Milemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1134 posts, RR: 2 Posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
Hi everyone.. I know I'm at the right place when I need advice on where to stay in european cities and what flights to take.
I'll be going with a group of 3 to AMS on Nov. 23rd through Nov. 29th. I have 3 choices with similar fares.. 529.00/pp incl. tax is the same with AA, NW, BA, or AF.
We are departing from DFW to AMS:
AA and BA are 777's, connecting with A319's, NW is a DC9 from DFW connecting with a KLM DC10 in DTW(good for a last chance on a DC10 & DC9). The AF is a A340 connecting with an A319 in CDG.
My question is: Which is the best route to take? I want PTV's.. so I guess the DC10 is out, but is there an advantage? Is KLM inflight service worth it?
Second question... We want to stay in at least a 4 star hotel near the "good part" of Amsterdam. We plan on hitting all the clubs and coffeeshops. Where should we stay? Where should we go? Our main purpose for travelling is the hip coffeeshops as that is what we don't get the privilege of here in the U.S.
I look forward to eveyone's suggestions... Especially AMS natives.
Il76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2134 times:
I'm from amsterdam, and also worked for KLM. KLM is fine, not bad at all. If it's cheap and a convenient connection, take it.
As for Amsterdam; 4 star hotels? You rich fellow eh?
Any big hotel is near the centre in a way. Don't worry. I'm sure you'll enjoy Amsterdam's coffeeshops, just know where you're going. You'll probably end up mingling with English tourists, because local people have their own little places to escape the tourists. Foreign coffeeshop visitors are nothing like locals, who prefer a good time rather than getting high as quick as possible. So if you do end up among the loud English, don't think the Dutch are like that too... Just covering my ass.
Malina From Germany, joined Jul 2000, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2117 times:
I would recommend KLM. I don't know if they have PTV's by now, but they definitely don't run DC-10's anymore, they use MD-11's.
Amsterdam Schiphol is a fantastic airport and you will not need to change planes at hubs like Paris or London and thereby lose extra time that way.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4573 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2113 times:
As an Amsterdam resident, I can say, don't worry about the hotels. Amsterdam is not that big, just make sure you find something in the Centrum and you'll be close, walking distance, to all coffeeshops and clubs. (I still wonder what's the fun of coffeeshops, there are much better things to do in Amsterdam).
the DC-10 is indeed of Northwest. Neither NW or KLM have private TV's yet, but their service is fine. Take BA, AF or UA 777s for PTV (their 747s might not have it yet, I'm not sure).
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
I have not heard good things about KLM service lately. If it is, as someone says, really NW, you would not miss KLM anyhow.
As to hotels, AMS is not big. I stay at the Hotel Amsterdam which is right by th Damn Square and the train station. GREAT location for everything. I do not know if it is 4 star, but it is clean, weel runn and nice rooms. The location is what is so great.
I always book my hotels through UntiedVactions.com. You can get some good deals, or UTELL.com. If you are flying AA or BA, KL, they often have a "hotel Department" which can book hotels at a lower rate when you purchase plane ticekts with them (United Vacations does not require u to be flying UA).
Enjoy! I always like AMS.
PS Look for a hotel near Central Station or Damn Square
DLL10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2030 times:
BA has got the better legroom (once again a fact, not personal opinion) and the seats on the 777 are always wider than on the 340 (also a fact). I have never been to CDG, but LHR and Heathrow takes up a heck of a lor of time if you have to change terminals (which is interesting though). But as you will be flying itno Terminal 4 and flights to AMS leave from 4, you will definitely be well off at LHR. Plus, BA has PTV's and a lot of other amenities on board.
Milemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1134 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1967 times:
Yeah, I've heard the same thing about AMS being a spectacular place to spot. I plan on bringing my camera and taking full advantage of me being there.
I appreciate all the good input as to which airline to take... funny how nobody suggested the two AA 777 flights through ZRH.
So BA 777 it is..Got a price for $1637.00 R/T DFW-LHR-AMS for 3 seats. Not bad in my opinion.
It's my understanding that the BA 777 is 2x5x2 in coach, so I'm wondering if I should book the seats in front of the Lavs (27 C,D,E?) since there will be nobody behind us and we want to sit together. Is the seat pitch effected by this? Also, what about right behind the lavs, is there more legroom? Are the PTV's too far away?
AT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1952 times:
No the BA 777s all have 3-3-3 seating, not 2-5-2.
I just flew with them (LHR to EWR) and they are wonderful. The Economy section is fairly small (door 3 to door 4 only) and the way they are configured there are not really any seats with extra legroom.
FlyBoeing From United States of America, joined May 2000, 866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
It's not a good idea to sit near the lavs, buddy. That's asking for trouble since if the lavs have problems you smell it all the way to London. Plus there'll be people passing by at all hours and you'll be too near the galley.