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Rough Ride Out Of EZE  
User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 14450 times:

Messing around on the Tube and stumbled on this....a BA 777 from EZE to LHR on 17 June getting smacked around appox over the Brazil border. Check out the pitch and yawing about 5 min into the vid...just watching it made me kinda queasy lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UO-wYpNN0s

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User currently offlineBDABOY From Bermuda, joined Nov 2004, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14268 times:

That's pretty nasty stuff!! I do like a bit of excitement on those long flights though  

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14059 times:

Best thing to do in such case is to sit tight and tied up and wait until it passes.

I've been in turbulence like this more than once. I try to have no liquids or foods anywhere near me. The worse is up front even with the F seat it will be heavy shaking and down in the back too.

This is where it's nice to be in a A380 with the massive wings than on a "lighter" frame. From experience I find they take heavy turbulence rather well.

        



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User currently offlinejohruk From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13752 times:

It looks bad, but I have to wonder just how bad it was....I HATE turbulence and have been in some pretty bad stuff, but I wonder looking at the guy in row in front he seems to be moving around, taking his jacket off etc without punching the guy next to him! Could there be a lot of extra camera movement? If it was so bad I would have thought any movement would have been a bit more difficult if it was so bad....just my own view and glad I was not on that flight! And maybe difficult to tell but there does not seem to be a huge amount of Wing flex....but like I say might just be me!

User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13691 times:

It's hard to tell how bad it is. Obviously some bumps and cabin crew are sat down but doesn't look toooo bad. I love turbulence. The more the better. In smooth air, there is no sense of the aircraft's speed but you can infer a sense of how fast you're going when you hit a few bumps. Thanks for sharing this video.


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User currently offlineviasamsy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12699 times:

The palm of my hands and feet became all sweaty when I watched this.
I had been in turbulence like it flying on a Delta E175 for almost 45 minutes and as much as I like flying it was a borderline terrifying experience.



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User currently offlinewindowflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12572 times:

Definitely would not say the more the better, but I too enjoy a little rough patch now and then. It gives you a better sense of situation I find, and a deeper awareness / appreciation of flight in general.

That being said, I have 14 flight segments coming up this August and would definitely not enjoy anything as bad as that.



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2830 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 12161 times:

Wow, shaky!! I do like the odd bit of turbulence, as a passenger & when working. In the back of a BA 744 once I was really being bumped around, & in work I felt meself lift off the jumpseat & I'm not the smallest gal. One day I am waiting for that scary unexpected turbulence   

[Edited 2012-06-30 16:17:26]


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User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11693 times:

Wow that looks quite bad, I would be a nervous wreck in that situation despite my love of flying. What gets me is the screaming of other passengers. I think being on a flight like that at night is something I would really not enjoy.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 7):
In the back of a BA 744 once I was really being bumped around

Yes indeed I was at the back of a BA 777 not long ago and was surprised at how uncomfortable it was - for the whole TA crossing we were tossed around- it seems to me that the aft of a 777 is noticably more bumpy than other types, but I may not be seasoned enough to make that judgement!


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11629 times:

It does not really get interesting until about 5 minutes into the video. The very audible sounds of galley equipment crashing, some startled screaming and OHB contents slamming tells me it was pretty bad. The video poster said that once then landed in LHR, the Capt. apologized for the discomfort...and admitted in his 30something years of flying, that was the worst.

User currently offlineCZ346 From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8804 times:

Quoting windowflyer (Reply 6):
That being said, I have 14 flight segments coming up this August and would definitely not enjoy anything as bad as that.

I totally agree. I was on a leg from HKG to EWR earlier this year that took off and was very smooth for about an hour, and all of a sudden hit some turbulence around Taiwan that rivaled this, and maintained a pretty bad degree until we got near the Kamchatka Peninsula. It got a little better, but still bad all the way till we were over Calgary. Nobody could get ANY sleep. I like turbulence, but on a 15 hour flight I also enjoy sleep...


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8448 times:
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Quoting johruk (Reply 3):
It looks bad, but I have to wonder just how bad it was....I HATE turbulence and have been in some pretty bad stuff, but I wonder looking at the guy in row in front he seems to be moving around, taking his jacket off etc without punching the guy next to him! Could there be a lot of extra camera movement? If it was so bad I would have thought any movement would have been a bit more difficult if it was so bad....just my own view and glad I was not on that flight! And maybe difficult to tell but there does not seem to be a huge amount of Wing flex....but like I say might just be me!

it's not just you. The movement of the camera seemed really exaggerated to me. He kept trying to stand up, but the plane was obviously being thrown around enough that he couldn't keep the camera straight. It actually became hard to watch the way he was swinging the camera around wildly. Having watched the video, i'm glad i wasn't on that flight. Like Phen, I'd have been a nervous wreck. That being said, I'd have been very glad to be on a 777, i'd be wishing I was on a 747-400 and i'd be thankful I wasnt on one of the numerous 737-800s and A320s that probably traverse that route on a daily basis. if it was that bad for a 777, i cant imagine what it'd be like flying through that on something 1/4 the 777's size.



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User currently offlineMilesDependent From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8167 times:

Interesting to note if you read the comments, that the pilot stated after landing at LHR that it was the owrst he had experienced in over 30 years...

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7993 times:

Nasty indeed... I've experienced my fair share of turbulence during my trips and that certainly beats it....

I've seen a video which states the aircraft hardly moves during turbulence and as an experiment place a glass of water on your meal tray...

EK413



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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6623 times:

I remember a situation like this on a North Atlantic track, eastbound. It continued for almost an hour, no way out of it.
Traffic left and right, above and below.
From what I´ve seen here, I would say very uncomfortable, but not yet SEVERE turbulence.

As I saw on the IFE, the flight was in the vicinity of Iguassu Falls, more or less. Reason for that turb was most probably so called lee waves. They are generated when strong winds are disturbed by high mountains, here the case with the Andes. You can have it even hundreds of miles beyond the place of origin.

I encountered real severe turb only once, in a 40+year career. Of course, over the Andes, on a leg SCL-EZE. The inbound leg from EZE was quite smooth, flying abeam Aconcagua. The return was via the southerly route, over volcano Maipó.The aircraft being very light for a 2h light, we had crossed 35000ft already with a good ROC, when, all of sudden, we got a punch like Muhammad Ali hit your stomach, in his best years. Thereafter, speeds and attitudes out of limits. We could hardly read the instruments, and hardly get the hand on the throttle. Even with idle power, the plane would hardly descent, so we were in an extreme updraft. (happy glider flying!) When we got out of that updraft, speed dropped so dramatically that we had to add thrust, even with a 15° nose down attitude. Eventually we managed to get to FL 330, were we could continue normally.

Crossing the Andes is nice to see, but always be careful!


User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5500 times:

I would have to say I would hate to be on a ride like that although I was once. But early NFF is right that is no where near severe that is moderate to heavy moderate. Although it would be severe to me since I really do not have the love of a rough ride like others on here. If that was the worst ride that captain had in 30 years he was pretty lucky. Even though true severe is rare most airline captains that have that much time have usually encountered severe at least once especially those who fly in the mountainous regions on a regular basis.


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 12):
Interesting to note if you read the comments, that the pilot stated after landing at LHR that it was the owrst he had experienced in over 30 years...

Yep--in fact, if you turn up the volume at the very end of the video, starting around 8:00, you can hear an announcement from the captain saying it was "about as bad as we've ever seen."

Yikes--when you hear that from an experienced flight crew you know it's pretty serious!



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User currently offlinewilld From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 4799 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 16):
Yep--in fact, if you turn up the volume at the very end of the video, starting around 8:00, you can hear an announcement from the captain saying it was "about as bad as we've ever seen."

Indeed I heard that also. What surprised me was how quickly it seemed to stop.


I love flying but do not like turbulence. Worst flight had to be on DL1 to LGW ex ATL back in around 2007 on a 764, in fact IIRC the first fitted with AVOD, flight deck crew again commented on how it was the worst they had experienced. Not nice at all, and as someone pointed out, heavy rough air in the dark is not great!


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1659 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Quoting johruk (Reply 3):
Could there be a lot of extra camera movement?

Definitely seems that way, i think if you want to video turbulence you need to pin the camera to something (top of the seat) and have the moving bodies and sounds illustrate the force.

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 11):
and i'd be thankful I wasnt on one of the numerous 737-800s and A320s that probably traverse that route on a daily basi

Surely no one flies a 738 on this 6900mi sector. Or were you referring to a different route? Looking at Kayak.com I only see the BA 777.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4995 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 4731 times:

Usually Youtube videos have titles like "Worst Turbulence EVER!" and all they contain are a few small bounces here and there.

This one really shows how bouncy turbulence can be! I liked the part where the guy doing the filming shows himself tightening his seat belt. As for the screaming women on board..... it could have been much worse with food & drinks flying about.

Remember even though you may feel like you are on a roller coaster with stomach drops and all the plane is still flying. Don't worry until you see the wings fold upwards or downwards.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25191 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 18):
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 11):
and i'd be thankful I wasnt on one of the numerous 737-800s and A320s that probably traverse that route on a daily basi

Surely no one flies a 738 on this 6900mi sector. Or were you referring to a different route? Looking at Kayak.com I only see the BA 777.



The flight was over land near the Brazilian border at the time according to the OP. There are probably dozens of 738s and A320s flying in the same airspace at similar altitudes every day.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):
The flight was over land near the Brazilian border at the time according to the OP. There are probably dozens of 738s and A320s flying in the same airspace at similar altitudes every day.

I wouldn't wanna be on a B737 or A320 considering the turbulence experienced in the video was onboard a B777!

EK413



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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
I've seen a video which states the aircraft hardly moves during turbulence and as an experiment place a glass of water on your meal tray...

Hmmmm.....see how well that worked out here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB71t0-xAFY&feature=related


User currently offlinehaggisman From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Ok Zeke

Have you experienced this or worse in your flying career, and how would you classify the degree of turbulence?  

Thanks

Scotty



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4995 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Here is a turbulence tip.
If the flight gets bouncy and your drink is starting to slosh around in the cup, put the swizzle stick back in it. That'll prevent the drink from leaving the cup. That is of course if the entire cup doesn't depart for the ceiling!



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25 spacecadet : I absolutely hate turbulence and this is definitely one of the worst videos I've seen of it (because most of them are utterly tame), but I still don't
26 AR385 : The two worst times for me were both crossing or around the Andes. 1) AR 737-200 MDZ-AEP. Just 10 mins after takeoff the plane started pitching, roll
27 AngMoh : The worst I had was in Australia flying from PER to ADL. It was extremely hot, but overnight a cold front had rolled in. During the flight, the captai
28 Post contains links EK413 : Cheers... I based my quote on what I read / watched on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gao3SIT3IY at about 3mins 15secs The passenger's in th
29 yellowtail : Now please explain the swizzle stick physics to me?
30 type-rated : I don't know the physics behind it but it works. I found this out one morning carrying a very full cup of hot coffee to my chair in the lounge. The co
31 yellowtail : Never too old to learn
32 EK413 : Thanks for sharing your experiment with us... I'll test it next time make a cuppa coffee... EK413
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