irishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 62 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3139 times:
With EK upgrading its DUB - DXB route from and A330 to 777W within just a few months could EK upgrade to an A380 in the near future with more A380 deliveries coming to EK and freeing them up a bit could DUB get an A380 with in a few years if they upgrade the airport for the A380?
kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11950 posts, RR: 37 Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3076 times:
I agree with David_itl; it will want to move to a second daily service and I could see that happening within the next 1-2 years; the overnight departure from DUB would connect more efficiently with the morning departures from DXB to Australia, so that service would do well.
I really can't see an A380 happening for some time to come; filling two 777s a day would be much better than one A380; great if it happens, but I don't see it for some time yet.
aznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3541 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3032 times:
Out of curiosity, does EK have a limit on flights into and out of DUB? Might it consider continuing on to the US and would they be able to use US pre-clearance?
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Cabincrewifly From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2986 times:
Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 4): Out of curiosity, does EK have a limit on flights into and out of DUB? Might it consider continuing on to the US and would they be able to use US pre-clearance?
Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 4): Out of curiosity, does EK have a limit on flights into and out of DUB? Might it consider continuing on to the US and would they be able to use US pre-clearance?
That would be very interesting......
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5): Quoting Cabincrewifly (Reply 3):
Could a packed A380 even lift off the runway at DUB?
Yes it shouldn't be a problem on a mid-haul flight to DXB.
shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4039 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2975 times:
Quoting Cabincrewifly (Reply 3): Could a packed A380 even lift off the runway at DUB?
Even in a scenario where it may be packed with pax, it would not need anywhere near a full load of fuel - remember, EK have sent the A380 to BHX before, which has an even shorter runway. I think this runway issue is way over played - it is absolutely not a problem for flights of this duration. Any runway that a 747 can get off, an A380 can too.
Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 4): Out of curiosity, does EK have a limit on flights into and out of DUB? Might it consider continuing on to the US and would they be able to use US pre-clearance?
No, no limits, there is open skies between Ireland and the UAE, and yes, Emirates could use US pre-clearance, but given they have aircraft with the ability to do USA-UAE non stop, i'm not really sure they would want to.
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clydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 995 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
Quoting Cabincrewifly (Reply 3): Could a packed A380 even lift off the runway at DUB?
The runway length is no problem, the 380 needs less runway than the 747. But you might need to make some changes to the taxiways where there are turns involved, these areas would probably need widening. But you wouldn't have to do all taxiways, just a few designated A380 routes.
Another thing you would need is a gate large enough. You don't want to remote park it on a scheduled basis.
shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4039 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2824 times:
Quoting clydenairways (Reply 10): Another thing you would need is a gate large enough. You don't want to remote park it on a scheduled basis.
Pier B would be very adaptable for this. It already has an upper level (that is not even being used anymore) that could be adapted to provide upper level boarding.
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shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4039 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2754 times:
Quoting irishair98 (Reply 14): would Pier B not be to close to the other piers and terminal 2 ?
No. The outer 4 gates at Pier B have no space constraints of any sort with regards to other piers. The A380 is also not a very long aircraft compared with the 77W which uses Pier B often on Air France rugby charters.
There are no infrastructure constraints that cannot be sorted out quite easily.
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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2384 times:
Quoting david_itl (Reply 1): Long term perhaps. What they'll do first is increase frequency.
Quoting kaitak (Reply 2): I agree with David_itl; it will want to move to a second daily service and I could see that happening within the next 1-2 years
While I also believe that a second daily frequency is in the cards, as soon as next year, an upgauge of the sole morning flight is not without precedent. EK is about to start sending the A388 to AMS, although it had initially filed for a second daily frequency.
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 20, posted (10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
Quoting david_itl (Reply 1): Long term perhaps. What they'll do first is increase frequency.
I'm going to agree with this. DUB is for expatriate traffic and being connected to a second wave would improve demand more than the bar on the A380.
But let us face it. The bar on the A380 should be very popular from DUB.
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 17): While I also believe that a second daily frequency is in the cards, as soon as next year, an upgauge of the sole morning flight is not without precedent. EK is about to start sending the A388 to AMS, although it had initially filed for a second daily frequency.
From what I've heard on DUB demand, I could see both within the next 12 months.
irishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2195 times:
The demand is very high, within a few weeks of there inagural flight EK announced that they would upgrade to a 777W starting from july first but the aircraft upgrade was needed so bad they deceided to start using the 777W from may 1st
but thats when EK thought DUB wouldn't be a success. EK are doing absolutly great in dublin within a few years they could have an A380 if dublin upgrades
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