AeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2 Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2211 times:
Hi everybody! I have been really interested to see how many of you will reply to the "build your own airline" subjects, and I enjoy reading about your fantasy airlines. I thought I'd start it up AGAIN to see some more ideas.......This time I'll let you have a little more fun, and make a slightly larger airline, maybe give us a little history for it. Here's my fantasy airline, my friend Ben (LY772) and his cousin started it, and brought me in, now Ben and his cousin have moved onto their own airlines, and I am it's CEO and chief pilot. Here it is!
--Aero Globe Airlines
--Headquarters: Kansas City, Kansas
--Major Hubs (US hubs, in order from largest to smallest):
Kansas City (732 daily flights, from 106 gates)
Los Angeles (345 daily departures from 35 gates)
Orlando (330 daily departures from 31 gates)
Washington DC-Dulles (289 daily departures from 23 gates)
Vancouver (125 daily departures from 13 gates)
San Juan (97 daily departures from 11 gates)
Paris-Charles DeGaulle (39 daily departures from 6 gates)
Rio De Janeiro Galeo (35 daily departures from 6 gates)
Boeing 717-200: 36 in service
Boeing 737-200: 49 in service (43 with AG Express)
Boeing 737-300: 143 in service
Boeing 737-600: 20
Boeing 737-700: 100 (some with AG Pacifica, not listed)
Boeing 737-800: 60 (" ")
Boeing 737-900: 1
Boeing 747-400: 81 (some with AG PACIFICA)
Boeing 757-200: 55
Boeing 767-200: 10
Boeing 767-300: 30
Boeing 777-200: 65
McDonnell Douglas MD-80: 35
McDonnell Douglas MD-90: 55
McDonnell Douglas MD-11: 40 (some with AG PACIFICA)
--Aero Globe Cityjet Feeder Airlines:
Rocky Mountain Air-feeds hubs at COS and DEN
Trans Florida Airlines-hubs at MCO, TPA, and SRQ
Western Coastal-hubat LAX, SAN coming soon
Capital Airways-hub at IAD
Caribbeana Airlines-hub at SJU (San Juan), Kingston coming soon
Aero Globe Express (Western US low fare division)
Aero Globe PACIFICA (Pacific rim division, like CO MIKE)
Aero Globe World Cargo
AERO GLOBE EXPRESS-San Diego, Colorado Springs, Seattle/Tacoma
AERO GLOBE PACIFICA-Honolulu, Tokyo Narita, Sydney, Singapore
AERO GLOBE WORLDCARGO-Kansas City, Los Angeles, New York (JFK), Anchorage
--Alliance: Freedom Alliance
--Partners (outside of alliance):
Delta Airlines (major codeshare with Delta at ATL, CVG, JFK, SLC, and Delta codeshare with AGA at MCI, MCO, IAD, and LAX)
Air Tahiti Nui
Japan Air System
South African Airways
--Worldwide destinations: 397
--Daily worldwide flights: 3,963
--Passengers carried in 2000: 101,000,000
BABY BOEINGS ALL THE WAY!!!
FLY DELTA JETS!
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 37 Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2049 times:
Headquarters: Bristol, UK
Longhaul Hub: LGW
Secondary Hub: MAN Fleet
Dash 8-300 (16) - at BRS
Fokker 70 (35) - at BRS
Fokker 50 (22) - at BRS
Airbus A319-100 (42) - at BRS
Airbus A320-200 (29) - at BRS (12), at LGW (6), at MAN (11)
Boeing 757-200 (35) - at BRS (22), at MAN (13)
Airbus A330-300 (10) - at LGW
Boeing B747-400 (113) - at LGW (87), at MAN (26)
Part of Star Alliance:-
Singapore, United, SAS, Varig, Tyrolean, British Midland, Ansett Australia, Air New Zealand, Thai International, ANA, Air Canada, Austrian, Lufthansa, Mexicana, Lauda
AND............ World International
42,000,000 Passengers for Last Year
Part of Sky Team alliance. So Africa is covered by Air France and Alitalia pretty good coverege of the area. Eastern Europe is set by connections in Prague. Good connections to the Carribean and regional destinations in the US by Delta. Good connections to Korea and Asia (mainly China) that we don't offer. Aeromexico is good being one of the only other international carriers at MSY, and with lots of flights from MEX, GDL and CUN.
Also: Air New Zealand. They fly to NGO and give us great connections to the South Pacific. Plus, if Qantas doesn't mess with them, Ansett for our Australian segments. Emirates for connections to other places in the Middle East from Cairo and Dubai. Lapa for connections in Argentina. Lan Chile for flights within South America. Tunis Air for flights to Northern Africa.
No pax or revenue #s, this is just a dream, not a reality, I know most of it couldn't/wouldn't happen but oh well.
Hope you've enjoyed. BTW the Embrear ERJ 170 and 190 are supposed to come out in 2002 so this airline is a couple years in the future.
AeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
How's that? If United were headquartered here no-one would question what I have written. It's simply that you east and west coast "folks" think that Chicago is the only large city in the midwest, and everyone else lives on farms. St. Louis, Kansas City, and Cleveland are all located in the midwest, and none of which are small. With the proper feed, a Kansas City hub would be feasible (however that's spelled :-P), the other airlines that have tried just haven't done it right. And what makes an airline such as Aero Globe against all odds? No different than many of the other large airlines today, stablemate narrowbody (737) with a few other types to help out (MD-80, MD-90, 717, 757), and a staple widebody for international flights (777, 747, 767, and MD-11). We have an alliance, a feeder network, and a cargo network. Which is not at all unusual. We have hubs at important destinations in all corners of the US, as well as a few other "hubs" in other countries. Not unusual at all. (Hence United, and Northwest's "hub" at Tokyo Narita, and Northwests "hub" at Amsterdam). How that can be "against all odds" is past me. We also have a history, going 53 years back. So it's not like some people do, where they make a fantasy airline that suddenly pops up with a huge fleet of 777-300s serving the PHL market on domestic and international flights. I'm sorry to sound rude, or disrespectful, but it's not that far fetched. It just isn't real, and that is not something that some of you on here can deal with. I structure Aero Globe as close to other Major airlines as I can, and I have made it more and more realistic as I've learned more about airline operations (we used to have like 23 hubs, and operate an ungodly fleet of ancient 707s, 727s, DC-9s, 747 classics, as well as more modern aircraft). It's actually very well structured, if you look at things from a certain perspective. Compare AGA to AA. You'll discover, that we're not much different from AA, despite the larger fleet, more flights, and a few more hubs.
BABY BOEINGS ALL THE WAY!!!
FLY DELTA JETS!
Classic707 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 548 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
TransNational airlines was started as a premium service airline in 1961 based out of San Antonio, Texas with a fleet of 10 Boeing 707-126s (I use 026 since no one seems to know who it belongs to) by 1970, TransNational had grown to a fleet of 150 aircraft incuding 10 707-126, 30 707-326s 20 707-426s and 90 727-226s. TransNational also had a new hub in Miniappolis. In 1980 Trans National was one of the top five airlines in the United States. By now the 707s we almost gone, a fleet of 200 727-226s took their place and the Airbus A300 (40) and Lockheed L-1011 (25) TriStar was being used for most long haul flights. By 1990, the L-1011s were gone, and the A300s were on their way out and the 767 was on its way in, as well as 757 on longer domestic routes. In 2000, most of the A300s and 727s were gone, replaced by the 777/767 and the 737-700/-800. TransNational now has hubs in Boston and San Fransisco. TransNational Now has one of the most extensive domestic and international networks in the world and has the best service record in the US. 98% of TransNational's flights are on time, and it has been 21 months since anyone luggage was lost. All flights still get hot meals even in coach, and it is still served in china, with linnen and silver.
727-226 63 To be retired by 2003
737-726 80 +250
737-826 110 +120
757-226 130 +40
767-326 40 +30
777-226 60 +60
A300 18 To be retired by 2002
Us330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3810 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1917 times:
I am not from the east nor west coast. I am from Dallas. I think I know a little about the midwest. Kansas City couldn't serve as a large scale hub operation like yours (700+daily flights) because of its relatively small base population. Look at all the other hubs in the midwest and their catchment area.
Maybe 250 daily flights, but that is pushing it. That is the one problem with kids like you on these forums. They are so self absorbed with their hometown that they can't see the facts for what they are.
America West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
That is the one problem with kids like you on these forums. They are so self absorbed with their hometown...
What's wrong with with wanting a little more for your airport? I like where I live. It might be a place that you haven't ever heard of before, but it is in the Midwest and it is an America West Airlines hub, and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing it become a little more than that one day.
From SEA to:
Juneau, Anchorage, Los Angeles, Memphis, New York, Wichita, Honolulu, Vancouver, Tokyo, Osaka, Okinawa(Via Los Angeles), Las Vegas, San Francisco, Denver, San Diego, Washington DC, Kansas City, Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa, Orlando, Miami.
From MEM to:
Seattle, Wichita, St. Louis, Nashville, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Fort Myers, Sarasota, Pensacola, Albequerqe, Seattle, Boston, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Little Rock, Springfield(Missouri), Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Detroit, Cleveland, Columbus
From Tampa to:
Cancun, Cozumel, Memphis, Boston, Seattle, San Juan, St. Maarten, Bonaire, Caracas, Nassau
From Boston to:
Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinatti, Detroit, New York, Washington, Raleigh, Baltimore, Tampa, Seattle, Memphis, Los Angeles, San Fransisco, Pitsburg, Philadelphia, London, Paris, Madrid, Zurich, Copenhagen, Moscow, Tokyo, Bermuda, Milan, Rome, Vienna
Kansas National Airlines(KNA)
From Wichita to:
Kansas City(Prarie Shuttle)
Hubs:Orlando, Tampa, Las Vegas
From Orlando to:
Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, Kansas City, Cleveland, Chicago Midway
From Las Vegas to:
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Kansas City, Seattle, San Diego, Chicago Midway
From Tampa to:
Atlanta, Kansas City, Chicago Midway, Newark
Northwest Airlines - Some People Just Know How to Fly
IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2625 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
Airline name: Jet Pacifica International
Airline base: MEL, Aust ( abit of healthy competition for World International )
Airline status: Charter & scheduled
S- Santiago 5 X W
S- Auckland 3 X daily 21 X W
C- Hamilton, NZ
C- Cape Town ( trans Antarctic flight )
S- Kuala Lumpur 5 x W
S- Tokyo 7 X W
S- Seattle / PDX 5 X W
S- Port Moresby 5 X W
S- Singapore 6 X W
S- Munich 4 X W
S- Luxemberg 2 X W
S- Stockholm 4 X W
Regular other charters to other desinations will occur as the airline grows, but unlike World International, it will start small and build up numbers.
A340-600 X 3
-500 X 3
A330-300 X 2
-200 X 3
A320-200 X 4
If An airline like this did occur, it would certainly work here in MEL, as we are lacking charter or even some scheduled destination choices that should be available.
AeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
Yes, Kansas City, Missouri is in Missouri. But there's also Kansas City, Kansas. As well as many suburbs on the MO and KS side. I live in one of the KS side suburbs, but I do not care to mention it's name, so I didn't want to mention it as the actual headquarters city.
Numero uno, I may be young, but I refuse to be called a kid. I am more mature than 95% of 14-15 year old males, and I'd bet money on it. I am very polite, respect my elders, respect girls (waiting 'till marriage until I have sex for one example), and I try not to ever use horrid language. I'll admit it, I do sometimes, but generally I do not. I've got goals in my life, I'm not going to do drugs ever, drink alcohol, or have sex underage. Unfortunately so, I know some real kids my age who don't know how to do any of the above.
Secondly, I am very realistic, I try very hard to be. First of all, this is a theoretical question that I asked. I know that Kansas City wouldn't be able to support 700+ daily flights by a single airline, at least not at the moment. Sometime in the future it may. I'm also very proud to be a Kansas Citian. The saying "Don't mess with Texas" has no meaning to me. Kansas City is certainly one of, if not the most beautiful city in the country. We're very clean, (even our "ghetto" is cleaner than most other large city's "ghetto"). Besides that, we also know a thing or two about hospitality. The food here is unbeatable, no steakhouse in the country could out do the Hereford House, or Plaza III. Both of which are found ONLY in Kansas City and it's suburbs. Our BBQ is unbeatable as well. I laugh at the thought of a New York BBQ cookoff, and despite some of the rumors that have managed to get around a bit, Texas does not "really know how to barbeque", well, maybe they do, and it may be good, but not as good as KC BBQ!!!! That's all I've got to say. I'm sorry if I sound rude, or disrespectful, but I felt challenged, and ended up on the defensive. I don't like feeling like I'm being backed into a corner, and as stupid as it may sound, if I feel as though I have, I'll come out fighting. The bottom line is, respect me and my dreams, and I'll respect you and yours. Once again, I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful, or rude, but I felt challenged by you. Thanks for your time. Happy flying!
BABY BOEINGS ALL THE WAY!!!
FLY DELTA JETS!
NOTHING GREATER THAN RAIDER FOOTBALL! (SMSouth Highschool Raider football that is, not Oakland)
LY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1827 times:
I've known AeroGlobeAir7 all my life and he's my best friend. And he really does respect girls, and he knows what's good and bad for him. He also knows what he wants to do in life, and how to get there. Andy is a freak...a freak about airplanes and that's all right. Now, if you don't mind, I have to juggle keeping friends, staying in touch with family, school and also be prepared to fight off Palestinians. (No offense, you want your land, take it, just don't expect me to get off of my land for you)
Us330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3810 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
Did you ever hear me say something about don't mess with Texas? I will be the first to admit how I hate the city and the state.
Look, I could get into an argument with you about Kansas City, but it really doesn't belong here, nor does this topic which I still firmly believe belongs in the Aviation Hobby section. Virtual Airlines don't belong in the Civil Av forum. Just read the descriptions.
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24748 posts, RR: 57 Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1799 times:
Main Base: Newcastle
2nd base: Manchester
5 A319-100 all 126cy
4 A320-200 all 147cy
3 A330-200 2 in 265cy, 1 in 350Y
6 DH8-300 all 50y
2 DH8-400 all 70y
3 CRJ-200LR all 49y
NCL-CDG 319 Daily x 3
NCL-BCN 319 Daily x 2
NCL-AMS 319 Daily x 3
NCL-SVG 319 Daily x 3
MAN-CDG 319 Daily x 3
MAN-AMS 319 Daily x 3
NCL-MAD 320 Daily x 2
NCL-ATH 320 Daily x 1
NCL-IST 320 Daily x 1
NCL-ZRH 320 Daily x 2
MAN-ZRH 320 Daily x 2
NCL-JFK 332 Daily x 1 (2class)
NCL-MCO 332 weekly x 3 (1 class)
NCL-PMI 332 Weekly x 1 (1 class)
MAN-JFK 332 Daily x 1 (2 class)
MAN-MCO 332 weekly x 3 (1 class)
NCL-MAN DH3 Daily x 5
NCL-BHX DH3 Daily x 4
NCL-BRS DH3 Daily x 4
NCL-SOU DH3 Daily x 4
NCL-LCY DH3 Daily x 4
MAN-LCY DH3 Daily x 4
NCL-STN DH4 Daily x 4
NCL-ABZ DH4 Daily x 4
NCL-DUB CRJ Daily x 4
NCL-FRA CRJ Daily x 3
NCL-CPH CRJ Daily x 3
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
I'm a 40-something, but as a kid at heart (six on a good day...) I always enjoy imagining, and one of my favorite lands of make-believe is airliners. Fantasy is just that - it does not have to reflect the realities of the "real world." I loved seeing those Airbus A380s in Southwest colors earlier this year. Play is healthy. Imagination (as long as it is nonviolent) is healthy. Which is why I spend so much time at Airliners.net.
The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 37 Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
I am more mature than 95% of 14-15 year old males, and I'd bet money on it
Guess i am in the top 5%
Graham why the hell have you got a DHC8-300 flying to BRS? Load factors dude!!! Its gotta be a 737 at least, i'll tell you what, we'll do frequency. I got 2 757's hanging around at BRS, i can do 2x flights daily, you get ure ass going for 2 flights daily, with the A320.
Iainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1786 times:
I would go for complete market domination, and by all the aircrafts from hang-gliders to 747 concordes, 380 orders, large russian cargo planes, and space ships. I would fly them everywhere people wanted to go with the hub being on the white house lawn. I will call my airline Were up in air!
This is a silly game!
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24748 posts, RR: 57 Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1767 times:
Nope, not enough space at BRS for a/c larger than a DH8!
Seriously, you can operate the 757 into NCL if you want but I will keep the DH8 to BRS for just now. Maybe increase freq to 6 daily with mix of DH3 and CRJ.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!