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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 20596 times:

Hello,

I have always been wondering why there isn' t a topic about the french aviation like so many other countries or states. So let' s try it !

Air France has just unveiled its new website today : AIRFRANCE

Cheers

Dennis   


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User currently onlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 20589 times:

Quoting Alsatian (Thread starter):
Air France has just unveiled its new website today : AIRFRANCE

Correct me if I am wrong but either I have seen that same site before or it is very similar to their previous site.



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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 20500 times:

You are right. The "old" version is online again as the new website will be launched on july 11th actually. I have seen the new pages this afternoon, probably a test. It looked nice anyway.


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User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 20476 times:

Hi

Are Eastern Airways flying from Dijon to Southampton this summer?

Can seam to find it on either the French or the UK version of their website.

Alex


User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 20459 times:

Quoting Richcandy (Reply 3):
Are Eastern Airways flying from Dijon to Southampton this summer?

No, this seasonal route was lauched last summer but will not resume this year. 1600 passengers were handled between june and october 2011.



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User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 20362 times:

Was anyone else surprised by the Emirates Lyon announcement? Only because of its proximity to Geneva.


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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 20130 times:

It looks like AirFrance stikes back on some domestic markets. Volotea announced one month ago 5 weekly flight between Bordeaux and Strasbourg from october 1st. According to www.airfrance.fr AF will reinstate a 3rd daily flight on this route from september 3rd :

AF 5473 BOD 0840 - 1005 SXB 123456- E70
AF 5477 BOD 1725 - 1845 SXB 12345-- ER4
AF 5479 BOD 2115 - 2240 SXB 12345-7 E70

V7 2410 BOD 1040 - 1225 SXB 1------ 717
V7 2410 BOD 1715 - 1850 SXB --345-7 717


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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 20067 times:

AirFrance announced today many routes and frequencies cuts from its 3 regional bases ( MRS, TLS and NCE ) :

Latest Cancellations:
Marseille – Basel – Mulhouse eff 01AUG12 3 weekly (Previously to be cancelled from 03SEP12)
Toulouse – Marseille eff 09SEP12 3 weekly (Reservation to be closed in coming days)

Previously reported cancellations, effective 03SEP12:
Marseille – Barcelona 2 weekly
Marseille – Beirut 3 weekly
Marseille – Dusseldorf 3 weekly

Previously reported cancellations, effective 28OCT12. These flights has been removed on 05JUL12:
Marseille – Brest 4 weekly
Marseille – Copenhagen 3 weekly
Marseille – Hamburg Service to be terminated from 01JUL12
Marseille – Istanbul 4 weekly
Nice – Naples 2 weekly
Toulouse – Athens 4 weekly
Toulouse – Berlin Tegel 4 weekly
Toulouse – Malaga 3 weekly
Toulouse – Vienna 4 weekly

Latest Service Reductions, effective 28OCT12:
Marseille – Casablanca Reduce from 4 weekly to 3 weekly
Marseille – Prague Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly
Marseille – Tunis Reduce from 8 weekly to daily
Nice – Paris Orly Reduce from 21 to 19 daily
Toulouse – Istanbul Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly

Previously reporte cancellations, effective 03SEP12:
Marseille – Bordeaux Reduces from 4 to 3 Daily
Marseille – Brest Reduces from daily to 4 weekly (To be cancelled from 28OCT12)
Marseille – Hamburg Reduces from 4 to 3 weekly
Marseille – Lille Sundays service reduce from 2 to 1 flight

AIRFRANCE has announced frequency reductions on following routes in its daily bulletin in the GDS, however it does not match current availability/schedule listing:
Marseille – Athens eff 28OCT12 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly (GDS displays only 2 weekly)
Nice – Venice eff 28OCT12 Reduces from 3 to 1 weekly (GDS displays 2 weekly)
Toulouse – Hamburg eff 28OCT12 Reduce from 5 to 4 weekly (GDS displays 3 weekly)
Toulouse – Prague eff 28OCT12 Reduce from 5 to 1 weekly (GDS displays 2 weekly)

Source : Airline Route



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User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19808 times:

Air France will add three weekly flights from Lyon to Budapest, flights will be operated by a CRJ-1000.

AF5978 LYS 1055 – 1300BUD
AF5979 BUD 1345 – 1540LYS


User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 19603 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 1):
Quoting Alsatian (Thread starter):
Air France has just unveiled its new website today : AIRFRANCE


Correct me if I am wrong but either I have seen that same site before or it is very similar to their previous site.

The new site is online now : AIRFRANCE



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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 19433 times:

AIRFRANCE to convert Strasbourg - Venice seasonal service to year-round :

AF 5452 SXB 1155 - 1310 VCE 1------ ER4
AF 5452 SXB 0825 - 0940 VCE ----5-- ER4

AF 5453 VCE 1345 - 1510 SXB 1------ ER4
AF 5453 VCE 1015 - 1140 SXB ----5-- ER4



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User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 19171 times:

Thanks a lot Alsatian for starting this thread  
In link with this thread about how nice and scenic landing in NCE is :
Nice Airport (LFMN)Questions (by saleya22R Jul 19 2012 in Civil Aviation)
I thought we could share what are the airports/landings we prefer in France, for whatever reason. For me :
1- NCE for the reasons described in the above-mentioned thread
2- AJA : whatever the active runway is, arriving above Ajaccio bay is really fantastic. At the time AF was flying a 743 on one of the multiple daily rotation during the summer, I did several times the approach above the city and turning very low in the middle of the hills with the jumbo to finally align it on the runway facing the sea is an incredible landing experience.
3- FSC : when landing facing south (which is not so common) and that means entering Porto Vecchio bay after having passed Rondinara beach, and you fly over beautiful criques and beaches before finally landing in FSC
4- MRS : when you turn above the sea to have the city on your right and chateau d'If on your left. I don't know why but it seems that this approach is less and less used (or even not used anymore) because I haven't had this approach for a very long time (just bad luck or approaches procedures have changed ?)
5- LRT : well this choice will probably surprise some of you but I always found this airport layout very interesting. For those of you who doesn't know this airport, Lorient is an important city in Britanny. The airport is a military airbase (Lann Bihoué) which includes a small civil terminal. The runway is very wide and very long (meaning they never used thrust reversers to land there). The runway has plenty of trees on one side of it (which is quite unusual) and taxiways to serve various parts of the military airbase and the civil terminal are located at both ends of the runway. So this means that taxi to the terminal always take long time but in the middle of the trees, like if you were driving with your car on a forest road. This is for me a unique airport for the layout and always found it interesting

So that's my list. What about your list, guys ?  


User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19117 times:

Quoting goldorak (Reply 11):
Thanks a lot Alsatian for starting this thread

Glad to read a good feedback goldorak. I am sure that you will be a major contributor of this thread !



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User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 19018 times:

From november, Ryanair will cut some Madrid and Barcelona flights. Among the routes with reduced frequencies there will be :

MAD - BVA
MAD- MRS
BCN - BVA

Ryanair Cuts Madrid & Barcelona Flights In Response To Spanish Govt Tax Increases



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User currently offlinesaleya22R From France, joined Mar 2007, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 18983 times:
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Quoting goldorak (Reply 11):

Goldorak, your list is very interesting. Unfortunately my experience of French airports (the exciting ones) is too limited to give a list.
Maybe in a year or two maybe I'm able to do that. I have never even visited Corsica nearby. It's in my plans for sure!
On a side note, when world's most dangerous airports are listed, Courchevel is usually included. Anyone landed there? I've been skiing there many years ago.
You land uphill right?
Saleya22R


User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 18893 times:

Quoting goldorak (Reply 11):

All very nice, I agree, but the best French approaches are a bit further from Paris: St. Barths (my preferred), Papeete and some of the other Polynesian ones, also the jungle airports in French Guyana are very scenic to fly into


User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 18732 times:

AIRFRANCE plans to cancel the Strasbourg - Paris CDG route from december.

In french : AIRFRANCE va fermer la ligne Strasbourg-Roissy



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User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 18593 times:

Quoting saleya22R (Reply 14):
On a side note, when world's most dangerous airports are listed, Courchevel is usually included. Anyone landed there? I've been skiing there many years ago.
You land uphill right?

You are right, this is probably the most dangerous and scenic one !! Not so much people have landed there but I know there a a few on this forum.

Quoting mozart (Reply 15):
All very nice, I agree, but the best French approaches are a bit further from Paris: St. Barths (my preferred), Papeete and some of the other Polynesian ones, also the jungle airports in French Guyana are very scenic to fly into

Of course, probably very nice to land/take-off there. I have never visited those places, yet  
Quoting Alsatian (Reply 16):
AIRFRANCE plans to cancel the Strasbourg - Paris CDG route from december

This is really schocking news  Wow! . Of course, we all know the TGV is making a killing on Paris-Strasbourg, but I would never have bet a cent on the axing of the CDG route. I would have been sure that they would have dropped first the ORY route.

Quoting goldorak (Reply 11):
4- MRS : when you turn above the sea to have the city on your right and chateau d'If on your left. I don't know why but it seems that this approach is less and less used (or even not used anymore) because I haven't had this approach for a very long time (just bad luck or approaches procedures have changed ?)

Well, I should have wait just a bit before writing this. Because I flew to MRS last week end and we did this approach. Very nice !


User currently offlineAFCDGPTP From France, joined Dec 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 18512 times:

That's a great thing to see a french avaiation thread !

on the 15th of DEC, XL airways France is launching CDG PTP (3x week); and CDG FDF (3x week) using an 333 that they will be getting in NOV with a 2-class configuration holding 408 seats ! (Ouch !)

(Sorry in french)

http://www.domactu.com/actualite/127...deloupe-parispointe-a-pitre-a-399/

XL France currently operates:
2 A332 (2-class 364 seats)
3 B737-800 (189 seats)
1 A320 (180Y)

Former XL (Star Airlines) did operate PTP & FDF from CDG for a few months for T.O Look Voyages

XK is also launching RUN & Mayotte from CDG on the 6th of DEC


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 18451 times:

Could the closure of the route from Paris to Strasbourg have to do with the fact that STR is so close? Not to mention that FRA is roughly 2 hours by bus.

When I was looking at flights to Strasbourg via Air France, they were not competitive at all. Flying into STR or flying on Lufthansa via Frankfurt (FRA to SXB is operated by a bus) were much cheaper.

Air France is accused very often of neglecting the countryside and focusing only on Paris. But the fact that their regional hub system went down in flames just goes to prove how they were right in the first place.


User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 18432 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 19):
Could the closure of the route from Paris to Strasbourg have to do with the fact that STR is so close? Not to mention that FRA is roughly 2 hours by bus.

No. The TGV high speed train competition is the reason. Paris-Strasbourg is only 2 hrs by train now.


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 18424 times:

Quoting goldorak (Reply 20):

But I thought that Air France would aim at attracting some connecting traffic from SXB. It must be a high yielding traffic.


User currently offlineAlsatian From France, joined May 2005, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 18420 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 21):
But I thought that Air France would aim at attracting some connecting traffic from SXB. It must be a high yielding traffic.


AF wants to continue to catch this traffic but unfortunately via the TGV. AF will have an agreement with the SNCF on the Strasbourg - Paris CDG railway sector just like the existing Bruxelles - Paris CDG service. There will be an AIRFRANCE counter at Strasbourg station, passengers will be able to do the check in there... Sad news for SXB anyway.



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User currently offlineicna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 18377 times:

Quoting Alsatian (Reply 7):
AirFrance announced today many routes and frequencies cuts from its 3 regional bases ( MRS, TLS and NCE ) :

Waw. Are they dismanteling everything they set up just a year earlier? It seems like they were the only ones believing it could work. And it isn't...
A year is way too short to establish that many flights! Either they could sustain several years at a loss or they shouldn't have gone for it in the first place. I'd take the second solution. In the end, this erratic behavior doesn't serve them any good, whether on the PR side or (and especially) on the financial side. What a waste!

Quoting goldorak (Reply 17):
I would have been sure that they would have dropped first the ORY route.

Indeed! The train competes mostly against ORY and the point-to-point, frequent flights. SXB should still be connected to the waves of the CDG hubs, as are Clermont-Ferrand, Pau or other smaller cities.
It's similar to the impact on LYS: La Navette to Orly was all but dropped and flights to CDG do well with connection passengers.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 19):
their regional hub system went down in flames

What hub? LYS? CFE? The latter was killed by the former, and if the former isn't doing so well it's because AF tried their "provincial bases" strategy. Yep, the one that's failing miserably. So maybe the hub in Lyon has reasons to exist after all!


User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18230 times:

If we believe press reports, AirFrance offers packages ranging from €30,000 to 60,000 for pilots to accept their transfer to Transavia France.
AirFrance considers that it has about 450 pilots too many.
About 60 pilots are required by Transavia France to man 6 additional planes.
So far no official statement from AirFrance's management.


25 Post contains links Alsatian : AIRFRANCE to launch Lyon - Goteborg from september 17th : AF 3224 LYS 1500 - 1725 GOT ----5-- ER4 AF 3224 LYS 1730 - 1955 GOT 1234--7 ER4 AF 3225 GOT
26 LJ : I don't know if already mentioned, but AF will reduce CDG-ATH to twice daily A319 instead of 3 daily in W12.
27 goldorak : yes, and not only AF. All carriers are downsizing ATH.
28 76er : Would you be able to provide a source?
29 Post contains links Alsatian : Here is one (in french) : Pilotes Air France : 6 mois de salaire pour aller chez Transavia
30 76er : Merci beaucoup! Doesn't look like a very attractive offer in the long term. I don't expect many volunteers.
31 Post contains links Alsatian : Vueling has axed its Toulouse - Lille route. 4 flights per week were launched with A319 since late march. AIRFRANCE and easyJet are still operating be
32 Post contains links Alsatian : There is a petition online to try to reverse this decision : http://www.avaaz.org/fr/petition/a_2/?cLTUpdb
33 Post contains links Alsatian : According to La Tribune, AIRFRANCE plans to launch international flights ex Paris Orly from late october. The destinations would be ATH, CMN, IST and
34 Post contains links Alsatian : Next summer Skywork will fly daily from Berne to Nice ( an increase from 3 fligths per week this season ) : SX 430 BRN 1600 - 1710 NCE SX 431 NCE 1740
35 Post contains links goldorak : Now it's BritAir who is considering to propose to some pilots a temporary assignment at Garuda (on CRJ1000). Link in French (sorry) : http://fr.finan
36 Post contains links Alsatian : Some news about the future of the AF' feeders ( BritAir, Regional and Airlinair ) : In french : Air France précise les contours de son prochain pôle
37 debonair : Seems the A330 is a very popular plane in France! Any idea where this A333 is coming from? And will it be possible for a full loaded A333 to reach PTP
38 Alsatian : It means : two new A330-300s will join the fleet late 2012, then all the fleet will be refurbished by the middle of 2013.
39 goldorak : I didn't hear anything about this, but may be it's true. We'll see ! I doubt Aigle Azur will go so far. They announced before the summer their intent
40 r2rho : What is going on? Many of those routes have only been active a couple of months! I actually saw some potential in a less Paris-centric strategy, but
41 Post contains links and images Alsatian : More details about the fleet of the future AIRFRANCE regional carrier : BritAir : 1 CRJ-1000 and 4 CRJ-100s to leave the fleet and 2 CRJ-700s to arriv
42 r2rho : OK for the CR1's and CR7's, but the CRK is brand new and apparently performing well, why would they get rid of that? Get rid of another few CR1's ins
43 Post contains links Alsatian : XLAirways to launch Marseilles - New york from 31MAY13. Flights will be bookable from 1500UTC today with 3000 return tickets from 449euros taxes inclu
44 AF185 : Hi all, After 10 years reading A.net forums every day, I have finally joined the community. This is my first post! I am wondering what will be the imp
45 Post contains links and images Alsatian : Glad you start with the French aviation thread ! Some changes for S13 are loaded on the AIRFRANCE site. Here are some frequencies reductions from CDG
46 goldorak : yes, it has been announced by QF that this code-share agreement with AF will end in march 2013. Yes, those are possible alternatives. Add VN to the l
47 sxb : Does anyone know how Volotea is doing on the French market (or even overall) so far?
48 Post contains links Alsatian : I don't have any figure but we can see on Volotea's website some suffs : NTE - ETZ reduced to 2 weekly instead of 3 untill late october NTE - SXB to
49 Post contains links Alsatian : AF could postpone the SXB-CDG route cancellation. In french : LaFermetureDeLaLigneStrasbourgRoissyPourraitEtreDecalee
50 ju068 : With all these cancellations and reductions taking place at Air France, what will happen with the extra capacity? Will their fleet shrink of will thes
51 ju068 : I would also like to add that according to a Serbian aviation news portal, Air France will be replacing Voyageur and Affaires with Economy and Busines
52 Alsatian : The fleet of the feeders (BritAir, Regional and Airlinair) will be reduced from 93 to 86 airliners :
53 ju068 : Thanks for that. But what about the reduction from routes which were operated by Air France such as Belgrade, Athens...?
54 Post contains links Alsatian : Some answers about the Nantes' base : In french : VoloteaAeroportdeNantes 53 900 passengers carried from/to NTE between 1JUN and 15SEP 724 flights du
55 Post contains links Alsatian : easyJet to open BOD - LIL, its third route from LIL
56 Post contains links AF185 : ORY airport will be renovated and modernized by 2018 with an investment of 600 million to 700M million euros (a bit less than 1 Billion USD). The plan
57 r2rho : Great news, I've always believed ORY has a lot more potential. I'm eager to see more detailed plans about this. A true direct metro (or would it be R
58 SR4ever : We may also see some AF longhaul flights other than on COI routes. NYC would be a good candidate (remember the ORY-EWR flight from 1990 to 1996). HND
59 AF185 : It will be a driver less metro which will go to Paris downtown. This line is part of the large Paris suburban area metro project ("Grand Paris") whic
60 AirGabon : Very funny... it was because of this agreement with QF that AF has always blocked MH to join SkyTeam... MH had the support of KL and MH tried during
61 breiz : Nothing new about the fact that AF has taken over AMS-MRS from KLM. I experienced it first hand these past days, after many years of KLM's service. Ou
62 goldorak : I think you are completely dreaming. It's not because ORY will be modernized (clearly needed) and because it will have maybe (in 20 years at best) a
63 af185 : In any case, GA is a great addition to Skyteam and no doubt it will be a strong AF partner in the coming years. I have flown GA this year, it is an e
64 Post contains links Alsatian : AIRFRANCE to launch new routes to Casablanca, Istanbul and Moscow from Paris Orly in S13 : AF 1992 ORY 0900 - 1055 CMN D 318 AF 1993 CMN 1145 - 1535 O
65 Post contains links viasa : XL Airways France sold? http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...or-beachside-capital#disqus_thread
66 varig md-11 : Thanks for this piece of information! The ex-owner from Iceland wanted to get rid of it sooner or later anyhow, now it's done. I just hope one day AF
67 Post contains images PHX787 : Hi guys, just passing through here, a good read in this thread I've only been to CDG once but the one thing that stood out was this: Are there always
68 breiz : It has been so for a very long time (almost 40 years). You have to remember, or know, that France was subject to terrorist activity loooong before th
69 goldorak : In fact, it is a transfer to ORY of one of the daily frequency currently operated from CDG. Those flights will be all Y.
70 Post contains links Alsatian : More details about the Paris-Orly airport improvements : In french : Orly2018
71 r2rho : So it looks like a significant makeover of the terminals with the creation of 100000m2 of new surface. ORY will go from 2 "terminals" (check-in/secur
72 Post contains links Alsatian : According to Le Télégramme, Volotea will operate flights from Brest next summer : (in french) VoloteaArriveàBrest And a new Strasbourg - Biarritz r
73 Post contains links Alsatian : After Brest, Toulouse is the second french city to join the Volotea's network this week. Flights to Ajaccio and Bastia are schedulded.
74 SR4ever : ATL, BEY, PVG and ICN are key non-European hubs within the SkyTeam network (and AUH may join that list at a later stage). Given the location of ORY,
75 Post contains links r2rho : That is very reassuring to hear! I agree Orlyval was/is a bad joke and I was fearing that the same mistake would be repeated again... I had no idea a
76 Post contains links Alsatian : easyJet will start GVA - LIL from march 29th. It will be the 4th U2's route from Lille (after Nice, Toulouse and Bordeaux) : DS 1471 GVA 1045 - 1205 L
77 Post contains links Alsatian : Volotea cancels Metz / Nancy service from january : VoloteaàMNLc'estfini V7 will drop Nantes – Metz / Nancy service, where it currently operates 2
78 Post contains links Alsatian : Lufthansa will start a direct link between Frankfurt and Strasbourg airport during the European Parliament Sessions : in french : LHouvreFrancfort LH
79 RAGAZZO777 : I've always wondered why Lufthansa doesn't serve Strasbourg from Munich on airplanes on a regular basis.
80 Post contains images Alsatian : On the Nice airport' s website we can find Virgin flights to LHR operated by A320 in july. Add one hour to get the local time :
81 sxb : They've tried several times and it didn't work. I do remember LH flying ATR between SXB and FRA in the 90s. It was dropped for slots reason (on the F
82 Post contains links breiz : "Air France-KLM, Air Berlin and Abu Dhabi's Etihad, the German airline's biggest shareholder, said on Oct. 8 they plan to start connecting their netwo
83 Post contains links Alsatian : Some announcements for Ryanair in the french market this week : A come back to Strasbourg and Clermont and a first time to Brive : - Strasbourg to Lon
84 skiaplg : Somewhat good news for CFE - I've flown into the airport multiple times, and it's an absolute breeze there, I much prefer it to getting the train to P
85 Post contains images Alsatian : Regional Airlines used to operate a relatively strong regional hub at Clermont during late 90s and early 2000s. Then Air France purchased Regional an
86 Aquila3 : I really miss Regional. It offered a nice and fast business service for almost everywhere in F from MXP. I still remember the "moving gate Bus " for c
87 Post contains links and images Alsatian : At the beginning : View Large View MediumPhoto © Axel J. Then : View Large View MediumPhoto © Alphajet.jpb Indeed Saab : and Dornier 328 (formerly
88 Aquila3 : Yes, I clearly remember the Saab 2000, great bird, , landing with it in MXP with a shaky wind. About the Dornier, I am not so sure . Did't they have a
89 Post contains links AF185 : According to Bloomberg, AF is planning to cut $645Million in spendings in order to reduce debts. Full story on this link: http://www.bloomberg.com/new
90 PHX787 : It mentions something like 750 jobs lost, are there any more that are going to be cut?
91 Post contains links and images Alsatian : AF announced today that they will drop the Strasbourg Airport - Paris CDG route on april 1st. From april 2nd the 4 daily roundtrip operated by E70 wil
92 JU068 : I really hope they do, taking the bus is beyond nasty- well I hate buses. I know Aegean has special flights from Athens to Strasbourg during the sess
93 Alsatian : The schedule is : FRA 1350 - 1440 SXB. LH 1072 departed at 1359 and arrived at 1438 today. As seen on the Flightradar 24 screenshot above, the A319 to
94 JU068 : Wonderful, thank you very much for that.
95 sxb : Have you considered by train? I have done it on several occasion to Offenburg, it takes about 1h30 compared to 2h45 to Strasbourg by bus. You can usu
96 JU068 : Well I usually come from Larnaca, hence why the complication. I usually have to go Larnaca-Athens-Frankfurt-Strasbourg, it is the cheapest and the mo
97 Alsatian : You are welcome I was wondering if the new SXB - FCO route could be an alternative. The schedules are good for connecting BUT the days of operation a
98 DeSCL : Does anyone know if Air France has plans to increase CDG-SCL? Or maybe start AMS-SCL by KLM? How profitable is the route? I know the load factors are
99 RAGAZZO777 : Air France has decided to deploy the 77W to SCL on a year-round basis (along with the 772). Previously, the 77W was only deployed to SCL during the s
100 DeSCL : Thats good to know, but Im surprised they are keeping the same capacity this summer (southern hemisphere), as compared to last year, while they have
101 JU068 : Thanks for that! Honestly, at times I feel as if we are the appendix of Europe, it is quite hard and expensive to reach any secondary city in Europe.
102 sxb : Forgot to specify that I was referring to Frankfurt and not CDG. It can be faster to take the train from Frankfurt airport to Strasbourg than taking
103 sxb : Looks like TUI is going to operate a direct LCA-BSL on Fridays starting May 17 (saw prices around 300€).
104 Alsatian : The Regional BritAir Airlinair operations pool (PRF / Pole Regional Francais) begins to take shape. I have checked some AF routes for the next summer
105 Alsatian : Alitalia will launch 2 weekly Rome FCO - Montpellier starting march 31st : AZ 398 FCO 0830 - 1005 MPL ---4--7 E75 AZ 399 MPL 1100 - 1230 FCO ---4--7 E
106 Post contains links Azure : Finally AF will continue to operate LAX - PPT, at least until Dec. 31, 2014. AF have signed an agreement with the two largest unions in Tahiti, which
107 LJ : KL wil increase AMS-LYS as of S13. The new flight will be KL1417/8 and will be operated by a F70 with the following daily schedule: AMS dep 1155 – L
108 goldorak : I have heard many times that CDG-SCL is a very good route for AF in terms of profitability. I doubt it will be the case. The COI configuration is tot
109 AF Cabin Crew : Ia Orana all ! No 77W COI to PPT, we'll keep the 35J 77E for now. When the Tahiti manager talked about increased capacity of 25% he was talking of wha
110 Post contains links Alsatian : Volotea has released its schedule for september and october 2013. In the domestic french market, NTE - SXB and BOD - SXB will see frequency increase f
111 Post contains links Azure : NCE has released its figures for 2012. The airport received over 11 M Passengers in 2012 (+7.4%). The new AF regional base is one of the reasons state
112 Alsatian : Will be interesting to see if Air France is still carrier # 1 @ NCE or if easyJet is now the leader of the first french airport outside Paris.
113 Post contains links Azure : The detailed statistics for 2012 have not been published yet but in 2011, U2 had 2,304,000 passengers to/from NCE vs AF 2,698,000... http://www.nice.
114 Post contains links Azure : After NCE, MRS has released its figures for 2012 : the trafic increased by +12.7%, the highest figure for french airports and the 4th one among the 80
115 Falcon Flyer : I just read an article in the Tribune de Geneve about the possibility of air service between Annecy and Paris being discontinued. I didn't even realiz
116 Post contains images goldorak : I didn't know either that Airlinair was not operating the flight anymore. Unfortunately, the reason is still the same : TGV !! Very sad indeed
117 Azure : The TGV is certainly one of the reasons but GVA is another one : it is a one hour drive away and it offers far more frequencies + U2...
118 goldorak : You are correct. TGV is killing the route to Paris but GVA is giving many travel opportunities to Annecy people.
119 Post contains links sxb : SunExpress to Start Strasbourg - Izmir Service from April 2013 http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/18/xq-sxb-apr13/
120 TS-IOR : The LYS-TUN route is to be operated by Transavia. Tunisair seems more efficient than AF on that route.
121 Post contains links Alsatian : German carrier BinAir will get subsidiaries (370 000 euros) to operate during 7 months a Dole - Paris Orly route with Swearingen Metroliner. Four roun
122 Post contains links breiz : AirFrance-KLM has chosen the name "Hop" to unite the regional services of Alinair, Brit Air and Régional. "Hop" will have a combined fleet of 86 to 9
123 breiz : Sorry, I did not see that there was a separate thread on this particular subject. No a French news then?
124 Post contains links Alsatian : HOP! by Air France will launch direct services from Montpellier to Lille and Strasbourg starting April 1st. A5 will face up to Volotea on the LIL rout
125 Alsatian : Rossiya will enter in the Moscow - Nice market. Starting 03MAR, the airline will offer 3 weekly direct service from Domodedovo to the french riviera.
126 Post contains links Alsatian : Vueling will resume Barcelona - Strasbourg route from june 2nd : VY 2300 BCN 1015 - 1210 SXB 1---5-7 319 VY 2301 SXB 1240 - 1420 BCN 1---5-7 319 http:
127 debonair : I heard rumors about a possible AirFrance A340 lease to ETIHAD... Is it true? And if, will the aircraft reconfigured to EY standards?
128 Post contains links Alsatian : Yes that is true. Article quoted here : Etihad - Jet Airways Deal Finalized? (by dtwlax Jan 25 2013 in Civil Aviation) (reply #10)
129 Post contains links Alsatian : According to ledauphine.com, Transavia could launch a 2 weekly Paris Orly - Chambery service for the next winter season. The last PAR - CMF route oper
130 Post contains images Alsatian : Hello, Here are the first pictures of HOP! for Airfrance : So a new hope for Airfrance ?
131 r2rho : I hope so, and I hope this boosts LYS again. It was one of my favorite airports to transfer for intra-EU flights, but has lost a lot of connectivity
132 Aesma : The tail scheme doesn't work on T-tail planes.
133 Post contains links sxb : Volotea could announce a new base in SXB today (in french below). http://www.strasbourg.eu/actualite/-..._p_col_id=column-1&p_p_col_count=1
134 Post contains links Alsatian : French airports february passengers statistics : CDG 4.076.931 -1,6 % ORY 1.829.583 -2,1 % NCE LYS 577.556 -3,4 % MRS 498.120 +4,8 % TLS 536.316 +6,1
135 debonair : AIGLE AZUR France is now also offering limited domestic flights ORY-NCE 2x weekly - will we see more domestic flights soon? Unfortunately, one way fli
136 Pihero : Thanks ! You're seeing the first impacts of the *Transform 2015* plan : the development of the bases of Marseilles, Toulouse and Bordeaux, and the re
137 mozart : Very interesting. Just a question for my understanding: when you say that this is the result of "Transform 2015", does that mean that this is another
138 Alsatian : Yes indeed. TLS and NCE bases have been launched on April 2012 so there is an impact on the January and February 2013 figures even if many routes hav
139 Alsatian : Twin Jet will launch Lille - Basle route starting may 13th : T7 071 LIL 0700 - 0820 BSL 1234 BEH T7 077 LIL 1745 - 1905 BSL 12345 BEH T7 072 BSL 0850
140 roberts87 : Hmm, those are exactly the timings for of the current BSL-MRS flights. I hope this doesn't mean that route is cancelled....
141 Alsatian : I do not think that it means another route will be dropped. Maybe they will get an additional Beech 1900.
142 roberts87 : I hope so! As the timings are exactly the same, including the not-flying of the morning rotation on day 5.
143 Alsatian : Don't worry. Most of the Twin Jet routes ( SXB - MPL , ETZ - MRS , ETZ - TLS , MRS - BSL , MRS - PUF , TLS - BSL ) are operated with these schedules
144 Post contains images roberts87 : Thanks! This will be the 3rd time I am trying to get on a Beech 1900, will be a shame if I fail again
145 Post contains links Alsatian : AirFrance plans to operate the Bordeaux - CDG link by high speed trains starting 2017. At this date the TGV journey time between the two cities will f
146 r2rho : If you can't beat 'em, join them. Multi-modal transportation is the way of the future, and the correct strategy in the long term. But still remarkabl
147 icna05e : I highly doubt it. Bordeaux-Paris might be then doable in 2h05 but not Bordeaux-CdG: it takes around an hour to circumnavigate around Paris on a good
148 AirGabon : How is doing UN on ORY-VKO and ORY-DME? How are the load factors?
149 r2rho : Good point. Bordeaux-CDG by TGV is really only a viable proposition if/once the "Interconnection Sud" around Paris ist built. And I highly doubt that
150 Post contains links Alsatian : French airports march passengers numbers : CDG 5 033 543 + 1,9 % ORY 2 258 575 + 2,7 % NCE 784 483 + 3 % LYS 697 034 + 3,9 % TLS 639 716 + 7,7 % MRS 5
151 Post contains links Alsatian : SkyTaxi will launch a Dole Jura - Nice route on behalf of IGavion starting 2JUN : TE 312 DLE 1430 - 1550 NCE -2-4--7 SF3 TE 314 NCE 1630 - 1750 DLE -2
152 Alsatian : Here were are, easyJet has overtaken AirFrance at Nice. For the first time, AF is not the #1 carrier in major french airport ( CDG - ORY - NCE - MRS -
153 Alsatian : Twin Jet will launch Toulouse - Milan Malpensa service starting 09SEP. EasyJet currently operates this route but will drop it from October : T7 081 TL
154 Post contains links Alsatian : Scheduled services are back at Epinal airport. SkyTaxi will launch a route to Nice on behalf of IGavion this summer : TE 354 NCE 1140 - 1315 EPL ---4-
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