FSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 692 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 19607 times:
UA's thank you gift for AF dropping EWR-CDG?
On a more serious note, there probably is more traffic originating in IAH and going beyond CDG than there is originating in CDG and going beyond IAH. There are many connections available through CDG to Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, and India. I would imagine that the AF flight is especially popular with any oil traffic going to North Africa.
The O&D probably goes to both airlines right now, but perhaps AF is favored for better service.
SEA SFO LAX ONT SAN DEN IAH DFW OMA FSD MSP MSN MKE ORD DTW CVG MEM JAN BHM RSW ATL CLT BWI PHL LGA JFK MEX LIM KEF LHR
mogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19409 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
I don't know exactly, but EWR-CDG is going from 2x daily 757 to 2x daily 1 764, 1 757.
Another victim of the merger - now that UA/CO has 2.5 European hubs (EWR, IAD, and 0.5 in the form of ORD), the business case for non-star-hub European routes out of IAH without multiple corporate contracts is weakening by the day =(
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4777 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19362 times:
Incredible. CDG has been a fixture for years out of IAH, guess this Slimezek run airline is truly seeking to eliminate Houston from their route structure piece by piece. What will leave the schedule next from IAH, NRT, SFO, and EWR?
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4962 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19333 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 14): Eh, this isn't all that surprising. Wonder if IAH-AMS will be toast next?
No. UA has corporate contracts on that route and currently operates 764. The rumor has it that this route will be going 787 early on. CDG has been a very weak performer for UA from IAH since they left Skyteam.
traindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 328 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19215 times:
Hope that this is being done for rational, not punitive reasons! It is hard for me to believe that their is NO market for IAH-CDG on UA! On the other hand, with the degradation in customer service on the "new" UA, nothing would surprise me. As a longtime CO flyer (1K now) it pains me to see the slide downhill. As consistent as the poor service has been this year, I am starting to believe that this is what management wants.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6442 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19089 times:
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 16): CDG has more than ample service from EWR/ORD/IAD for a SkyTeam hub. Perhaps we will finally see IAH-MUC or ZRH next summer?
Anywhere from IAH to Europe is a very long flight and costly to fly. UA is likely maximizing opportunities via the other hubs in order to not operate such expensive sectors. Remember, CO only had two prime international hubs. Now with United they can split the hub flights to Europe between IAH, IAD, EWR, ORD, SFO, LAX.
why is that? Its a different ball game than AF. UA is not generating the traffic beyond CDG, it is relying solely on terminating passengers, and those pax may or may not be transiting through ORD/IAD/EWR rather than flying to IAH.
okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6442 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19032 times:
Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 20):
This just chaps my A**. There is no way UA can't make a daily flight to Paris work from Houston. That is like saying you can't get a monkey to eat a banana.
It's really not as bad as you would think. Europe's ecnonomy is in the s***er and weak performers get dropped. UA even dropped EWR-CPH and made EWR-FCO, IAD-DME only seasonal -- First time they have ever done this.
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