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CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4385 posts, RR: 5
Posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11896 times:

United Airlines has ordered 100 737NG & 737 MAX aircraft with options for an additional 100. That will be one massive fleet of 737NG and 737 MAX aircraft when all is said and done.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/3610...s-737-max-a320-neo-farnborough.htm

[Edited 2012-07-09 14:13:30]

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anfromme From Ireland, joined Feb 2012, 285 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11850 times:

That article just sounds like a re-hash of what we've already heard before, except the headline makes it sound like it's already an announced deal. Which it isn't, according to the actual text of the article:

Quote:
According to Bloomberg News, which quoted people familiar with the matter, the airline is buying 100 Boeing 737s with an option for 100 more,

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CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4385 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11706 times:

Order to be "officially" announced this Thursday.

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CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2080 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10980 times:

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Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

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PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4985 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10850 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 2):
Order to be "officially" announced this Thursday.

Ok first I saw 75 orders and now it's up to 100.

I think what it is, it's 75 orders and 25 commitments or 75MAX and 25NG....

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

I'd assume, or some of the older 737s will be phased out with this order

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burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10732 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
I think what it is, it's 75 orders and 25 commitments or 75MAX and 25NG....

The other 75 aircraft it mentioned were from a aircraft leasing company, not UA.

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817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10706 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
Ok first I saw 75 orders and now it's up to 100.

I think the 75 orders you saw was from Air lease:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...75-boeing-737-max-aircraft-374035/

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boeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10706 times:

Wow, this is gonna be a huge amount of planes on order. According to wiki UA will have 240 new planes on order with this order. Wow, just wow.

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PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4985 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10637 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 5):
The other 75 aircraft it mentioned were from a aircraft leasing company, not UA.

Ah my mistake

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poLOT From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10439 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

No. They will be replacing most of the PMUA 757 fleet and some of the oldest A320s.

Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10099 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

I doubt they would be tied to any specific airplane. UA has been replacing both 767-200s and 737-500s with 737-900ERs. The 900ER is not a direct replacement, but 900ERs free up 757-200s which free up 757-300s which free up 2-class 767-300s to replace the 767-200s. UA has a lot of fleet flexibility.

The current 900ER order will see the end of the 767-200, 737-500 and a lease return 757-200s. A new order will likely start to replace more 757-200s. The next oldest fleet is the A320 fleet.

UA has also commented that they are short on narrowbodies since PMUA retired all their 737s with United Express CRJs and E170s.

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gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 11, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9431 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
I'd assume, or some of the older 737s will be phased out with this order

Not a single one. Every A320 is having its bins refit and Wifi installed.

This will be for growth and for 75 retirements.

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windy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2558 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4441 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

No...The 900ER's are replacing 90+ 757's.

Quoting gigneil (Reply 11):
Not a single one. Every A320 is having its bins refit and Wifi installed.

Correct.

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AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
Are they replacing the entire Airbus A319/A320 fleet with these?

Certainly not. I would think that the 735s would be the first to be replaced. They are newer than some of the oldest A320s but they will be two generations old when the 737MAX flies and they are the least efficient narrowbodies in the fleet.

Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 7):
Wow, this is gonna be a huge amount of planes on order. According to wiki UA will have 240 new planes on order with this order. Wow, just wow.

I think AA has more aircraft on order than UA. UA does not have any albatrosses like the MD-80 hanging around their neck and is phasing in new aircraft more slowly than AA needs to.

tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6178 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 12):
No...The 900ER's are replacing 90+ 757's.

Not at the moment. Leases on the 75's have been extended this year.

Also have to figure that at some point in the near future UA is going to have to address the ongoing 50 seater RJ crisis. Some of the 739s are likely for that too.

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windy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2558 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 14):
Quoting windy95 (Reply 12):No...The 900ER's are replacing 90+ 757's.
Not at the moment. Leases on the 75's have been extended this year.

Yes the moment they start delivering them. A handful of leases are being extended as has been talked about in the other thread.

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tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6178 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 15):

how can they be replacing them when the 75 leases are being extended? What about growth?

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gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2616 times:

They won't be delivered anytime soon anyway.

And some have been extended, not all 96.

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WestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

As far as I can tell, only one source (Bloomberg) has reported on this story. They say there will be a announcement by Boeing/United on Thursday. If it turns out to be accurate - those reporters have pretty darn good sources. The original byline on the Bloomberg story was Susanna Ray, but it later changed to insert Thomas Black and Mary Schlangenstein.

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Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26726 posts, RR: 83
Reply 19, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

And now official - http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2342.

The final deal was for 150 aircraft - 100 737-9 and 50 737-900ER.

[Edited 2012-07-12 07:28:06]

EPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 3594 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 19):
The final deal was for 150 aircraft - 100 737-9 and 50 737-900ER

No surprise here. But still congratulations to UA, Boeing and CFM are in place for this order.

Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26726 posts, RR: 83
Reply 21, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 20):
No surprise here.

In terms of UA going Boeing, no.

But I do find it...if not exactly surprising...heartening to see the 737-9 and 737-900ER starting to really build momentum.

LionAir were the primary customer of the 737-900ER and some wondered whether the airline would survive long enough to take delivery of all the frames they had ordered. But now with DL ordering 100 737-900ERs and UA adding another 50 to the 52 they already have, that shores up the line a fair bit.

And UA's order for 150 737-9, along with ALC's 15, should hopefully shake more orders for that model out of the tree.

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22070 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Per UA company release:

The 50 added 737-900ER will begin delivery in 2013, with first 737-9 MAX in 2018.

The aircraft will allow UA to replace older less efficient aircraft - beginning with subsidiary United 757 fleet being flown domestically.

The new MAX aircraft will provide a 20% per seat cost advantage over the aircraft they are replacing.

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STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Some renderings from UA, love the new winglet;

https://hub.united.com/en-us/News/Co...nited-orders-boeing-737-max-9.aspx

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acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

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And it looks like UA has made its announcement for 100 new frames! For the sake of organization I am going to close this thread and ask that everyone continue in this thread: Boeing & UA Making MAX Announcement Today (by LuisKMIA Jul 12 2012 in Civil Aviation). Thanks!

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