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Man Accused Of Impersonating Airline Employee  
User currently offlineboeingkid From United States of America, joined May 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7502 times:

I have worked at many airports in my life (MDW,CVG,ORD,IND,ATL,PIT) and I really cant see this really happening.And letting him shadow her seriously?

Man accused of impersonating airline employee at Eppley

Read more: http://www.ketv.com/news/local-news/.../gq6v8k/-/index.html#ixzz1zrwfmMAR

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User currently offlinemmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 561 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

Alright guys... so which one of you Anetters was it. Fess up now, don't have to hide it.


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User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2824 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7242 times:

Quoting boeingkid (Thread starter):

I have worked at many airports in my life (MDW,CVG,ORD,IND,ATL,PIT) and I really cant see this really happening

   Working at an airline, especially at a relatively small station like OMA, is like high school. Breakroom talk -- everyone knows everything, and word gets around quick. Amazes me that the station manager or a supervisor didn't get wind of the "shadowing agent" they had in town.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7785 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7227 times:

Quoting mmedford (Reply 1):
Alright guys... so which one of you Anetters was it. Fess up now, don't have to hide it.

  

It depends if the person has contacts with another airline employee



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10533 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7136 times:

I particularly like this thought by his attorney........"Foster simply wanted to take advantage of the perks afforded to airline employees, such as better seats and free upgrades."



Yeah, it's all good if you don't mind the middle seat or waiting around the airport all day......



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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

Who'd really want to use SHARES if they weren't getting paid for it?


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9671 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6812 times:

I find this interesting. He had a fake airport badge and shadowed an agent. However one quick question about what his file number was should have turned them on. If he was trying to non-rev, I wonder how that would have worked.


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User currently offlinelasbagman From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

The gate agent allowed someone to piggy back in to secured areas ? He didn't have a local airport badge or visitors badge and the agent didn't check with her manager or supervisor ?

That whole staton needs to be re trained in SIDA.


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

What happens to him depends on if that Portland SIDA badge is real or not.

If it's a fake, then he broke Federal Laws and is in deep doo doo.

If it's real, then all he did was enter secured areas without permission. Not too awfully bad.

I wonder if UA will "no fly list" him because of this?


User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6622 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 4):
I particularly like this thought by his attorney........"Foster simply wanted to take advantage of the perks afforded to airline employees, such as better seats and free upgrades."



Yeah, it's all good if you don't mind the middle seat or waiting around the airport all day......

...and don't forget: The Glamour,



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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6583 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 6):
I find this interesting. He had a fake airport badge and shadowed an agent. However one quick question about what his file number was should have turned them on. If he was trying to non-rev, I wonder how that would have worked.

That is what I thought too. And all the internal acronyms that get thrown around....just having someone stare back at me when using one of the many division codes would have tipped me. I dunno...I think there is more to the story folks.....someone else is involved and 'covered'. Be interesting to see how this unfolds
  


User currently offlinerunner13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6160 times:

This guy was a former airline employee, he knew what he was doing was wrong. I was a ramp/customer service for a few years, and as a gate agent I would never let someone watch me on my computer other than co-workers. Also as a non rev getting stuck in major hubs like ORD, and LAX a lot, you get to know a lot of the gate agents, pilots, and flight attendants. On several occasions I would get stuck, see a agent or pilot I knew and was told to follow them to the crew room for the night, but declined since I didn't have a sida badge for that airport. After a couple of years, at my station I started doing a lot of TDY work at hubs and smaller outstations. I acquired quite the lanyard of airport sida badges. Then I would stay in the crew rooms when getting stuck non reving. This guy should face charges, along with the employees of the airline that allowed this to happen. They also knew this was a big no no.

User currently offlineajhYXE From Canada, joined May 2011, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5839 times:

I wonder if he was inspired by Frank Abagnale.....


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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5675 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5777 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 4):
"Foster simply wanted to take advantage of the perks afforded to airline employees, such as better seats and free upgrades."

Yeah, that made me chuckle.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 6):
He had a fake airport badge

Sounds like it was a real one, however no longer valid since he left SkyWest (which, contrary to the article, is not a subsidiary of United, but a regional partner).

Which is still a federal offense for him to use it, as it was no longer valid.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 6):
However one quick question about what his file number was should have turned them on

If he worked for SkyWest, he wouldn't have a United file number.



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User currently offlinenitefury From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5018 times:

"Foster simply wanted to take advantage of the perks afforded to airline employees, such as better seats and free upgrades."

Don't forget the other Airline perks like, Working on Christmas, 3 Paycuts, and getting stuck on midnights with Tues/Wed's for days off


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Quoting nitefury (Reply 15):
Don't forget the other Airline perks like, Working on Christmas, 3 Paycuts, and getting stuck on midnights with Tues/Wed's for days off

You get Tues AND Weds off??.......consecutively?? You must be senior  
Quoting type-rated (Reply 8):
I wonder if UA will "no fly list" him because of this?

I wonder if DHS/TSA will 'no fly list' him because of this.


User currently offlineAF351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

He just wanted to take advantage of airline perks.

Don't be too hard on however the person is.


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

If he did receive any perks from UA because of his impersonation then that would be considered "theft of services". UA could file charges against him and then ask for reimbursement for said services on top of that.

User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5675 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Quoting AF351 (Reply 17):
He just wanted to take advantage of airline perks.

I don't understand why people think that. There was literally nothing he could do to get any benefit an employee would get, as that would require an actual record in the system. And employees do not get any special treatment or perks when buying a full revenue ticket.... they are just another passenger.

He wanted to stay current in the business, and did it in the absolute worst way possible. Had he not flashed his badges, it's likely that even if the agent believed his story, that he would not be facing felony charges.



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

One thing I don't understand is why he still had his badge from working with Sky West at PDX. Wouldn't he have been required to relinquish it when he left his job?
Also, even though my job has no security-related aspects whatsoever, I'd find it odd if a stranger said that he or she wanted to "shadow" me on the job, I'd certainly let my supervisor know.



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User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Hi!

This guy must be an anetter!

But seriously I would have cut the guy some slack. I mean what harm has he actually done? He told them he was an employee and hung out for a few weeks, maybe walked into a few secure areas. They should offer this guy a job seeing he's so desperate to work for them! Then he could hang around and walk around wherever he wants without getting in trouble!

Just my opinion based on what limited stuff I read.

Many thanks,

Pierre


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10533 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
But seriously I would have cut the guy some slack.

That's probably a sure way to lose your own job.

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
I mean what harm has he actually done? He told them he was an employee and hung out for a few weeks, maybe walked into a few secure areas. They should offer this guy a job seeing he's so desperate to work for them! Then he could hang around and walk around wherever he wants without getting in trouble!

If he's attended ANY SIDA training, and it appears he has, he should know that everything he was doing was not only against regulations, but against the law. I feel NO sympathy for him.



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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 4):

I particularly like this thought by his attorney........"Foster simply wanted to take advantage of the perks afforded to airline employees, such as better seats and free upgrades."

Funniest thing I've heard all year!!!!               



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3402 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 19):
One thing I don't understand is why he still had his badge from working with Sky West at PDX. Wouldn't he have been required to relinquish it when he left his job?

Yes, but sometimes an employee just stops showing up and never turns in their credentials. A fine is usually assessed and the badge itself is deactivated, but it's possible that an employee could hold on to it and it would continue to appear perfectly valid until swiped. Of course, anyone who holds on to an ID badge isn't going to be getting a new one (say, if he or she returns to the airport to work for a different employer) anytime soon.

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
But seriously I would have cut the guy some slack. I mean what harm has he actually done? He told them he was an employee and hung out for a few weeks, maybe walked into a few secure areas. They should offer this guy a job seeing he's so desperate to work for them! Then he could hang around and walk around wherever he wants without getting in trouble!

No. If he can't be bothered to go through the traditional and legal means of gaining employment with an airline, who knows what other laws and regulations he'll ignore/disregard just because it would make his life more difficult otherwise? Especially if he already held an airport ID badge, which, as mayor mentioned, would mean that he knew exactly what he was doing.


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10533 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Makes me wonder why he was no longer working for Skywest. Very suspicious to me.


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6085 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 24):
Makes me wonder why he was no longer working for Skywest. Very suspicious to me.

It seems that he didn't last long at the hotel, either. Very suspicious. Or he's just very lazy.



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