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QR To Join An Alliance Within Next 12 Months  
User currently offlineLX138 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 401 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18617 times:

Confirmed by their CEO: http://www.travelweekly.com.au/trave...-to-join-alliance-within-12-months


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18479 times:

It will be oneworld.

[Edited 2012-07-04 02:20:52]

User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18455 times:

Whatever happens.....once one goes.........

Be interesting that's for sure.

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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18456 times:

I'll be absolutely delighted if QR joint OneWorld.

Makes a lot of sense i think.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18455 times:

Interesting development. Now the question is: will it be Star Alliance or Oneworld ?


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6961 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18434 times:

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 2):
Whatever happens.....once one goes.........

I can see Etihad following but I doubt if Emirates would. In fact, would an alliance want Emirates...? It's a bit like inviting a gorilla to share your taxi.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1177 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18200 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1):
It will be oneworld.

Surely, EY would be OneWorld's desired partner. Especially after their investment in AB.


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18109 times:
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I actually envisaged EY joining OW and QR as a likely *A member, interesting times regardless.


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User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18092 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 6):
Surely, EY would be OneWorld's desired partner. Especially after their investment in AB.

Actually wasn't there just a post with a link to a French article saying that AF/KLM was going to work much closer with EY... Maybe a prelude to EY joining SkyTeam?


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17867 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 7):
I actually envisaged EY joining OW and QR as a likely *A member, interesting times regardless.

Given Etihads alliance with Virgin Australia, I doubt Qantas would support it.


User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17695 times:

Funny... I thought Qatar was a LH partner... But it still shows that it is partner with ANA, Asiana, United and US Airways... I guess that qualifies it more for Star Alliance than OneWorld in my book...

... And since Etihad owns AirBerlin, I guess I would agree with LOWS is saying that it would make sense that Etihad is more the candidate for OneWorld!

Quoting PM (Reply 5):
In fact, would an alliance want Emirates...? It's a bit like inviting a gorilla to share your taxi.

Love that comment... And couldn't agree more!


User currently offlinenzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17609 times:

Looks like QF and QR are getting cosy
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business...rways/story-fn7j19iv-1226417059948



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17596 times:

Anyone else thinking EY and QR to Oneworld?


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineTYCOON From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 416 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17556 times:

Given the confirmation in the press of a pending agreement to pool revenue on selected flights between EY and AF/KL, I say if EY goes anywhere it will be Skyteam, and then AB would leave OneWorld and move to Skyteam.

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17514 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 12):
Anyone else thinking EY and QR to Oneworld?

No way both would end up in the same alliance.



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17399 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 14):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 12):
Anyone else thinking EY and QR to Oneworld?

No way both would end up in the same alliance.

Sure? Why not?

I fail to see what the difference is betwen those two and TG and SQ in the same alliance?

Traffic patterns and markets very similar, same business models, same hub strategy, similar yield profile and similar targets.

Both are distinct countries, some distance apart. Same with QR and EY.

EY and QR both have captive O&D markets serving their own cities, but also have much larger transit pax markets. Some degree of rationalisation on some transit pax routes all but inevitable for the Gulf carriers, so why cant it take place under an alliance umbrella?

QR not as strong as EY into Aus, whereas QR much stronger than EY into Asia. Under OneWorld think of EY as QF’s partner, and QR as CX and MH’s.

Given how strong EK are and are likely to get, surely the Gulf carriers need to ask what they want to get out of an alliance – why cant they be in an alliance together?

Half hourly shuttles on a mixture of QR/EY metal between DOH and AUH feeding their own and OneWorld partners flights out of both hubs?

Given that its looking unlikely OneWorld will have an Indian partner - why not just take a massive chunk of the into-India market instead?

Seriously, why cant it work?

[Edited 2012-07-04 05:00:22]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17396 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 12):
Anyone else thinking EY and QR to Oneworld?

I was actually but 'daren't' say it....



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User currently offlineOEH68 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17148 times:

QR in OneWorld would be fantastic! I like their product very much, their service is amazing.


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User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16947 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 15):
Seriously, why cant it work?

It can work.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 15):
Given how strong EK are and are likely to get, surely the Gulf carriers need to ask what they want to get out of an alliance – why cant they be in an alliance together?

EY and QR in the same alliance might not stop EK in its tracks but it would certainly make them look back over their shoulder.

If EY and QR want to maximize the impact of their ops on EK in terms of competition then this is the way to do it.



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1856 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16914 times:

There´s another thread talking about close cooperation between QR and QF so that make me think that they will join oneworld.

We can see nice connectivity with IB in MAD T-4 to Latin-America and some parts of USA. That would be fantastic for QR in LHR to USA as well as HKG to China and Japan.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16655 times:

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 16):
Quoting mikey72 (Reply 18):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 15):
Seriously, why cant it work?

It can work.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 15):
Given how strong EK are and are likely to get, surely the Gulf carriers need to ask what they want to get out of an alliance – why cant they be in an alliance together?

EY and QR in the same alliance might not stop EK in its tracks but it would certainly make them look back over their shoulder.

If EY and QR want to maximize the impact of their ops on EK in terms of competition then this is the way to do it.

As usual you and I on same page Mikey.

Imagine how powerful OneWorld would be on the UK/Europe/USA - India/Pakistan traffic then. Compelling indeed.

We'd certainly see the demise of BA metal into AUH and DOH (do they even still fly there?) but funelling BA/BD's UK and Euro short-haul feed through QR and EY's LHR shuttles (A380s anyone?) would strengthen their position considerably.

Longer term you can then start looking at ceasing Aus/NZ flights on QR metal, but adding QF and QR flight numbers to the EY flights ex-AUH.

Oneworld then has an Austrategy - you have a lot of premium seats down under, and a lot of Y seats that can be more profitably carried ex-AUH for the really low yielding Y tourist class stuff.

Not saying its likely, just think its a lot more possible than people think.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16415 times:

EY is from Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi is ruled by a francophile. France has always had tight connections with the emirs there hence naval base etc. Ey will move to skyteam after the emir has told management what he wants.

With the recent tie up between AF/KL and EY, and its a substantial agreement plus that they have the intent of using AB in partnership with AF/KL and a few more things, Id say EY is unlikely to be moving towards oneworld. Skyteam seems more likely and I wouldn't be surprised to see AB follow suit.

QR to oneworld absolutely possible. Seems a good choice by QR.



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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16332 times:

I'd expect (speculation) to see EY go to *S and QR go to *O.

I think LH learned its lesson when it let TK in - I wouldn't expect any more gulf carriers in *A.



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User currently offlineLX138 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16331 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 20):
Not saying its likely, just think its a lot more possible than people think.

Yeah I don't think all of that is actually likely! Although if it went through, some of it would work.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 20):
We'd certainly see the demise of BA metal into AUH and DOH (do they even still fly there?)

Why do you think that would happen? (And yes they still fly there).



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16240 times:
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If partners are any sign, I am quite sure QR will join Star.

But seeing that this is QR, with their "big mouthed" management style, I guess any alliance is possible. Heck given his ego, QR might even start their own alliance  



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25 AAExecPlat : It will be OW. QR and UA just discontinued their partnerships/codesharing and QR will no longer be bookable on UA awards. They are pulling away from U
26 EK413 : I'll say OW... EY have jumped into bed with VA & AB... VA have jumped into bed with NZ, SQ and DL even though DL is a Skyteam member I highly dou
27 aznmadsci : As mentioned UA and QR are no longer partners. Yet, that does not mean much and it could all change again. What does that mean? Does that apply to MS
28 vincewy : So it looks like - QR - OW EY - ST *A - well it already has TK so I don't know if there's any benefit (even if it's marginal) of another one. Now what
29 EK413 : I guess what he is indicating is a similar scenario with SQ being a * member however not cooperating with other partners and same goes for TK.... I'm
30 TWA772LR : Im putting my money on star. I know they codeshare with US on DOH-IAH and UA on IAH-DCA. Interesting times ahead.
31 LAXdude1023 : Given they just terminated all agreements with United, Star is doubtful.
32 ASA : I agree. Also, why would TK want QR in Star Alliance??? ... they are pretty much competing head-to-head for US, Europe, Africa, and Far East flights.
33 Viscount724 : I disagree with your TG/SQ comments. They are very different carriers. BKK is largely a low-yield tourist destination in contrast to SIN which is one
34 leftyboarder : It is not about TK not cooperating closely with LH/UA/SQ etc but rather competing directly with LH for the market between Americas and Europe to anyw
35 smbukas : AFAIK, LH is happy having TK in *A. They see TK as a good competitor for MEB3. Keep your competitors close to you - that is the strategy which someti
36 boeing773ER : Hahahahahahah, I laughed so hard about that because I can just imagine him launching his own alliance. It would be called the "Ego" alliance.
37 idlewildchild : Why do they show when I check availability for miles JNB-JFK as part of Star ALliance? Aren'tthey in STAR already?
38 kl911 : Why is everybody hoping that they will join Oneworld or Star? Dont forget about Skyteam. I honestly hope they or EY will join Sky.
39 aerorobnz : The airline industry is rather topsy-turvy as airlines do whatever they think will keep them profitable. The way the alliance members of all the big 3
40 runway23 : One can wonder if it had to be redone today, whether TK would once again opt for Star and be accepted into Star. At this stage they would probably ga
41 ZKOJH : Star alliance have already said they are NOT talking to any of the airlines from the gulf area, would be nice to see them get QR but think its a no st
42 delta2ual : I would be very surprised if any of the three big ME carriers joined Star (as much as I would like them too). I think Turkish Airlines (which is a gre
43 Sydscott : EY is Virgins partner. Lets be honest, both QR and EY are getting substantial traffic shares from Australia's relatively liberal regulatory environme
44 Sydscott : The basic premise of international route authorities is to get people from point A to point B as efficiently as possible while facilitating passenger
45 lightsaber : I think QR is looking for the best deal. IMHO, this will be a tough negotiation for any alliance that wants them (which all three should). Yes it will
46 avek00 : No, it's not. From the beginning, the international route authority regime was NEVER intended for the likes of EK/EY/QR to do what they do. They make
47 Sydscott : Considering they've merely copied what airlines such as SQ and CX have done that argument really doesn't hold much water. Yes and no. International r
48 lightsaber : EK is constrained by bilarals. Many of the secondary markets they enter need the connections. For example, why would Poland constrain QR or EK? WAW w
49 nomorerjs : If *, ORD-DOH is a given (one would think). Yet another reason for EK to avoid ORD (I don't think it will ever happen now). If 1World, ORD-DOH is a gi
50 hz747300 : Me too! a smart salmon never asks for directions
51 mikey72 : That's the best post I've read for donkey's years. Whilst the rest of us have all been caught with our knickers down (for the second time no less a l
52 mikey72 : Sorry but that's just 'SO' Chinese....I love it. Got to remember that one.
53 mikey72 : Just adding on from what I said earlier.... Maybe we should just have 2 alliances. (Don't really care and does it really matter which names are retain
54 Viscount724 : There are many exceptions to that. KLM is a good example in Europe. Sixth freedom connecting traffic is by far the most important component of KL's t
55 jumpjets : even in the Yemen.,..
56 toxtethogrady : Actually, given their startup of service to IAD and IAH in the US, I had thought they had such close relations with UA that they would be joining Sta
57 LAXdude1023 : UA and QR severed ties. Had they not, I would have agreed. I also have a reliable source that told me officials from QR were at DFW getting logistica
58 hohd : Not sure if BA would like this, especially since it is one of most important members of oneworld. QR and BA go head to head in many Asia, Africa and E
59 aznmadsci : If QR did join OneWorld, would you suggest they transfer IAH service to DFW?
60 LAXdude1023 : I dont know about that, I really think they are just exploring options. They will probably visit ATL, ORD, and DTW as well when making an alliance de
61 AABB777 : Even if QR joined oneworld there is no way DFW could generate the premium O&D revenue that IAH generates for QR. Houston is the energy capital of
62 eagle125 : QR to DFW I think would have to heavily depend on O/D given the market, but add the vast AA network through DFW and this flight should work in additi
63 LAXdude1023 : Thats true. I do think that DFW would work for QR if (and this is a big if) QR joins OneWorld and QR and AA build strong ties with each other. Lackin
64 EddieDude : Well, I beg to differ. They are weak in the Indian subcontinent, but they have a nice coverage of Asia: MEA and Saudia in the Middle East region, Chi
65 aeroblogger : Every airline is weak in the Indian subcontinent... If weak in India = weak in Asia, every carrier is weak in Asia.
66 Post contains links Markam : I cannot provide an official source for this yet, so take it with a grain of salt as a rumor if you wish, but according to an informal source in Qatar
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