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Caribbean Aviation- The Centurion Thread  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15455 times:

Greetings to all A.net patrons!

Welcome to the 100th instalment of Caribbean Aviation!!!. This 100th edition will put emphasis on the pivotal changes over the past 100 threads that have occurred in Caribbean Aviation. The past 100 threads consists of just about 6 full years of discussion, consisting approximately 200,000 posts!! The thread has rarely seen a dull moment with a plethora of lively and informative discussions. One cannot deny that some of these discussions developed into heated and emotional rantings, however, the single common element that unites all of us on here is our burning passion for the industry and our collective desire to see it thrive in a sustainable manner within our unique region.

Without further ado, I'd like to thank all members that have contributed to this milestone.

(Listed in alphabetical order)

2travel2know - Panama
817Dreamliner - Montserrat
8b775zq - St. Kitts and Nevis
9YCAL - Trinidad and Tobago
A388 - Curacao
AA1818 - Trinidad and Tobago
Airjamaica - Jamaica
Ahlfors - Canada/ Antigua
Andrefranca - Brazil
Baje427 - Barbados
BE77 - Canada
Beeweel15 - USA/ Trinidad and Tobago
BigMac - Suriname
Bloddyrascal - Bahamas
BW415 - Trinidad and Tobago
BW424 - Trinidad and Tobago
BW985 - Trinidad and Tobago
BWIA330 - Canada/ Trinidad and Tobago
BWIA772 - Barbados
CaptainK - Grenada
Caribbean484 - Trinidad and Tobago
Caymanair - Cayman Islands
CO777DAL - USA
Divemaster08 - Cayman Islands
GUYAIR707 - Guyana
Guyanam - Guyana/ USA
Hausauflennon - Barbados
Hummingbird- Jamaica
Inbound - Trinidad and Tobago
JM02 - United Kingdom/ Jamaica
JM017 - Jamaica
JM079 - Jamaica
JMBWEEBOY - Jamaica/ Trinidad and Tobago/ USA
Kasimir - Curacao
LIA310 - Grenada/ Trinidad and Tobago
LimaFoxTango - Antigua and Barbuda
LimaMike- Jamaica
Lucianflyboy - St. Lucia
MAH4546 - Sweden
MaverickM11 - USA
MBJ-11 - Jamaica
MD90fan - Bahamas
N312RM - Cayman Islands
NASBWI - Bahamas
OA260- Ireland
OP3000 - USA
PanAmOLDDC8 - Barbados
Panman - Trinidad and Tobago
Par13del - Bahamas
SJOtoLIR - Costa Rica
SCL767 - Chile
Speedbird2155 - United Kingdom
Speedbird2263 - Jamaica
TransIsland - Bahamas
TriniA340 - Trinidad and Tobago
Trintocan - Trinidad and Tobago/ United Kingdom
Turk223 - Barbados
Wadadli - Antigua and Barbuda
WestIndian425 - USA/ Trinidad and Tobago
Windian425 - Barbados
Yankeejuliet - Jamaica
Yellowtail -Belize

(I certainly hope I didn't forget anyone in the listing)




*****News Feed*******
AA to reduce MIA-UVF from daily to 4x weekly Aug. 21, 2012
Redjet officially ceases operations
CM starts PTY-CUR route (Jun 10, 2012)
LIAT hangar and DHC-8 (V2-LGH) destroyed in fire in ANU
BW begins LGW service with wet-leased Omni B763s 2x weekly
BW B763s sitting in MEX as TTCAA undergoes FAA audit
USA and PBM enter open skies agreement (Jun 21, 2012)
All JM-painted B738s to be rebranded to BW
BW to sell 4 of 9 ATRs ordered on open market
EZjet announces GEO-YYZ to begin July 17, 2012
BW reportedly loses ETOPS 120min certification





Happy Centurion Posting!!


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15506 times:

Wow Thanks man and everyone for those 6 years, we had to rough times and the good times but 100 forums it just awesome.


All ah we is one family
User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 15434 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 1):
Wow Thanks man and everyone for those 6 years, we had to rough times and the good times but 100 forums it just awesome.

"Ditto"

Lets keep it going to the Second Centurion


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15342 times:

Hello all,

BW424 my apologies for not getting back on your request to give information on the first flight from the Caribbean to Europe (KLM's Fokker aircraft named Snip) but I am too busy at work and have gone to Colombia due to the premature birth of my children who are doing well by the way. I will go back and forth to Colombia (Bogota) a few times to see my family there. I can now join the fatherhood club 

It is great to see that we have reached this fantastic milestone. Congratulations to everybody and their contributions!!!

News from Curacao is that DAE will add 3 additional weekly flights starting this August to Miami. The new flight will depart Curacao at 9 PM and return the next day departing at 7 AM. This will bring DAE's total number of flights to Miami to 10 weekly and the total number of flights from Curacao to Miami to 31 weekly flights. On mondays, fridays and sundays there will be 5 flights from Curacao to Miami!!!

DAE will also receive their first of two ATR72's but I have no date yet.

A388


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15341 times:

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Cheers,

A388


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6218 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15317 times:

Good job on the new thread. Centurion sounds downright Olympic so it is quite fitting


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 737 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 15286 times:

My favorite thread to read, always interesting and full of passion. Congrats to my Caribbean aviation addicts.

User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15245 times:

Congrats on making it to thread 100

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15210 times:

100th Caribbean aviation thread.. Kudos to all who made it happen..


I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15214 times:

Nice title and intro for this thread!!

Now what's this about BW losing ETOPS? That would be a killer! That would affect the London and US routes, unless they want to go for the 747/A340. LOL!!! (Not gonna happen...)



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15092 times:

Quoting westindian425 (Reply 9):

Is this a further barrier for the LGW and if so what happens to the 2 767s. Nicholas will go down in history as CALs biggest disaster. Why so many mistakes?


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6218 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15082 times:

Fingers crossed on CM announcements for the Caribbean folks. Sometime between now and september.

me thinks ANU, BGI, BON and BZE are all up for consideration!



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15042 times:

Thanks for starting the new thread BW424, Congrats to everyone who has participated in the 6 years of the Caribbean aviation thread! , Heres to the next 100 threads!

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
All JM-painted B738s to be rebranded to BW

Expected. Well I guess thats that for JM, should have done so a long time ago.

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
BW to sell 4 of 9 ATRs ordered on open market

I posted in the previous thread that the JM liveried ATR was repainted into a ATR livery to be displayed at Farnborough.

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
BW reportedly loses ETOPS 120min certification

Hmmmm, I assume this may be a result of the FAA audit?

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):

Congrats on the birth of your children A388! Was wondering why you havent been on for a while good luck with the fathering  .

BTW A388 I posted som pics of a not so secret spotting location here in MNI have a look:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7564891954_4ea7312178_b.jpg
IMG-20120713-00139 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7564892070_fbd3abf59c_b.jpg
IMG-20120713-00140 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7564892136_a72903771e_b.jpg
IMG-20120713-00142 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7564891896_b6e8d70a2a_b.jpg
IMG-20120713-00143 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

Hope you guys like them, they will be part of my trip report in September.



Reality be Rent. Synapse, break! Vanishment, This World!
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14994 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 11):
me thinks ANU, BGI, BON and BZE are all up for consideration!

Change ANU and BON for GEO, PBM or SCU perhaps?
Folks on ANU finally noticed how many passengers CM is moving in SXM?
BON making an offer $$$ making CM think about that island?



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3240 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14975 times:

Congratulations to all for this 100th Caribbean Aviation thread - in fact this thread is one of the pioneer regional threads on this site with several others having come about ever since. The timing is perfect with the London Games coming up and Caribbean expectations running high plus the 50th anniversaries of Independence for Jamaica and Trinidad & Tobago in August. Best wishes to all and let's keep the good work up.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14938 times:

Congratulations guys, too all the caribbean folk! I love this part of the world, my first international destination since I was 7 years old! always sunny, people always smiling and friendly etc... etc.... in 2013 I'll have my 4 th return 
Quoting westindian425 (Reply 9):
Now what's this about BW losing ETOPS? That would be a killer! That would affect the London and US routes, unless they want to go for the 747/A340. LOL!!! (Not gonna happen...)

Oops, maybe we're going to see the LON route gone earlier than we thoouuuuuught!

Quoting guyanam (Reply 10):
Why so many mistakes

It can be a leader/CEO thing, on my 5 years of university on management grounds, we learn very often that some CEOs think they are THE entrepreneur because they made it to the ceo chair, but they lack vision or they spend much much much more thinking he'll gain the double, but it doesn't always happen! great example not only CAL, but Xerox, in the past there was no competitor and the CEO's on Xerox though they ruled the world, after many extravaganzas spending they felt it and today we almost don't hear of xerox anymore....

I don't know nicholas real background to judge him....

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 11):
Fingers crossed on CM announcements for the Caribbean folks. Sometime between now and september.

I'll bet on BGI BZE VRA or even GCM SLU

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 12):
Expected. Well I guess thats that for JM, should have done so a long time ago.

Agreed! from the moment they had AJ that was that, I mean jmcans knew they'd no longer have their so beloved and original AJ, in my point of view the time and money they wasted trying to make the "one caribbean one airline" idea perfect will hurt for a while.... it's is a beautiful idea, we all here expect that, there was even a huge discussion on that, but can they afford it right now? hmmmmmmm....


User currently offlineN312RM From Cayman Islands, joined Mar 2012, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14920 times:
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Quoting westindian425 (Reply 9):
Now what's this about BW losing ETOPS? That would be a killer! That would affect the London and US routes, unless they want to go for the 747/A340. LOL!!! (Not gonna happen...)

This doesn't seem right. To the best of my knowledge, it is the individual aircraft that receives ETOPS certification, not the airline. As I have said in the previous threads, when an airline introduces a new aircraft type, such as BW and the B767, they must be certified by their principal regulator, in this case the TTCAA, as fit to operate the type. In my mind, the issue must lie with the TTCAA giving the requisite approvals. I shudder to think of the financial consequences for BW if they are unable to get LGW service implemented soon.

It is really a shame that JM livery will disappear from BW aircraft, although the writing has been on the wall for some time. RIP JM!


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14890 times:

Your most welcome guys! Let's keep up the great convos!

Quoting westindian425 (Reply 9):
Now what's this about BW losing ETOPS? That would be a killer! That would affect the London and US routes, unless they want to go for the 747/A340. LOL!!!

US routes will now be 10-15 minutes longer because of the need to stay within the 60min rule. This in effect causes the airline to spend millions more annually on fuel. As for LGW, forget about it with CAL equipment. This further pegs down the airline as now CAL has 2 763s that they now have to MAKE work for the 5 yrs that they are leased. I truly wish somehow CAL can get out of this 767 deal, but I doubt it.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):

Congratulations on becoming a father A388!!

As for DAE, I guess they're doing well. 10x weekly seems pretty good. Whenever I'm heading to the airport gym and look at the departure screens, DAE always seems to be leaving later than usual. I'll check their load factors tomorrow to see how they're doing.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 12):
Hmmmm, I assume this may be a result of the FAA audit?

Not certain on that....probably someone closer to ground can confirm. But, I'd bet on that being the reason.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 15):
It can be a leader/CEO thing, on my 5 years of university on management grounds, we learn very often that some CEOs think they are THE entrepreneur because they made it to the ceo chair, but they lack vision or they spend much much much more thinking he'll gain the double, but it doesn't always happen! great example not only CAL, but Xerox, in the past there was no competitor and the CEO's on Xerox though they ruled the world, after many extravaganzas spending they felt it and today we almost don't hear of xerox anymore....

I don't know nicholas real background to judge him

You see, that's the misunderstanding right there. Nicholas was NEVER EVER CEO. He purported himself to be a high-handed know-it-all executive while he was a spoiled, ignorant, arrogant and disrespectful idiot. Nicholas was chair of the board. His role was suppose to be one of policy and strategic direction (things I'm sure he and is board have no clue of). They are not suppose to be involved in the day-to-day operations of the airline. Nicholas fired CEO Brunton to do just that. As for his background.......nothing to talk about.......his only position being within a family business. Anyway, he's gone, but his replacement isn't a "thank god" relief either; however, he is taking advice from the original management that still is at the airline.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14815 times:

Great milestone! Lets hope for some good news in this thread. I hope BW can get all there stuff sorted out.


Worked Hard. Flew Right. Farewell, Continental. Thanks for the memories.
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 14738 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 17):
You see, that's the misunderstanding right there. Nicholas was NEVER EVER CEO. He purported himself to be a high-handed know-it-all executive while he was a spoiled, ignorant, arrogant and disrespectful idiot. Nicholas was chair of the board. His role was suppose to be one of policy and strategic direction (things I'm sure he and is board have no clue of). They are not suppose to be involved in the day-to-day operations of the airline. Nicholas fired CEO Brunton to do just that. As for his background.......nothing to talk about.......his only position being within a family business. Anyway, he's gone, but his replacement isn't a "thank god" relief either; however, he is taking advice from the original management that still is at the airline.

Right, and as you're an insider, I ask you, how come he made it? I mean why did he last so long and who is he in TNT? is his family in the TNT politics? is he trini? how was he able to disgrace the airline so quickly (not only counting the wrong decisions)? no one saw that coming or were unable to make it stop? I might not know lots of CAL but it seemed to be a prominent airline in the caribbean, mainly after the "re-start up"? I flew it once, and found it OK. nothing more, nothing less.... and now it can vanish any second.

[Edited 2012-07-18 03:52:42]

User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 14730 times:

Challenge for CAL’s Jamaica operations
By Vernon Khelawan Thursday, July 12 2012

JAMAICANS by nature are passionately patriotic and fiercely loyal to their country and any indigenous industry they can lay claim to and these are the two attributes that could prove to be a tough challenge for Caribbean Airlines in its Jamaica operations for the remainder of 2012 and into 2013.

After posting serious losses of some (US)$38 million in 2011 and the prospects for 2012 not particularly bright, comes the news that a new Jamaican airline is about to take flight and will compete directly with CAL’s Air Jamaica brand on most of its lucrative routes to North America.

In a Jamaica Gleaner story last week, it was reported that Fly Jamaica Airways (FJA) is expected to begin operations next month with scheduled services to Guyana, New York and Toronto using its own B-757 twin-engined jet with a configuration of 12/186, making a total payload of 198 seats.

Chief Operating Officer (COO) Captain Lloyd Tai said FJA will appeal to the diaspora concentrated in these metropolitan areas in the US and Canada. He said, “It’s a Jamaican airline. Most of our staff will be Jamaican and persons in the diaspora will know that we are for them. They are more accustomed to a Jamaican airline.”

Tai’s statement must be regarded as a not so subtle hint that FJA was going after CAL’s Air Jamaica brand passengers and this was further amplified when Tai added, “Once the reaction is good and we expect it to be…” It would seem then it is CAL to catch.

Fly Jamaica Airways is a partnership between Guyana-born Paul Ronald Reece, who owns Guyana-based Wings Aviation Inc, and three Jamaican shareholders, including Tai and Manager, In-flight services Christine Steele.

So, apart from its current frightening financial position, State-owned Caribbean Airlines is facing a plethora of other challenges in many areas of its operations.

Two of these challenges which now seriously affect the airline’s bottom line are the leases they continue to pay Chilean airline LAN for airplanes they cannot now use and the urgent need to sell off four brand, new state-of-the-art ATR -72-600 aircraft, it had ordered, without actually taking possession of them.

A shortage of pilots is another challenge the airline is now dealing with. Acquisition of the ATRs, which now service the airbridge together with the aging Dash-8s as well as some other Caribbean destinations, means eventually getting rid of the present Dash-8-300 fleet.

This in turn means cockpit crews transitioning from the Dash to the ATRs, but since there is uncertainty in the arrival of the new planes, management is now forced to do a critical balancing act to keep just enough Dash-8 pilots while at the same time training pilots for duty on the ATRs, when the Dash-8s are finally replaced. The interim solution employed by the airline is hiring ‘ex-pat’ pilots on short term contracts to fly the Dash-8s.

On the other side of that coin however, is the situation with the crews have been trained, at great cost, to fly the two leased B-767-ER200 aircraft, which were earmarked to operate the London Gatwick services which was inaugurated on June 14 last. These crews while still being paid, have no alternative but to sit at home with no planes to fly.

Because of an oversight problem regarding the leased B-767s, which the Trinidad and Tobago Civil Aviation Authority (TTCAA) is now trying to resolve, CAL was forced into a wet lease agreement for a similar aircraft from Omni International, an aircraft leasing company based in Maryland, USA. Business Day understands the going rate for a wet lease arrangement is around (US)$1000 per hour, which means that a round trip POS-LGW-POS – could cost close to (US)$20,000.

The two planes in question, already painted in CAL’s colours and livery, remain sitting in Mexico awaiting solution of an oversight problem. Three weeks ago, a CAA official told Business Day those planes should become available to CAL by the end of July.

However, after four weekends of London service, Caribbean Airlines is yet to reveal how the transAtlantic loads have been. On its inaugural flight on June 14 there were 153 passengers to London and on the return, Business Day understands some 111 passengers travelled to Port of Spain.

Source: http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,163183.html



LIAT summer schedule gives customers more ways to connect
Thursday, July 12 2012

REGIONAL airline LIAT launched its 2012 summer schedule on Wednesday July 4 affording Car-ibbean travellers an extensive network to connect throughout its 21 destinations.

“This summer, LIAT is extremely happy to announce several new routes being offered providing more travel options to the regional market.

“We continue to add more efficient and effective ways of connecting the region and its people,” Manager Schedule Planning, Mr. Dale Stoute said adding that “this summer will be a very interesting and exciting one for the company.”

The ten-week schedule, which runs until September 11, will offer a daily service into and out of Martinique connecting passengers to Antigua and other destinations in the north.

A daily flight will also be introduced from St Kitts to San Juan, Puerto Rico through St Maarten, departing St Kitts at 6:45am and arriving in San Juan at 9:30am. Passengers travelling from San Juan to St Kitts will have two options, departing in the morning at 10:40am and 3:05pm daily.

Two daily San Juan flights from Tortola (British Virgin Islands) were also reintroduced offering morning and evening departures.

Meanwhile, customers originating or connecting in Antigua now have an additional flight to San Juan with the introduction of a 6:45am flight from the V.C. Bird International Airport and arriving in San Juan at 9:40am with the return flight departing at 8:35pm.

Stoute also noted that the addition of these services during the summer were expected to benefit passengers travelling to San Juan for shopping and other services as well as passengers connecting on other airlines through the San Juan hub.

Source: http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,163182.html


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3240 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14695 times:

Quoting N312RM (Reply 16):

This doesn't seem right. To the best of my knowledge, it is the individual aircraft that receives ETOPS certification, not the airline. As I have said in the previous threads, when an airline introduces a new aircraft type, such as BW and the B767, they must be certified by their principal regulator, in this case the TTCAA, as fit to operate the type.

No. There are 2 aspects to ETOPS, namely type approval which is granted to a particular model of aircraft during design certification. The other aspect is operational certification, which is granted to an airline by its regulatory body (in this case the TTCAA) based on the airline's ability to train staff, carry out maintenance procedures and so on with relation to safely conducting such flights. As such, while a 767-300ER may have type approval for say 120 minutes of ETOPS, an airline cannot simply buy one of them and start using it for such flights until it has operational certification. The airline may be able to fly the plane but would be restricted to routes not needing ETOPS approval. Recall if you may this issue arose around 2001 when Trinidad and Tobago was downgraded to Category 2 by the ICAO. Old BW wanted to buy A330s for its LHR route but with the downgrade the TTCAA could no longer grant any ETOPS approvals. BW was forced to buy A340s instead.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlinefpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 14625 times:

Just read in "The Nassau Guardian" link below, that the Bahamas Ministry of Tourism is going after Latin Amierican residents.

Wondering what airlines they are in talks with and what destinations to add to Copa's PTY-NAS? TAM, LAN? What was surprising is that there is no liquor in the airports there, and is there really a market for this venture?


http://www.thenassauguardian.com/ind...ourists&catid=40:business&Itemid=2


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 14566 times:

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FJA will quickly drop its GEO routes if it is to survive. That market is already well served assuming that EZJet stays around.

We will see if FJA makes inroads into BWs KIN base. Maybe they will if their service is reliable.


User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14488 times:

Congratulations all on reaching 100 Threads.
Good job to a very small selection of members who have taken the personal responsibility of giving us a "home" on this forum over the last 6 years.

Here's to another 100  



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25 yellowtail : TA(AV) for sure. TA has from time to time entertained the idea of expanding more into the Caribbean. With the Panamanian UA getting to all the low ha
26 andrefranca : I agree with one thing on the article: "inflation prices make bahamas look cheaper" LOL but it's a fact, I've been traveling around on the past 6 yea
27 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Congrats on the Century not out! Here's to another 100! -2263
28 fpofllflyboi : G3 actually seems very probable or possible with many Brazilians trying to get to the US. Im absolutely NOT trying to say NAS is an alternative to th
29 andrefranca : G3's flight to MIA was imminent, they started offering out seats to pax redeeming their miles only, I believe the normal flights will soon follow....
30 windian425 : Keeping my fingers crossed for the PTY-BGI CM service to start this year. Hopefully with the E190.
31 Post contains images yellowtail : Fingers crossed for you too at BGI....as long as it doesn't take the place of BZE-PTY
32 2travel2know2 : Seems that GEO and PBM would have to wait. A second CM Cuban destination - I believe - is a question of time now.
33 A388 : Thanks for your replies 817Dreamliiner and BW424!!! I guess because of the 100th anniversary of the Caribbean aviation threads, my post got overlooke
34 Post contains links and images BW985 : Congratulations to all of us for reaching 100 Caribbean threads! Some good news at last? http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,163540.html BW985
35 Post contains links baje427 : Skytrax list the best Caribbean/ Central American airports. http://www.worldairportawards.com/Aw...2012/list_bestairport_camerica.htm
36 turk223 : From your all's mouths to Copa's ears... I am not able to handle one more 16 hour odyssey to get home from Colombia... I tell you! Because of the hop
37 baje427 : If CM do start PTY-BGI will it be launched this year?
38 yellowtail : Me too, I have to buy some tickets to PTY, CTG and BOG for early next year that I am holding off on. Well if they announce in say September, that wou
39 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Congrats all on the 100 thread mark! I see we have inspired many other regional forums on here. Congrats to A388 as well on becoming a father. LIAT Sh
40 817Dreamliiner : Nice to finally see some progress with LIAT
41 BWIA 772 : Congrats on thread 100, it was touch and go during the early days but it is nice to see how the thread has flourished. Well hopefully the ATRs got the
42 andrefranca : Yes but wouldn't be a huuuuggggeeeee step backward to get LIAT staff already used to Dash metal to get new/different training, etc.... etc.... etc...
43 A388 : There is no other option as a 50 seater turboprop replacement for LIAT so they don't have any more cost effective way if they want to improve their o
44 andrefranca : Right Liat has to get new planes and make their business more efficient that's for sure, what I was trying to say with other words is: okay let's get
45 JM017 : Yah, congrats! Never short on heated discourse, but for me these threads are highly informative.
46 A388 : That's what you get when there is no other option in the 50-seat aircraft manufacturers. What new dashes do they need to get, the Q300 is no longer i
47 BWIA 772 : I really am not understanding where you are going with this. LI route structure is dominated by short routes, the majority of which do not require an
48 LimaFoxTango : CAL went the same route, don't recall hearing a big hoopla about that. Not the first time an airline would've switched from one aircraft manufacturer
49 Inbound : I'm still confused about why Bombardier discontinued production of the Q300s. It's such a versatile aircraft. All they needed to do were an updated ca
50 A388 : That's what andrefranca doesn't seem to understand but alright. Good question but I think Bombardier analyzed the world demand for e 50-seat turbopro
51 baje427 : They discontinued it because there was no demand even the ATR42 which seats 50 is a slow seller but it can still be produced as it manufactured on the
52 par13del : Probably also fell in love with the dream of serving the RJ market to their south, the Q400 is supposed to be an alternative to RJ's versus a refinem
53 westindian425 : Yeah...what he said! By the way, congratulations A388 on becoming a new father! You're one step ahead of me, sir! lol
54 Post contains images andrefranca : Yes, indeed, although DAE used to use their ATR on the CUR-SXM route.... I was not aware they've discontinued.... so fingers crossed to the new acfts
55 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Was searching the photo database and noticed these photos of Montserrat and thought I would share them here: One with the Volcano from 2003: View Larg
56 Post contains images A388 : Thanks westindian425, so I'm guessing you're about to become a father too CUR-SXM to my knowledge is well within the range of the ATR42. A388
57 LimaFoxTango : That's 3 out of 21 destination LI serves. Clearly wouldn't make sense to to get a Q400 just for that. MQ operated the ATR's throughout the region for
58 Post contains images andrefranca : Hey one question out of curiosity, were you already abroad when Sufriere hills started its action on your island? if not how was it? I remember some
59 Post contains links AFCDGPTP : Hey guys !I know I do not post often on this thread, but here are some infos about what's going on in the french islands : This summer again, AF 320 i
60 A388 : Great thanks for sharing this information with us AFCDGPTP!!! We need updates from the French Caribbean aviation as well!!! I'm very glad you provide
61 2travel2know2 : That tragic Colombian MD80/DC9 West Caribbean crash in Venezuela some years ago was a charter returning to PTP/FDF. Air Caraïbes dropped PTY and sin
62 Post contains images A388 : Wow, that's a very exotic dream route, nice though!!! A388
63 guyanam : Your posts are much appreciated as we almost never get info on the Frech Caribbean, even though Air Caraibe is as large as Caribbean Airline,s as mea
64 baje427 : Are you saying the Embraer is leaving the fleet I am surprised they never tried FDF-MIA or PTP-MIA I beleive the Embraer has the legs to make the rout
65 Post contains images A388 : Air Caraibes used to operate the route on behalf of Air France, see below photos: The only logical explanation I can think of is that Air France has
66 trintocan : Congrats A388 on becoming a father! That is a major milestone indeed. All the very best to you and yours for the future. Yes, AF have flown the routes
67 Post contains images A388 : Thanks trintocan, I'm very much looking forward to being a father All good points, yes. Demand probably isn't that big as you said. The advantage of
68 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Yes I was still here when it started, only moved to the UK last September being really young then it was quite confusing for me when it started. I re
69 guyanam : So said a rep from the French Antilles at a recent CTO forum in NYC. Earlier this year someone reported that AirC was looking to reduce losses. AF us
70 Post contains links wadadli : Congrats on reaching the 100 thread milestone!!! Keep it up folks! Westjet announced today YYZ-ANU service effecgtive Oct 28th along with 3 other sun
71 GUYAIR707 : Congrats on 100! Congrats to A388 also, I became a father last year September, and for me it is like nothing else. The reason I don't get a chance to
72 TriniA340 : Congratulations and All the best to GUYAIR707 & A388. Being a parent is the most difficult job in the world, but it's also the most rewarding! I'm
73 westindian425 : Okay, make that 3 steps ahead of me. I have to meet the girl first, then get married, then be a father. lol! Remember when LIAT used to run the HS-74
74 andrefranca : Man I swear I though that when I flew LIAT from SLU to SVD hahahah there was a guy CHECKING chickens/cock INN!!! lots of them. I was not concerned ab
75 Post contains images A388 : Hahaha, okay. The sequence is good to start with and I'm sure your day will come my friend Same here, I saw those LIAT HS748's and Twin Otters often
76 par13del : Financing is one thing politics is another, the HS-748 ( God rest their soles) were a hold over from our colonial legacy, they were purchased through
77 baje427 : For those with the knowledge how good is the Dash 8 100 and 300 for Caribbean ops.
78 A388 : What I read here in the forum, the 100 and 300 are indeed well suited to operate into and out of most Caribbean airports. I think members Inbound and
79 AFCDGPTP : ALITALIA B772 & NEOS B763 also fly to PTP from Itlaly for Costa croisieres during winter time I recently posted a thread on the new airline a gro
80 A388 : Thanks for the update AFCDGPTP. I remember that thread about Freedom Air. Have the 2 735's already arrived in PTP? What routes are they planning to s
81 caribbean484 : Congratulation on Fatherhood A388 all the best to your and your family As for the Dash8 debacle, the Q100/300 have done a great job over the last few
82 Post contains images A388 : Thanks Caribbean484 Thanks again Caribbean484, good to read the ATR72-600 is performing well and safing Caribbean Airlines some money. That's why the
83 par13del : I think the biggest issue UP has had with them is that they are not as rugged, they are good airplanes and carry a good load, its just that if the ma
84 GUYAIR707 : Thank you. GUYAIR707
85 guyanam : [quote=westindian425,reply=73] The 748s ran the same routes that the dash runs now except in those days LI didnt have the express routes it has now, l
86 caribbean484 : I have to agree there, the Q300s are great aircrafts, but from what I heard the sub 200nm routes kill the a/c in cycles and maintenance cost. Mainten
87 Post contains images par13del : Yeah, but without the rust / corrosion
88 trintocan : Congratulations Guyair707, it seems as if fatherhood is sweeping our community. Best wishes to you and yours now and always. As Guyanam mentioned, the
89 GUYAIR707 : Thank you very much. GUYAIR707
90 Post contains images A388 : I totally overlooked your post GUYAIR707, my most sincere apologies!!! Thank you for your nice comments!!! I'm also looking forward to being a father
91 Post contains images lucianflyboy : Firstly, congrats on the 100th!!! Secondly, I am so happy for those forum because it keeps me in touch with what is going on in the region. I feel ho
92 A388 : Wow, is demand that high to warrant a 757 or is the route heavily subsidized? A388
93 caribbean484 : Its the latter, the route is heavily subsidized, most of the routes are and AA was dropping it due to lower demand. With OW dropping SLU-SJU and AA r
94 A388 : I thaught so too, that will cost the government millions of dollars if those seats are not filled. Good luck to them, I wish them well of course. A38
95 lucianflyboy : UVF moves a bunch of cargo also and the B737 really didn't cut it at times.
96 Post contains images andrefranca : I wish GOVSLU could promote more this beautiful island! the pitons/beaches are amazing! When is UVF going to have south american flights? I remember
97 A388 : Is that really the reason that this flight is being done? What type of cargo is flown on those AA flights? What is flown by air to UVF in general? A3
98 trintocan : St Lucia is already very well promoted and deservedly so, it is indeed a very beautiful island with great scenery, fabulous beaches, rugged mountains
99 Post contains images lucianflyboy : Not sure about the incoming cargo but out going is quite busy. Fresh fish/seafood, tropical flowers, electronics (there's a huge electronic assembly
100 guyanam : Actually StL is very well promoted in the USA. Almost every time there is any tourism promotion involving the caribbean St Lucia is one of those well
101 Post contains images westindian425 : Back in the day, before the Butch Stewart JM days, people hardly knew about St. Lucia. It started being promoted as a good honeymoon place because it
102 9YCAL : Congrats to us for making 100! Keep it going guys!
103 2travel2know2 : Pretty sure by now, UVF is learning from SXM and NAS how to invite CM to fly to the island.
104 andrefranca : Up north because here "down under" never heard of it, I actually visited the island because my cousin's aunt married a guy from trinidad who has a co
105 Post contains links and images A388 : Hey guys, My first photo taken in BOG is in the database. See it in below link: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Ph
106 GUYAIR707 : No worries, enjoy. GUYAIR707
107 Post contains images GUYAIR707 : EZjet is using this a/c for GEO-YYZ nonstop twice a week. GUYAIR707
108 baje427 : How is the service of EZJet are the fa's locals ?
109 GUYAIR707 : As far as I know it's a wet lease on both a/c. I have never flown them, from what I hear the service is good, it's the delays that causes unhappiness.
110 guyanam : Yes Brazil now has the second largest middle class in the Americas, now ahead of Canada. Yes more Brazilians are traveling, and yes more of these do
111 2travel2know2 : More often that I can remember, the subject BW to GRU has been brought here. Everytime there's some new issue showing up. Fact is, GRU is slot restri
112 Post contains images caribbean484 : Saw this online what you guys think?
113 andrefranca : Pretty, but a Redjet ghost idea.... not goin' to happen by now....
114 817Dreamliiner : Well, I can only guess they are taking Embraers? Not sure if this would be a good move by them. Its not exactly a dash 8 replacement, but lets wait a
115 baje427 : Lets hope its just a model and remains just that LI with jets is $$$$$ the governments in the region cant afford.
116 yellowtail : There is nothing "cultural" about CUN......sorry. It is like a piece of South Florida stuck on the Yucatan
117 guyanam : This opens up an idea. When BW stabilizes they should enter a joint code with CM. That way they can gain from CMs highly developed PTY hub, and feed
118 Post contains links andrefranca : CAL and AJ brands pose confusion By Vernon Khelawan Thursday, July 26 2012 NOTWITSTANDING the fact that a high level delegation of government official
119 Post contains images b757lvr : Happy 100th!! Hey guys another Lucian here checking in Great to hear st.lucia keeping the daily mia-uvf. There was some uncertainty about the subsidy
120 A388 : But still there is nothing cultural about CUN as Yellowtail said. It's just a popular resort destination. A388
121 guyanam : I am sure that you will admit that a Brazilian in Cancun will feel more culturally compatible than in BGI or MBJ, given that Spanish is closer to Por
122 A388 : Cancun is just a big resort destination, we all know it. Brazilians, just like all other tourists going to Cancun go there because they are looking f
123 guyanam : The most important aspect of culture is language. Its not a coincidence that MIA and not ATL attracts many Latin tourists. Its also not a coincidence
124 Post contains images andrefranca : it depends, most of us can't really talk other language than portuguese, so SPANISH speaking countries are EASIER FOR SURE, and these days xenophobia
125 yellowtail : How many flights a day does CM have to CUN vs HAV? I don't deny CUN is popular, cause it is....even I go there.....but it is not cultural in any way.
126 2travel2know2 : CUN thrice daily vs HAV 5 per day? CUN is almost pure leisure traffic, HAV only has a leisure traffic component and that's most likely because CM doe
127 Post contains links caribbean484 : Former Caribbean Airlines CEO Ian Brunton is now CEO of LIAT http://www.caribbeanpressreleases.co...Chief-Executive-Officer/Page1.html
128 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LIAT appoints Captain Ian Arthur Brunton as Chief Executive Officer ST. JOHN’S, Antigua, July 31, 2012 – The Board of Directors of LIAT Airline to
129 guyanam : Oh well CAL lost out. Who will be CALs new CEO, Kamla's auntie, or her nurse? What things for sure and that it will not be any one who has a clue abo
130 andrefranca : WOW? couldn't see that coming!
131 BWIA 772 : Excellent move by LI BoD hopefully Brunton can put LI on a firm footing and help the airline move forward. The next couple of months shall be interes
132 jmbweeboy : Fort-Lauderdale to San Juan, anyone notice the battle going on between Spirit and newer discount entrants Jet Blue and Airtran ! Just booked for $117.
133 yellowtail : Conviasa just bought 20 E190s....so I would suspect some Caribbean routes might be in the works.....
134 andrefranca : Guesses anyone? Mine CCS-AUA VLN-AUA CCS-CUR VLN-CUR CCS-PTY CCS-POS CCS-SXM CCS-PUJ CCS-HAV CCS-SJO Unlikely but we never know: CCS-UVF CCS-BGI CCS-
135 A388 : Again as I said CUN is very popular and the spanish language is a plus for South Americans but this has nothing to do with culture. It's just less of
136 yellowtail : Have known many a far east crew flying to the USA whose english was basically limited to words like runway and left. And I am being generous. The is
137 guyanam : Sorry as far as most people are concerned language is an important part of culture. If one cannot communicate, nor get a sense as to what is going on
138 BW424 : Sorry for not being on for so long. Been very busy of late. DAE's loads are in the high 80's with their daily flight. No wonder they are increasing i
139 turk223 : Man, that would be nice... been years since we had a direct connection to Caracas from B'dos.
140 A388 : As others have said, CUN is all about resorts, resorts and more resorts. There is nothing cultural about that. A388
141 westindian425 : LMBO!!!! I needed that laugh!!! This is amazing news! I am very happy for LIAT.
142 Post contains images A388 : I agree with andrefranca, I also see Conviasa start flights to Curacao. Those Conviasa ERJ190's will be one of the best looking ones around!!! Regardi
143 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : New planes for LIAT – but how? AT a meeting two weeks ago in Barbados it was reported that a unanimous decision was made that LIAT needed to acquire
144 guyanam : why not check out the response by the Brazilian. he agreed with me. Given that we are speaking about Brazilians one would think that his opinion woul
145 trintocan : Yes indeed, Captain Brunton has a wealth of experience in Caribbean aviation and will certainly be a positive driving force for LI. Congrats to him a
146 A388 : Brazilians feel more comfortable where Spanish is spoken, yes. I never denied that. What isn´t true is CUN being cultural as you said. As I have stat
147 baje427 : Just fyi BGI will be closed from midnight due to Tropical storm Ernesto just curious will AA fly out their aircraft tonight or will it stay on the ram
148 817Dreamliiner : LIAT cancelling the follow flights tomorrow due to Tropical storm Ernesto more info below: Tropical Storm Ernesto – Advisory # 1 ISSUED AT 7:30PM
149 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Caribbean Airlines Just put an advisory for affected flights for tomorrow as well, via facebook:
150 Post contains links caribbean484 : I would like to know which type they are going for. Ezjet passengers complain of continued delays "Passengers flying Ezjet Airlines continue to compl
151 817Dreamliiner : Well, at least thats some positive news for CAL, the MAX should be a good choice for their ops to JFK and YYZ to reduce any weight restictions and th
152 GUYAIR707 : Better fuel economy also. I guess at least another 5-6 years or more before these come into service. Good choice IMHO. GUYAIR707
153 A388 : I wonder where Caribbean Airlines will get the money buy or lease these 737MAX aircraft. They couldn't even take all the ATR72's they ordered and we a
154 817Dreamliiner : I actually wondered this as well, while they do have financial problems they can always secure the aircraft by other means like leasing via a leasing
155 caribbean484 : Its more about future fleet planning than anything else and CAL seems more interested in keeping its fleet relatively young. The situation with the A
156 LimaFoxTango : That's good news CAL is finally taking more ATR's. Are they taking them one per month perhaps? Any idea as to when the Dash 8's will be leaving the f
157 caribbean484 : Not sure when, last year the plan was to phase them out one by one beginning on the 3rd ATR delivery, so I believe that is what is happening. It will
158 guyanam : I said for CULTURAL reasons, which was defined to state that language was a major factor. That was not about whether Cancun has or has not a rich ind
159 BE77 : As I recall, BW had new deliveries last year, just day or two before the demise of 9Y-PBM. I recall seeing the flights on flight tracker, direct Boei
160 817Dreamliiner : Thats correct, 9Y-SXM was delivered last year direct from Boeing, I think its still without full livery. Also from what I remember most of the newer
161 BE77 : Speaking of which - it's now been a year (already!)...any rumours about when we might see some official reports?
162 Post contains links caribbean484 : Airport Development Project Madam Speaker, as you and the Honorable Members of this House are aware; the Government has decided to extend the runway a
163 GUYAIR707 : I keep hearing that EZjet is having a hard time, lots of their pax are jumping ship, but let's see, they seem to have someone keeping them afloat. I
164 Post contains images yellowtail : Now see if this occured in Central America we would say that would have Parrot Cartel (TA) written all over it
165 A388 : I know it's about future planning but my worries are about Caribbean Airlines being able to finance these MAX aircraft. We are not talking about the C
166 Post contains images andrefranca : It is about time! when I visited EIS last year I felt it was a "shanty bungalow " about to fall apart.... there are only 2 counters on immigration so
167 guyanam : I question your analysis that the YYZ GEO market is this tiny unprofitable route. That might have nbeen so 10 years ago but hardly now. 1 GEo receive
168 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : According to the link below, it seems 2 of the 4 ATR's up for sale by CAL has found a new home. They are off to Intersky in Germany. http://www.ch-avi
169 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Irfaan Ali (Minister of Tourism (Ag.)) reported that Guyana gets 50,000 pax YYZ-GEO. I would not rely on his words. http://www.ncnguyana.com/ncngy/in
170 Post contains links andrefranca : Source: http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,164220.html
171 Post contains images A388 : So LIAT will chose between the Dash-8-Q400, ATR NextGen and the ERJ or go for secondhand Dash-8's. My gut feeling says that they will go for secondhan
172 guyanam : CTO reports that approx 25k visitors from Canada go to Guyana. Over 90% of these will be VFR visitors, and most of the rest will be on business. Ther
173 par13del : Well maintained hopefully for short cycles similar to what they will encounter in the Caribbean, if not, in short order they will be as high maintena
174 Post contains images A388 : I totally agree with you on this, that's why I said "they will receive well maintained aircraft" Only the big boys in the airline industry (such as S
175 par13del : I think the biggest issue is getting the wrong a/c usually based on politics, the ATR's appear to have held up much better that the Dash-XXX in Carib
176 caribbean484 : The route is low yielding, much lower than POS, because, POS can command extremely high fares due to the financial sector in POS. EZjet flights from
177 caribbean484 : Looks like you talked to soon and was confirmed as they will now run 3w from mid October. During the peak winter they will run it 4w and from interna
178 A388 : I was wondering, Caribbean Airlines now has the following Dash-8 fleet: c/n Aircraft Type Reg Airline Delivered Prev. Reg 487 DHC-8-314Q Dash 8 9Y-WIT
179 Post contains images A388 : I see Caribbean Airlines will be taking 5 ATR72's which is a one-on-one replacement. Just ignore my post 178 as it is clear now A388
180 guyanam : . Rather than argue with you let us go to the CAL website. . CAL is offering base fare of CAD 478 for travel in September YYZ POS. ON THE SAME DAY it
181 caribbean484 : You can say what ever you want, as far as I am concerned the management of CAL know a lot more that you in the markets they service. This discussion
182 guyanam : Are you claiming that the website is wrong? I went to CALs website and got it from there out on Sept 9th and returning the following week.. This is t
183 Post contains links and images BE77 : I find both of these numbers to be at odds with my own (frequent) travel on these routes. The 25k per year to GEO seems to be a really small number -
184 BWIA 772 : The article is poorly researched and the author does not have a real grasp of the issue at hand and the steps that LI has gone through to reach this
185 A388 : This I found strange as well. As you said, the ATR42-600 hasn't been sold out in any way, not even the ATR72-600 production line so there is room for
186 guyanam : The 25k YYZ GEo refers to people who dont reside in Guyana visiting from Canada.This is provided by the caribbean Tourism Org as furnished by the Gov
187 817Dreamliiner : Around 10? More like 15+ years. Im not sure how many younger dash 8-300s are still available. Actually its not really wrong. I remember seeing a 100
188 guyanam : Well if LIAT can finance 15 new planes....but apparently they cant. The question is who will guarantee the financing that will be needed? I assume th
189 LimaFoxTango : LI only has one remaining -100 in the fleet, that being -LDQ, which is only used for cargo runs. The other two -100's, LEF & LDU were sold a few
190 BE77 : Makes sense - and indicates that the total YYZ-GEO is quite a bit larger, which is what you (and I) believe. I am not sure how BW and C484 are calcul
191 guyanam : If they get ATRs then they will have the expense of two different fleets, however at least the ATR offers the mix of seat configurations that LI need
192 bw415 : I have not posted here in what feels like and probably is years.. not because I don't read or follow daily and religiously but ever since the whole th
193 andrefranca : Due to extremely high prices?
194 A388 : I totally agree with you on this, at some point it just isn't worth discussing with guyanam and Caribbean484 did the right thing to just not reply an
195 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Well I am glad to hear LI is not on its death bed. I think what will happen is that the initial 7 will be strict dash 8 replacements the later order
196 bjorn14 : Well the new -600s have more powerful engines (PW127M) and all glass cockpits. Another thought is that the Chinese are desperate to sell their new MA
197 Post contains links caribbean484 : I refuse to comment any further as I noted yesterday, Nobody tells me when to respond to their comment or baits me into a stupid argument. I presente
198 817Dreamliiner : Interesting, I guess there's some demand for it on these routes. I wonder if theyll add ANU or other Caribbean destinations to that list.
199 caribbean484 : Hopefully but the reason for this is because of the high traffic on all these points, BGI as we know is known as Little England and the demand for bu
200 GUYAIR707 : Great news. I just hope the prices remain low. I did JFK-GEO-JFK a few times on 526/527 and I don't miss the stop over in POS, only that I don't get
201 trintocan : True on all points, UVF does get some premium holiday traffic too so First works from there as well. As far as I know at present BA use the 4-class 7
202 817Dreamliiner : Never knew that they sent the 4 class 777s to the Caribbean at all. I had the impression that all the LGW based 777's were 3 class. Good to know, tha
203 guyanam : So continue to persist with your inaccurate information that more passengers fly YYZ to GND than to GEO. Like you said "whio vex loss" and I am neith
204 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Yep, it's better that way, Omi is a very good airline and good service, but CAL should now maintain their own brand service on the route. With the lo
205 N312RM : Didn't Dominica government invest some EC$8m in LI a few months ago? All the talk about LI going out of business is, in my opinion, a lot of baloney.
206 GUYAIR707 : Yeah CAL is much better, I flew OAI in June and the service wasn't too bad. In July there was a CAL FA onboard and the service was totally different.
207 Post contains images andrefranca : Ouch too bad! do you know how GCM-LCE is doing? I have a flight with KX on this leg!
208 A388 : They are indeed a very good source for airline fleet information. I also use them often to find aircraft registration details. A388
209 guyanam : LI isnt going any where but the small amount that DOM is putting in doesnt address the significant losses that they had this year. Maybe with Redjet
210 Post contains images GUYAIR707 : Can't figure out why 526/527 flies to POS and not just directly back to JFK. Surely BW can negotiate with the GOG to have that flight be JFK-GEO-JFK.
211 2travel2know2 : I could bet that if the route was flown by CM another would be the performance. How much has CM been promoting its code-share on KX GCM-PTY? Were the
212 yellowtail : I suspect that it needs more frequency to appeal to business pax....but I also suspect KX will stick this one out. It does "ok"....and it is not goin
213 andrefranca : The GCM-LCE-BZE-GCM would make sense!
214 Post contains links andrefranca : Source: http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,164536.html
215 guyanam : I think that it is because CAL isnt a designatdd flag carrier, but falls under a "community of interest" (i.e. is given certain route rights because
216 Post contains links and images voodoo : I see the Trinidad gold medallist Keshorn Walcott is getting a CAL plane named after him. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/166012876.html I don't s
217 westindian425 : That is actually not a bad idea! I think that would be a nice gesture for the people of Jamaica and Grenada!
218 GUYAIR707 : On the two occasions I used 526/527 it was at least 90% full and about 10-15 pax remained onboard to continue to POS. On the return it was similar. Y
219 caribbean484 : I am not sure if they actually made the investment as of yet. I believe that St Lucia Government is also planning to invest in LIAT I strongly believ
220 Post contains links and images LimaFoxTango : Copy cats Antigua St. John's - Regional carrier LIAT could name one of its aircraft after Grenadian Kirani James, the OECS' first gold medalist at th
221 2travel2know2 : Code-share w/CM isn't enough if CM can't sell to/from GCM on its website. If GCM is interested to keep a link with CM hub, the island government shou
222 GUYAIR707 : That is some savings. Any clue on the dep and arr times when CAL's 763's come onboard? That is good news. How do you see CAL's 763's doing in terms o
223 guyanam : Not surprised that few remain to POS as there is a 90 minute stop in GEO so its a very long trip for them. The flight might be useful to deal with ex
224 GUYAIR707 : An associate said he used the 527/526 flight JFK-POS-JFK strictly because he got a good fare. He was willing to deal with the waiting time. The woman
225 guyanam : Well we had a lengthy discussion on a YYZ GEO nonstop. I guess that will happen depending on whether there are route rights, and whether BW perceives
226 A388 : Guys, is there an update on LIAT's aircraft replacement program? Which aircraft type will be selected, when is the first aircraft to be delivered and
227 Post contains images caribbean484 : No nothing as yet, I believe they are going to wait until the Omni Contract ends in September to make the roster available. I honestly believe like G
228 GUYAIR707 : Sorry to flog this to death, but your suspicion is 424/425 with the 738? Would that a/c be able to do that route comfortably, in your opinion? If I r
229 guyanam : No I think he means on certain days the 425 will operate JFK GEO via POS and on others the 767 will fly to POS via GEO. This way that flight will be
230 yellowtail : Proof please? That is simply not true...it is not a straight line cause and effect....assuming enough traffic level is there to support both carriers
231 Post contains links andrefranca : "What about that crash report? By Vernon Khelawan Thursday, August 16 2012 AFTER more than a year, regional aviation observers are questioning the non
232 GUYAIR707 : My prejudices aside, you believe people view DL as the premium carrier? I am surprised that EZjet is still flying and expanding, they must be subsidi
233 GUYAIR707 : I read this article and had to laugh. This guy might as well just say the GCAA is incompetent rather than "beating around the bushes". He should have
234 guyanam : Ezjet has entered the market but BW seems to be doing OK. Both c484 and guyair confirm decent loads. Delta charging USD 540 r/t in mid Sept when they
235 A388 : I started a separate thread abouth this as it has been discussed several times in the past, KL will start A330 flights to the Caribbean starting this
236 Post contains links BW424 : New forum up. Sorry for the lack of input over the past few weeks. Been extremely busy! Olympic Glory - Caribbean Aviation 101* (by BW424 Aug 17 2012
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