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BA/BMI Integration: Next Phase!  
User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21496 times:

According to ba.com and businesstraveler.com:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...ms-fully-flat-seating-on-bmi-a321s

the next integration phase include:

A new three times-daily service to Rotterdam from December 9
Three flights per week to Alicante from October 28
BA flights to Gibraltar will increase from seven to nine flights per week
The carrier’s Tel Aviv route will increase from 14 to 20 services per week, with the new A321s serving flights from the new year
Bmi services to Dammam will cease on September 16, with routes to Bishkek and Khartoum stopping on October 1, Yerevan on October 13, and Amritsar and Casablanca on October 28
Bmi services to Cairo, Moscow, Riyadh and Jeddah will cease, although BA’s flights to these destinations will continue
BA’s flights to Riyadh will be served with a B747 rather than the current B777

Interesting to see Alicante and Rotterdam added (!!!)...


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User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21496 times:

The news about the new route to Rotterdam is also on the Dutch news now:
Starting as from the 9th of December, 3 daily flights with a A320 or A319

http://www.zakenreisnieuws.nl/nl-NL/...af_december_naar_Rotterdam_Airport
Sorry, Dutch only.


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21329 times:

Delighted GIB is increasing cos that early flight from LHR was a pain to connect onto!


My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21318 times:

Hi!

Here's the link to the new routes from British Airways' website:

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/new-routes/public/en_gb

They all seem like good routes to me. The only ones which make me wonder are:

- London City to Isle of Man. Introduced and going to 3 flights each weekday and 1 on Sat. and 2 on Sunday. It seems like a quite strange route to me. I don't know what goes on in the Isle of Man but I can't imagine a large amount of bankers in the city wanting to fly there for the day!

- London City to Venice. Introducing 6 flights a week. Similarly will business types want to fly from the city to Venice?

Many thanks.

Pierre


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3005 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21250 times:
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Quoting Ps76 (Reply 3):
the Isle of Man but I can't imagine a large amount of bankers in the city wanting to fly there for the da

Isle of Man is an off shore finance insurance and shipping industry business location.

There is demand.


User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21214 times:

Hi!

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 4):
Isle of Man is an off shore finance insurance and shipping industry business location.

I had no idea. That does make a lot more sense.

Many thanks.

Pierre


User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 21182 times:

Has there been a verdict yet on whether GYD will stay or go?


Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineseansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21139 times:

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 3):
London City to Isle of Man

This route is being operated by a Saab 2000 of Eastern Airways in BA colours but has gone tech quite a few times since the route launched. 2 days ago I saw it was being operated by a different Saab 2000.

I'm pleased to see Alicante. Although would have preferred LGW service.


User currently offlinemikey72 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 1780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21023 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 4):
Isle of Man is an off shore finance insurance and shipping industry business location.

There is demand.

They are also diversifying into the 'space industry' and have schemes to attract the movie industry.

(I don't why my first attempt to explain this wes deleted moderators as it is true)



Flying is like sex - I've never had all I wanted but occasionally I've had all I can stand.
User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3005 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21003 times:
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Quoting mikey72 (Reply 8):
They are also diversifying into the 'space industry' and have schemes to attract the movie industry.

(I don't why my first attempt to explain this wes deleted moderators as it is true)

Yep its true all right.

Several movies made and some privateer rocket man !


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20940 times:

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 7):
I'm pleased to see Alicante. Although would have preferred LGW service.

Nice to see BA go back to Spain although 3 weekly is not huge... What surprises me though is the axsing of CMN and not AGA. All other European airlines seem to be doing pretty well in North Africa except BA.

Rotterdam is also a big surprise. 3 A319s a day is an overkill. Or the service might be a slot warmer that will hurt CityJet services to LCY. When the new longhaul are introduced, BA could then drop LHR and replace it by LCY...



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User currently offlinevasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 20753 times:

Looks like the UK will lose quite a few direct air routes... Is it now out of the question for BA to start their own flights to the likes of Bishkek, Yerevan etc.?

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 20711 times:

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 3):
Similarly will business types want to fly from the city to Venice?

City is also geared to high end leisure, CFE also fly to Ibiza, Angers, Palma, Mahon, Barcelona, Malaga and Quimper. Indeed by number of destinations, they seem to be a majority! ( We might want to add Nice in there too )

LCY-IOM has gone to three daily already operated by a leased Eastern Saab 2000.


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 20261 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 10):
Rotterdam is also a big surprise. 3 A319s a day is an overkill. Or the service might be a slot warmer that will hurt CityJet services to LCY. When the new longhaul are introduced, BA could then drop LHR and replace it by LCY...

It could be. But i still expect good Loadfactors on the LHR-RTM route. Rotterdam / The Hague area is the most densly populated part of the Netherlands and home to many international companies.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19768 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12):

There is also a need to profitably utilise the aircraft outside of the morning and evening business peak times.

As the airlines have discovered, non peak time flights on many strong business routes are financial dogs. It can be more profitable to find a high end leisure route which is less time sensitive to passengers.



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User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19661 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Thread starter):
BA’s flights to Riyadh will be served with a B747 rather than the current B777

Good god! I presumed this would happen, the only thing is BA's flight is the "reverse" of other European carriers at RUH (arriving 6am, departing around 8am, other euro carriers arrive about 9pm and depart 1am ish having served somewhere as a tag on) but I preferred the BA way round as it didn't leave you arriving into the UK at "funny o-clock" (e.g 4am) nor departing the UK at an odd time.

There's certainly demand for a daily 747 as the BD flights were half full but BA was doing rather well with the 772. I presume this will be with a "high J" 747 since the 772s used to be mostly the non-ER ones with more F seats.


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 19124 times:

Quoting vasu (Reply 11):
Is it now out of the question for BA to start their own flights to the likes of Bishkek, Yerevan etc.?

I doubt it - if you look on the BA website the reason quoted for many of the cancellations is poor revenue performance, so they are hardly likely to cancel a BMI service one day and resurrect it as a BA flight any time soon.

It may be that they are planning to strengthen codeshares with S7 to get passengers into CIS countries. I think S7 has a hub in Novosibirsk which is located in southern Russia - just north east of the various 'stans. An A321 with the new mid hall configuration to Novosibirsk [is probably unlikely] might be good use of one of the slots that these cancellations release..


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 19043 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 14):
It can be more profitable to find a high end leisure route which is less time sensitive to passengers.

Indeed, Friday first wave from LCY is sun oriented rather than business oriented as the bulk of traffic is heading back to Europe in the afternoon.


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2494 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18768 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Thread starter):
Bmi services to Dammam will cease on September 16

seems like bmi has already stopped serving DMM.

ba.com lists BA8499 as a Majestic Samara Or Limousina Cars from BAH to DMM.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/schedules/public/en_gb

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlineZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18706 times:

Just shows you that when BA sold BMED to BMI, they couldn't make it work ,then BD had a go and it proves they screwed up - that was the nail in the coffin starting and now BD have gone and BA are expanding like wild fires

They only draw back I have found is looking at flying from LHR-to-MAN and BA want £330 one way! hahaha WTF!!   (and I've just booked a return ticket PEK-LHR for £450) huum someone at BA need to do the number work again . . .



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User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 18312 times:

Hi!

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 19):
They only draw back I have found is looking at flying from LHR-to-MAN and BA want £330 one way!

I don't know how you found this price. Maybe the website had an error or maybe you put in Manchester USA which also comes up when you type MAN.

I just looked and the price for a return flight tomorrow is £46 each way lowest price which to be honest is better than ever.

Maybe you need to be a little more patient!

[Edited 2012-07-18 20:06:25]

User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 18019 times:

Well at least they have not dropped AMM, BEY, TBS and Almaty as some speculated. However with these CIS and MENA flights going LHR has just lost a few destinations again in the names of profit but I guess its inevitable.

User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2494 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 17947 times:

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 16):

It may be that they are planning to strengthen codeshares with S7 to get passengers into CIS countries. I think S7 has a hub in Novosibirsk which is located in southern Russia

There is also DME, which is S7's primary hub. OVB is their secondary hub.

In all honesty, i'm very surprised that BA decided to keep TBS, but discontinue EVN. Maybe a tag-on LHR-TBS-EVN would have been viable, just like in the old days with BMED.

EVN has had service to LHR since 1997. Sad to see it go !

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17575 times:

Quoting blink182 (Reply 6):
Has there been a verdict yet on whether GYD will stay or go?

Will remain daily.........



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User currently offlinemutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17395 times:

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 19):
Just shows you that when BA sold BMED to BMI, they couldn't make it work ,then BD had a go and it proves they screwed up - that was the nail in the coffin starting and now BD have gone and BA are expanding like wild fires

BA never owned BMED. It was a franchise operator for BA but a totally independent carrier otherwise. BA didnt BID for BMED when it was put on the market and BMI acquired it unopposed.

Regards


25 skipness1E : You can get £330 one way if you book a weekday the day before on LHR-MAN, the moral of the story, is book early.
26 jumpjets : [quote=skipness1E,reply=25]the moral of the story, is book early Or book a return! If I wanted to travel tomorrow to MAN on the most expensive morning
27 JerseyFlyer : It may be equally time-sensitive but for a different time of the day. I certainly try to avoid "red-eyes" when travelling for pleasure! So a win-win
28 RWA380 : As a travel agent, I didn't even know where Bishkek was until about 6-7 years ago, when I had a lady customer who asked me to send her there. The onl
29 thenoflyzone : Now that direct LHR-FRU (via EVN i believe) service will end, not much ! One stops with TK, SU and Air Astana. That's pretty much it out of LHR. Same
30 raffik : Anyone know what is happening with Beirut? Daily?
31 HullCitySpotter : No this is actually right. I read on another forum because of the BA/BD intergration; ex BMI flights are now being put up £200 to make the actual BA
32 tonystan : From BA.COM.... "British Airways will launch a new timetable to Beirut in Lebanon on 28 October 2012. Daily flights will be offered from Heathrow Ter
33 LX138 : No surprise about the dropping of some of those routes. I am surprised about CMN going though, when this is very much a up and coming destination, and
34 seansasLCY : Just because they are dropping it does not mean it doesn't work for them but they can probably earn a lot more using the slot to somewhere else.
35 LX138 : Possibly, but with the amount of short haul slot sitters on at the moment it very much looks like it 'doesn't work for them'!
36 bestwestern : Huge Moroccan community in Paris and business links with France.
37 LH600 : Any idea what will happen to Tehran IKA?
38 thenoflyzone : flights to IKA are currently operated via EVN. Service to EVN ends October 13. The timetables on ba.com do not show any current flights to IKA, which
39 AIR MALTA : TBS is being served daily. On 3 day the flights continue to ALA. It might be that on the 4 other days the service would be extended to IKA. I do not
40 speedmarque : The Baku service will link on to Tehran. The Tbilisi will link on to Almaty. .[Edited 2012-07-19 12:28:24]
41 baexecutive : I don't know exact figures specific to urban areas however Germany has four times as many Moroccan diaspora than the UK..... 200,000 compared to 50,0
42 speedmarque : For those interested. The Amman, Beirut and Tel Aviv services will be operated by Eurofleet LHR crew on Mid Haul A321. The Baku, Tehran, Tbilisi and A
43 bergkampsticket : I'll enjoy the few 767s flying between LHR-EDI. Day trip to London in October booked!
44 AIR MALTA : In the mean time, schedules have been published for services to Tehran, Freetown and Tblisi LHR-FNA --3--6- 22:30-05:25 BA137 767 0 FNA-LHR ---4--7 11
45 Post contains images jumpjets : Given this is the same flight does it mean that passengers from IKA are force to sit on the plane for an extra ten minutes after those from TBS have
46 thenoflyzone : I think it's the Baku service that will link up to IKA, not TBS. Thenoflyzone
47 jumpjets : If you check out the flight numbers you will see that flights to IKA and TBS share the same flight numbers. Baku has a different flight number.
48 aznmadsci : Please excuse if this has been addressed, but has BM cabin crew been integrated into BA cabin crew? Are they under Eurofleet LHR?
49 edina : Over 95% of former LHR based BMI crew have opted to join BAs Eurofleet cabin crew division, with the bulk of those joining the Mixed Fleet operation
50 Post contains links thenoflyzone : Correct. All the info can be found here. http://www.britishairways.com/travel...nter-flights-schedule/public/en_gb Thenoflyzone
51 santos : I thought the BD flight will be discontinued and will only be served by B777/B747.
52 jumpjets : It has been reported that the one remaining BA flight to CAI will be an A321 from January 2013. I have just tried making a dummy booking on ba.com fo
53 AIR MALTA : The only route that has not been updated is Dublin... We will see what happens with that one..
54 lisbonbearuk : So in terms of Morocco, only the AGA survives? CMN/RAK-LHR all get the chop at the end of October?
55 Post contains links santos : RAK will be operated from LGW, daily i believe. More updated info on here: http://www.britishairways.com/travel...nter-flights-schedule/public/en_gb
56 Post contains links Humberside : Two separate things here. The slot divestment process, and traffic rights. The slot divestment process does not restrict how many flights BA can oper
57 jumpjets : Presumably because Egyptair had the flight rights but BMI the landing slots at LHR?
58 tonystan : Only a tiny minority chose to take the sweetner to MF, the vast majority chose to go to the established EF where the 10K could be earned each year an
59 bwaflyer : By the end of this month, there'll be about 200 bmi cabin crew either flying for BA or undergoing training on EuroFleet. The small number of crew goi
60 Humberside : I doubt it. In the past couple of years, Egyptair have added LHR-SSH. Getting late night slots at LHR is possible Probably has been a commercial deal
61 baexecutive : They may have gone to the 'established' Eurofleet however they are on original bmi terms & only for two years, after which they will have to re-a
62 1stfl94 : I don't think the staff had a part in the failing of BMI. In my experience the service was good and the staff very friendly, the management had the r
63 col : Yes, and BA are so perfect!! I think Legends in their own minds comes to bear on this one. Much easier to do business when you have slot control, so
64 baexecutive : I wasn't blaming the crew for the failings however the fact remains that bmi failed, British Airways acquired them and in these uncertain times for a
65 baexecutive : And just to add to my last reply, from what I hear coming from training, the ex bmi staff are by no means behaving in a manner that befits crew at Bri
66 1stfl94 : Not sure what's happened with bmibaby especially as any offer from BA would also require crew to relocate, but they will need to start consultations
67 bennett123 : Clearly not all ex BD staff are taking this negative approach. However, those who are need to remember that going forward they will be getting a BA pa
68 Post contains images col : How dare they during training. They should wait until they are on board the plane working like all other airlines cabin crew. Or are you telling me t
69 baexecutive : Thanks for your reply. I wasn't creating a situation but merely sharing comments that have been overheard by fellow colleagues, perhaps it came acros
70 Post contains images TCX69K : It's not like bmi crew made the decision, British Airways did! Yes we are fortunate compared to our colleagues at bmibaby/outstations etc but you mak
71 baexecutive : It's not really harsh, bmi have clearly failed. Gatwick fleet can not transfer to EF/WW.
72 Speedbird2155 : Comments like these do nothing to make employees joining us in BA feel welcomed, not matter where they came from or why they came. All BA employees,
73 TCX69K : Well whatever. Failed airline or not, it's because of the 'failed airline' that British Airways is able to expand so you should be grateful of it!
74 LHRFlyer : That maybe what you've heard from your source, but I have heard the exact opposite from several different sources. The bmi flight and cabin crew that
75 col : Looks like you too have just joined the failure club. You came on Anet selling your hearsay and bad feelings to BMI, but you have been caught out. Th
76 LHRFlyer : Exactly. Compared to other mergers (see US Airways) it has been very harmonious.
77 bergkampsticket : BA were making huge losses for years. You must have been a failure then.
78 baexecutive : I do wish the new crew every success & welcome them to the company, nowhere did I mention they weren't welcome. I am saying they (and as you point
79 mikey72 : I think it's something like 3 years out of the last 25 they have made a loss. 1992-93: Actual +£172 million. 1993-94: Actual +£274 million. 1994-95
80 Post contains images TCX69K : Who said we're not grateful??
81 mikey72 : Seems to me that it's just tradition for crew to bemoan ( if they are) the airline you are joining under these circumstances. When I was flying if I
82 bwaflyer : Speaking as a bmi crew member, currently 'being integrated', I can say that everybody we've met at Waterside and Cranebank have been nothing but frien
83 Post contains images baexecutive : And I wish you & your colleagues every success with your career. I was and am very sad that bmi couldn't make a success of itself, I always found
84 1stfl94 : In my experience, BMI crew always seemed smarter than those on BA despite the ancient uniform. Actually I'm always surprised BMI never changed the ou
85 tcxdegsy : Well said!! That should put some gas at a peep!!!
86 tonystan : Internet troll perhaps??? I commute to LHR on a BMI route which is slowly switching to a BA operated one however the flights are still BD metal with
87 Post contains images mikey72 : I said all along that BD should have been incorporated into BA in the first place but of course nobody listened to me. I know it was a done deal at t
88 Post contains images edina : Spending a great deal of time in Cranebank & on the line as an EF SCCM this certainly hasn't been my experience......I have found all the ex BD c
89 baexecutive : Why are they comments ignorant? In case you haven't noticed, this is a forum for all to share their comments (whether you deem them helpful or not) -
90 col : I think when you believe that A.net is a social gossip network you need to move on. I think it best you stop replying. For my reference I have seen c
91 Sheridan125 : mikey 72. The shambolic policies of the successive British governments towards transport are well illustrated by the fact that Sir Adam Thomson, Chair
92 VV701 : Policy? What policy? In the late 1960s detailed plans were published for the proposed new London Airport at Wing / Cublington in north Buckinghamshire
93 baexecutive : That's one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen on here. A great deal of topics and posts are based around rumour and what people have hear
94 AIR MALTA : I think we are off topic now... Anyone knows what will happen wih DUB? Only DUB is still showing with BA8XXX numbers... IMHO, DUB should be left to E
95 baexecutive : Your right, sorry.
96 edina : Really?? I was based at LGW for 9 years & my friends & acquaintances who are still at LGW in various roles (CM, Pursers, Main Crew & mana
97 baexecutive : You clearly have a better understanding of my colleagues 'intetests' than me then. As the OP says, I think this is going off topic now so best to eit
98 tonystan : In the old regime I would agree that you have a point however nowadays this would be considered as protectionism which in an open market is just not
99 skipness1E : Why would they leave DUB to someone else? Given that Mr Walsh is CEO, might it not be more likely that DUB would be expected to perform well, no excus
100 mikey72 : If it is an open market why are BA 'lent on' then by politicians and people in the public eye/media to maintain domestic links ? Fortunately as the s
101 rutankrd : Mikey The recent draft discussion policy document attempts to address this very issue Extract :- Public Service Obligations 2.53 Connectivity to Lond
102 mikey72 : Oh. Lol
103 col : I was using my interpretation of your hearsay against facts. I gave you my experience with integration in USA/Asia and Europe carriers. I have experi
104 AIR MALTA : Because EI has 12 or more flights a day and share codes with BA meaning there is no added value on having BA operate 4 daily. These are better used f
105 tonystan : The problem here is that BA just do not have the schedule to go it alone on this route. Pretty much every flight into LHR operated by EI throughout t
106 mikey72 : We all know why domestic service fell by the way side. BA does not own Heathrow Airport or have any control over its capacity expansion therefore pri
107 tonystan : Im not disagreeing with you there....I think your agruement is a little confused!
108 skipness1E : I see why you are saying this but Aer Lingus is not BA, an DUB has been, like Seoul and Belfast missing for too long. It's a very large market, a loc
109 Post contains images VV701 : Maybe. Maybe not. Loganair got into bed with flybe. Flybe is 15 per cent owned by BA. And BA code share on Loganair flights flown by flybe liveried a
110 skipness1E : I understand BA refused to negotiate towards any extension of the Loganair franchise, management were kept at arms length and presented with a "Thanks
111 VV701 : Following the announcement of the purchase of BA franchise operator, BMed, in February 2007, the termination of the BA franchise agreements with the
112 skipness1E : VV701 is this your opinion or are you quoting BA? Either way I don't think that explanation bears any scrutiny. They dumped BA Connect on the basis i
113 RTFM : Well I guess the main difference between BA Connect and Sun Air is that BA have no costs to bear in the latter - they just get a franchise fee, some
114 777way : Will BMI be left with any destinations at closure?
115 VV701 : It is logical deduction from a comment from Walsh that franchhised operations by other UK based airlines had outlived their usefulness. It is a possi
116 raffik : Why are BA operating all of these flights from T1? Are they going to integrate them into T5 or not?
117 rutankrd : Not T1 operations remain for the forseeabl future using ex bmi/Bmed craft.
118 VV701 : Two significant events on Tuesday (31 July) in the integration process. Most notable was the return of former BD 319 G-DBCJ to LHR from EMA after pain
119 skipness1E : This is in conjunction with flying them to end of life around 2015, the standards for the paying customers must be upheld. In what way is this differ
120 VV701 : Many thanks. Exactly my point. Your explanation for this suggestion of a total change in BA strategy at LGW now appears to be that they are doing not
121 skipness1E : Read what I said, the tough decision happens at end of life with the B734s in 2015. Unless LGW staff take another hit, they have told there will be NO
122 Post contains links zkojq : For those interested, a BMI Airbus A330-200 (G-WWBM) has been repainted into an interim livery. This has been done because it previously wore the Star
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