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What Cities Will Westjet Regional Serve?  
User currently offlineYYCspotter From Canada, joined Jul 2012, 176 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

With westjet regional launching in 2013 with Q400NextGen aircraft, what cities do you think they will serve from their main hubs in Calgary (YYC) and Toronto (YYZ)?


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24109 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Quoting YYCspotter (Thread starter):
With westjet regional launching in 2013 with Q400NextGen aircraft, what cities do you think they will serve from their main hubs in Calgary (YYC) and Toronto (YYZ)?

Look at routes AC is currently operating with Jazz Dash 8s and CRJs that WS doesn't currently serve. That should give you a pretty good idea of potential WS Q400 markets.

I expect they will also be used quite extensively on current WS routes where demand doesn't warrant a 737 except at very low frequency which isn't attractive to business travellers.


User currently onlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Obviously this is speculation only, but I can say:

From YVR:
- Kelowna
- Kamloops
- Comox
- Victoria (?)
- Castlegar

From YYC:
- Edmonton
- Grand Prairie
- Saskatoon
- Regina
- Fort Mac


From YYZ:
- Thunder Bay
- Windsor
- London
- North Bay
- Sudbury


.... I'll let the rest fill in what they think...



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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4734 times:
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Logically, I can see YYJ-YYC -- with greater frequency. And a Q400 is way more comfortable than QK 's CR200s on the same route. I can also see a few on YXX-YYC and perhaps a return of YQQ-YYC service.

User currently offlineajhYXE From Canada, joined May 2011, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

I heard on local news that YPA (Prince Albert, SK) is looking to attract WS service. I seriously question the demand for it though.


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User currently offlineInfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

LGA will be served during certain off-peak periods when a 737 is too much aircraft.. is what i understand

User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2953 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
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From YYZ most likely would be
London
Windsor
Sudbury
Timmins
Sault Ste Marie
and possibly replacing/supplementing 737s to Thunder Bay

North Bay won't be on the early list, but may come eventually... maybe...



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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4647 times:
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I hope WS Express will fly YYC - SEA/PDX and maybe (but just maybe) YVR-SEA/PDX.

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4509 times:
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Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
I hope WS Express will fly YYC - SEA/PDX and maybe (but just maybe) YVR-SEA/PDX.


Already covered by QX and QK . I don't know if there's enough market for a third entrant.


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4438 times:
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Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 8):
Already covered by QX and QK . I don't know if there's enough market for a third entrant.

True...But there will also be three airlines on the SEA-NRT route.

I really doubt the YVR connection, but I think WS Regional is possible out of YYC.


User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 829 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

I think you'll definitely see YYC-SEA

User currently offlinecanadianpylon From Canada, joined May 2003, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

I know in some early articles about the WestJet Regional cited the fact that 'prairie capitals' weren't connected in the WestJet universe. IE. YWG-YQR was specifically cited. I could see YWG-YXE, YWG-YQR, an expansion of YWG-YQT, and the possible reintroduction of YWG-YTH (Thompson).

When they used to fly YWG-Thompson, and subsequently withdrew, the said the market was better served by smaller aircraft with more frequency than the WestJet 1X Daily flight.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5323 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 10):

I think so too. More flights to Seattle to access the cheaper transpac/US flights available in the states. I also see Winnipeg as a mini hub and a southern daily milk run, (both ways), from Victoria to Thunder Bay...and many, many points between.



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User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

I could see YYC-PDX/SEA

User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

I'm going to throw YQL in... but not necessarily to YYC, more like the old Time Air/ Canadi>n Regional route: YQL, YLW, YVR.


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User currently onlinevio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Here's a dumb question...

What are Westjet's bases? Obviously YYC and YYZ, but is YVR a Westjet base? What about on the East coast?



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User currently offlineHawaiian763 From Canada, joined May 2009, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3956 times:

Quoting vio (Reply 2):
From YVR:
- Kelowna
- Kamloops
- Comox
- Victoria (?)
- Castlegar

I'm not so sure about YCG, especially with it's tricky approaches and short runway, I don't think the Q400 would be able to fly into there.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 13):
I could see YYC-PDX/SEA

SEA is pretty much covered by AS and AC in the summer, but maybe having WS on that route might make those flights more competitive considering AS can get quite pricey sometimes.

I'm surprised one city that hasn't been mentioned is Cranbrook (YXC). Cranbrook has been pushing to bring WS to the area for quite a few years and now that the Q400 is coming, now's the chance for that to finally happen. If WS could fly YYC-YXC or YVR-YXC, than they could give AC a run for their money on a route that they pretty much own (over $500 to fly YYC-YXC round trip right now is an absolute rip off).


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4062 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3942 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 7):

I hope WS Express will fly YYC - SEA/PDX and maybe (but just maybe) YVR-SEA/PDX.

Not liking the current Horizon service?



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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3910 times:

Some stateside thoughts.

I'd think perhaps YYZ-ORD since WS operates ORD from YVR and YYC, and also YYZ-EWR since WS serves
EWR from YYC.



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User currently offlineHawaiian763 From Canada, joined May 2009, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 18):
YYZ-EWR since WS serves
EWR from YYC.

WS already flies YYZ-LGA numerous times a day, it doesn't make sense to also start service in EWR. Isn't EWR farther away from downtown New York than LGA is?


User currently offlineykaops From Canada, joined Nov 2010, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

I am going to throw this out there and say YYC-DEN it's a fair distance but the Q400 is capable.

YVR-YCG ( a big NEGATIVE)
YVR-YYJ ( doubtful)
YVR-YLW-YQL (doubtful)
YVR- YXC, YKA, YLW, YXS (likely as point to point or through flights)
YVR-YPR, YXT, YXJ, YQQ, YBL , YYE, SEA, PDX, GEG, SMF ( new city candidates)

Thinking YKA-YEG may be reintroduced with flight carrying onto YMM

YYC-YEG, YQU, YQR, YXE (likely)
YYC-YMM, YLW, YKA ( additional added frequencies to current offerings with multiple segments vs single B737 aircraft)
YYC-DEN, SEA, PDX, SLC, GEG , BOI , YXJ, YXS, (new routes)

YWG-YXE, YQR, MSP, YTH, YQT

YYZ- MSP, DET, DCA, BOS, CVG, MDW, ACY, NYC, RDU, HPN limitless possibilities...


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3823 times:
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Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 19):
Isn't EWR farther away from downtown New York than LGA is?

If measured by the amount on the taxi meter, then it really doesn't make much difference.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4144 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
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Quoting vio (Reply 15):
but is YVR a Westjet base?

They have a whole wing of the airport. It certainly qualifies as a focus city.


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2891 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
I hope WS Express will fly YYC - SEA/PDX and maybe (but just maybe) YVR-SEA/PDX

Yeah, me too, but as others have pointed out is AS doesn't like to give much here in the Pacific NW, and WS would likely have to enter a lengthy pissing match with QX & AC to retain a decent slice of the market share.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 13):
I could see YYC-PDX/SEA

Oddly, YYC-PDX doesn't have a direct contender, maybe like NK did recently, they begin with OR & WA services, starting in PDX, maybe it'll be easier and more welcoming than a battle on any other route. If it works add some more flights.



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User currently offlineHawaiian763 From Canada, joined May 2009, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Quoting ykaops (Reply 20):
YYC-DEN, SEA, PDX, SLC, GEG , BOI , YXJ, YXS, (new routes)

That's a bit of a risky gamble flying non-stop routes into Washington and Oregon, especially with the large presence of AS there. My guess is WS will probably focus on the smaller cities within Canada first before expanding south of the border.


25 ykaops : I dont think WS focus is necessarily "smaller" communities per se, to some degree yes, but with 40 Q400's, I think they would be utlizing them more t
26 Infiniti329 : Manhattan is smack dab in middle between EWR and LGA. People living south of midtown usually will lean towards EWR. While people living in north of m
27 Post contains links 9252fly : Looks like Jazz just exercised some options on more Q400 aircraft,not that I imagine this has anything to to with WS. http://www.marketwatch.com/story
28 JAGflyer : I question the idea of serving London (YYZ). For one, it is a 2 hour drive to YYZ who are going to YHZ/YYT. I'd say for sure YOW (off peak),and perha
29 Post contains images cyeg66 : Since it looks like WS is unwilling to specify which hub (YYC/YYZ?) they're to initially start ops from, let me chuck in my 2 cents: It'll most certai
30 Post contains images spiritair97 : I hope we see them into BDL and PVD. And hell, if somebody can suggest HPN, I can suggest ISP!
31 mayor : "Smaller" cities???? ORD??
32 saloman : My thoughts as well. All the communications surround the regional carrier is that it will target "neglected domestic markets" first, while serving ex
33 NorthStarDC4M : AC/QKs current schedule is all I will say... 3/4x Q400, 7/8x DH8A, every weekday. Yes it's only 2 hours down the 401, but it's none-the-less a very ac
34 JAGflyer : YGK was always one of the fullest B1900 routes out of YYZ. Places like Sarnia, Providence, Westchester, and others were not. Single digit pax loads.
35 redzeppelin : Given the code-share relationship with DL, might we see them add YYC-SLC or YYC-MSP? Delta already serves both routes, but could it happen?
36 bobloblaw : How about reintroduction of flights to Edmonton Municipal?
37 jamincan : I know that neither of them are Westjet hubs, but for me, YOW/YUL-YHM/YXU/YKF makes a lot of sense. More than pretty much any new route out of YYZ.
38 C172Akula : Hahahahaha, no way that happens. Although in an alternate reality it would be really cool.
39 Post contains links Viscount724 : Not permitted and YXD is, sadly, due to close in the next couple of years, to be replaced by this: http://www.edmonton.ca/city_governme...re-airport-
40 jporterfi : Could we see YYZ-ATL? It's a long shot, I know, but it would compete with QK and DL's existing service.
41 baje427 : Is that not a bit long of a route for the Q it 749 mi according to circle mapper I know QX does longer routes but ATL does not see much props.
42 kgaiflyer : In a Q400 turboprop ? Seriously ?
43 kgaiflyer : Yeah, I do SEA-BIL / BIL-SEA all the time on Horizon. But YYZ-ATL seems . . . longer somehow.
44 northstardc4m : YYZ-ATL would be crazy on the Q400. DL would fare match and Westjet would be dead in the water trying to run Q400s against CR7s and E17xs. University
45 N62NA : Not at all correct. Please refer to the numerous topics on here devoted to EWR vs LGA/JFK.
46 baje427 : What about US routes from YYZ perhaps YYZ-IAD,YYZ-BOS,YYZ-PHL would they be able to get these flights to work?
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