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Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 9  
User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 48771 times:
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Part 8 is getting longer and longer, so here is part 9. Enjoy.

Here the link to part 8:

Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 8 (by SA7700 Jan 12 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 48759 times:

How many 8is have been delivered to LH?


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 48743 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
How many 8is have been delivered to LH?

Only 1: D-ABYA, but D-ABYC will follow soon. It was planned end of June, but slightly delayed.

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User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 48338 times:

LH seems to only have scheduled 74H flights FRA-IAD until end of October. After this date it shows 744. Does anyone know when LH will update the system with more 74H flights? And the new services to LAX ORD DEL BLR to be operated by the 74H?


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 48287 times:
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Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Reply 3):

End of October the winter schedule starts, so I guess it is simply not loaded into the system yet.

Once the next airplane arrives, rumors say it will fly to DEL daily... But not confirmed.

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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10631 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 48208 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
Once the next airplane arrives, rumors say it will fly to DEL daily... But not confirmed.

Lets hope so, as I´m flying to India again in a few months time.


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 48162 times:
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Quoting na (Reply 5):
Lets hope so, as I´m flying to India again in a few months time.

Yes, we hope so as well. And hopefully the next frames show up on time in FRA...   

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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 48060 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
Once the next airplane arrives, rumors say it will fly to DEL daily... But not confirmed.


And Bangalore? I heard rumors of Bangalore.

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User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 47457 times:

LH #2 747-8i Flying out tonight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH9875

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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 47438 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 6):
Yes, we hope so as well. And hopefully the next frames show up on time in FRA...

Forgive me if this has been asked for and/or you're not allowed to answer, but have you done any -8i flights yet?



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 47437 times:

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 8):
LH #2 747-8i Flying out tonight.

Alright!    congrats to Boeing and LH for gettin' this done!



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 47313 times:

Will D-ABYC be booked as a June or July delivery?

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 47274 times:

D-ABYC just departed (02.01 PDT) Paine Field (KPAE) towards Frankfurt (EDDF).

After arriving at FRA/EDDF the aircraft will be scheduled for Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) at Lufthansa Technik, before entering commercial operation in a few weeks time.

Full aircraft data :
L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012.



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 46707 times:

Did RC004 deliver on 29 June? If it did, then it should fly away to a mod shop today (2 July).

RC558 has a B-3 flight scheduled for today. She is supposed to be delivered on 13 July. There are three more deliveries scheduled for July: freighters for TLS and NCA, and DLH's 3rd 747-8i.


User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 46609 times:

Sending five 747's on their way should clear up some space at the airfield.

It still looks like the 747 deliveries are going to outpace the 787 deliveries.



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 46604 times:

Delivery flight of D-ABYC, landing at EDDF/FRA, July 01-2012

Original uploaded by CAC Photography - (IIyama1910), for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/32090718@N05/7481399490/


Also an interesting picture of RC601, one of the early produced airframes, now in refurbishment for delivery, emerged on Matt Cawby's KPAE blog.
In this picture RC601 is visible in building 40-24. The aircraft is jacked for stress relief at both wing roots and at the tail.
Is this done to change some (structural) wing root or fuselage parts to increase the operating weights and/or OEW reduction ?

http://paineairport.com/kpae5202.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery.

[Edited 2012-07-02 08:32:52]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 46255 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 15):
Also an interesting picture of RC601, one of the early produced airframes, now in refurbishment for delivery, emerged on Matt Cawby's KPAE blog.
In this picture RC601 is visible in building 40-24. The aircraft is jacked for stress relief at both wing roots and at the tail.
Is this done to change some (structural) wing root or fuselage parts to increase the operating weights and/or OEW reduction ?

Just a guess, but RC601 might be jacked up for a gear swing test.

She should be emerging from the 40-24 this weekend, and then the 40-24 will only be used as the 787 surge line for the foreseeable future.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 45862 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 13):
Did RC004 deliver on 29 June? If it did, then it should fly away to a mod shop today (2 July).

RC004 delivered on 29 June. Flyaway date and time is TBD.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 45381 times:

Due KPAE Runway 16R/34L closure (final phase of runway rehabilitation project) from July 03 - 04.00PM till July 09 08.00AM we will (probably) see no deliveries in the next few days.

See page 2/4 : http://www.painefield.com/pf_pdf/PAE..._%20Runway_Closure_Calendar_v4.pdf

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On Matt Cawby's July 03 Everett flight line video the last assembled 747-8 Intercontinental is clearly visible.
LN 1459, RC006

Screen shot, elapsed time 23 seconds, see :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14qA3L3amWg&feature=player_embedded

The unpainted aircraft , in the middle, with white rudders, must be L/N 1459 - RC006 a new 747-8I/BBJ.

Could this be 747-8LQ, serial number 41060, test registration N455BJ ????

Note : The same aircraft was already noticed at June 30, but partly obscured by other aircraft, see at the back :
http://paineairport.com/kpae5198.htm



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 45356 times:

Is that a B52 in that picture? What does it do at Everett?

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 45332 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 19):

B-52 belongs to Museum of Flight. If you look closely at Cawby's pictures you can often see the #1 727 and a Comet which are also part of the museum.



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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 45121 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 19):
Is that a B52 in that picture? What does it do at Everett?

Sits there and does very little.

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 20):
B-52 belongs to Museum of Flight.

I think, technically, it still belongs to the USAF, but it's definitely under the care of the Museum of Flight restoration group. Last time I went around it nobody was doing any work so it may be a future project for them.

Tom.


User currently offlineKDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 45094 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 21):
I think, technically, it still belongs to the USAF, but it's definitely under the care of the Museum of Flight restoration group. Last time I went around it nobody was doing any work so it may be a future project for them.

A little off topic but there is a second museum B-52 at the USAF Museum at Dayton. It is a G model that took a SAM and had about 300 shrapnel holes in it.

Excellent new about the 2nd LH delivery!!!!


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 45061 times:
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Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 21):
I think, technically, it still belongs to the USAF, but it's definitely under the care of the Museum of Flight restoration group. Last time I went around it nobody was doing any work so it may be a future project for them.

That's correct USAF retains title & control is with the USAF Museum at Wright Patterson... I've been keeping an eye on that 52 for some years now and I've not seen any major work done on it.

I'm curious how they plan on getting the 52 & the Comet down to Boeing Field... I know what the plan is for the 727, but they don't seem to be making a lot of progress....



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User currently offlineqblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 45002 times:

One of the YVR rampers told me that they have a new 747-8F arriving from Boeing Friday 13Jul at 1500 overnight, load cargo and depart 14Jul 0800.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 45000 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 18):
The unpainted aircraft , in the middle, with white rudders, must be L/N 1459 - RC006 a new 747-8I/BBJ.

Could this be 747-8LQ, serial number 41060, test registration N455BJ ????

Yes, it is. She is destined for a VVIP customer on a day TBD.

LN 1460, 1461, and 1462 are now in the 40-22 final assembly line.


User currently offlineatlengineer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 44911 times:

Quoting KDAYflyer (Reply 22):
A little off topic but there is a second museum B-52 at the USAF Museum at Dayton. It is a G model that took a SAM and had about 300 shrapnel holes in it.

There are actually lots of displayed B-52's still left around the world. See the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...splayed_Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress

ATLengineer


User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 45482 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 23):
I'm curious how they plan on getting the 52 & the Comet down to Boeing Field... I know what the plan is for the 727, but they don't seem to be making a lot of progress....

....Or where the would put the '52 and the Comet down there. They'll need to expand the parking lotairpark if they're going to fit anything else at Museum of Flight. Wouldn't be so bad to put these planes indoors either, though I don't know that there's a budget for that.

A photo to share of D-ABYC at PAE before delivery (pardon the self plug):


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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2838 posts, RR: 12
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 45414 times:

Quoting cargolex (Reply 27):
....Or where the would put the '52 and the Comet down there. They'll need to expand the parking lotairpark if they're going to fit anything else at Museum of Flight. Wouldn't be so bad to put these planes indoors either, though I don't know that there's a budget for that.

Doubt there's any room to do that at the airpark. Not since they built the building that will house the Shuttle Trainer. They found room for the shrink wrapped B-29 that's on the north side of the main museum so I think they'll find room should they ever want to bring it over to BFI. They could always remove some of the vehicle parking area on the east side.

Anyway, back on topic. I'm sure it's been posted before in these threads but it might be nice if there's a link to the projected delivery schedule that's included at the start of each new thread.



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 45379 times:

According the latest Boeing delivery list (updated today) , two 747-8 aircraft are delivered in June. Total delivery count in 2012 is 13 aircraft. Total count is 22. (2011 and 2012).

Below is the official Boeing 747-8 delivery list :
747-8 Delivery status incl. June 2012


RC004/HZ-HMS1 is accepted at June 29 (still to be delivered ).
RC023/D-ABYC is accepted at June 30. (and actual delivered at July 01)

[Edited 2012-07-05 12:11:19]


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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 45302 times:

747Classic, are you making a monthly status for the 747 program as you did last month? (think it was June 2nd)

User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 45077 times:

Quoting cargolex (Reply 27):
Or where the would put the '52 and the Comet down there. They'll need to expand the parking lotairpark if they're going to fit anything else at Museum of Flight.

They're already working on it. The building under construction to the north of the airpark is the new home of Aviation High School; the space between that building and the airpark is, eventually, all supposed to be covered airpark.

Tom.


User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 44666 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 31):
the space between that building and the airpark is, eventually, all supposed to be covered airpark.

That was what I had figured. There simply isn't any more room in the existing space, which is a bit of a compromised space anyway, and that land is just dead space at the moment. They're already talking about adding ZA003, which definitely will not fit in the current airpark, so I had a hunch they were working on a solution.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 44672 times:

Deliveries currently on the schedule for the last half of July:
LN 1431 first -8F for NCA
LN 1453 third -8i for DLH
LN 1457 -8F for CAT
LN 1458 -8F for TLS


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 44497 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 29):
Below is the official Boeing 747-8 delivery list :

weird question:
If all of the 748iBBJs are heading for Oil moguls, why are they listed in the U.S.A. section of "country?"
Is one of them secretly the new AF1 ?        



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2838 posts, RR: 12
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 44450 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 31):
They're already working on it. The building under construction to the north of the airpark is the new home of Aviation High School; the space between that building and the airpark is, eventually, all supposed to be covered airpark.

Thanks Tom. Even the museum doesn't advertise that. They just recently opened the original 747 prototype "City of Everett" for tours during the weekends. Interesting to compare that aircraft with the 747-8 I saw during the Boeing tour a few weeks ago.



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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 44432 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34):

I don't know if this has anything to do with your question, but I think Boeing Business Jet is a separate entity withing the Boeing Company. So, when Boeing commercial delivers a BBJ, it is actually "delivering" the plane to a Boeing entity which is a US company. Very similar to when they deliver a "green" airplane to Boeing Military for mod. The delivery occurs . . . but the company still owns it.

In case of the BBJ, it may just be a paperwork thing and the transfer from BCA to BBJ to the final customer may be near instantaneous.

Just guessing . . .

bt



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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 44309 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 35):
They just recently opened the original 747 prototype "City of Everett" for tours during the weekends.

What?! Figures that, weeks after I leave Seattle, they open that thing up after lusting after getting onboard for 7 years...

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 36):
I don't know if this has anything to do with your question, but I think Boeing Business Jet is a separate entity withing the Boeing Company.

It is. BCA delivers to BBJ.

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 36):
In case of the BBJ, it may just be a paperwork thing and the transfer from BCA to BBJ to the final customer may be near instantaneous.

It's not instantaneous. BCA delivers a green airplane to BBJ. BBJ works with the customer to get the interior done at one of the BBJ completion centers; transfer of ownership happens somewhat later.

Tom.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 44095 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 37):
It's not instantaneous. BCA delivers a green airplane to BBJ. BBJ works with the customer to get the interior done at one of the BBJ completion centers; transfer of ownership happens somewhat later.

How many completion centers are there?



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User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 827 posts, RR: 14
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 43822 times:

Quoting qblue (Reply 24):

One of the YVR rampers told me that they have a new 747-8F arriving from Boeing Friday 13Jul at 1500 overnight, load cargo and depart 14Jul 0800.


Yes it's the CX jet, first time for CX to do a freight run on a delivery flight.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 43794 times:

Forgive me, I haven't been following this thread too closely but how is the production of the 748s going? Are they happening at a normal pace and order yet? Or do they have a backlog of planes needing change incorporation like the 788s?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30537 posts, RR: 84
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 43801 times:
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Quoting United787 (Reply 40):
Forgive me, I haven't been following this thread too closely but how is the production of the 748s going?

The production rate has been raised at two per month. I expect there is change incorporation going on, especially with the earlier freighters, but it looks like the frames now coming off the line do not need anything beyond the normal open jobs one would expect.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 43847 times:

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (July -07-2012)

40 Completed airframes , 22 delivered (marked : @ )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, "City of Esch-sur-Alzette", Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSAE-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery,”City of Ettelbruck”, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, KPAE flight line.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special “Hong Kong Trader” livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), stored : KPAE flight line.

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB, KPAE flight line, expected to be delivered at request of NCA in July 2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, stored : Tower Apron at KPAE.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange “Boeing Sunrise” livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, presently in refurbishment to delivery standard, with engines removed, at KPAE flight line.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, stored at KPAE Flight line, with engines removed, awaiting refurbishment to delivery standard. Scheduled delivery date September-30-2012.

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, “City of Luxembourg”, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Runway 11-29 at KPAE.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line.

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, thereafter cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May 24, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, will be stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011.

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011.

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, “Brandenburg”, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011.

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29 2012, white livery, KPAE flight line. Scheduled to be ferried to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, full livery, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date July-31-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, named : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, named “Spirit of Panalpina”, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, Scheduled delivery date August-30-2012.

L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, unpainted, KPAE flight line, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, expected delivery date : July 13 2012.

L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, N851GT, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery July 2012.

L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ ? , RC006, serial number 41060?, (unknown)BBJ customer, N455BJ ?, unpainted with grey/white rudders, KPAE flight line, will be delivered “green” in 2012.


At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
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L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, slant position #1.
L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux#6, registration LX-VCF, slant position #2
L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37567?, Atlas Air #9 (leased Panalpina ?), body join position, expected delivery Sept-2012.
L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, wing join position.


Airframes (20), scheduled for Final Assembly
(all subject to change, L/N 1482 and 1483 have incomplete data).
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L/N 1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serialnumber 39246?, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ
L/N 1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, registration LX-VCG
L/N 1466 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC007
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, Atlas Air #10
L/N 1468 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC008
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, Cargolux #8
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, KAL#3
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery*June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, Cargolux #9
L/N 1479 - 747-8B5F, RC548, KAL #4
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10,D-ABYK, scheduled delivery*July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36140, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1482 - 747-8**F, RC845 ?
L/N 1483 - 747-8**F, RC631, customer CGC ??? perhaps : GECAS 747-86NF ?

All data are double checked, or otherwise marked :
? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
** = unknown Boeing customer code.

A-netters, Pls forward corrections and/or additions by thread reply or personal message.

Peter.

[Edited 2012-07-07 10:24:38]


Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 43623 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 42):
Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

Does this normally take this long for a 747BBJ?

Quoting 747classic (Reply 42):
@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012.

Where is LH #1 ?



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 43590 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 43):
Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.
Does this normally take this long for a 747BBJ?

   Yes


Quoting PHX787 (Reply 43):
Where is LH #1 ?

LH #1 = the first produced Lufthansa 747-830 with tabulation number RC021.
This aircraft is stored at KPAE and will be delivered after refurbishment has finished, see L/N 1435 in the listing for all data,



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 43230 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 44):
Where is LH #1 ?

Do you mean the first 747-8i ("Intercontinental") delivered to DLH? That would be RC022. She is currently plying the route between FRA and IAD, I believe.


User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 43200 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 45):

Do you mean the first 747-8i ("Intercontinental") delivered to DLH? That would be RC022. She is currently plying the route between FRA and IAD, I believe.

That is LH #2. LH #1 was was used as a test aircraft, and needs refurbishment prior to delivery. LH #1 refers to the first one built, not the first one delivered.

[Edited 2012-07-08 07:33:19]


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 42980 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 38):
Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 37):
It's not instantaneous. BCA delivers a green airplane to BBJ. BBJ works with the customer to get the interior done at one of the BBJ completion centers; transfer of ownership happens somewhat later.

How many completion centers are there?

Fifteen. Go to http://www.boeing.com/commercial/bbj/ and click on Design Centers > Completion Centers for the list.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 43):
Quoting 747classic (Reply 42):
Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

Does this normally take this long for a 747BBJ?

Sort of. The number of 747BBJ's is very low and there is a lot of variance between interiors. The general range of 1-2 years is about right. Think of it as being equivalent to doing the complete interior of a very large yacht (that size & build complexity), then pile on top the requirement to certify all of it.

Tom.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 48, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 42578 times:

KPAE RW16R/34L has been re-opened at 08.00AM July 09.


747-8 delivery and test flights started immediately.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RC004/N458BJ has been actually delivered, after customer acceptance at June 29.

Delivery flight from Paine Field KPAE to Vancouver (CYVR) for customs (owner papers transfer) and the aircraft will proceed further towards San Bernadino (KSBD)
See : http://nl.flightaware.com/live/flight/N458BJ

Storage at San Bernadino, awaiting to be ferried to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin ??
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RC558/B-LJH left Paine field for another (customer ??) test flight, heading for Moses lake (KMWH)
See : http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...8/history/20120709/1730Z/KPAE/KMWH



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 49, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 42497 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 48):
RC558/B-LJH left Paine field for another (customer ??) test flight, heading for Moses lake (KMWH)

Another? According to my records, this is the first customer flight for RC558. There were two or three flights by Boeing pilots previous to this flight.

If all goes well today, then the airplane should be delivered on (shudder) Friday the 13th.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 50, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 41754 times:

RC578/N851GT is visible at the KPAE flight line in full Panalpina livery :

http://paineairport.com/kpae5220.htm

Full aircraft data :
L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, N851GT, Panalpina livery, KPAE flight line, expected delivery July 2012.



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2686 posts, RR: 25
Reply 51, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41731 times:

Question: what's the status of the first QR - VVIP B 748i delivered some months ago? As far as I know it's not yet in Hamburg for cabin outfitting at LH Technik.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3383 posts, RR: 26
Reply 52, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 41563 times:
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Quoting N14AZ (Reply 51):
first QR - VVIP B 748i

wasn't going to have aerolofts installed and maybe an elevator before going your way?


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 53, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 41540 times:

The delivery date for DLH's 3rd 747-8i (RC024) has slid about a month. There are some small issues with the airplane that need to be resolved. No big deal, really, but delivery is now looking like the 3rd week in August.

RC558, on the other hand, is still looking to be delivered to CAT on 13 Friday.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 54, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 41156 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 50):
RC578/N851GT is visible at the KPAE flight line in full Panalpina livery :

http://paineairport.com/kpae5220.htm

Full aircraft data :
L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, N851GT, Panalpina livery, KPAE flight line, expected delivery July 2012.

Had its first flight yesterday


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 55, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 40910 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 53):
RC558, on the other hand, is still looking to be delivered to CAT on 13 Friday.

RC558 has been delivered to CAT and has filed a flight plan:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3337


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 56, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 40628 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 55):
delivered to CAT

What's CAT here?


User currently offlinenra-3b From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 40641 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 56):
What's CAT here?

Obviously he means Cathay Pacific or CX or CPA.........

CAT is Civil Air Transport, a company I was associated with about 40 years ago   

They no longer exist, run out of business by the retired RoCAF generals at China Airlines.........   

Anyhow,
Cheers,
Bob


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 58, posted (2 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 40123 times:

Looks like 747-8 deliveries are starting to heat up. When will they get through the inventory of aircraft still sitting at Everett?


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 59, posted (2 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 39903 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 56):
What's CAT here?

CAT is probably Boeing's code for Cathay. 'Laddie' may be able to confirm for you, unless he's just making them up!  


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 60, posted (2 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 39553 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 59):
CAT is probably Boeing's code for Cathay.

CAT is indeed what Boeing uses. Sorry for the confusion.


User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 39538 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 53):
The delivery date for DLH's 3rd 747-8i (RC024) has slid about a month. There are some small issues with the airplane that need to be resolved.

Does that mean DLH will get 2 747-8's in August?

UAL747-600


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 62, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 39402 times:

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 61):
Does that mean DLH will get 2 747-8's in August?

I don't think so. The only other 747-8 on the delivery schedule for August is RC546 for KAL.

Here's the way I see the deliveries for July and August:
Last week in July: RC578 for TLS and RC523 for NCA.
Last week in August: RC024 for DLH and RC546 for KAL.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10631 posts, RR: 9
Reply 63, posted (2 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 39249 times:

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 61):
Does that mean DLH will get 2 747-8's in August?

No. One in August, two in September. The next two then in early 2013.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 64, posted (2 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 39140 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 60):
CAT is indeed what Boeing uses. Sorry for the confusion.

No probs, good you let the CAT out of the bag  
* leaves

Wonder if and when we can expect to see these beauties at Heathrow now they have so many delivered.


User currently offlineSQ22 From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 2 days ago) and read 38221 times:

I heard a rumour that the delivery date of L/N 1435 LH#4, registration D-ABYE, has been postponed to 2013.

Can anone confirm/correct this rumour?


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (2 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 37777 times:

Quoting SQ22 (Reply 65):
I heard a rumour that the delivery date of L/N 1435 LH#4, registration D-ABYE, has been postponed to 2013.

No idea, but just a week ago she was looking a little miserable tucked away at the other end of the field.


Larger version here


User currently offlineSQ22 From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 37159 times:

Nice pic. 

I heard that Boeing has asked Lufthansa to postpone the delivery and Lufthansa agreed, hence a 744 which should be phased out in 2012 will remain a bit longer in the fleet.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 68, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 36836 times:

When will KZ get their first 748F? I'll be in Tokyo on Friday and I was hoping I'd get a glimpse of a 748 during my time at NRT


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 69, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 36401 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 68):
When will KZ get their first 748F?

A delivery ceremony for RC523 is scheduled for 25 July. I do not know when the airplane flies away to enter service.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 70, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 36333 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 69):
A delivery ceremony for RC523 is scheduled for 25 July. I do not know when the airplane flies away to enter service.

Oh wow, I'm flying into NRT on July 27, so maybe I'll see it at the cargo ramp.

Congrats to KZ   



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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 36353 times:

Quoting SQ22 (Reply 65):
I heard a rumour that the delivery date of L/N 1435 LH#4, registration D-ABYE, has been postponed to 2013.
Quoting flood (Reply 66):
No idea, but just a week ago she was looking a little miserable tucked away at the other end of the field.
Quoting SQ22 (Reply 67):
I heard that Boeing has asked Lufthansa to postpone the delivery and Lufthansa agreed

To me it appears, Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.

Maybe they figured out they have to pay the smallest amount of damage fees, given the discount LH received....


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30537 posts, RR: 84
Reply 72, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 36341 times:
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Quoting earlyNFF (Reply 71):
To me it appears, Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.

Maybe they figured out they have to pay the smallest amount of damage fees, given the discount LH received....

So they're just going to write off and destroy a $300 million asset?  


User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 36306 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 72):
So they're just going to write off and destroy a $300 million asset?

I´m not from the bean counter fraction, my guess is: from all the pending deliveries this one would cost them the least...

It would not be a write off, just deferred/transferred/delivered to 2013  


User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3383 posts, RR: 26
Reply 74, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 36271 times:
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Maybe Wilco737 will shed some light on the issue.. there seems to be an information vacuum surrounding line #1435.. and then again it maybe there is a lot of other work that is taking precedence

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 75, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 35855 times:

RC578/N851GT Delivery Flight just airborne from Paine Field (KPAE) towards Huntsville (KHSV), call sign GTI9037.
See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI9037
And : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....b747-87uf-panalpina-delivered.html

Aircraft data : L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, N851GT, Full Panalpina livery, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance/Delivery Flight (KHSV-GTI9037)July 25-2012.

[Edited 2012-07-25 10:09:43]


Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 76, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 35769 times:

Boeing delivered the first 747-8F to NCA (RC523, LN 1431) today. Flyaway is scheduled for tomorrow.

From the press release:

The environmentally focused Nippon Cargo Airlines will also undertake its first biofuel flight with this milestone 747-8 Freighter delivery. The new airplane will become the first 747-8 to use a blend of environmentally progressive biofuels (jet kerosene and used cooking oil) to fly across the Pacific Ocean.

Nippon Cargo Airlines, one of the launch customers for the 747-8 Freighter in 2005 and also part of a team that helped develop the aircraft, plans to begin revenue service with its new 747-8 Freighter by mid-August on Asia and North American routes.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 77, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 36115 times:

Quoting earlyNFF (Reply 71):
Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.

Interesting comment. You have evidence for this conclusion?


User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 78, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 36068 times:

Quoting earlyNFF (Reply 71):

To me it appears, Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.

I find that extremely hard to believe. It'll get done, although it may not be top of the priority list.


User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 36049 times:

Quoting cargolex (Reply 78):
It'll get done, although it may not be top of the priority list.

They need all manpower to bring the 787s into the air.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 80, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 35971 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 76):
Boeing delivered the first 747-8F to NCA (RC523, LN 1431) today. Flyaway is scheduled for tomorrow.
Quoting Laddie (Reply 76):
The new airplane will become the first 747-8 to use a blend of environmentally progressive biofuels (jet kerosene and used cooking oil) to fly across the Pacific Ocean.

Alright Congrats Boeing and KZ!!!! 
I'll hopefully see her on the apron of NRT on Friday!   



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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35654 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 77):
Quoting earlyNFF (Reply 71):Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.
Interesting comment. You have evidence for this conclusion?
Quoting earlyNFF (Reply 71):
To me it appears, Boeing isn´t willing/able to bring this aircraft to delivery status.

Evidence? If you cite me, do it uncensored, please!

TO ME IT APPEARS. For any reasons, why they asked LH to accept a further delay in delivery, ask Boeing!



Quoting cargolex (Reply 78):
It'll get done, although it may not be top of the priority list.


They need all manpower to bring the 787s into the air.




[Edited 2012-07-26 03:24:13]

[Edited 2012-07-26 03:28:58]

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 82, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 35589 times:

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 79):
They need all manpower to bring the 787s into the air.

I am also under the impression (but cannot prove it) that lack of skilled manpower is slowing down the refurbishing of the test and early produced 747-8 airframes.

Clearly Boeing's priority is at the 787 refurbishment program and not at refurbishing early built 748 airframes.

All the presently assembled 747-8 aircraft (especially the freighters) are needing a minimum effort to reach the delivery status and are delivered between 3-4 weeks after final assembly and are now delivered first iso. older airframes of the same customer.

It also seems that the refurbishment of the "real" heavily test-wired 747-8 aircraft (RC501, 521, 522, 001 and 021) has a low priority at the moment, so it's possible that Boeing asked LH for a delivery delay of RC021 (incl.compensation ???)

The delivery of several early built freighter airframes, requiring more rework, is already pushed back at request of the customer, due the present freight-market downturn.

Examples are RC553 and 554 for Cathay , stored at KPAE, with no engines installed, delivery probably pushed back to 2013 at request of the customer. Later produced airframes will be delivered first.



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 83, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 35092 times:

The next 747-8 freighter for Cathay Pacific Cargo emerged from the Final Assembly Line.
RC559-KPAE-July-27-2012


Screenshot (elapsed time 2.56 minutes) from Matt Cawby's Everett Flight line video of July 27.

Aircraft data : L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, unpainted, KPAE Flight line.



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 35052 times:

I have been searching for a picture of a 744 side by side with a 748. But I have not found a single picture, it would give a better view of the difference IMO. If someone has a picture like this, please post it here, it would be great!

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 85, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 35059 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 84):
I have been searching for a picture of a 744 side by side with a 748. But I have not found a single picture, it would give a better view of the difference IMO. If someone has a picture like this, please post it here

Perhaps these comparison pictures will do the trick (taken at exact the same distance , angle, etc.) :

Original uploaded by nick123n, for other sizes and explanation see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/27044274@N06/6854370658/



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2862 posts, RR: 10
Reply 86, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 34744 times:
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When, if ever, would we see an LH 748i at JFK or EWR? Sorry as I'm sure this has been discussed to death- but I have not ever seen it on A.net


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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 34451 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 85):

Thanks that was perfect!


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 88, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 34514 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 83):

Here is a better shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/7667268932/in/photostream/



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 89, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 33774 times:

RC523/JA13KZ just airborne from Paine Field (KPAE) towards Narita (RJAA) for a delivery flight with call-sign NCA696,
see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NCA696


Aircraft Data : L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA)date : Aug-01-2012.

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RC024/D-ABYD departed from Paine Field for a First (B1) flight, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE24

[Edited 2012-08-01 12:20:45]


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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 90, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32873 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 89):
RC024/D-ABYD departed from Paine Field for a First (B1) flight, see :

Had another test flight yesterday according to Matt Cawby's blog. Seems to be a end of August delivery?

Is there any other aircraft now scheduled for an August delivery?


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 91, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 32661 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 90):
Is there any other aircraft now scheduled for an August delivery?

Currently on the schedule for delivery by end of August:
LN 1453 RC024 Intercontinental for DLH
LN 1461 RC506 Freighter for CLX
LN 1460 RC559 Freighter for CAT
LN 1426 RC546 Freighter for GIF/KAL


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 92, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 31607 times:

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (Aug-11-2012)

43 Completed airframes , 25 delivered (marked : @ )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, refurbishment to delivery standard at Lackland AFB, San Antonio.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, "City of Esch-sur-Alzette", Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSAE-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery,”City of Ettelbruck”, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, KPAE flight line. Expected delivery Aug. 2012.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special “Hong Kong Trader” livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), stored : KPAE flight line.

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, future registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , full ABC livery, KPAE flight line.

@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, stored : Tower Apron at KPAE.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line.

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, future registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange “Boeing Sunrise” livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011, presently in refurbishment to delivery standard, with engines removed, at KPAE flight line.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, stored at KPAE Flight line, with engines removed, awaiting refurbishment to delivery standard. Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed till Sept 2013 ? *

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, “City of Luxembourg”, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Runway 11-29 at KPAE.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line.

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, thereafter cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Cabin outfitting will start in September and will take between 18 and 21 months.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May 24, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, will be stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011.

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, “Brandenburg”, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post delivery maintenance performed at Lufthansa Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Stored at San Bernadino . Will be ferried to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012. PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, scheduled delivery date Aug-??-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, named : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, named “Spirit of Panalpina”, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, full livery, KPAE flight line, Scheduled delivery date Sept-??-2012

@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.

@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery,named “Passion for Solutions”, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.

L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ ? , RC006, serial number 41060?, (unknown)BBJ customer, N455BJ ?, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, will be delivered “green” in 2012.

L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, scheduled Aug .delivery.

L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, expected F/F Aug 18. Expected delivery Aug 28.

L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37567?, Atlas Air #9, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line.
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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
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L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, slant position #1, expected roll-out date Aug 21.

L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serialnumber 39246?, Cathay #10, future registration B-LJJ, slant position #2, expected roll-out date Sept. 5.

L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, registration LX-VCG, body join position.

L/N 1466 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC007 , wing join position
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Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
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L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, Atlas Air #10
L/N 1468 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC008
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 36139, NCA #4, registration JA14KZ
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, Cargolux #8
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, KAL#3
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, Cargolux #9
L/N 1479 - 747-8B5F, RC548, KAL #4
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36140, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-8**F, RC631, customer GECAS ???
L/N 1484 - 747-8**F, RC632, customer CECAS ???

? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= unknown Boeing customer code**

[Edited 2012-08-11 04:31:37]


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 93, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 31345 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 92):
L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, stored at KPAE Flight line, with engines removed, awaiting refurbishment to delivery standard. Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed till Sept 2013 ? *

Why would it be postponed until next year? Does it really need that much refurbishment?



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 94, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 31342 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 93):
Why would it be postponed until next year? Does it really need that much refurbishment?

Original L/N 1435 would have been delivered at the end of September 2012.
Several aviation media and forums already reported a delay to 2013, with additional reports about keeping one extra LH 744 longer as a substitute.
For more background info about the delay , see Reply 82 in this thread.

The new L/N 1435 "postponed data" in the provisional 747-8 listing are however marked with ?*

? = Not confirmed (by multiple sources)
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa

Since a few weeks this website is updated with a new delivery date : Sept 2013.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 95, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 31202 times:

L/N 1435 was moved to the South Ramp (nearby the EMC) back in June. She's not at the flight line anymore.

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae8276.jpg
http://paineairport.com/kpae5233.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae5232.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae5274.htm

It looks like a long term storage?

[Edited 2012-08-11 13:47:50]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 96, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 30623 times:

RC546 will make a flyover of the Boeing Classic golf tournament the morning of August 24. This is the usual flyover by a Boeing jet that marks the beginning of the tournament.

RC546 is a KAL 747-8F, but Emirates Airline is the official sponsor of the tournament. I don't know if the KAL colors will be covered up for the flight. All I know is there are two days of prep time on the schedule before the flight.


User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 97, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 30587 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 95):
It looks like a long term storage?

It wasn't very long term, because as of this past weekend, it has again been moved. Not sure if it's back on the flight line, but it is no longer stored in that area.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 98, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 30482 times:

It's a shuffle game. As of today, LN1435 is parked on the ramp under the control tower.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 99, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 29899 times:

This Boeing statement does not say which airplane is involved, but it is probably LN 1446:

Boeing has been awarded a contract from VIP Completion Center, a division of Greenpoint Technologies, to install an interior on a Boeing Business Jet -- the BBJ 747-8. Installation is scheduled to begin at the Boeing Global Services & Support Modification Center in San Antonio, Texas, in early 2013.

"Boeing and Greenpoint have enjoyed a longstanding industry partnership. We’re excited to work together on this amazing project," said Steve Wade, Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) general manager.

GTES, part of the Global Services & Support business unit of Boeing Defense, Space & Security, is a Boeing commercial derivative business headquartered in Wichita, Kan., with operations in Oklahoma City and the Puget Sound area.

Greenpoint Technologies in Kirkland, Wash., is a certified BBJ completion center. The company has partnered with GTES for more than a decade on numerous programs, including the Aeroloft™ passenger area installation on four BBJ 747-8 models.

[Edited 2012-08-16 07:07:38]

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 100, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 29270 times:

HL7610/RC546, the second KAL 747-8 freighter, is just airborne for a first (B1) flight from Paine Field toward Moses Lake, after two unsuccessful attempts on Thursday and Friday.
See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20120818/1700Z/KPAE/KMWH

The aircraft is one of the two early produced airframes (HL7609 and HL7610) ordered by lessor Guggenheim Aviation Partners for lease to Korean Airlines Cargo.
After cancellation of the order (after the assembly was completed) the two aircraft were purchased directly by KAL Cargo.

Aircraft data :L/N 1426, 747-8HTF* or 747-8B5F* , RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, HL7610, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 17-2012, Expected delivery Aug. 2012.

* Explanation :
The first aircraft (HL7609) is already delivered to KAL and according the 747 Type Certificate still listed as a 747-8HTF (GuAP customer code) with variable number RC541.
The second aircraft is however listed (out of sequence) as RC546 i.s.o. RC542. This could be an indication that the aircraft customer code could also has been changed from HT (GuAP) to B5 (KAL).

Remark : Only in exceptional cases Boeing changes the variable number and/or customer code after a customer change after final assembly of a particular airframe.



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 101, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 28590 times:

RC024 (third Intercontinental for DLH) is currently on its C-1 flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE24

Boeing is planning to deliver the airplane to DLH by the end of the week.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 102, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 28690 times:

B-LJI / RC559, the next Cathay 747-8 freighter, just airborne from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight to Moses Lake.
See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20120820/1630Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Expected delivery Aug 2012.

Nine CX aircraft have been assembled up to now, with 6 delivered and two early airframes (L/N 1433 / RC553 / B-LJC and L/N 1438 / RC554 / B-LJD) stored for refurbishment and delivery in 2013.
CX-airframe #10 (L/N 1464 / RC560 / B-LJJ), with expected FAL roll-out date Sept. 05, will be delivered next in 2012 as the eighth active Cathay 747-8 freighter.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 103, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28288 times:

http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa

D-ABYE L/N 1435 delivery is now listed for 30.09.2013



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 104, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 27919 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 103):
D-ABYE L/N 1435 delivery is now listed for 30.09.2013

That's as good a guess as any. D-ABYE will be taking up space on the KPAE ramp for a long, long time.

I see the webpage has old information for the delivery date of D-ABYD. She won't be delivered before 24 August 2012, and the schedule doesn't show a flyaway date..


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 105, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 27897 times:
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Quoting Laddie (Reply 104):

D-ABYD is scheduled to arrive in FRA soon and Start flying couple weeks later, roughly mid September.

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 106, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 27744 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 105):
D-ABYD is scheduled to arrive in FRA soon and Start flying couple weeks later, roughly mid September.

So when are YOU supposed to be flying the 748i for them?

 



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 107, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 27648 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 106):

Once the company schedules me for it.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 108, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 27520 times:

Some activity: "AirBridgeCargo 747-8F VQ-BGZ was moved from the flightline to the fuel dock this evening." @ http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/08/paine-field-august-21.html


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 109, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 27060 times:

Two-week slide to RC506's delivery and flyaway date: they are now scheduled for 10 September. B-1 flight scheduled for 28 August.

RC021/D-ABYE spotters: you'll now find her in Stall 206 (south end of flight line).
http://www.kpae.blogspot.com/2012/08/paine-field-august-21.html


User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 26719 times:

RC024/D-ABYD will be delivered today http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...5/history/20120824/1900Z/KPAE/EDDF

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 111, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 26723 times:
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Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 110):

Exactly. Will be on its first flight to BLR on September 13th. Bookable on lufthansa.com.

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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 112, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26699 times:

From twitter (Matt Cawby) , today's 747-8 highlights

- Lufthansa 747-830 RC024 D-ABYD is being fueled for a delivery flight to Frankfurt (EDDF).

- Cargolux 747-8R7F RC506 LX-VCF just completed an initial engine run.

- Korean Air Cargo 747-8HTF RC546 HL7610 will do the Boeing Classic fly-by this morning. (overhead tournament at 11.20 a.m.)

Remark : No filed flight plans and/or flight tracking available at this moment (FlightAware is down.)



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User currently onlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26672 times:

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 110):
RC024/D-ABYD will be delivered today http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D.../EDDF
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 111):
Exactly. Will be on its first flight to BLR on September 13th. Bookable on lufthansa.com.

So that makes 3 -8 frames right?


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 114, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26714 times:
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Quoting rotating14 (Reply 113):
So that makes 3 -8 frames right?

Correct: D-ABYA, D-ABYC and now D-ABYD to join the fleet. Currently flown to IAD and DEL and from 13th September add BLR to that list.

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 115, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26677 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 111):
Exactly. Will be on its first flight to BLR on September 13th. Bookable on lufthansa.com.

So YOU will?   



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 116, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26700 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 115):
So YOU will?   

Still no. Don't have the training for the 747-8i yet. I hope for October or November.

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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 117, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 26568 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 113):
- Korean Air Cargo 747-8HTF RC546 HL7610 will do the Boeing Classic fly-by this morning. (overhead tournament at 11.20 a.m.)

Remark : No filed flight plans and/or flight tracking available at this moment (FlightAware is down.)

RC546 returned to KPAE before noon. Mission accomplished.

FlightAware is working OK. I think the flight was suppressed from display at Boeing's request.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 118, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26270 times:

Delivery flight DLH9875 : Take Off video of RC524/D-ABYD :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1JJJktIK6BQ

Quoting Laddie (Reply 117):
I think the flight was suppressed from display at Boeing's request.

RC546 Fly-by was operated as a VFR flight with temp. registration N5510E, see :

http://paineairport.com/kpae5329.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/7852514264/



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User currently onlineLPSHobby From Brazil, joined May 2007, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 26177 times:
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aside LH, wich airlines will be the next to receive passenger 747-8I en 2012/2013?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30537 posts, RR: 84
Reply 120, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 26190 times:
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Quoting LPSHobby (Reply 119):
aside LH, wich airlines will be the next to receive passenger 747-8I en 2012/2013?

KE will be the next 747-8 customer, but not sure when their first bird is due.


User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 25868 times:

Any news about RC571 and RC572, the NTU's of Atlas Air?

There is a photo by Matt Cawby
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/7862284198/?lightbox=1

and if you look closly, RC571 is in the background undergoing workings (to delivery standard?). Is there any new customers for the both planes in sight or will Atlas Air eventually pick them up at a later date?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 122, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 25855 times:

Quote:
Any news about RC571 and RC572, the NTU's of Atlas Air?

And RC573? Atlas Air rejected 3 frames.



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 123, posted (1 year 11 months 4 hours ago) and read 25447 times:

The next 747-8 freighter emerged at the KPAE Flight Line from the Final Assembly Line.
Big version: Width: 1146 Height: 574 File size: 105kb
RC604 - VQ-BRH - Aug-25-2012

Screenshot from Matt Cawby's Aug 25 flight line picture, see : http://paineairport.com/images/fl082512.jpg

Aircraft data : L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders.


Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 121):
Any news about RC571 and RC572, the NTU's of Atlas Air?

No news afaik.
However the three aircraft are not listed at Boeing's available aircraft site : http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...=include/reports.cfm&pageid=m38072

Could the aircraft not be used as a spare part provider for the actual delivered aircraft ?

For a better picture of RC571, see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/7867504096/

[Edited 2012-08-27 00:08:27]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 124, posted (1 year 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 25346 times:

Quote:
Could the aircraft not be used as a spare part provider for the actual delivered aircraft ?

Boeing could reuse at least the engines. I'm surprised to see those 4 GEnx engines still hanging underneath the wings of RC571 a year after Atlas Air has abandoned this frame.

[Edited 2012-08-27 00:47:58]


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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 125, posted (1 year 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 25314 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 124):
I'm surprised to see those 4 GEnx engines still hanging underneath the wings of RC571 a year after Atlas Air has abandoned this frame.

Also RC573 has been stored with engines installed, see latest available picture (together with another early built stored airframe, without engines : probably B-LJC
See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/7869929620/



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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (1 year 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 25203 times:

Yes it's three aircraft, I'm sorry.

Thank you for the photo. For me, it looks like they're converting RC571 into delivery status.


User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3383 posts, RR: 26
Reply 127, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 25151 times:
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Quoting 747classic (Reply 123):
Could the aircraft not be used as a spare part provider for the actual delivered aircraft ?


they would be costly spares and maybe not even of a usable configuration... however I think Boeing is working a sales deal that will take them as is or with a few minor mods..


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 128, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 24855 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 127):
however I think Boeing is working a sales deal that will take them as is or with a few minor mods..

You think correctly. There is no plan to cannibalize the airplanes for spare parts.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 129, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 24630 times:

According Matt Cawby's KPAE blog a double Cathay Pacific delivery ceremony will be held at Aug 28 , starting at 11.00 am PDT.

Both 747-867F / B-LJI and 777-367ER / B-KQC will be delivered,

see : http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/08/paine-field-august-27.html

B-LJI/RC559 will be the seventh delivered 747-8 freighter for Cathay.
Two early built airframes (B-LJC/RC553 and B-LJD/RC554) are still stored and will be delivered in 2013.
Next delivery will be B-LJJ/RC560 .This aircraft will emerge from the FAL in the first week of September.

[Edited 2012-08-27 23:26:20]


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10631 posts, RR: 9
Reply 130, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 24409 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 129):
Two early built airframes (B-LJC/RC553 and B-LJD/RC554) are still stored and will be delivered in 2013.

Seems these two need more out-of-sequence refurbishing/upgrading work to be done than building a completely new frame!

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 126):
Thank you for the photo. For me, it looks like they're converting RC571 into delivery status.

Yes. At least it doesnt look like a plane in longterm storage. I hope those three are flying soon. If the price is right I´m sure they´ll raise some interest.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 120):
KE will be the next 747-8 customer, but not sure when their first bird is due.

Korean Air yes. No known date yet, although I´m 99% sure not within the next 12 months. End of next year perhaps.


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 131, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 24373 times:

Quoting na (Reply 130):
Two early built airframes (B-LJC/RC553 and B-LJD/RC554) are still stored and will be delivered in 2013.
Seems these two need more out-of-sequence refurbishing/upgrading work to be done than building a completely new frame!

AFAIK About six months ago, Cathay asked for a delivery delay of two 747-8F aircraft from 2012 to 2013 because of the present downturn in the cargo market. All ten (10) ordered aircraft however were already scheduled for assembly and this firing order could not be changed easily. Consequently both decided that the best solution was to store these two early birds until refurbishment in 2013.
In this scenario Cathay had more later built airframes with higher operating weights available in 2012.
Also Boeing, already short of skilled refurbishment manpower, could proceed in 2012 at the present 787 refurbishment pace.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 132, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 24185 times:

Atlas Air 747-8F N852GT just out of the paint hangar https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/240492380145471489


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User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 24076 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 132):

Is this one L/N 1429 - RC571?


User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 134, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 24052 times:

Quoting milestones787 (Reply 133):
Is this one L/N 1429 - RC571?

It must be L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571

See : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...Num_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N852GT

[Edited 2012-08-28 12:08:44]


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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 135, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 23792 times:

RC579/N852GT, the first Atlas Air 747-8 freighter in Atlas Air livery :

Original uploaded by Moonm . For other sizes, see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/7884703218/

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The customer acceptance of RC559/B-LJI seems to be delayed ??

Just before the scheduled (double) delivery a test flight was made at Aug 28, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE559

[Edited 2012-08-28 22:25:20]


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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6582 posts, RR: 55
Reply 136, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 23680 times:

B-LJI is due to leave PAE on thursday, arriving into HKG friday.

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 137, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23420 times:

Looks like LN1459 is going to make its first flight today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE506



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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 138, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23372 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 137):
Looks like LN1459 is going to make its first flight today.

AFAIK RC506 / LX-VCF is produced as L/N1461.

L/N 1459 is a 747-8/BBJ for a still secret customer with variable/tabulation number RC006.
Probably the aircraft has the new (and not known) Boeing customer code LQ ( This 747-8LQ is listed in the FAA registry with serial number 41060 and registration N455BJ with registered owner The Boeing company.
See: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=455BJ

[Edited 2012-08-29 08:01:13]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 139, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 23237 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 138):
L/N 1459 is a 747-8/BBJ for a still secret customer with variable/tabulation number RC006.

RC006 is listed as customer "521" in company documents. I don't know what that means, but there you go.

Her first flight is scheduled for the first week in October.

RC546 is scheduled to make its C-1 flight today (any minute now). This is in preparation for delivery and flyaway on 31 August.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 135):
The customer acceptance of RC559/B-LJI seems to be delayed ??

RC559 is scheduled for delivery and flyaway tomorrow (30 August).

[Edited 2012-08-29 10:08:17]

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 140, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 22913 times:

L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight, A7-HHE.

Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas.

Ferry flight to Hamburg for VIP Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Airborne Wichita 18:20 CDT Aug 29-2012.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8kb-bbj-qatar-amiri-flight.html

And : http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/a7-hhe

[Edited 2012-08-29 23:54:47]


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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 141, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 22652 times:

RC506 / LX-VCF airborne from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake, see :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20120830/1500Z/KPAE/KMWH

Yesterday the aircraft was scheduled for this B1 flight, but only a high speed taxi test was performed , see :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cjTdCiYKw2U

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quoting Laddie (Reply 139):
RC559 is scheduled for delivery and flyaway tomorrow (30 August).

A flight plan has been filed for the RC559 delivery flight with call-sign CPA3335 to Vancouver (CYVR) :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3335



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 142, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 22611 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 141):
RC506 / LX-VCF airborne from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake, see :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KMWH

Flight returned to KPAE after only an hour. Reason for diversion unknown.


User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 22609 times:

What is the status of LN 1426 RC546 Freighter for GIF/KAL? It was supposed to be delivered by the end of August according to a post earlier in this thread.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 144, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 22587 times:

Quoting milestones787 (Reply 143):
What is the status of LN 1426 RC546 Freighter for GIF/KAL? It was supposed to be delivered by the end of August according to a post earlier in this thread.

There has been no change to the schedule that I am aware of. She is still scheduled to be delivered on 31 August.

[Edited 2012-08-30 09:35:10]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 145, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22388 times:

RC546 made its C1 flight yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvLt9sIACh8


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 146, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 22314 times:

RC559 has been handed over to Cathay Pacific today, and she just took off on her delivery flight.

That makes 7 deliveries to Cathay Pacific, out of 10 ordered. There are two more parked at KPAE, and the last one rolls out of the factory on Wednesday.


User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22173 times:

Any idea when L/N 1430 - RC601 for AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) will be delivered? It seems to have been in full livery and on the flight line for some time.

User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 148, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 21743 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 144):
There has been no change to the schedule that I am aware of. She is still scheduled to be delivered on 31 August.

The KAL is not due to delivery til Tuesday from the list I'm looking at.   


User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21657 times:

Any idea what the September 747-8 delivery schedule is shaping up to look like?

User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 150, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21680 times:

Laddie may be able to advise better but from the info I have here -

HL7610 4th
LX-VCF 10th
VQ-BGZ 27th
N852GT 28th


User currently offlineCapt747ret From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 33 posts, RR: 1
Reply 151, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 21456 times:

Quoting RobK (Reply 148):

The KAL is not due to delivery til Tuesday from the list I'm looking at.

How can I get a copy of the list?


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 152, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21455 times:

Quoting Capt747ret (Reply 151):
How can I get a copy of the list?

Unfortunately you can't as it's internal data.


User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 21259 times:

Isn't L/N 1456 - Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF scheduled for a September delivery or is it not going to make it?

User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4681 posts, RR: 14
Reply 154, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 21115 times:
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When do the first "lighter" planes roll out?

User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 155, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 21004 times:

- AFAIK it's an ongoing process, not according building blocks .The presently delivered airframes are substantial lighter already.

- All airframes delivered from April 2012 have the higher operating weights to compensate for the higher OEW. It's not know to me if earlier delivered airframes are already capable (after modification?) to operate at these higher operating weights.

- All airframes delivered from the start of 2014 have the full "weight-watcher" program completed, incl. GEnx-2B engines with PIP and the fully operational NGFMS software. These aircraft are probably exceeding the original payload/range target.

- For the 747-8 Intercontinental : the present tail tank issue will be solved before 2014.

[Edited 2012-09-02 22:46:53]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 156, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 20450 times:

HL7610 delivery flight http://nl.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL28D


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 157, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 20443 times:

Quoting milestones787 (Reply 153):
Isn't L/N 1456 - Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF scheduled for a September delivery or is it not going to make it?

D-ABYF is tentatively scheduled for a 24 September delivery. All dates subject to change.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 156):
HL7610 delivery flight http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...AL28D

Good news. I do not what delayed the delivery from 31 August. HL7610 made a quick hop on Labor Day.

Quoting RobK (Reply 150):
Laddie may be able to advise better but from the info I have here -
HL7610 4th
LX-VCF 10th
VQ-BGZ 27th
N852GT 28th

Add DLH's 4th 747-8 (see my note above).


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 158, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20185 times:

RC546/HL-7610 is being prepped for her delivery flight. She seems reluctant to leave the beautiful weather in Seattle.

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 159, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20204 times:
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Quoting Laddie (Reply 157):
D-ABYF is tentatively scheduled for a 24 September delivery. All dates subject to change.

Exactly and 4 weeks later it will start flying on the line.

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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 160, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 19855 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 159):

Exactly and 4 weeks later it will start flying on the line.

Don't buy your tickets quite yet. A new schedule is out, and the delivery has slid one month to 23 October. No reason given.

Now we are back to the lineup shown in reply #150 for deliveries this month. I told you delivery dates are very fluid. But the sun rose in the east today. That much is for certain.


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 161, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 19870 times:
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Quoting Laddie (Reply 160):
Don't buy your tickets quite yet. A new schedule is out, and the delivery has slid one month to 23 October. No reason given.

Nah, I don't buy tickets, I just got the info that I will be trained on the 747-8i in November...   

New schedule? Ah well. Do you know what the issue is?

Thanks.

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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 162, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19747 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 160):
Don't buy your tickets quite yet. A new schedule is out, and the delivery has slid one month to 23 October. No reason given.

Glad you've said that, thought I was going daft here as no sign of it on the sheet I'm seeing!   


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 163, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 19714 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 161):
Do you know what the issue is?

No, I do not. According to an article in USA Today, DLH and its customers love the 747-8, so the issue cannot be related to airplane performance.
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...09/lufthansa-747-8/837296/1?csp=tf


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 164, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 19717 times:
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Quoting Laddie (Reply 163):
No, I do not. According to an article in USA Today, DLH and its customers love the 747-8, so the issue cannot be related to airplane performance.

At least LH and the costumers are happy with it. That's good news.

Let's keep the fingers crossed that the airplane will be delivered soon.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 19632 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 161):
I just got the info that I will be trained on the 747-8i in November...

Congratulations!!!         



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 166, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 19579 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 161):
Nah, I don't buy tickets, I just got the info that I will be trained on the 747-8i in November...

Agreed! Congrats Wilco!

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User currently online747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2084 posts, RR: 14
Reply 167, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 19399 times:

Here are some nice video's of the crosswind landing at Hamburg (HAM) after the ferry flight from Mc.Connell AFB, Wichita (IAB) of A7-HHE at Aug 30. (see reply 140 in this thread)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cZ75L1tGOE4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwhLhrynlHo&feature=player_embedded



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 168, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 19072 times:

RC001 (the "Big Orange") is on the schedule for delivery by the end of October. I do not where the cabin outfitting will be done for the VIP customer (the government of Qatar, I believe).

User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 169, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18799 times:

Does anyone have info on when the refurbishment will be done on the first 3 -8Fs that are currently in San Antonio and when they will be delivered?