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Derelict Spanair DC-9 At...HIO?  
User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5564 times:

Anyone know the story behind the Spanair DC-9 sitting at HIO, sans engines? Right by Nike's hangar, too...Suprised Phil Knight would allow such low class neighbors  


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Since JK hasn't operated DC-9's since the early 1990's, I suppose you have seen an MD-80.


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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3481 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

It's their MDs, or actually DC-9-81/82/83/87, as their certificates said.

Some of them was owned by SAS and has been sent to the US for part out and scrap


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2774 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4957 times:


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I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.  



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User currently offlinen471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4818 times:
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Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

It is one of 7 MD-87's purchased for this purpose.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

Who's doing the converting? Evergreen?



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 1):
Since JK hasn't operated DC-9's since the early 1990's, I suppose you have seen an MD-80.

Hard to tell with no engines on the airframe  



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I heard it is to be converted to a water tanker.

I wonder how efficient it will be as a tanker.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4578 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):

I wonder how efficient it will be as a tanker.

According to the USFS:

Quote:
MD-87 (Boeing). This aircraft is no longer in production and would only be available as previously-used. This aircraft has a speed of 380 mph; carries approximately 4,000 gallons of retardant; has 2 turbo fan engines; and was designed for commercial passenger transport, a mission that is not comparable to the maneuver load impacts of an airtanker in the wildland firefighting environment. Original manufacturer support for this aircraft has not yet been obtained. This aircraft has not gone through the required testing, evaluation and application phase for the airtanker mission, but it would be expected to meet agency and FAA airworthiness and safety requirements. The MD-87 will not be capable of multi-role missions.

So about 33% more retardant capacity than a C-130 or other heavy tanker.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 8):
The MD-87 will not be capable of multi-role missions.

Hmmm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 8):
So about 33% more retardant capacity than a C-130 or other heavy tanker.

So why are they buying it? just for the tanker purposes?



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 9):
So why are they buying it? just for the tanker purposes?

Yes. From the sounds of it, the tanks will be in the cabin, so it won't be usable for hauling personnel or freight. Think of it as a P-2 used today, but with twice the drop capacity. And not 60 years old. USFS has gone from about 40 heavy tankers on contract a decade ago to just 12 this season (and this was before the gear-up landing of one P2, and the crash of another).



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User currently offlineAmericanAirFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3635 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 6):
Hard to tell with no engines on the airframe

It's all in the tail, and the wings.

And BTW



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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

This MD87 was owned by SAS and returned to them after the bankrupcy. It was ferried to HIO in March through KEF and BGR as SE-DMM. Pictures in this thread from Norwegian site Flyprat.

forum.flyprat.no/showthread.php?t=101629



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