ISP has the potential. Being a long-islander myself, I can tell you that there is a very large Puerto Rican population plus all the vacationers who w
33 FlyingFan18 : As a long islander (say it with the accent. ;P) I would fly out of ISP if the price is right. I wish SW would make ISP bigger I can definitely see it
34 MaverickM11 : WN was in ISP before B6 ever showed up; people have voted with their feet and wallets. They prefer JFK/LGA.
35 FlyASAGuy2005 : I mean if they said BDL I would give it more credence as Hartford, from what i've been told, has the highest concentration of Puerto Ricans on the ea
36 usflyer msp : ISP-SJU would do fine, especially if they tagged it to another NE destination like BOS or BUF. There is a huge Boricua population on LI that they coul
37 idlewildchild : I hope the rumors are true and I wouldn't be surprised because they are cities that classical AA own for traffic to SJU. Go WN! Call me naive, but I h
38 United_fan : SJU-BUF sounds nice. Any idea when WN will be coming to ROC?
39 jfklganyc : Guys, WN is down to less than 20 flights at ISP from a high of 40+ at one point. I'd be less surprised if I heard a rumor that ISP was closing altoget
40 Tan Flyr : This all sounds nice...BUT you have to have a value oriented vacation destination to fill all those planes..and unfortunatly, right now SJU is NOT it.
41 chepos : Gate agents come up with all sorts of crazy rumors, half of those cities won't materialize anytime soon. When WN enters the market they will serve des
42 gizmonc : Pilots passed ETOPS flying and Near International and it was announced on JUN 13, 2012. The FA's at SWA just are going back to the table to work out
43 zippyjet : Probably something like SJU-MCO or TPA-DAL-DEN. I feel we should use FLL as a hub to Latin America or better yet, we should colonize MIA and give AA
44 FlyASAGuy2005 : True that. With the Peso as low as it is, Americans seem to be flocking to SJU.
45 Cubsrule : Something is wrong with this sentence - no Pesos in SJU . . .
46 usflyer msp : I think he meant PUJ.
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