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OAG Changes 7/20/2012: B6/DL/UA/WN  
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9131 times:

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WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one

direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5

days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the

future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no

previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

AA JFK-GRU NOV 1.5>2 DEC 1.0>2 JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>2 MAR 1.0>2
AA MIA-GIG DEC 1.4>1.8 JAN 1.5>2 FEB 1.4>2 MAR 1.4>2
*AA MIA-REC NOV 0>0.4 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7 MAR 0>0.7
AA MIA-SSA NOV 1.0>0.9 DEC 1.0>0.7 JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.7 MAR 1.0>0.7

AB ORD-BER MAR 0>0.1

AI JFK-DEL AUG 1.0>0
AI ORD-DEL AUG 1.0>0

AM LAS-MEX NOV 3>1.9
*AM LAX-BJX AUG 0.5>0.4 SEP 0.5>0 OCT 0.5>0
AM LAX-GDL AUG 2>1.6 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.9

AZ MIA-MXP SEP 0.5>0.3

B6 BOS-AUA NOV 0.9>1.1 DEC 1.0>1.2
B6 BOS-CUN DEC 1.1>0.8
B6 BOS-DCA DEC 10>9
B6 BOS-JAX NOV 1.9>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0
B6 BOS-PUJ JAN 0.3>0.5
B6 BOS-STI DEC 0.9>0.8
B6 FLL-NAS JAN 4>3
B6 FLL-SDQ NOV 0.8>1.0 DEC 0.8>0.9
B6 IAD-OAK NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7
*B6 JFK-AZS NOV 0>0.2 DEC 0>0.3 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.1
B6 JFK-BDA DEC 1.0>0.9
B6 JFK-CUN NOV 1.6>2 DEC 3>1.6 JAN 3>2
B6 JFK-NAS NOV 1.9>3
B6 JFK-PHX NOV 1.8>0.9 DEC 1.8>1.0
B6 JFK-SDQ NOV 5>4
B6 JFK-SXM DEC 1.2>1.4
B6 JFK-UVF DEC 0.7>0.9
B6 LGB-SMF NOV 3>1.9 DEC 3>1.9
B6 MCO-CUN NOV 1.4>1.6
B6 SJU-SDQ OCT 5>4 NOV 6>4 DEC 6>5

BW FLL-POS OCT 1.0>0.8 NOV 1.0>0.9

DL ATL-CHA MAR 10>9
DL ATL-EVV SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4 MAR 5>4
DL ATL-FWA SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
DL ATL-GSO OCT 9>8 NOV 9>8
DL ATL-LFT JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
DL ATL-MGM NOV 9>8
DL ATL-NAS FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4
DL ATL-PNS NOV 7>8 DEC 7>8 JAN 7>8 FEB 7>8
DL ATL-PWM MAR 2.0>1.0
DL ATL-ROA NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
DL ATL-SBN SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 MAR 4>3
DL ATL-SHV JAN 6>5 FEB 6>5
DL ATL-SXM NOV 0.4>0.3
DL ATL-TYS NOV 10>9
DL ATL-VPS JAN 10>8
*DL BDL-RDU AUG 1.8>0 SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.8>0 FEB 0.8>0 MAR 1.0>0
DL BOS-RDU NOV 7>5 DEC 6>4 JAN 7>5 FEB 7>5 MAR 7>5
*DL CMH-RDU AUG 1.7>1.2 SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.8 NOV 0.9>0.1 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.8>0 FEB 0.9>0
DL CVG-SEA JAN 0.1>0.0
DL DTW-CMH OCT 7>8 NOV 7>8 DEC 5>7 JAN 6>7 FEB 6>7 MAR 7>8
DL DTW-MBS MAR 5>6
DL DTW-MKE OCT 6>7 NOV 6>7 DEC 6>7 JAN 6>7 FEB 6>7 MAR 7>8
DL DTW-ORD MAR 7>8
DL DTW-PVD JAN 5>4
DL DTW-SRQ JAN 0.2>0.1
DL DTW-YQB AUG 1.9>1.4 JAN 1.2>1.0
*DL HIB-INL SEP 0>1.5 OCT 0>1.7 NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7
DL IAH-MSP NOV 4>5 DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 FEB 4>5 MAR 4>5
*DL INL-MSP SEP 1.8>0.3 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.8>0 DEC 1.9>0 JAN 1.8>0 FEB 1.7>0 MAR 2>0
DL JAC-MSP JAN 0.2>0.1
*DL LAX-CMH JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-IND JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-RDU JAN 0.1>0.0
DL LGA-OMA MAR 0>0.9
DL LGA-PWM NOV 3>4 MAR 3>4
*DL LWB-ROA AUG 1.7>0.0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 2>0 MAR 2>0
*DL MEM-DAL SEP 1.7>0.2 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.4>0 JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0 MAR 1.7>0
DL MEM-SHV DEC 1.1>0.7 JAN 1.5>0.8 FEB 1.7>0.9
DL MIA-DTW MAR 2>3
DL MIA-LAX SEP 0.8>0.6
DL MLI-MSP NOV 3>1.9
DL MSP-PVD JAN 0.2>0.1
DL MSP-SYR JAN 0.2>0.1

F9 DEN-COS SEP 4>5
F9 DEN-ICT NOV 1.9>0.9 DEC 1.8>0
F9 DEN-TUS DEC 1.0>0

FP GUM-ROP AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.4 OCT 2>1.4 NOV 2>1.4 DEC 2>1.4 JAN 2>1.5 FEB 2>1.4 MAR 2>1.4
FP ROP-SPN AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.4 OCT 2>1.4 NOV 2>1.4 DEC 2>1.4 JAN 2>1.5 FEB 2>1.4 MAR 2>1.4

IB BOS-MAD NOV 0.9>0.4 DEC 0.8>0.5 JAN 0.9>0.4 FEB 0.9>0.4 MAR 0.8>0.4

LH LAX-MUC NOV 0.8>0.7 DEC 0.6>0.5 JAN 0.7>0.6 FEB 0.6>0.5

MU HNL-PVG JAN 0.3>0.4 FEB 0.3>0.4 MAR 0.3>0.4

Attack of SY?
**NK AZA-ORD NOV 0>0.7 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
**NK BOS-RSW NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*NK DFW-MSY FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
**NK FLL-MSP NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
**NK MSP-RSW NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*NK ORD-TPA NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

OZ SPN-ICN AUG 2>3
OZ SPN-NRT AUG 0>0.4

PK JFK-LHE NOV 0.4>0.3 DEC 0.4>0.3 JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.4>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3

TA MIA-TGU AUG 1.0>0.8

TS MCO-YUL JAN 0.4>0.5 FEB 0.6>0.7 MAR 0.7>0.9

*UA DEN-ISN NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3
UA EYW-FLL SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4
UA EYW-TPA SEP 7>5 OCT 6>5
UA FLL-BIM AUG 2>1.6 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.3
UA FLL-ELH AUG 2>1.6 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.3
UA FLL-GGT SEP 1.3>1.0 OCT 1.3>1.1
UA FLL-GHB AUG 1.1>0.7 SEP 1.2>0 OCT 1.1>0.3
UA FLL-MHH SEP 3>1.0 OCT 3>1.6
UA FLL-TCB SEP 1.3>1.0 OCT 1.3>1.1
UA FLL-TLH SEP 1.5>3 OCT 1.6>3
UA FLL-TPA AUG 1.0>1.8 SEP 1.0>3 OCT 1.0>3
Hey, they cut something that isn't from IAH.  
**UA IAD-DME AUG 1.0>0.9 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 0.7>0
*UA IAD-SAL DEC 0>0.4 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
UA IAH-BHM OCT 6>5
UA IAH-CLL SEP 5>4
UA IAH-MCI SEP 8>7
UA IAH-MKE SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
UA IAH-OMA SEP 5>4
UA IAH-SDF OCT 4>3
UA LAX-DFW SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
UA LAX-PHX SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
*UA LAX-YLW DEC 0>0.4 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*UA MCO-MHH AUG 1.0>0.6 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0.3
*UA ORD-ANC DEC 0>0.4
UA ORD-GRR OCT 6>5
*UA ORD-JAN NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*UA ORD-NAS FEB 0>0.1 MAR 0>0.2
*UA ORD-YQT FEB 0>0.5 MAR 0>1.0
UA PBI-MHH AUG 1.3>0.8 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.3>0.4
UA SFO-NRT OCT 2>1.8 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0 MAR 2>1.1

US PHX-HNL SEP 1.8>1.7
US PHX-OGG SEP 1.2>1.0

VS MCO-MAN NOV 1.3>1.4

WP BIL-HLN AUG 1.5>0.7 SEP 1.3>0.7 OCT 1.5>0.7 NOV 1.5>0.7 DEC 1.4>0.7 JAN 1.5>0.7 FEB 1.4>0.7 MAR 1.4>0.7
WP BIL-LWT AUG 1.7>3

ZK DEN-ISN NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3 MAR 4>3
*ZK ISN-TVF NOV 2>0.2 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 2>0 MAR 2>0

Following is a comparison of the COMBINED FL/WN schedule versus the prior year
WN ABE-MCO NOV 1.8>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0
WN ABQ-ELP JAN 1.2>0.3
WN ABQ-LAX NOV 4>3
WN ABQ-LBB NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN ABQ-MAF NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN ABQ-MCO NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN ABQ-PHX NOV 8>7 DEC 8>7
WN ABQ-SEA NOV 2.0>1.1 DEC 2.0>1.1
WN ABQ-STL JAN 1.0>0.2
WN ALB-LAS JAN 1.0>0.2
WN ATL-AUA NOV 0.3>1.0 DEC 0.6>1.0 JAN 1.0>0.6
WN ATL-AUS NOV 0>1.9 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN ATL-BOS DEC 5>4 JAN 5>3
WN ATL-BUF DEC 3>2
WN ATL-BWI NOV 7>10 DEC 7>9 JAN 7>9
WN ATL-CUN NOV 2.0>1.7 DEC 3>1.7
WN ATL-DEN NOV 3>5 DEC 3>5 JAN 3>4
WN ATL-FNT DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
WN ATL-HOU NOV 6>9 DEC 5>9 JAN 6>9
WN ATL-HPN NOV 3>0 DEC 1.8>0 JAN 1.9>0
WN ATL-LAS NOV 4>5 DEC 3>5 JAN 3>5
WN ATL-LGA NOV 9>8 DEC 9>8 JAN 9>8
WN ATL-MCO DEC 9>10
WN ATL-MDW NOV 7>10 DEC 7>10 JAN 7>10
WN ATL-NAS NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.9 JAN 1.0>0.7
WN ATL-ORF NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3
WN ATL-PBI DEC 3>2
WN ATL-PHL NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4
WN ATL-PHX NOV 1.7>3 DEC 1.9>3
WN ATL-PIT JAN 4>3
WN ATL-PUJ NOV 1.0>1.6 DEC 1.2>1.6 JAN 1.0>1.5
WN ATL-RDU JAN 4>3
WN ATL-SAT JAN 3>4
WN ATL-SDF NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3
WN ATL-SFO DEC 2.0>3 JAN 1.4>3
WN ATL-SRQ NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0
WN ATL-TPA DEC 8>7 JAN 8>7
WN AUS-CUN NOV 0>0.5 DEC 0>0.6 JAN 0>0.4
WN AUS-DCA NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN AUS-MCO NOV 1.0>1.7 DEC 1.0>1.7
WN BDL-BWI DEC 8>7
WN BDL-LAS NOV 1.0>0.1 DEC 1.0>0
WN BDL-RSW NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN BHM-BNA NOV 1.9>0.2 DEC 1.9>0 JAN 2.0>0
WN BHM-PHX NOV 0.4>0.1
WN BKG-BWI NOV 0.1>0.0
WN BKG-HOU DEC 0.6>0.1
WN BKG-MDW DEC 0.5>0.1
WN BNA-BOS NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN BNA-LGA JAN 0>1.7
WN BNA-MSY JAN 3>4
WN BOS-BWI NOV 12>11 JAN 13>11
WN BOS-MCO JAN 1.7>1.0
WN BOS-MDW DEC 5>4
WN BOS-PHX NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN BOS-RSW NOV 1.5>0.9 DEC 1.4>1.0 JAN 1.7>1.0
WN BUF-TPA JAN 1.9>1.2
WN BUR-LAS JAN 11>10
WN BWI-AUA NOV 0>0.3 DEC 0.2>0.4 JAN 0.3>0.6
WN BWI-CLT NOV 1.9>3 DEC 1.8>3
WN BWI-CUN NOV 1.1>1.7 DEC 1.4>1.9 JAN 1.2>2
WN BWI-DEN JAN 4>3
WN BWI-ECP NOV 1.9>1.2 DEC 1.9>1.1 JAN 2.0>1.0
WN BWI-FLL NOV 7>10 DEC 7>10 JAN 7>11
WN BWI-HSV NOV 2.0>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0
WN BWI-LGA JAN 3>0.5
WN BWI-

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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9165 times:

WN BWI-MBJ NOV 1.2>1.6 DEC 1.3>1.6 JAN 1.3>1.5
WN BWI-MCO NOV 11>12 DEC 10>12
WN BWI-MKE NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>3
WN BWI-MSY NOV 4>3
WN BWI-NAS NOV 0.6>1.0 DEC 0.8>1.0
WN BWI-PHX NOV 3>2 JAN 3>2
WN BWI-PIT NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4
WN BWI-PWM DEC 1.8>3
WN BWI-RDU JAN 6>5
WN BWI-ROC DEC 2>3
WN BWI-SJU NOV 1.9>1.7 DEC 1.5>1.7 JAN 2>1.7
WN BWI-SRQ DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.8>0
WN BWI-TPA NOV 8>9 DEC 8>9
WN CAK-DEN NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN CAK-LGA NOV 3>2 DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
WN CAK-MDW NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>1.9
WN CAK-MKE NOV 1.8>0 DEC 1.8>0 JAN 1.9>0
WN CAK-RSW JAN 0.8>2
WN CHS-MDW JAN 2>1.2
WN CLE-LAS NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN CLT-MCO DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.8>0
WN CMH-LAS JAN 2>1.2
WN CMH-TPA JAN 1.2>2
WN DAL-HOU DEC 23>22
WN DAL-HRL NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN DAL-LBB JAN 6>5
WN DAL-LIT NOV 6>5 DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5
WN DAL-MSY DEC 6>7 JAN 7>8
WN DAL-SAT NOV 13>12 DEC 13>11
WN DAY-DEN NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN DEN-CUN NOV 0>0.3 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>1.0
WN DEN-EWR DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
WN DEN-LAX JAN 7>6
WN DEN-LGA NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2
WN DEN-MDW DEC 9>8
WN DEN-PDX NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4
WN DEN-PHL JAN 3>2.0
WN DEN-PVD NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0
WN DEN-SAN JAN 5>4
WN DEN-SDF NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN DSM-MDW NOV 0>1.9 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>2.0
WN DSM-MKE NOV 2.0>0 DEC 2.0>0 JAN 2>0
WN DTW-LAS NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN ECP-MCO NOV 1.9>1.1 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 2>0.2
WN ELP-PHX NOV 6>5 DEC 6>5
WN EWR-HOU NOV 1.9>3 DEC 1.8>3 JAN 1.9>3
WN FLL-JAX NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN FLL-MCO DEC 4>3 JAN 4>0.5
WN FLL-MHT NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0
WN FLL-MKE JAN 1.5>1.0
WN FLL-MSY JAN 1.8>3
WN FLL-PHX NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0.7
WN FLL-PIT JAN 1.6>1.1
WN FLL-SJU NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>2
WN FLL-TPA NOV 7>5 DEC 7>5 JAN 7>5
WN FNT-MCO JAN 1.0>0.7
WN FNT-RSW DEC 0.8>0.6
WN FNT-TPA JAN 0.8>0.5
WN GEG-PDX JAN 1.9>0.3
WN GRR-RSW DEC 0.8>0.6 JAN 0.8>0.5
WN GRR-TPA NOV 0.6>0.3 DEC 0.8>0.2 JAN 0.8>0.4
WN HOU-HRL NOV 6>4 DEC 6>4 JAN 5>4
WN HOU-IND NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN HOU-JAX NOV 1.0>1.9 DEC 1.0>1.9
WN HOU-MAF NOV 1.7>3 JAN 1.7>3
WN HOU-MCI NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN HOU-RDU NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN HOU-SAT JAN 5>6
WN HOU-SNA NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN HPN-MCO NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 0.8>0
WN HPN-PBI NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.8>0 JAN 1.8>0
WN HRL-SAT NOV 1.7>1.1 DEC 1.7>1.0 JAN 1.7>1.0
WN HSV-MCO NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN IAD-MDW NOV 6>5 DEC 6>5
WN IND-MDW NOV 4>0.3 DEC 3>0 JAN 3>0
WN ISP-TPA JAN 1.9>1.3
WN JAN-MDW NOV 1.8>1.0 DEC 1.8>1.0
WN JAX-LAS JAN 1.0>0.2
WN JAX-ORF NOV 1.7>1.1 DEC 1.7>1.1 JAN 1.7>1.0
WN JAX-TPA NOV 3>0 DEC 2.0>0 JAN 2.0>0
WN LAS-MAF NOV 1.0>1.8 DEC 1.0>1.8
WN LAS-MCO JAN 2>1.2
WN LAS-MHT NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0
WN LAS-MKE NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>3
WN LAS-ONT NOV 7>6 DEC 7>6
WN LAS-PHX DEC 13>12
WN LAS-PIT JAN 2>1.2
WN LAS-PVD JAN 0.9>0.2
WN LAS-SJC JAN 8>9
WN LAS-SNA NOV 7>8 DEC 7>8 JAN 7>8
WN LAS-TPA DEC 1.4>1.0
WN LAX-MKE NOV 2.0>1.2 DEC 2>1.1 JAN 2>1.0
WN LAX-OAK NOV 13>12 DEC 13>12
WN LAX-PHX NOV 10>9 DEC 10>9
WN LAX-SMF NOV 8>7 DEC 8>7
WN LAX-TUS JAN 5>4
WN LEX-MCO NOV 0.7>0 DEC 0.8>0
WN LGA-STL NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2
WN LIT-STL JAN 1.8>1.1
WN MCI-MSY NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN MCI-SAN NOV 1.8>1.1 DEC 1.8>1.1 JAN 1.7>1.0
WN MCI-TPA NOV 1.7>1.1 DEC 1.8>1.1
WN MCO-MBJ NOV 0.9>0.6 DEC 1.0>0.8
WN MCO-MDT NOV 1.8>0 DEC 1.5>0 JAN 2>0
WN MCO-MDW NOV 8>9
WN MCO-MKE NOV 5>4 JAN 5>4
WN MCO-PHL NOV 8>6 DEC 8>7 JAN 8>6
WN MCO-PIT DEC 5>6
WN MCO-PVD JAN 5>4
WN MCO-RSW NOV 4>0.4 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0
WN MCO-SJU DEC 3>4
WN MDW-CUN NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN MDW-MHT NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN MDW-MSP JAN 8>7
WN MDW-MSY DEC 1.2>1.9
WN MDW-OAK NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN MDW-OKC NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.7
WN MDW-PHX NOV 7>6 DEC 7>6
WN MDW-SAN NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN MDW-SRQ NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.8>0 JAN 2>0
WN MDW-TUS JAN 1.7>1.0
WN MKE-MSP NOV 3>5 DEC 3>5
WN MKE-MSY NOV 0.9>0 DEC 1.0>0
WN MKE-PHX NOV 1.9>3 DEC 2>3
WN MKE-RSW NOV 1.6>3 DEC 2.0>3
WN MKE-SFO NOV 1.4>1.0
WN MKE-SRQ DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN MKE-TPA NOV 3>1.9 DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
WN OAK-ONT NOV 8>7 DEC 8>7 JAN 8>7
WN OAK-PDX JAN 6>5
WN OAK-SNA NOV 7>8 DEC 7>8 JAN 7>8
WN ONT-PHX NOV 7>6 DEC 7>6
WN ONT-RNO JAN 0>0.8
WN PBI-TPA NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>0.5
WN PHL-RDU NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN PHL-TPA JAN 3>1.9
WN PHX-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2
WN PHX-SLC JAN 7>6
WN PHX-SNA NOV 8>7 DEC 8>7 JAN 8>7
WN PIT-RSW DEC 1.8>1.1
WN RNO-SLC JAN 1.0>0.2
WN RSW-STL JAN 1.1>1.9
WN SAN-STL NOV 1.0>0.2 DEC 1.0>0.3 JAN 1.0>0.0
WN SAT-CUN NOV 0>0.5 DEC 0>0.6 JAN 0>0.5
WN SAT-MEX NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN SAT-STL NOV 0>1.8 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.7
WN SFO-SNA NOV 6>7 DEC 6>7 JAN 6>7
WN SJU-TPA JAN 1.8>1.1
WN SMF-SNA NOV 6>7 JAN 6>7
WN SNA-MEX NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN SNA-SJD NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
Finally pulling back on capacity
*WN TPA-SJU NOV 1.8>1.6 DEC 2>1.7 JAN 1.8>1.1


User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2264 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9060 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL BDL-RDU
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL CMH-RDU
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-CMH
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-IND
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-RDU

Looks like DL is cancelling several of the more marginal "Delta Dartboard" routes.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MKE-MSP NOV 3>5 DEC 3>5

This is a little bit of a surprise. I was afraid WN would drop this route, but I'm glad they are still committed to it!



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User currently offlinegreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8979 times:

Quote:
WN CLE-LAS NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0

This is surprising, no? Isn't LAS one of the top 10 cities for CLE in terms of O&D?


User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8836 times:
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The 6 more this week makes it 49 daily flights cut from IAH so far this month. (for UA)

[Edited 2012-07-17 07:16:55]

User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 4):

The 6 more this week makes it 49 daily flights cut from IAH so far this month. (for UA)

That's what happens when you go from having 2.5 (IAH, CLE, EWR) hubs to having 7.5 (IAH, CLE, EWR, LAX, DEN, IAD, ORD, SFO). IAH is no longer the most western hub nor most centralized hub for the combined UA/CO.



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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8614 times:
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

AI JFK-DEL AUG 1.0>0
AI ORD-DEL AUG 1.0>0

Is this a glitch or a monthly reduction due to seasonal factors? Cutting both ORD and JFK seems pretty significant.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8551 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
Looks like DL is cancelling several of the more marginal "Delta Dartboard" routes.

Well, I give them credit for trying non-hub stuff, but I think with the CRJs going away we will see a lot more of these routes disappear. The LAX stuff is more perplexing with fuel softening.

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MKE-MSP NOV 3>5 DEC 3>5

This is a little bit of a surprise. I was afraid WN would drop this route, but I'm glad they are still committed to it!

I hadn't noted that increase either. DL must love it. DL must also love the new MCI flights. :p ...and NK's bunch of new flights against DL.

Quoting greenair727 (Reply 3):
Quote:
WN CLE-LAS NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0

This is surprising, no? Isn't LAS one of the top 10 cities for CLE in terms of O&D?

I suspect they will move it to CAK. I think they will put the business routes at CLE and the leisure at CAK. Just my theory.

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 4):
The 6 more this week makes it 49 daily flights cut from IAH so far this month. (for UA)

I hope those Houston residents have gotten the message to do as they are told. :p

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 6):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

AI JFK-DEL AUG 1.0>0
AI ORD-DEL AUG 1.0>0

Is this a glitch or a monthly reduction due to seasonal factors? Cutting both ORD and JFK seems pretty significant.

A glitch I suspect.


User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8490 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Well, I give them credit for trying non-hub stuff, but I think with the CRJs going away we will see a lot more of these routes disappear. The LAX stuff is more perplexing with fuel softening.

I believe the LAX flights were going to go back into a seasonal suspension sometime in January. They operate in the summer and then come back for the holiday season in late November and December. It looks like they just cut that season by a week.


User currently offlineerj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6789 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8411 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL BDL-RDU AUG 1.8>0 SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.8>0 FEB 0.8>0 MAR 1.0>0
DL BOS-RDU NOV 7>5 DEC 6>4 JAN 7>5 FEB 7>5 MAR 7>5
*DL CMH-RDU AUG 1.7>1.2 SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.8 NOV 0.9>0.1 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.8>0 FEB 0.9>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-RDU JAN 0.1>0.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-RDU JAN 4>3
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN BWI-RDU JAN 6>5
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN PHL-RDU NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN PHX-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2

Wow! What a hit to RDU.. it seems to be get getting it from all over the map.. easy come, easy go.. sad still the same..



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8354 times:

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Well, I give them credit for trying non-hub stuff, but I think with the CRJs going away we will see a lot more of these routes disappear. The LAX stuff is more perplexing with fuel softening.

I believe the LAX flights were going to go back into a seasonal suspension sometime in January. They operate in the summer and then come back for the holiday season in late November and December. It looks like they just cut that season by a week.

Now that Mexico has a new govt, I wonder if we will see CUN get a lot of DL service back? The new govt plans to downplay the drug war.


User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1213 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8321 times:
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Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
The LAX stuff is more perplexing with fuel softening.

I think they are actually now forecasting fuel bumping back up a bit after the brief lull in May and June. Brent today is back up over 103/barrel!

I think we will be seeing more route adjustments, unfortunately. Richard Anderson and team are being true to his pledge not to give back during the winter months profits that accrue during the busy season.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8325 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-BOS DEC 5>4 JAN 5>3
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN BOS-BWI NOV 12>11 JAN 13>11
WN BOS-MCO JAN 1.7>1.0
WN BOS-MDW DEC 5>4
WN BOS-PHX NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0
WN BOS-RSW NOV 1.5>0.9 DEC 1.4>1.0 JAN 1.7>1.0

BOS keeps getting hacked. Down to just 3 RTs on ATL-BOS??? Wow...

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN FNT-MCO JAN 1.0>0.7
WN FNT-RSW DEC 0.8>0.6
WN FNT-TPA JAN 0.8>0.5
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-FNT DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2

FNT is also just hanging on and WN just announced RSW from their other area airport. I wonder how much longer FNT will survive? It looks to be on life support. I don't see FNT-BWI or FNT-MDW saving it.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8288 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA IAH-BHM OCT 6>5
UA IAH-CLL SEP 5>4
UA IAH-MCI SEP 8>7
UA IAH-MKE SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
UA IAH-OMA SEP 5>4
UA IAH-SDF OCT 4>3
Quoting kngkyle (Reply 4):
The 6 more this week makes it 49 daily flights cut from IAH so far this month. (for UA)

Smh

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 5):
That's what happens when you go from having 2.5 (IAH, CLE, EWR) hubs to having 7.5 (IAH, CLE, EWR, LAX, DEN, IAD, ORD, SFO). IAH is no longer the most western hub nor most centralized hub for the combined UA/CO.

Yep

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
I hope those Houston residents have gotten the message to do as they are told. :p

LOL...or...

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN HOU-HRL NOV 6>4 DEC 6>4 JAN 5>4
WN HOU-IND NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN HOU-JAX NOV 1.0>1.9 DEC 1.0>1.9
WN HOU-MAF NOV 1.7>3 JAN 1.7>3
WN HOU-MCI NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0>1.9
WN HOU-RDU NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
WN HOU-SAT JAN 5>6
WN HOU-SNA NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-HOU NOV 6>9 DEC 5>9 JAN 6>9

They'll fly WN...WN is steady adding at HOU while UA is decreasing.



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User currently offlineflyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2293 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8276 times:

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 8):
I believe the LAX flights were going to go back into a seasonal suspension sometime in January. They operate in the summer and then come back for the holiday season in late November and December. It looks like they just cut that season by a week.

That does seem to be the case. Here's hoping that they do indeed start back again in early '13.

Quoting erj170 (Reply 9):
Wow! What a hit to RDU.. it seems to be get getting it from all over the map.. easy come, easy go.. sad still the same..

The feeling is mutual in CMH. It's a shame that no one can make these mid-sized routes work. I wonder how much longer IND-RDU has until it too is cut. I was hoping Delta would be the one to achieve success on routes like RDU-IND/CMH/BDL and BDL-IND/CMH.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1979 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8198 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MDW-OKC NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.7

Sweet...more capacity out of OKC...that's an unusual change.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8074 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-CMH JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-IND JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-RDU JAN 0.1>0.0
Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
Looks like DL is cancelling several of the more marginal "Delta Dartboard" routes.

All are seasonal routes for DL IDK what this has to do with the so called dartboard...



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8035 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-PHL NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4
WN DEN-PHL JAN 3>2.0
WN MCO-PHL NOV 8>6 DEC 8>7 JAN 8>6
WN PHL-RDU NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN PHL-TPA JAN 3>1.9

I know it is the low season but that's another 6 flts lost at PHL


User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7971 times:

With the schedule release from Monday, WN has added quite a few of the seasonal reductions back... Just a few from cities that were mentioned above.

RDU-BWI 5>6
RDU-HOU 1>2

BOS-BNA 1>2
BOS-BWI 8>9
BOS-DEN 1>2
BOS-RSW 1>2

CMH-LAS 1>2
CMH-MCO 3>4
CMH-TPA 1>2

HOU-JAX 1>2
HOU-MCO 4>5
HOU-MDW 6>7



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7936 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 13):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA IAH-BHM OCT 6>5
UA IAH-CLL SEP 5>4
UA IAH-MCI SEP 8>7
UA IAH-MKE SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
UA IAH-OMA SEP 5>4
UA IAH-SDF OCT 4>3
Quoting kngkyle (Reply 4):
The 6 more this week makes it 49 daily flights cut from IAH so far this month. (for UA)

Smh

Well, lets keep in mind these cuts are for September. Another possibility for what has happened is that UA planned these cuts before or during the HOU CBP situation, but didn't want to hurt their chances with the decision so they waited until it was made and then conveniently announced them.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 13):
They'll fly WN...WN is steady adding at HOU while UA is decreasing.

Makes sense for WN and their 2016 Latin hub in HOU. LOL

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 15):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MDW-OKC NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.7

Sweet...more capacity out of OKC...that's an unusual change.

Yeah, it seems to me that OKC/TUL-MDW should be routinely flown.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16):
Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
Looks like DL is cancelling several of the more marginal "Delta Dartboard" routes.

All are seasonal routes for DL IDK what this has to do with the so called dartboard...

They did shorten the season further versus what they were planning so it's more off-season capacity cuts for DL. They are doing a lot of that these days.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 17):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-PHL NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4
WN DEN-PHL JAN 3>2.0
WN MCO-PHL NOV 8>6 DEC 8>7 JAN 8>6
WN PHL-RDU NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3
WN PHL-TPA JAN 3>1.9

I know it is the low season but that's another 6 flts lost at PHL

Well, to be fair, these are year over year changes, so coupled with WN's seasonalized schedule announcements it is difficult to classify when those cuts became permanent. So, they may or may not be "new". WN has become like FL in one key way. It is now almost impossible to tell what is a seasonal change and what is a permanent change until a year has passed.

Nevertheless, there is no doubt that US beat WN in PHL. I wonder if US will pounce on NK's PHL-DFW. It's interesting that they announced it less than daily to make it even harder for US to commit to responding.


User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA SFO-NRT OCT 2>1.8 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0 MAR 2>1.1

Is UA adding a new route to NRT from another hub? Does this have something to do with ANA flying to SJC? Or simply a seasonal adjustment?



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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7873 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-DAL SEP 1.7>0.2 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.4>0 JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0 MAR 1.7>0

Wasn't this replaced with the return of ATL-DAL?


User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2465 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7827 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
F9 DEN-TUS DEC 1.0>0

So in other words this route is not becoming seasonal and instead they're just dropping it for good?



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL LAX-CMH JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-IND JAN 0.1>0.0
*DL LAX-RDU JAN 0.1>0.0
Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
Looks like DL is cancelling several of the more marginal "Delta Dartboard" routes.

All are seasonal routes for DL IDK what this has to do with the so called dartboard...

EXACTLY!

Everyone is going nuts over this minute adjustments to these routes that go into a seasonal suspension.

All of these "less-than-daily" LAX flights end for the season after Thanksgiving. They briefly return for about 2 weeks over the Christmas holiday period, then do not come back until either mid-Feb or March.

January and early-February is THE SLOWEST travel period of the year.

All DL did here was make an adjustment to their Holiday schedule, which essentially zero'd out these flights for the month of January, when in fact previously they may have only operated once or twice right after New Years.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7691 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7719 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 20):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA SFO-NRT OCT 2>1.8 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0 MAR 2>1.1

Is UA adding a new route to NRT from another hub? Does this have something to do with ANA flying to SJC? Or simply a seasonal adjustment?

DEN-NRT. I'd assume that is related, but it looks like it might be going back to 2 RT in MAR.

Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 21):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-DAL SEP 1.7>0.2 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.4>0 JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0 MAR 1.7>0

Wasn't this replaced with the return of ATL-DAL?

Yes, they filed the ATL last week, but the cut this week.

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 22):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
F9 DEN-TUS DEC 1.0>0

So in other words this route is not becoming seasonal and instead they're just dropping it for good?

Hard to see how you don't operate to TUS in DEC.


25 MasseyBrown : This WN reduction has been planned for a while; but it would be fun to know if the recent opening of a casino in Cleveland has had any effect on the
26 swacle : I can tell you this-despite the casino, this flight goes out full every day of the week with few exceptions. With now 11 daily departures starting in
27 N766UA : Not surprising at all considering all the cutting SWA has done at CLE, and LAS was never a year-round route for them anyway.
28 greenair727 : You saying EWR is half a hub? LAX is tiny and much smaller, but you assign that as a 'whole' hub.
29 drerx7 : He's talking about CLE obviously lol
30 enilria : WN announces their schedules too far in advance for something that recent to be a factor. They announced the CLE-LAS was going away a couple of month
31 Post contains images DeltaL1011man : hey high five for not knowing what your talking about. Good Job LAX cuts are seasonal and FWIW Delta didn't start LAX-IND. Guess NWA had the dartboar
32 yellowtail : Is this a season reduction (hard to thinks os in Dec) or does B6 have an issue on this route
33 EricR : This one is interesting. NK is adding a new destination out of AZA. However, I don't believe SY competed on the Phoenix - Chicago market (unless you
34 yellowtail : Every time i see this frequency I think that this is one city pair that screams High Speed Rail Maybe not so....remember they are pulling the 717s ou
35 N766UA : Correct. Anything less than 500 dailies and a minimum of 5 overseas destinations does not constitute a "proper" hub, regardless of what the airline i
36 united319 : What's this about? Are they moving it to EWR???
37 slcdeltarumd11 : Its amazing the operation NWA use to run to the ski airports from MSP compared to now.
38 knope2001 : Thanks as always for compiling all this information, including the year-over-year Souhwest/Airtran stuff. One thing i think people misunderstand about
39 FlyASAGuy2005 : Right but we have the suspects jumping all over these suspensions calling them out-right cuts and they don't know what they're talking about when you
40 MSPNWA : Should have seen that coming when ATL-DAL was announced. I'm thinking more of DL. Either way I'm excited to see more competition at MSP. MSP-FLL is b
41 Post contains images TWA772LR : YES YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!!!
42 Post contains images enilria : Not that one, but they added a bunch of MSP routes plus some of their recent DFW hurts SY as well. They had a bunch like that, so I just put my comme
43 Cubsrule : I never understood FL's inability to get local passengers on MDW-MSP when they flew it, but WN seems to do much better with the locals in on that rou
44 enilria : I think they are getting rid of everything under 200 miles. MKE-MSP is 300 miles. It's longer than DAL-HOU. The Florida stuff they have dumped is mos
45 PHX787 : How come nobody saw this yet??? A pretty serious cut IMO! Does anyone think AS will start this route? In all seriousness, with PHX and now SEA gone,
46 HVNandrew : Because like the LAX cuts, SEA-CVG is also a seasonal route. DL is just trimming the season by a week.
47 PHX787 : OK that explains why it was only shown as one month on the OAG than a bunch of months. Question for E and/or anybody else familiar with OAG: I google
48 flyguy89 : The traffic is seasonal, but CVG-SEA has never been seasonal. I saw it but just didn't read a whole lot into it, it's a January-only cut with January
49 PHX787 : Is it back in February/March?
50 AVLAirlineFreq : It took a while, but interesting to see this finally come on line. And presumably this Great Lakes route will go away as a result. I must have missed
51 flyguy89 : Most probably, per this OAG update the cut is only for January.
52 kgaiflyer : On WN metal or FL metal? Anyone know?
53 crAAzy : Yes, dropping below that magical 50 number that everyone has been fixated on and this includes them flying LGA and DCA for now. I continue to believe
54 izbtmnhd : What's obvious to you and other a.nut regulars isn't obvious to people who just come on here occasionally. Just FYI. lol
55 Post contains images enilria : FL metal It's another hit for AA. I wonder if they will just do the big hubs in BNA pretty soon.
56 iowaman : ISN is a maintnance base for ZK, so we'll see if they hang on or not.[Edited 2012-07-19 13:38:46]
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OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 4/20/2012: AA/FL/UA posted Thu Apr 19 2012 06:03:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/20/2012: AA/FL/UA posted Thu Apr 19 2012 06:03:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 6/15/2012: AA/G4/UA/WN posted Wed Jun 13 2012 06:54:48 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/20/2012: AA/FL/UA posted Thu Apr 19 2012 06:03:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/20/2012: AA/FL/UA posted Thu Apr 19 2012 06:03:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/20/2012: AA/FL/UA posted Thu Apr 19 2012 06:03:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 1/20/2012:AA/AS/DL/WN posted Thu Jan 19 2012 06:33:53 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 9/4/09:AA/B6/DL/FL/MX/NW/UA/WN posted Thu Sep 3 2009 12:49:33 by Enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/30/2012: AA/DL/F9/UA/US posted Tue Mar 27 2012 09:58:59 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/5/2010: 9K/B6/DL/F9/FL/UA/YX posted Wed Mar 3 2010 17:38:20 by enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 4/27/2012: AM/DL/US/Y4 posted Wed Apr 25 2012 09:05:10 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria
OAG Changes 3/23/2012: AA/DL/FL/NK/US/ZK posted Wed Mar 21 2012 14:59:46 by enilria