asuflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5435 times:
B6 used to have maintenance done by Aveos (part of AC) at YEG, which doesn't exist anymore. Around 2006 it was contracted to Empire Aero in Rome, NY but now it think it is done by Aeroman in El Salvador.
atcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 667 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5089 times:
Quoting ha787 (Thread starter): I was wondering if early jet blue ever serviced any destinations in canada
No. It was probably there for maintenance or a charter. My understanding is that there is/was a reasonably close relationship with WestJet (back in the David Neeleman days). I don't know if this has anything to do with B6 not serving Canada or if it's because they wanted to focus on the US/Central America/Caribbean.
It seems to me that they could make money serving YYZ from JFK and/or BOS. Since they haven't done it in the 10+ years they've been in the air, there must be a pretty good reason why not.
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2655 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4706 times:
B6 will not go to Canada as the taxes and fees for landing at the airport are just too high...especially YYZ
If you notice, they fill up quite a few mainline flights out of BUF (up to 10 a day to JFK) as Canadian tourists leave their own country to search for cheaper options over the border.
northstardc4m From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2804 posts, RR: 40 Reply 8, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4421 times:
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B6 did make noises about YYZ, YUL, YHM and maybe? YYC service at various times, but never anything firm that i can recall. YYZ or YHM would be self defeating for them really; same pax as going to BUF with higher costs, as would YUL vs BTV.
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I don't think YYZ will ever see JetBlue since as it is most of the people that go out of BUF are from Canada. It's a lot more cost effective and faster in some cases than taking anything out of YYZ. I think I saw one estimate that 60% of travelers through Buffalo are from the Toronto.
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3171 times:
Quoting asuflyer (Reply 3): B6 used to have maintenance done by Aveos (part of AC) at YEG, which doesn't exist anymore. Around 2006 it was contracted to Empire Aero in Rome, NY but now it think it is done by Aeroman in El Salvador.
Currently the A320s are serviced by Aeroman in SAL, PEMCO in TPA and TIMCO in LCQ. E190s are done by EAMS in BNA.
It was YWG, correct. I don't think it was Aveos though, I think it was ACTS back when we used to use it...that was a long time ago LOL!
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 7): If you notice, they fill up quite a few mainline flights out of BUF (up to 10 a day to JFK) as Canadian tourists leave their own country to search for cheaper options over the border.
Every time I have been on the BTV-JFK flight, 1/2 of the customers onboard were speaking French LOL. We have a lot of Canadians crossing over and going out of BTV too!
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Some a/c also spent time at Exeltech (YUL) in 2009 for light maintenance.
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11): Every time I have been on the BTV-JFK flight, 1/2 of the customers onboard were speaking French LOL. We have a lot of Canadians crossing over and going out of BTV too!
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
Quoting queb (Reply 12): Some a/c also spent time at Exeltech (YUL) in 2009 for light maintenance.
Yes, that was a "trial run" to see about doing HMV checks up in YUL. I'm guessing it never worked out since we never wound up sending planes up there going forward from that trial. I forgot about that too, and I'm in a department that deals with that LOL!
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bobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1360 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
Taxes are what is keeping B6 out if Canada. Another problem is the trsnsborder market is over 60% Canada pos. this puts US carriers at ma distinct disadvantage.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21482 posts, RR: 24 Reply 15, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1449 times:
Quoting n797mx (Reply 10): It's a lot more cost effective and faster in some cases than taking anything out of YYZ.
Can't see how BUF could ever be faster than YYZ, unless you live closer to BUF than YYZ. From the YYZ city center to BUF airport is 108 miles (174 km), at least a 2 hour drive, plus the uncertain wait at one of the busiest Canada-U.S. border crossings.
contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
We only do charter service. I remember pushing a flight that was going JFK-YWG last year. Forgot who it was for but it was a charter.
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4280 posts, RR: 36 Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1338 times:
Quoting n797mx (Reply 10): I don't think YYZ will ever see JetBlue since as it is most of the people that go out of BUF are from Canada.
While some people flying out of BUF may be from Toronto, you also have to realize there are a million Canadians closer to BUF than YYZ. I would guess that BUF (and their local carriers) are tapping that market.
Quoting n797mx (Reply 10): I think I saw one estimate that 60% of travelers through Buffalo are from the Toronto.
From Canada maybe, but not from Toronto. The drive from the Toronto area is a horror show at best. You travel along one of Canada's busiest highways, one that is most prone to traffic jams ... to hit a border, that I have heard waits up to two hours long to cross. In summer the Niagara Falls traffic can be backed up as far as St. Catherines!
Then, if you want to try it in winter, it's even worse. If the lake effect snow doesn't get you in BUF itself, it will along the QEW from Hamilton to Niagara!
You have no idea how many times I have heard people bragging about the low fares out of BUF, only a month later to be telling the tale of woe of missed flights trying to get there.
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yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 18, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 984 times:
Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 14): Taxes are what is keeping B6 out if Canada.
Partially, maybe. If JB felt there was money to be made in YYZ, they would fly here.
The Toronto-NYC market is very competitive. Look at all these players with nonstops:
YYZ-JFK: AC, AA, DL
YYZ-LGA: AC, AA, WS
YYZ-EWR: AC, UA
YTZ-EWR: PD
JB would only be interested in YYZ-JFK and with 3 carriers offering nonstops already, I doubt they would bite.
Quoting longhauler (Reply 17): From Canada maybe, but not from Toronto. The drive from the Toronto area is a horror show at best.
I know people that regularly drive to BUF from Toronto for cheap flights. The drive is not bad off-hours although I've never done it to catch a flight from BUF, and likely never will. If you check the fares on WN, JetBlue and AirTran flights from BUF, its amazing how low they are to even so-called low fares from YYZ.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21482 posts, RR: 24 Reply 19, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 943 times:
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 18): Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 14):
Taxes are what is keeping B6 out if Canada.
Partially, maybe. If JB felt there was money to be made in YYZ, they would fly here.
The Toronto-NYC market is very competitive. Look at all these players with nonstops:
YYZ-JFK: AC, AA, DL
YYZ-LGA: AC, AA, WS
YYZ-EWR: AC, UA
YTZ-EWR: PD
JB would only be interested in YYZ-JFK and with 3 carriers offering nonstops already, I doubt they would bite.
Currently 72 daily nonstops Toronto-New York (all carriers/airports combined).
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