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Where Are TG's A340-500s Stored?  
User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 844 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13023 times:

Ok, we all know that TG WFU the A340-500 from the fleet. Does anyone know where TG stored the aircraft? BKK? Returned to lessor and taken to the desert?

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User currently onlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 12966 times:

HS-TLA/B/C are all stored in BKK but each took local (test) flights during June.

HS-TLD appears to be doing some Government flying and is currently in Paris having been to Berlin earlier this week, along with possibly some other European destinations.


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 12282 times:

HS-TLA, HS-TLB and HS-TLC are at DMK and start to look pretty dirty.

[Edited 2012-07-19 20:14:20]


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineqf340500 From Singapore, joined Oct 2011, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

what a pity for one of the most beautiful aircraft in history.... especially in Thai colours...

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8538 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 12073 times:

Quoting qf340500 (Reply 3):
what a pity for one of the most beautiful aircraft in history.... especially in Thai colours...

Yes, what a sad thread... the Concorde and the Thai A345, best looking aircraft I ever saw.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 12061 times:
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Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):
the Concorde and the Thai A345, best looking aircraft I ever saw.

We need a Museum of Aviation Aesthetics to preserve such frames.


User currently offlinedennys From France, joined May 2001, 888 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 11436 times:

Many thanks guys to say such nice things about the A345 , which is one of my favourite birds .
I am still surprised that no more EU members answer that topic , Let It Be !

Concerning the HS- TLD , thanks to your info, i have just known by a friend of mine , that she is at ORY for a gouvernment mission

Kind regards
dennys


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9376 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 11031 times:

The Thai PM is touring Europe and she has been to Berlin as well.


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User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3938 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 11030 times:

So sad to see these wonderful aircrafts, been put out of regulare Thai service. Miss them at OSL ....

User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 11019 times:

Quoting dennys (Reply 6):
I am still surprised that no more EU members answer that topic

Thailand is a bit far away for us to drive by after work...


User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 10918 times:

Are they owned by Thai?


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User currently offlinejustloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1056 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 10899 times:

Quoting dennys (Reply 6):
Many thanks guys to say such nice things about the A345 , which is one of my favourite birds .
I am still surprised that no more EU members answer that topic , Let It Be !

Concerning the HS- TLD , thanks to your info, i have just known by a friend of mine , that she is at ORY for a gouvernment mission

Kind regards
dennys

Brings up a question, since the A345 is a long range, quad and quiet, she seems ideal for other governments as a state platform. UK, Germany, etc. Wonder if Thai could sell these at an attractive price.


User currently onlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 10877 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 1):
HS-TLA/B/C are all stored in BKK but each took local (test) flights during June.

I'm guesing that this will be something to do with their certificate of airworthiness being maintained?


User currently onlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 10748 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 12):

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 1):
HS-TLA/B/C are all stored in BKK but each took local (test) flights during June.

I'm guesing that this will be something to do with their certificate of airworthiness being maintained?


Well, thinking about it, possibly they ferried to DMK as Thomas_Jaeger in reply 2 states that is where they are?


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10410 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
We need a Museum of Aviation Aesthetics to preserve such frames.

And to this I would add the VC-10 in BOAC scheme.



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User currently offlineBeeski From US Virgin Islands, joined Dec 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10343 times:

agree with all the above....and I'll nominate the L-1011 in classic Delta livery for the Museum.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10195 times:

Quoting Beeski (Reply 15):

agree with all the above....and I'll nominate the L-1011 in classic Delta livery for the Museum.



I would like to add a PA 707 and a TW 757 to this Museum of Astetics. Guess we also better put the Super Guppy in there too. 



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10148 times:

Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 14):
And to this I would add the VC-10 in BOAC scheme.

G-ASGC at Duxford is in this scheme.
Given they don't know what to do with these aircraft and Airbus still have some unsold green tails, I wonder if they'll put them back into service like Emirates and misuse them on routes to Europe just to add capacity.

[Edited 2012-07-20 07:33:29]

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 9723 times:

I'd be absolutely delighted if the RAF bought them up as strategic lift to ease the pressure on the Tristar/Vc10/Voyager fleet.

They have enormous under-floor cargo capacity and i think as troop transports they'd do very well in a QC config - RAF can then change the layout and interior if VIP transport etc is needed. I'd guess the fact that they can easily do Brize - Falklands non-stop at full payload would make them attractive as well. Just carrying troops and their kit and no cargo they could probably go anywhere on the planet non-stop near enough I'd have thought.

Could pick up all four for considerably less than the price of one new Voyager and about half the price of a new C17 (whcih we also need more of, very badly).

Could you also fit them with wingtip refueling pods like the Tristars have?

Common type rating with the Voyagers.
Same Trent engine cores and spares trains/pools.
Pretty low-cycle airframes, not been worked very hard.
Immaculately maintained and in great condition considering.
Similar ramp footprint to the Voyagers and share the same GSE / handling equipment.


I'm sure they are looking at them. Madness not to be, frankly.

[Edited 2012-07-20 08:01:04]

[Edited 2012-07-20 08:11:01]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 7):
The Thai PM is touring Europe and she has been to Berlin as well.

Ummm did she travel on a 345?

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 17):
Given they don't know what to do with these aircraft and Airbus still have some unsold green tails, I wonder if they'll put them back into service like Emirates and misuse them on routes to Europe just to add capacity.

Agreed. As relatively inefficient as the 345 is, parking such young aircraft seems premature, unless Thai is losing $ and needs to shrink to a profitable core.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 9642 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 19):
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 17):
Given they don't know what to do with these aircraft and Airbus still have some unsold green tails, I wonder if they'll put them back into service like Emirates and misuse them on routes to Europe just to add capacity.

Agreed. As relatively inefficient as the 345 is, parking such young aircraft seems premature, unless Thai is losing $ and needs to shrink to a profitable core.

They are roughly comparable to a 744 in trip costs - perhaps 10% less in fuel but they carry a lot less pax. The 744s are paid off, the A345s are not full amortised yet so are costing money in financing.

A fully paid off, debt free A345 is still an efficient machine. Just not as efficient as the 744/A346



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 9439 times:

Am I glad that I was on their BKK-LAX-BKK runs shortly before they pulled the plug.
The longest nonstop I have ever been on.
A fine flying experience made even better by the attentive FAs. Kop khun mak krap!



Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis
User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 8927 times:

Quoting justloveplanes (Reply 11):
Brings up a question, since the A345 is a long range, quad and quiet, she seems ideal for other governments as a state platform. UK, Germany, etc. Wonder if Thai could sell these at an attractive price.

Might as well reserve one for themselves to replace this.....

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Could be cheaper and more practical than ordering a brand-new ACJ.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 19):
Ummm did she travel on a 345?

Probably on this.....

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User currently offlinekinglobjaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 8663 times:

Since this is quasi related to the LAX since the A345s were mostly dedicated to the LAX run, around April 2013 ish or so, LAX will become a TG 747 route offering F/Biz/Y, which I think is great news!


Kinglobjaw
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 8663 times:

Quoting kinglobjaw (Reply 23):
Since this is quasi related to the LAX since the A345s were mostly dedicated to the LAX run, around April 2013 ish or so, LAX will become a TG 747 route offering F/Biz/Y, which I think is great news!

Not if you are actually flying on the plane.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
25 skipness1E : HS-CMV was at Luton last Tuesday, perhaps the B737-400?
26 Stitch : Amen, mate. I much prefer TG F on the A340-600 than the 747-400 (just don't like being in the nose - feels too cramped).[Edited 2012-07-20 09:37:32]
27 legacyins : Is this a IYO or is there something official stating this. Quite surprising since the 747 is not very economical.
28 nethkt : There is no F on 340-500, only Royal Silk = Business class! You prefer the low ceiling and not so exclusive of zone A on 340s? Our PM travels on gove
29 Revelation : Not a lot of rational behavior in the UK MOD. Retiring Tranche 1 Typhoons, shaky plans for carriers, huge base closures, etc. At least they are not u
30 Post contains links and images Stitch : My bad. Thinking of the A340-600. I just find the nose section of the 747 claustrophobic when 10-12 suites are present. Even BA's new FIRST - which l
31 135mech : WOW... not much walking space there...but those seats look comfy!!!
32 LN-MOW : Better than pulling a production aircraft out of service, which they usually do ..
33 SQ22 : Actually I had the same idea, but I was thinking about the A345 still owned by Airbus. The German "Flugbereitschaft" being part of the Air Force purc
34 Carls : Wasn't Conviasa out of Venezuela going to get some A345? Maybe these beauties are heading to Caracas...[Edited 2012-07-20 11:31:02]
35 Post contains images fanofjets : I totally agree with you (and some other Airnutters). There are so many beautiful machines waiting out there. Not to mention historic airframes that
36 bennett123 : IIRC, ZS-OOS was DBR after hitting a rather large pothole in the taxi way. IMO, DBR is not the same as being retired. My understanding is that the DC8
37 Ben175 : The 345 is one of my favourite aircraft around, I have flown on SQ's numerous times and every flight has been amazing. I wish an airline would pick th
38 terminalc : It's going to work for me. LAX has not had F service since the A345s went into service. It's a very welcome change.
39 Post contains links 135mech : http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hydro...d=cc241dd0b06677b7b1fb5f982e40bfa9 Here is what she looked like before being totally dismantled. Sad
40 Post contains images zkojq : I sure hope these pretty Aircraft find new homes - and fast. It would be sad if they met a similar fate to the ex-Olympic Airbus A340s. Always sad to
41 Thomas_Jaeger : HS-CMV is mainly used for members of the Thai royal family. The A319CJ has been flying again for quite some time now, so seems to have survived the f
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