LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51 Posted (10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14479 times:
The DOT Air Carrier Fitness Division eysterday issued a reminder to California Pacific Airlines that time is running short on fulfilling departmental requirements by the airline.
In 2011, following the issuance of the carriers economic authority, the carrier has a 1-year period to meet additional conditions including achieving its Air Carrier Certificate and Operations Specifications from the FAA and launching commercial flight services.
The DOT has determined this 12-month deadline ends August 25, 2012, at which time the granted authority shall be revoked due to dormancy.
The DOT states, CP Air may request a waiver, but cautions such waivers are not granted routinely.
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PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4946 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13979 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): The DOT has determined this 12-month deadline ends August 25, 2012, at which time the granted authority shall be revoked due to dormancy.
Sooooo basically, they gotta start operations or state when they're starting operations by 8/25?
Not so often I've seen a DOT report telling an airline to get flying, actually
timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13905 times:
What does California Pacific still need to do before they are ready to begin service? They have an aircraft now, but how far along are they in staffing and training? Last I heard they were not planning to start service until sometime next year.
airtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13716 times:
I know for a fact that their training manuals were completed this week and submitted to the FAA. One of my friends wrote them, and they should be approved very quickly.
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SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4719 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13585 times:
The last info I have is that a second a/c is expected somewhere in the late August-September time frame and that might signal the start of scheduled, revenue flights. If that speculation proves to be true, then it seems quite possible that the August 25th deadline just might be manageable (but would probably require an extension?)
I can see CP Air getting off the ground with 2 planes, and then adding frequencies when their 3rd a/c arrives.
flycpair From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 18 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13283 times:
We are well aware of the 8/25 deadline and are working on getting an extension. We can't "fly" until our 121 certificate is granted and we continue our work on that effort.
We have nothing to do with the SCASD grant mentioned above, our sole focus is on Carlsbad, CA.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4719 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12442 times:
Quoting flycpair (Reply 7): We are well aware of the 8/25 deadline and are working on getting an extension. We can't "fly" until our 121 certificate is granted and we continue our work on that effort.
We have nothing to do with the SCASD grant mentioned above.
Thanks for the update Randy, and for taking care of that Nevada misinformation.
Continued good luck to all of you in Carlsbad on getting over the rest of the hurdles!
That makes no difference at all. Even if they had 200 airplanes already or 0 airplanes, for example, and not enough staff, it wouldn't still make a difference. They are required by law to have people in certain positions before they can fly. My question is: What is taking them so long?? The minimum they need, I believe, is a CEO, a COO, a safety manager, a chief pilot, a director of maintenance and at at least 1 A&P mechanic. That is not a complete list, but I am sure there are more positions required to be filled before they can get their 121.
Quoting usxguy (Reply 14): They will probably grant a short term extension
That is not how the DOT works. The only way to get ANY extension from the DOT is to basically kiss ass... meaning that they have to come up with a very, very, VERY good reason as to why the DOT should not revoke their license.
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