Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 37728 times:
Although there where no injuries and the crew managed to Go Around and land safely in other airport, certainly this could be one of the more serious incidents in Chile in the last few years. Sky Ariline B 737 200 trying to land in La Serena had to divert to Copiapo after the right wingtip contacted for seconds with the runway surface.
There is a video of the aborted landing somewhere, but I couldn't find yet.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 36764 times:
We sometimes hear stories of "OMG my plane wing scrapped the runway"
This time it was true.
The video is from inside the aircraft in front of the wing showing the runway surface on the right side of the plane. It does not show the wing touching the ground - the camera being aimed too far forward - and that seat may not have had a view of the wing tip anyway.
The video shows right before touchdown. The plane comes in close to the runway surface and moves quite quickly left of the centerline. There is a light jarring of the camera and the plane appears to be pulling away from the runway.
Good job on going around. There was a thread on this forum a couple days ago about an off runway incident supposedly from a crew forcing such a landing.
I started that thread too ( I was again the carrier of the bad news ).... funny how our minds works, this thread about Indonesia ( where an accident happened possibly because they didn't make a Go Around ) was basically ignored by everyone, and this where the runway excursion was avoided by the Go Around, is apparently much more interesting due to a wingtip scrapping...
The airport in La Serena ( named La Florida ) is at the ( flat ) top of a hill when you land looking to the East, or you can have a panoramic approach making turns between the hills when you land looking to the west. No ILS, and a 6.300 ft runway.
Most part of the time has a very friendly weather, soft winds and sun, but sometimes can be tricky, in adverse conditions you can have dense fog ( no wind but no visibility either ), or good visibility but strong winds ( seems to be the case of this aborted landing ). I have tattooed in my brain two shaky Go Around on board of 732's trying to land here.
The thing that puzzles me a little is why they diverted to Copiapo instead Santiago, the distance is only 40 nm shorter ( and the difference in terms of all kind of facilities or emergency services is big )
OllieJolly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2012, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 34374 times:
Looks like it could be CC-CTK?
Also as I don't see it on any other 732 photos that I've looked at in the last few minutes, is it just a trick of the light or is there a burnt area on the fuselage? Is this a result of the incident or?
Either that or it's something completely obvious that I don't know about.
Edit: After looking at the news article I see on the low quality picture of passengers leaving the aircraft that it looks to have one on the other side too making me wonder if it's just a result of exhaust from the engines?
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9621 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 33400 times:
Quoting OllieJolly (Reply 8): After looking at the news article I see on the low quality picture of passengers leaving the aircraft that it looks to have one on the other side too making me wonder if it's just a result of exhaust from the engines?
rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 31981 times:
From the last photo in the original post, it looks like they got the outer flap track fairing too. It seems like they'd have had to drag the engine too, to get that to happen. Or has it just been partially removed in that photo?
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3666 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 31670 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 7): The thing that puzzles me a little is why they diverted to Copiapo instead Santiago, the distance is only 40 nm shorter
Probably because the most important thing was to get to the nearest suitable airport as quickly as possible. Maybe that extra few minutes diverting to SCL could mean the difference between landing safely or there being catastrophic structural failure in the wing. The crew had no way of knowing that.
This was not a case of a diversion where they can just go to the most convenient place where there are good maintenance facilities and the passengers can be accommodated, and there is a nice terminal. This was potentially a very significant emergency where the difference of minutes might count for survival. The crew could not be assured of the structural integrity of the wing and how long it was going to hold together. The also probably felt that the conditions were not suitable to try to land again at the wing-scrape airport, given the uncertainty of the condition of the airplane.
I'm speculating the Captain's thought process, but in my mind he made the right decision in getting the airplane on the ground at a safe airport ASAP.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 3153 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 29132 times:
Quoting rwessel (Reply 10): From the last photo in the original post, it looks like they got the outer flap track fairing too. It seems like they'd have had to drag the engine too, to get that to happen. Or has it just been partially removed in that photo?
Probably not. Don't forget since the aircraft was in landing configuration, the flaps are down pretty far. If they draffed the flaps on a clean wing, that would be a different story.
tb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1840 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 27580 times:
Quoting zeke (Reply 4): Off runway centerline by a fair way judging by the location of the centerline visible in the video.
Wow yeah, way off centerline. I only got one view of the video due to this crappy hotel internet, but it almost looks like they were still making the turn to line up with the centerline as they were in the last 100 or so feet there. I didn't see when this happened exactly but the METAR's from the last 36 hours show very light winds.
Alnicocunife From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 23265 times:
Quoting b767 (Reply 16):
In a situation like this,has it ever happend that an aileron have been jammed because of it,and if it does, will it affect the other aileron and the roll spoilers?
There is a breakout if one aileron is jammed allowing the other to operate normally. The spoilers augment the ailerons in certain conditions. So you will mostly likely not encounter a condition where both ailerons and all flight spoilers become inop.
MikeCT From United States of America, joined May 2008, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 13071 times:
I found this passenger video of the attempted landing. I can't get the videos to play in the first reply, so I'm not sure if this was included in that.
All I can say is that was one wild landing attempt. It looked like they were at about a 30 degree angle crossing the threshold and almost went into the grass to the left, only to correct back to the right and come close to leaving the runway on that side before they finally became airborne again. Somehow, the passenger filming never moves the camera.
That appears to be the original video. The short clip included in the news segment linked above only shows the aircraft over the runway and the bump when the wing hit the runway. The TV clip doesn't include the movement back across the runway and the liftoff.
OllieJolly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2012, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12492 times:
Wow I didn't get to see the video because the page wouldn't load for me yesterday but I just viewed it on YouTube and I didn't expect what I saw. I assumed the aircraft was landing normally and did a "sway" right such as the Lufthansa A320(?) landing. It really came across the runway at an angle didn't it?
Also, has anyone confirmed which aircraft this was yet? Apologies if I've missed something.