ETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 621 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4618 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 1):
Too bad for anybody in FCO who wanted to see it. I know the IAD flight connects through there, but it's still cool to see the inaugural.
True, the IAD flight leaves ADD 15 min before the YYZ one, so there will be a 2x 77L convoy from ADD-FCO and a good part of the TATL leg as well. would be nice to capture that on camera at FCO.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4616 times:
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 2): True, the IAD flight leaves ADD 15 min before the YYZ one, so there will be a 2x 77L convoy from ADD-FCO and a good part of the TATL leg as well. would be nice to capture that on camera at FCO.
ETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 621 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4304 times:
Quoting qm001 (Reply 4): Do they have traffic rights on the FCO YYZ leg? I wouldn't mind hopping on that sometime!
Unfortunately no
AFAIK, they have not applied for one. It is purely a fueling stop due to ADD altitude, a stop or heavy penalty on weight is required on the westbound leg.
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6883 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4247 times:
Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 6): Anyone know why they chose FCO over MAD, BCN, or LIS?
I think that's been answered. IIRC, ET already served FCO so they already had a station there. And Ethiopia having been an Italian colony generates traffic between the two countries that wouldn't exist between any other city pair.
don From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3602 times:
The Ethiopian Airlines inaugural flight to YYZ (ETH 502) is on the way from FCO now, expected to land around 07.30 local time. This is, IMHO one of the least publicized inaugural flights I have seen.
JAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3321 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3225 times:
ET502 landed about an hour or so late in YYZ on Rwy 23. I saw the plane on final from my office parking lot. ET crew wears a very interesting green uniform (google for pics).
Supported the beer and soda can industry, recycle old airplanes!
Skytrax is a very subjective airline quality ranking system. There are so many combinations and permutations taken into account that it isn't really what I would consider a "reliable" source of information. I personally visit the TR forums right here on ANET to get more accurate data points on what type of service to expect.
Ethiopian does appear to have a very solid product based on the reviews I have read.
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 14): Finally out of YYZ - slow of the blocks (why, not sure, any info anyone has?) but she is on her way back to ADD:
It was about an hour late into YYZ and with the "first day kinks" I expected a delay. Perhaps they had issues at check-in, baggage handling, catering, etc.
Supported the beer and soda can industry, recycle old airplanes!
thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
Quoting BA777-236 (Reply 21): There are pictures of the arrival and celebration on the Toronto Pearson Airport Facebook page...
what a scam.
In two of the pictures, a banner is there, and it cleary states "first non stop between Africa and Canada". This is clearly false, as YUL has had non stop to CMN and ALG for years now.
Amateurs !!
Thenoflyzone
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
flightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 849 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 22): In two of the pictures, a banner is there, and it cleary states "first non stop between Africa and Canada". This is clearly false, as YUL has had non stop to CMN and ALG for years now.
Don't leave what the first part of the message says "Toronto Pearson and Ethiopian Airlines brings you the first non-stop between Africa and Canada"... It was in relation to "Toronto" not the rest of Canada. Ethiopian is the first airline to do that.
I truly wish them all the best, especially the large Ethiopian community of Toronto.
thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 11 Reply 24, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2079 times:
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23): Don't leave what the first part of the message says "Toronto Pearson and Ethiopian Airlines brings you the first non-stop between Africa and Canada"... It was in relation to "Toronto" not the rest of Canada. Ethiopian is the first airline to do that.
First part of the message does absolutely nothing to correct what is an innacurate statement. They could have said "Tim Hortons and Dunkin Donuts bring you....." and it would still convey the wrong message. They should have stated " between Africa and Toronto".
Thenoflyzone
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
26 ETinCaribe: Since when is Quebec part of Canada??? On se calme, c'est une (mauvaise) blague
27 thenoflyzone: 1867... A joke that could be very costly. People have sued for less. YYZ is lucky this isn't the States. Edit: Incidently, those two pictures in ques
28 Viscount724: Fifth freedom rights aren't very useful when you only operate in one direction. 90% of people are flying round trip. The schedule would also be very
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