PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4973 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
Possibly could've been a charter. Weird landing at AZA and not Sky Harbor but it could've been the sandstorm that just blew through here. That thing was nuts driving home.
HA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 645 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1904 times:
If i'm not mistaken, I believe that is a prison charter chartering Hawaii dept of corrections prisoners to/from the prison contractor on the mainland. Hawaii has been cotracting out prisons on the mainland as existing prison space is tight in the islands. They've been doing this for quite some time now...albeit a political hot button issue.
HNLPointShoot From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
The Hawaii Department of Public Safety (PSD) contracts with Corrections Corporation of America to house prison inmates at the Saguaro Correctional Center and Red Rock Correctional Center, both located about 60 miles south of AZA in Eloy, Arizona. PSD seems to contract with SY for flights to transfer inmates between Arizona and Hawaii, so that's likely what this flight was.
93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1829 times:
Why not use Sky Harbor where Sun Country has ops? And the doj has ops?
Don't get me wrong, nice to see a 737 800 at Gateway anytime. Where did they park? I disnt see them
Over by the 5 Md 80s 3 doj/2 falcon justice flights apron. That apron is busy with the barons, 414s, the bae 146, neptunes
And the ( Pawnee/ agcat/ I don't know ... Thrush) fire suppression aircraft. The dc-10
Tanker is at gateway these days
Over by the crowded ramp...curious
sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1930 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1768 times:
SY does have a contract with DOJ to transport inmates. They also have had DOJ flights out of LAS to HNL. SY has become a good source of planes in the DOD/DOJ market. My guess is they are giving the Govt a better deal with 737's then other airlines with larger aircraft. SY has worked hard to get certified by DOD and get their ETOPS certificate for these flights.
dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 703 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
Aww the prison charters, used to see them fly in on MDs,737s,757s, and even once a 767
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 5): Why not use Sky Harbor where Sun Country has ops? And the doj has ops?
SY ops in PHX are seasonal... This is their off season right now... The DOJ do have operations at AZA
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 5): Don't get me wrong, nice to see a 737 800 at Gateway anytime. Where did they park? I disnt see them
All DOJ and ICE flights are done on the cargo ramp right next to the fire station... This is also where Air Force One parked a couple months ago and now the fire fighting aircraft park there as well.
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 5): Over by the 5 Md 80s 3 doj/2 falcon justice flights apron. That apron is busy with the barons, 414s, the bae 146, neptunes
Usually, there is a flight that leaves AZA at four or five in the afternoon going to south america and returns at one, two, or three am. But if space is full over on the cargo ramp there is former ATP ramp and also the ramp area on the other side of the parking lot near the terminal.
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 5): Over by the crowded ramp...curious
They used to do DOJ flights right next to G4 operations.
Quoting sunking737 (Reply 7): SY does have a contract with DOJ to transport inmates.
Don't forget Ryan Air.
Worked/Planned Loads on: CRJ-2,CRJ-7,CRJ-9,737-4,737-7,737-8,757-2,757-3,767-3,A319,A320,A330,MD83,MD90
sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1930 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 9): Wait a second........Are the SY planes ETOPS? How come they don't fly to Hawaii normally from somewhere?
yvphx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1176 times:
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 5): Why not use Sky Harbor where Sun Country has ops? And the doj has ops?
I for one, would not want to see several prisoners being led through Terminal 3 on their way to a SY flight to jail, and vise versa.
There is a very secure DOJ facility at AZA/IWA, so it makes more sense. I am sure landing fees are also cheaper, travel time to/from the jails are shorter and I am sure several other reasons!
je89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2327 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1068 times:
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Quoting cat3dual (Reply 12): Quoting mcg (Reply 11):
What do they do for inflight service on the prison flights?
Someone do a trip report.
Actually, there was an article in the Airways magazine detailing the logistics of such flights, but I can't remember the specific issue as it was published many years ago. Quite an interesting read though.
ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3492 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1068 times:
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 13): Hold on, let me go commit a federal crime in Hawaii. BBL
It doesn't have to be a federal crime. Remember, these flights from Hawaii are for the State of Hawaii. You just need to get sentenced to prison by the State court. Just remember to take some pictures of the interior of the aircraft.
rampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2854 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 840 times:
Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 19): There is something about a prison being near an airport... I hope background checks for employees are a little more detailed
it's more common than we'd suspect. It's an acceptable land use: no NIMBYs! I know there's a prison adjacent to EWR.
wn676 From Bosnia and Herzegovina, joined Jun 2005, 847 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 792 times:
Quoting yvphx (Reply 14): I for one, would not want to see several prisoners being led through Terminal 3 on their way to a SY flight to jail, and vise versa.
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