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User currently offlineAirAfreak From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 716 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12525 times:
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When/Why did FAY (Fayetteville, NC) gain DC-9 Mainline Service? For as long as I can remember, I only remember Delta Connection operating this service.

Will other cities follow suit? Asheville, NC perhaps?


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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12330 times:

MDT has mainline service for the summer to ATL again. It usually runs Jun - Sep. Most of the time it is a MD-88 but once a week they sub a A319.

User currently offlineflybywire777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12306 times:

With AVL having now 10 daily 50 seat CRJ's to ATL for July, when do you upgrade the aircraft? This is also with the daily LGA flight back on line. The morning arrival and evening departure flights I take are packed.

User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 12050 times:

DL has a morning DC-9 departure from AVL on the schedule in September. Cities like AVL, FAY, MYR, CHA, etc... that have been DL Conx cities for several years could see M/L aircraft from time to time as they may fit in nicely for a/c utilization with the short turn-times to/from ATL instead sitting on the ground in ATL. Of course, as long as they could support the added capacity. Over the last few years, FAY has seen some scheduled MD-88 flights.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3034 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11918 times:

DL definitely seems to change a/c types from day to day. GSP gets a varying mix of DC9, M88 and CR7/CR9 (along with the obligatory CRJs) depending on the day of the week.


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User currently onlineQ From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11907 times:

Delta is upgrading ATL-BZN (Bozeman,MT) on a Boeing 757 non-stop.

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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11742 times:

Just a few that have historically been DCI..at least over the past 6 year and up to 2 years ago AGS (exception being the masters), GSP, TYS, FAY, HSV, OKC, ICT, DSM, GSO, VPS, PHF, CAK, PWM, MHT to name a few. Around 2006/2007 the likes of PWM, MHT, VPS, PHF were havens for the CR7. Hell I remember them sending CR2s to EYW.


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User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11653 times:

With the 717s on the way, I wonder if we will see the three big Western Canada stations go mainline from Minneapolis/St. Paul again (also Salt Lake City-Vancouver).

User currently offlinejetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2788 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11597 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 6):
Just a few that have historically been DCI..at least over the past 6 year and up to 2 years ago AGS (exception being the masters), GSP, TYS, FAY, HSV, OKC, ICT, DSM, GSO, VPS, PHF, CAK, PWM, MHT to name a few. Around 2006/2007 the likes of PWM, MHT, VPS, PHF were havens for the CR7. Hell I remember them sending CR2s to EYW.

Not necessarily. I remember mainline up to about 2007 in OKC. It disappeared until about fall of 2009. 3 daily right now, and I've heard rumors of SLC going to an A319.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11525 times:

Quoting jetmatt777 (Reply 8):

Youre absolutely right. GSO saw the same fate although it may have been later. Maybe 2008?



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User currently offlinerduddji From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11496 times:

CHA is also getting mainline to ATL.

That's the benefit of a superhub (the largest in the World) like ATL, is that you can feed enough pax through there to make a mainline A/C work.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11176 times:

Quoting rduddji (Reply 10):

I figured it was inevitable for CHA as this is the first summer its gotten a large RJ in the mix of high frequency CR2s.

[Edited 2012-06-23 09:36:55]


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User currently offlinecat3dual From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

PHF is all DCI once again. This move seemed to coincide with the drawdown of FL operations there.

Add ECP to the mainline list. A while back that was all DCI as well. Granted, that was at the old airport before ECP opened.

[Edited 2012-06-23 10:40:49]

User currently offlinebmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10940 times:

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 7):
With the 717s on the way, I wonder if we will see the three big Western Canada stations go mainline from Minneapolis/St. Paul again (also Salt Lake City-Vancouver).

Wikipedia shows YYC Calgary as having seasonal mainline from MSP, and regular year-round service using OH. If DL sees an increase in demand then they will adjust accordingly. But DL seems slow to change with Canada.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10813 times:

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 12):
PHF is all DCI once again. This move seemed to coincide with the drawdown of FL operations there.



Pitiful on Delta's part. PHF was getting a mix of DC9s, 88s, CR7s and CR2s at its peak. Now back down to all CR2s...

MLI also seems to be suffering from the "Delta only; no FL" syndrome. Was up to 5x daily CR7s now 3x CR7 and 2x CRJ in the middle of the summer. However, DL seems to be doing swell in DSM. Last year it was only 1 MD88, this summer they've got 2x 88 and 1x CR9.

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 12):
Add ECP to the mainline list. A while back that was all DCI as well. Granted, that was at the old airport before ECP opened.



Indeed. Before the ATRs retired, it was pretty much all turboprops to PFN.

MOB is another station that comes to mind. Has been a mix of CR2s and ATRs towards the end of their life.



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User currently offlineSmokinL1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10511 times:

Quoting rduddji (Reply 10):
CHA is also getting mainline to ATL.

When is that going to happen? Would love it, my youth is filled with DC9, D9S and 72S flights in and out of CHA. MD-80s came later, then the spiral down to Comair and ASA...


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10425 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10407 times:

It's amazing how many of these places were DL mainline before the airlines used regionals......CHA, GSO, AVL, TYS, PWM, MHT............we had a 727-200 flight that went SLC-OKC-TUL in the 80s and 90s.....we had 757s to YEG and YYC.....YVR was a 727, I believe.


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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10181 times:

When did BUF get mainline service to DTW, I know that they have it to ATL but at one time all they had was CRJ's running to DTW from BUF.


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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10019 times:

Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 3):
DL has a morning DC-9 departure from AVL on the schedule in September. Cities like AVL, FAY, MYR, CHA, etc... that have been DL Conx cities for several years could see M/L aircraft from time to time as they may fit in nicely for a/c utilization with the short turn-times to/from ATL instead sitting on the ground in ATL. Of course, as long as they could support the added capacity. Over the last few years, FAY has seen some scheduled MD-88 flights.

Myrtle Beach gets a 60/40 mix of MD88s and CRJs during the summer, and all CRJs during the winters months.


User currently offlinecat3dual From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9946 times:

EYW comes to mind, though it was mentioned above. The performance capabilities of the 10 737-700s we brought in made that happen.

DAB and MLB seem to be all mainline now as well.

This is only a preview of what is come in the near future with the 717, assuming all the cards fall in place.


User currently offlineiahworldflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

I remember taking a DL mainline flight from ATL to TYS back in 1987 on a 757 when those were relatively new in the fleet. Nice quick morning flight, I clearly recall the pilot announcing our flying time would be 28 minutes!
I hope DL will be able to return some Southeastern cities to mainline service.


User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9608 times:

Another set of markets that might be ripe for seasonal 717s are Wilmington, NC and Jacksonville, NC which gets a lot of beach traffic during the summer months for traffic to the beaches; US Airways tends to upgrade to 737s and CR9s on CLT-ILM in the summers and OAJ gets CR9s. OAJ is probably a stretch though.

On a personal note, I'd love to see something bigger than CR2s on DTW-GSP (used to be 4x daily DC9/D9S), but I'm not holding my breath.


User currently offlineSmokinL1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9453 times:

Quoting iahworldflyer (Reply 20):
I remember taking a DL mainline flight from ATL to TYS back in 1987 on a 757 when those were relatively new in the fleet.

I took a 752 flight TYS-ATL in early November 1987... a rather bumpy late evening flight, I was sitting in the first row behind the L2 door (with galley just ahead of L2) and one of the cabinet doors in the galley opened and plastic cups fell out and rolled down the aisle on climb out.

I wonder how much money was lost on these mainline flights back then compared to all the CRJ flights today.


User currently offlinetu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 682 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9209 times:

ILM-Wilmington, NC needs mainline service HORRIBLY!!!! From about April through October the beach/holiday crowds could fill at least 2-3 mainline a/c a day. At the very least the 90 seat RJs would be a welcome addition. Plus, ILM-LGA starts soon. USAirways is the only other carrier and they don't have a problem filling 737-300/400 and A319s to CLT along with E-170s. US also has RJs to PHL and LGA(soon to be DL). I dont understand why DL insists on the crappy 50 seat CRJs-maybe that is why US mainline to CLT is always full.


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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9172 times:

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 4):
DL definitely seems to change a/c types from day to day. GSP gets a varying mix of DC9, M88 and CR7/CR9 (along with the obligatory CRJs) depending on the day of the week.

Daily 737-800 as well. I think it spends the night here.


25 freakyrat : Maybe SBN-ATL with 717's especially on Notre Dame Home Football weekends.
26 Viscount724 : In October 1991 DL had 3 daily 757s and one 727 from YYC to SLC, plus a 727 nonstop to LAX and another to DEN. YEG only had one daily 727 to SLC. YVR
27 Post contains images airtechy : The last time I flew Delta from TYS to ATL was mainline.....in 1966 on a DC-7!
28 FlyASAGuy2005 : SBN has been getting mainline for 2 years now during the summer months to Atlanta. This year, 2x MD88,1x CR9 compared to 2x CRJ, 1x MD88 last year.
29 kmot : Delta seems to be adding mainline in a lot of cities... MOT now has mainline services. Daily A319/A320 which will be upgraded to a MD-90 this July. It
30 SWALUVFA : Looks like ILM will be getting mainline service from ATL sometime in October. It will be a RON D95 !
31 iowaman : DSM has been receiving a RON MD-88 from ATL which started this Spring. This is the first time in several years IIRC that DSM has had mainline to ATL (
32 dbo861 : MD-88 service on ATL-DSM actually started last June, minus a 2 month hiatus this winter. Now it's up to 2 MD88s daily and a CR9. Hopefully we'll see
33 redzeppelin : That's nothing new. ALT-BZN is a seasonal route that has seen a mix of 738 and 752 for quite a while.
34 GSPSPOT : I know that was the case until very recently. Haven't seen the 738 on Flightaware lately. But a quick check of GSP-ATL on delta.com reveals (from ear
35 teneriffe77 : SYR-ATL is going all MD-88 in the fall.
36 yellowtail : Those CHA flyers are loyal loyal to DL... Gotta love those 20 min flights. I think I used to remember 732s from there.... My youth too is filled with
37 Post contains images suseJ772 : Yes. But when will FWA get mainline
38 Post contains links rduddji : Here you go... Good news for me, because I spend a lot of time in CHA. Love that town. http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/m...-mainline-flight-to.htm
39 ocracoke : I don't think TVC has ever seen an MD-88 before. One of the 3 TVC-MSP flights this summer in on the MD-88, in addition to mainline returning (like the
40 SLCUT2777 : ...and if DL were to be successful in aquiring AS down the stretch, you can assume SLC will lose all trans-border service as it will be routed throug
41 mayor : And I believe it went on to LAX........I know the one flight we had to YEG, originated in LAX.........I remember at one time it was DL 1558.........b
42 PI734 : AVL could use mainline service again! A D95 a couple of times a day would be great to see instead of all the RJ's
43 AVLAirlineFreq : This will be the first DL mainline service for several of these markets since 1995, when ASA initially replaced DL MD-88s with the much-maligned (from
44 mayor : Bring Another Engine?
45 Post contains images SmokinL1011 : Thanks for the info! And whoa, D95 service...
46 burnsie28 : I guess the thing here is that NW used to run mainline to YYC, YWG, YEG, YXE, and YQR, the latter even saw some 753 service during the hunting season
47 FlyASAGuy2005 : Extremely...amid high fuel prices, the likes of CHA, AVL, CAE, VPS, etc has maintained very high frequency RJ service to Atlanta. Looking at tomorrow
48 FlyASAGuy2005 : You'll get your wish beginning September 5th using the Diesel-9 DL 1518 ATL-AVL 2045 - 2139 DL 1717 AVL-ATL 0725 - 0830
49 mayor : As did DL.......SLC-YYC/YEG/YVR and I believe DEN-YYC........also ATL-YYZ, IIRC........ALL mainline
50 GSP psgr : Also ATL-YUL (I seem to recall a mix of MD88s and 732s). Currently it's all CR9s (4x daily). Another route that would make a ton of sense as a 717 ro
51 planespotting : Would be nice if as 717s are phased in and all CRJ flying is phased out, stations like MLI are totally un-CRJ-ified (as that a phrase) and given two
52 mayor : Forgot about that one......I do believe that there was BOS-YUL before that (from the NE merger) and one or two routes from Florida to YUL.
53 DeltaL1011man : I believe ATL is going to bust its peak ML numbers this summer.
54 JBAirwaysFan : DAB was an all mainline station until June 1999 when RJs started becoming frequent in the airlines. MLB was too. DAB has been all mainline since last
55 tu154m : YES!!!!!!! But I checked the skd...............it is gone in Nov/Dec. Please tell me they aren't gonna say "well we tried mainline and it didn't work
56 JBAirwaysFan : I'm going to guess that DL doesn't have their final schedules out for Nov/Dec yet. Don't lose hope yet.
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