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WN Route Speculation For Jul 9 Release?  
User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1922 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15606 times:

WN will be releasing their latest schedules on JUL 9. Any speculation on possible new cities to be announced? This new release would be good through mid-February 2013. Any chance for Hawaii or Puerto Rico announcements?


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4995 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15542 times:

If anything, expect more FL flights transitioned to WN. MKE especially, since WN seems about halfway there already, and maybe some MCO/BWI as well.

I will be pleasantly surprised with the announcement of any new city or city-pair additions.



Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1435 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15369 times:

I highly doubt any HI or SJU since the FA's voted down their "Near Intl" (including SJU) TA recently and thus we can't even start overwater training until that's all hammered out. Since there's no definitive time-line on that I doubt they'll make a service announcement.


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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15258 times:

FL has several birds that are ETOPS certified, don't they? Maybe they'll start HI on their ETOPS -700's.


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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15138 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1):
If anything, expect more FL flights transitioned to WN. MKE especially, since WN seems about halfway there already, and maybe some MCO/BWI as well.

I will be pleasantly surprised with the announcement of any new city or city-pair additions.

I agree with OZ....perhaps more FL>WN migration but thats about it. As much as I would love to see new city pairs announced, the 9 July release would mean October-December flying....kind of a bad time to start up new routes. Only caveat is seasonal sun destination stuff.....WN never really chased that in the past (other than adjusting frequencies) but we all know that todays WN isnt your dads WN  


User currently offlinefloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15047 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 3):
FL has several birds that are ETOPS certified, don't they? Maybe they'll start HI on their ETOPS -700's.

I thought FL had over-water equipped aircraft, but not ETOPS. Can someone clarify?



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User currently offlineplanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14928 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 3):
Maybe they'll start HI on their ETOPS -700's.

No doubt they will announce nonstop DSM-HNL as their first Hawaii route.

  



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5343 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14758 times:

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 4):
Only caveat is seasonal sun destination stuff.....WN never really chased that in the past (other than adjusting frequencies) but we all know that todays WN isnt your dads WN.

You got that right!

I will continue to hope to see SAN-ATL begin sometime in 2013 but I'm not holding my breath. As said earlier, Jan/Feb is not the time to expect to see much in the way of new p-2-p routes started by any carrier.

bb


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14693 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 7):
As said earlier, Jan/Feb is not the time to expect to see much in the way of new p-2-p routes started by any carrier.

Unless it's Alaska. The State awakes from its Winter slumber, preparing for the Summer tourism season early to mid May



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User currently offlineJONC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14604 times:

I could see an announcment for some near intl flying with FL metal, but I dont see anything major coming from the WN side. Seems to be in the short term the WN FAs may have cheated themselves out of additional trips and handed them to the FL side. . .well see. . . .

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14523 times:

If a new city is announced I would think it would be non-stop from/to ATL. Looking at the WN interactive route map i saw twelve non-stop locations from the ATL. ATL-BNA has to be on the shortlist in that BNA is a focus city for WN.


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User currently offlinebarney captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 924 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14313 times:

Quoting floridaflyboy (Reply 5):
I thought FL had over-water equipped aircraft, but not ETOPS. Can someone clarify?

Correct. No ETOPS, only over-water raft equipped.



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User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14247 times:

I have a feeling it won't be anything earth shattering. They're only extending from the beginning of January until mid February, a very slow time of year for most airlines.

User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4995 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 14037 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 10):


ATL-BNA has to be on the shortlist in that BNA is a focus city for WN.

IMHO that route would be way down on the list as BNA doesn't really need an ATL connection to access the WN system.



Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13419 times:

Something to do with CLT

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12905 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 13):
BNA doesn't really need an ATL connection to access the WN system.

Do any of the WN ATL routes need an ATL connection to access the WN system?



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12902 times:

STL comes to my mind

I think we'll see less STL-bound flights when their new schedule unfolds

Not my big but small speculation

[Edited 2012-07-02 17:54:25]


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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12794 times:

I think that we all know DEN almost always seems to get something new......

Gotta stay competitive there and kick some bu** with UA and especially F9, huh?

 


User currently offlineN211BW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12376 times:

Hey MD,

I feel it's time for the big one. HNL, OGG, KOA announcemet for 1Q2013. Even though the FA vote down the Oversea/Int'l package, I feel that will be squared off by SEP.

As for FL/WN transition. CLT, ROC, RIC or ITC soon.



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User currently offlinecoffeepilot From United States of America, joined May 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12275 times:

I think Oak might get a new destination

User currently offlineLambertman From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2070 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12233 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 16):
STL comes to my mind

I think we'll see less STL-bound flights when their new schedule unfolds

Not my big but small speculation

Okay....thanks for the backup on your part.


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3029 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12192 times:

I for one would like to see MDW-DCA. Transferring the flights from MKE down to MDW. And maybe MDW-SJU on FL metal.  
Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 14):
Something to do with CLT

And I wouldn't mind MDW-CLT announced.  

[Edited 2012-07-02 19:34:18]

User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12142 times:

ATL-SAN and a new route for HOU.


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User currently offlineTLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12082 times:

I wonder what the odds are for TPA-GSP. Allegiant seems to do well with PIE-GSP.


Bill in ATL
User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11899 times:

Quoting N211BW (Reply 18):
I feel it's time for the big one. HNL, OGG, KOA announcemet for 1Q2013. Even though the FA vote down the Oversea/Int'l package, I feel that will be squared off by SEP.

I totally agree. I think that the FA package can be resolved in enough time to start service sometime next year, since we now have the ETOPS -800s.



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25 QANTAS747-438 : I also think there may be something regarding DCA and integration, especially with the AUS flt starting soon.
26 wnflyguy : With only 11 737700 planes being converted and the other 41 737700 FL planes being kept as FL for 2yrs for international flying. I think you will see
27 OzarkD9S : Nope. Right now it's ATL accessing the WN system. Until the ATL/FL system is fully absorbed, ATL is just a glorified spoke. And BNA of all places pro
28 Cubsrule : Agreed. But why not give ATL the BNA connection and - while I know it's going out of style - stimulate the local market. ATL-BNA is less than half as
29 OzarkD9S : I could see at 3-4 flights a day eventually, I just don't think it's a high priority in the short term. Once the ATL conversion to WN is underway I d
30 usflyguy : Where were these numbers posted?[Edited 2012-07-03 07:21:28][Edited 2012-07-03 07:21:45]
31 SurfandSnow : ATL-FLL ATL-SAN ATL-TPA BWI-GRR BWI-PWM DEN-DSM HOU-RSW MDW-DAY MDW-DCA MKE-DCA (I think they keep it, at reduced frequency) MKE-RSW
32 avi8 : All I see happening is just more flights being transfered to WN. With 1 airplane, a lot can be accomplished as they utilize it to its maximum. Maybe 7
33 planespotting : I've actually heard it may be awhile before DSM picks up any additional WN routes, but a surprise like this wouldn't, um, surprise me, haha.
34 GentFromAlaska : My speculation of ATL-BNA city pair being on a short list was more-so based on the fact that WN has connected ATL to its other larger operating bases
35 avi8 : ATL-TPA seems logical to me aswell. TPA, althoughnot many cinnections, has around 86 daily flights!
36 OzarkD9S : No argument there, I just wonder if the close proximity between BNA and ATL will justify a link in the near future. Plus if the most recent revelatio
37 steex : Interesting, the rumor mill has almost uniformly suggested the opposite. Also, the rumor (probably to be confirmed by the end of the day) that WN has
38 SANFan : As related to these 2 comments, I'm still trying to figure out the situation with the on-again-off-again flight between SAN and STL. This is not a se
39 mke717spotter : As it stands now, by November WN will have taken over all of FL's MKE flights except for ATL, DCA, and some flights to Florida. FL is also going to b
40 Lambertman : Yeah -- I'm not sure why St. Louis would be losing a significant amount of service. I'm not privy to information about how the station is performing,
41 KDAYflyer : WN will be transitioning DAY flights shortly. It appeared here in the Dayton Daily News a few weeks ago. I wish I could find the article.
42 MSYtristar : MSY needs another Southwest flight to the left coast. The return of OAK or SAN would be nice.
43 gizmonc : STL is moving upward in flights. AirTran is moving to Gate 29 in August, Freeing up gate E4 for SWA to use all day and evening, a new jetway is in the
44 UNITED91 : Just curious, how many daily flights does SWA have out of STL currently?
45 steex : WN is at 93 daily flights to 34 destinations for the summer. Presumably, that goes up to 95/35 if STL-DCA does come to fruition on 06 SEPT 12.
46 Post contains images wnflyguy : WN and branson entertainment group signed 5 year agreement for WN service starting next year. WN going to take over all the FL flying in the spring. W
47 gizmonc : STL only has 90 flights per day on the current schedule.
48 LoneStarMike : When FL's MDW-BKG service transitions over to WN, I'll bet WN will have the flight continue to DAL, providing a one-stop between MDW & DAL. It's
49 ultrapig : I know everyone wants all airlines to have nonstops to their favorite cities from their home town. I am though suprised that WN has no nonstops to OAK
50 sdoyon : As am I. I'd be interested to see the most recent PDEW information on STL-OAK/SFO in addition to STL-AUS and STL-ELP. I think it's only matter of tim
51 Cubsrule : They don't need much. With MCO growing a lot and ATL joining the list once FL and WN are fully integrated, I figure 110 flights or so will put a city
52 dbo861 : So we're going to be stuck with just 2x daily DSM-MDW for the foreseeable future?
53 Lambertman : El Paso is unlikely but Austin, Portland, and Oakland make sense if Southwest is positioning St. Louis as a key transfer point in the network. I'm ac
54 SANFan : Interesting thought considering WN apparently can't even keep STL-SAN going consistently (year-round) with an O&D market of over 200 PDEW... bb
55 Lambertman : Fair point, but I was suggesting if they are looking to build St. Louis as an e/w transfer point they would be the most logical additions. Not necess
56 gizmonc : I don't think you will see any new service out of STL , it will be more frequency to cities all ready served. As for the comment that STL SAN does not
57 southwest737500 : I bet they will announce CLT-MDW CLT-MCO
58 UNITED91 : I could see them announcing some routes out of CLT. Some others: ATL-TPA ATL-FLL DEN-BUF DEN-GSP STL-ATL
59 southwest737500 : Do you think GSP could support DEN. But then again of they can get good flight times there would be a lot of connecting opportunities
60 southwest737500 : I can even see ATL- TUL and OKC-ATL
61 FL787 : IMO everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing. This isn't the schedule extension for starting a whole bunch of new routes. The schedule being rel
62 QANTAS747-438 : That's a very good point. But WN 'could' start a new leisure route in order to have it up and running by summer time.
63 gizmonc : I like your thinking, true SWA needs to get into CLT and SOONER the better.
64 Cubsrule : Perhaps DSM (which I think will happen once the integration is complete) PIT and CLE and, as a longer shot, JAX or ORF, but there's not much.
65 Joeljack : DSM-STL? Doubt it, I can't imagine the local traffic between the two is there. It's a short drive and as of a year of two ago, 4-lane highway all the
66 sdoyon : 2011 DSM-STL PDEW: Q1: 16.11 Q2: 20.76 Q3: 21.08 Q4: 23.26
67 Cubsrule : WN effect, anyone? It's pointless to fly now. If they can make LIT-STL work, why not DSM-STL? The drives are pretty similar, and it's easier to gain
68 steex : The drive isn't all that short at about 350 miles or so. That's not much different than STL-MKE/TUL and is certainly longer than STL-MCI/MDW/BNA. In
69 southwest737500 : I'm sorry for bringing it up. But from living in jacksonville for 6 years and coming to Charlotte going on my 9 year It's really exciting. I LUV WN
70 Cubsrule : That list of cities was sort of what I was thinking of when I put routes like DSM, ORF and JAX on my "possible expansion" list. If IAD wasn't such a
71 Joeljack : The better question is, what were the numbers when American was still flying the route?
72 sdoyon : DSM-STL PDEW 2001: (Year AA bought/merged with TW) Q1: 77.11 Q2: 76.15 Q3: 58.26 Q4: 64.23 2009: (Year AA announced STL hub closure) Q1: 39.88 Q2: 49
73 steex : Agreed. Even that will be somewhat misleading, though. AA was often charging $500+ round-trip for routes like STL-DSM and STL-MKE, significantly depr
74 Lambertman : Des Moines - St. Louis is a lot less about local traffic than it is providing connectivity to the network. How do all of the other small Midwestern m
75 enilria : It's the FEB/MAR schedule. Expect a bunch of Florida stuff from MCO/FLL/RSW.
76 sdoyon : I mean, I totally agree. People just asked about the O&D traffic.[Edited 2012-07-05 18:40:39]
77 FL787 : The schedule being released is actually only from Jan. 5th until Feb. 13th so i'm not sure you can even expect that.
78 jporterfi : No, but some would benefit from ATL service. However, I don't believe BNA is one of them. I doubt WN would be sucessful on that route because I think
79 ouboy79 : This. Not sure where March is getting pulled into this...check back later this summer. At this point a lot of people are getting worked up over somet
80 Cubsrule : How, then, does WN succeed on DTW-MDW, or LAX-SJC, or BWI-PIT?
81 RWA380 : I was thinking even MKE, but yes as MDW is maxed, concentrating on O/D at MDW, while funneling connecting passengers through STL or MKE would make a
82 Cubsrule : MCI and STL have historically had an odd, but complementary, relationship in the WN network. MCI had lots of westbound flying that STL lacked (PDX, S
83 Flytravel : I'd be more surprised if WN wants to expand offerings at GSP since it is close to ATL and CLT, which WN is trying to grow or soon will be in case of
84 enilria : I'm hearing routes will be announced that commence on Feb. 14.
85 southwest737500 : I see WN focusing more on CLT than GSP GSP already has a nice amount of routes to get you to the rest of the network, remember GSP is not the size of
86 KDAYflyer : Perhaps the addition of MDW-DAY lies somewhere down the path. That would be a nice connceting opportunity to compete with UA and AA into ORD. A guy ca
87 alggag : DAY-MDW would certainly seem to fall into the "when, not if" category I'd think.
88 planespotting : Could be a year or longer from what I've heard. 5-6 hours on a relatively roundabout route is a short drive? Especially as an alternative to MDW. STL
89 United_fan : Looking forward to WN in ROC. Any idea when this will happen?
90 Flytravel : They seem to be keeping the BWI dependent markets with FL for the time being- I suppose because FL at BWI can take one to Aruba, Bermuda, etc. Howeve
91 ANA787 : I could see: PDX-STL PDX-HOU PDX-BWI PDX-MKE
92 sdoyon : Appears that MKE-MSY is among the new routes, beginning 1/7: MSY-MKE #3814 9:35a-12:00p MKE-MSY #283 2:35p-5:05p
93 ultrapig : Where are they posted? don't see pr!
94 RL757PVD : Im guessing its actually a pretty hefty cut for a lot of places, even though im guessing most are probably temporary. PVD and BDL lose 3 frequencies,
95 alggag : No new cities added. I noticed LGA-BNA has been added.
96 enilria : I'm hearing that, in addition to some sort of announcement today, there will be an additional announcement of routes 7/16/2012 that will include the
97 RL757PVD : That makes sense as the 1/7-2/13 period is arguably the weakest period for any domestic route period with few exceptions.
98 knope2001 : LGA-BWI is gone, though EWR-BWI stands. LGA-BNA apparently is taking two of the three slot pairs released from BWI service -- not sure abuot the 3rd.
99 usflyguy : Added: BNA-LGA BNA-RSW FLL-PHX (resumes) MKE-MSY ONT-RNO Ending: (more intra-FL being chopped but most of the other long-hauls are seasonal cuts I thi
100 Cubsrule : Some backfill for the MCO-RSW cut? I wonder whether we'll see some city in this part of the country added to PBI to similarly "compensate" for the lo
101 GentFromAlaska : I'm assuming these are non-stops. The reason I ask I saw BNA-PVD on the current August schedule which stops in MDW with no change of aircraft.
102 av8orwalk : Ending MCO-FLL shocks the hell out of me. I fly the route weekly. At a complete loss for words here. I guess I'll be forced to fly Spirit. I remember
103 cessna2 : Very surprised to see this route ending.
104 ultrapig : Dumb question: Where is this posted and any suggestion as to why they have not posted schedule for the STL-DCA service since its only two months away?
105 usflyguy : Was the 9 dailies before or after FLL got all of the non-stops? A TON of commuting pilots and flight attendants. The same was said for MCO-RSW. Guess
106 Post contains images MSYtristar : Great to see MKE-MSY come back, and just in time for the peak cruise season. WN has been showing some love to NOLA as of late. Just like the old days.
107 gizmonc : The 4 slots that WN got from NK are 2100 slots and WN has asked for better times. Until those times are approved DCA STL is not posted. Last rumor I
108 avi8 : So can someone provide a summary for the routes that are ending and the routes that are starting?
109 Post contains links Cubsrule : http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/ja...chedule-opens-february-coming-week
110 stlgph : BWI-LGA is ending? I'm kind of surprised at that one - plus it was quite easy for me to make connections there for where I needed to go when I visit f
111 ouboy79 : It is a seasonal route. It'll be back.
112 AWACSooner : And the hits just keep on coming...jeez. Pretty soon, ABQ might just go away at the rate WN keeps cutting them! What gives?
113 ouboy79 : My opinion. I would guess ABQ-ELP is just a victim of reducing the short haul flying by Southwest. ABQ-STL is a seasonal route, it'll be back.
114 enilria : Both of those were always stupid. From what I hear there is one thing that has been retained from Air Tran and that was the airline's distaste for sh
115 sdoyon : I wouldn't hold my breath for ABQ come January 1, 2014. With DAL opening up, the 1-stops needed to access Love Field will be reduced faster than you
116 Flytravel : So, would EWR-BWI likely be replaced by EWR-ATL, EWR-MCO or something else? PHL-RDU goes to 2x and with the other changes, it will likely be eliminate
117 b757capt : Did I read the 2nd to last paragraph in the blog wrong? Eliminating MDW-TPA service????
118 Cubsrule : It's going all WN.
119 USAirALB : Wow. This route has never been made seasonal. A couple of years ago, ALBLAS was the best performing flight over 2000 miles.
120 usflyguy : Was that before BWI-SAN?
121 iowaman : This I wouldn't of guessed, as RNO hasn't been doing all that great lately. Can't imagine ONT-RNO will have stellar yields, although I see it will be
122 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Good to see MDW get an additional LGA frequency. Looks like the additional frequency is another morning flight at both MDW and LGA. Currently there a
123 avi8 : They are eliminating MDW-TPA?!! Are they insane??!!!! They basically cut more services than adding any new flights. I'm really dissapointed.[Edited 20
124 Cubsrule : Asked and answered . . .
125 FlyingSicilian : It seemed like UA was cutting 3-4 flights this winter also (IIRC 1 off from IAH, LAX and DEN?) Are things going bad in ABQ? I miss the old MAF flight
126 Post contains images wnflyguy : Seeing this schedule release it look like it's freeing up about 7 planes. Which will be used to connect some dots with airtran cities. If rumors are t
127 QANTAS747-438 : Yes, that is true with regards to a JUL 16 addition. I've never seen WN announce a schedule one week and then another one the next. That one may be i
128 Post contains images skycub : Indeed. Probably A LOT of very anxious commuters about to figure something else out to get to work. I also remember the days of 8 or 9 daily flights.
129 cessna2 : the article says "On the AirTran network, we’re converting Atlanta-Phoenix service to Southwest metal (from Mighty Teal to Canyon Blue!), and are s
130 SANFan : From the blog... So it's actually TWO weeks later... But I agree, just another facet of the NEW Southwest Airlines! And maybe even SAN-STL? I've been
131 Cubsrule : Yes. I don't see what's hard. The seasonal FL nonstop MDW-TPA, which has run for close to a decade, is not coming back. MDW-TPA is something like 5 d
132 b757capt : I don't ever recall FL running a MDW-TPA flight. Ever. Thats what is so hard. MDW-SRQ yes but never MDW-TPA. Somebody please prove me wrong.
133 skycub : No.. I must admit, when I read: "On the AirTran network, we’re converting Atlanta-Phoenix service to Southwest metal (from Mighty Teal to Canyon Bl
134 Cubsrule : My error - I was thinking RSW.
135 Post contains images SANFan : I went to the schedule display as well to completely understand the situation. bb
136 sdoyon : I think you're right. The amendment was repealed on 10/16/06; my mistake. I do think, however, that ABQ will be drastically diminished come that time
137 skycub : On a separate note.... and Mods, I would appreciate it if you would be kind enough to leave this posting even if it is off-topic.... I cannot help but
138 Post contains images Infiniti329 : Axeing LGA- BWI I dont get it. Every BWI bound flight is at a minimum at least 96% full.At the minimum of 85% of the time. Given the majority of the t
139 skycub : I know there is some talk about why WN would axe LGA-BWI.... But with ALL of the NON-STOPS between the New York area and Florida, is it not possible t
140 Infiniti329 : Westbound connections are made now via primarily through MDW.. and after August its fair to say alot of that traffic will shift to either DEN or STL
141 steex : I think WN decided they make far more money on O&D traffic than on connecting traffic. BWI-LGA provides virtually zero of the former despite work
142 Post contains images Cubsrule : Further, post-integration, ATL can handle a lot of the Florida traffic, and even some of the mid-Atlantic traffic (ORF, RDU, CLT), albeit not as well
143 Flytravel : There are also ISP's nonstops to Florida, so it must have been accounted that those doing LGA-BWI-FLL can fly ISP-FLL instead. LGA-ATL-FLL will be lo
144 Lambertman : Only thing that I can tell about St. Louis is that it gained a frequency to New Orleans. Not totally sure of their regular schedule but that's what ju
145 Cubsrule : I don't think EWR and LGA have ever been about passengers at those airports. They have been more about connecting WN passengers who originate other p
146 alggag : I second that and think it will continue to be the case. They might start to go for the NYC market a little once the FL and WN networks are fully com
147 b757capt : Looks like nonstop service on MDW-RSW is dropped for Jan. could that be the error, possible their blog should have said RSW and not TPA.
148 Cubsrule : Ha - maybe I was on to something even though I didn't know it. But WN does fly MDW-RSW, so the post would still be confusing with swapping RSW for TP
149 MSYtristar : MSY loses a frequency to MDW and LAS, but gains a frequency to BNA, DAL, FLL, and STL, in addition to the new MKE service. In total the combined FL/WN
150 mke717spotter : Anyone think there's a decent chance WN might also restart MKE-SAN once next summer/spring rolls around? I know F9 and FL were both flying the route,
151 usflyguy : Southwest Porch at Bryant Park is probably a pretty big advertising expense that, I would think, is targeting NYC residents as it's not exactly a tou
152 Post contains images SANFan : I would, unfortunately, be very surprised to see either of these routes (MKE, MSY) started up from SAN by WN. I'm afraid our station has peaked and h
153 wnflyguy : NEW rumored PNS service. PNS -HOU and PNS -STL. AC FLOW PNS-STL-DCA-STL-PNS-HOU-PNS. PNS-HOU-PNS-STL-DCA-STL-PNS. to accommodate the new DCA STL slots
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