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Am I The Only One?  
User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Am I the only one that is very upset that DTW has no more public observation areas anymore? The spot that was at the approach end of runway 21R is the spot I am talking about.


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I understand airport expansion will kill an observation area quicker than flies stick to s***!!!!!!! What I cannot figure out, is the logic of the Metro Airport management. They say you are allowed to watch from the perimeter... Well, the cops obviously dont know that. They still run you out. Another thing... An observation area is good for the airport! Why? Because, it only takes one cop to watch over us crazy airplane fanatics rather than a whole police force to patrol the entire airport. Agree? I have found an email, to someone who will take our opinions on this subject.. An official observation area at DTW..

MTHOMEY@co.wayne.mi.us

I believe if they hear from more of us, then its possible we might get something done. DTW is expanding, and it will bring more interesting airlines. You will have trouble seeing the action from the so called areas you can watch now, because of the cops... I need to move to Europe. This is rediculous.

 Angry



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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I agree with you, even though i havent been to DTW, you make a solid case...


Go big or go home
User currently offlineSkihigh2002 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

At both Geneva and Paris you must have a ticket to enter the terminal area. So don't move just yet...

Chris/MEM


User currently offlineAC340 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Like those destinations mentioned above, Canadian law requires a boarding card to get into the Departure areas of Canadian airports, sadly.  Sad

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

This is the reply I got from this very person... He needs to hear others opinions...

The reason the area near the approach of 21R was enforced, is due to the scraps and garbage people left while eating, creating a place for waterfowl and other birds to collect. As you know, birds and jet engines do not mix and it was creating a hazzard for inbound and outbound aircraft. Detroit Metro has definitely not forgotten about the people who enjoy watching a plane land, as do I. If you go to this website http://fly.to/detroitmetro you will find a map listing the best places to watch these planes and other helpful tips about planespotting and photography. Any other questions please call or email, thanks.

Marques Thomey
External Relations
Wayne County's Detroit Metro Airport
734 247-7351

Yea, ok, a bunch of horse sheet of you ask me.



User currently offlineDasa From East Timor, joined Aug 2001, 760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

At MEL, there is a small parking lot near the threshold of runway 16, and there is a public viewing gallery (open air) on top of the terminal building.
i also hear there are good views from the new hilton hotel opposite the terminal.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

If people cannot learn to clean up behind their a***s, they have only themselves to blame when viewing areas are closed down.
If you see someone dumping something, talk to him about it. If he does not clean up, give a good example and clean up after him.
In return, you might expect the airport (or whoever owns the area) to put up some garbagebins.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineDLL10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 1454 times:

Well, the same problem is present at most european airports. In fact most airports in Europe will not letyou through security without a boarding pass, if you are at all allowed into the terminal. It really sucks and I enjoy getting to the REAL airports like ORD, MSP etc. every time !

User currently offlineZRB2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 1444 times:

I was at O'hare recently and could not find an observation area. Although i could walk around the concourses and look out various windows.

Take a cheap flight sometime over to BWI.
BWI has a great observation area that overlooks the Southwest and Continental concourses and gives you a nice view of the runways. They have plenty of seats, an eatery and a small aviation museum up there. The only bad part is that they close it off to the public occassionally for private parties or gatherings. I've run into this twice.


User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

BWI,DCA, been there dont that.. Used to live there from 1998-2001. I dont goto DTW enough to be watcing over people to pick up their trash... If they put up signs to report litterers, maybe that might get their attention. I assure you, this wasnt the only thing involved with them shutting down the observation area.



User currently offlineAIRNZ_747-800 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Hey Ryan, thanks for putting me on your respected user's list! I truly appreciate it! I put you on my respected users list as well. Have a great day!

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

Observation decks, in the US, used to be fairly common, that is, until security factors came into play. I recall a great observation deck at ORD near AA's gates. In fact, we had one at MSY until about 15 years ago.

I think if airports took the approach that OKC does, with their fully enclosed, air conditioned, observation deck, we would be better served.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

At Maastricht Aachen Airport (NL) the airportmanagement is also not spotters-friendly. They are building around the terrace and to park your car it cost you a fortune. Not only spotters are suffering, also the people who want to wave to their flying family and friends are complaining. Stupid airport!

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

OBSERVATION AREAS... Not observation decks. I understand that for security reasons (even though in Europe its different (?) ) you can t have observation decks... I was talking observation area on the perimeter.



User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

You can have observation decks, security reasons or not. Off the airports I visited Schiphol (nl), Rotterdam (nl) and Dusseldorf (D) had observation decks. All three of them were (partly) open.


Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

WOuldnt Europe be more easily accessed by terrorists? Why does Europe allow observation decks? Maybe security over there thakes their job more seriously, or something. It doesnt make sense to say the US closes the decks because of security, when you can look at other places of the word and they have these places for the enthusiast.

 Sad


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