Is this still holding true and feasible with the current 787 production schedule? Does anybody have a hard date for the switch? All the flights are currently loaded as 77W...
bioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4278 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
NH has 11 787-8s already with more on the way, so I see no reason why they would not have a 787 available when it comes time to pull the 777-300ER.
I thought most of the current and future deliveries were domestic config, not international config frames? I'm about to book SFO-TPE for late October and would consider SFO-SEA-NRT-TPE to get my first 787 flight in
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10641 posts, RR: 100 Reply 3, posted (10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4118 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): NH has 11 787-8s already with more on the way, so I see no reason why they would not have a 787 available when it comes time to pull the 777-300ER.
There should be enough delivery slots in there. I count three that are about to be delivered, so with 14 in the time frame of interest, I think ANA will pull it off.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4716 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
Interesting. There's also the SJC-NRT route to be considered in this discussion, right? If NH has a 787 available for trans-Pac flying this year, why would they put it on SEA rather than deploy it to SJC and get that route started? (AFAIK, the expected start date is still March/April 2013?)
I assume the down-gauge of SEA is due to less traffic in the fall, or is it because they need the T7 elsewhere at that time? Otherwise, I don't quite get the holding off of SJC...
(Actually, won't it take 2 birds to get either route -- SEA or SJC -- up and running daily?)
atlflyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 558 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 months 11 hours ago) and read 2615 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 3): Neither SEA nor NRT is famous for a large premium market.
Tokyo, really? The largest single urban GDP city in the world with over 30 million people doesn't have a large premium market? Surley you have to be making that up. While I could see most premium traffic wanting to use HND because of it's location compaired to Tokyo, HND does not have service to all the international cities that NRT does.
IrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1726 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
We are booked outbound from SEA to NRT on October 25th on NH. Crossing my fingers....
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5524 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
@IrishAyes...just make sure you check your seat reservations periodically so you don't lose your optimal seat.
carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2767 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1716 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5): Do you know how many of the 11 delivered to date have the longhaul configuration vs. the higher-density domestic/regional configuration?
Just two in the long-haul configuration. (JA805A & JA806A)
Four are in a temporary domestic configuration. (JA801A, JA802A, JA804A, & JA807A)
The rest are all domestic configuration. (JA808A, JA809A, JA810A, JA811A, & JA812A)
The domestic aircraft cannot be used for long-haul because of the obvious seat set-up.
The current two long-haul 788s are based out of HND for the HND-FRA flying.
To reasonably fly NRT-SEA daily, NH would need two 788s to be based out of NRT. The NRT-SEA has a turnaround of approximately two hours at each station and would leave very little slack in scheduling for maintenace and irregularities. I have no ideas on what configuration are planned for future deliveries.
bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1588 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1538 times:
Quoting atlflyer323 (Reply 6): Quoting lightsaber (Reply 3):
Neither SEA nor NRT is famous for a large premium market.
Tokyo, really? The largest single urban GDP city in the world with over 30 million people doesn't have a large premium market?
With Ichiro traded to the Yankees, I would think there will be fewer Japanese tourist coming to Seattle.
JerseyFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 458 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1429 times:
Let's all use upgauge / downgauge in future in place of upgrade / downgrade - its a much more accurate descriptor for an airline decision to deploy a larger / smaller aircraft.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8735 posts, RR: 52 Reply 13, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1336 times:
Quoting ANA787 (Reply 11):
My prediction: NH or UA on this route will bite the dust in 6 months.
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 10):
With Ichiro traded to the Yankees, I would think there will be fewer Japanese tourist coming to Seattle.
I suspect UA may not last since it is one of the few non hub international routes on the airline. Yields are better than LAX - NRT but they may drop some.
However I don't think it is guaranteed to fail. SEA-NRT briefly sustained two 747s and a 777 in the late 90s. An A330, 787, and 777 may be manageable in the summer but u would not think three flights per day could be sustained in the winter. It is good ANA will downsize to the 788.
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bioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1273 times:
Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 12): Let's all use upgauge / downgauge in future in place of upgrade / downgrade - its a much more accurate descriptor for an airline decision to deploy a larger / smaller aircraft.
Did you even bother to read the thread? You're the only person using the phrase 'upgrade' or 'downgrade' in here...
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I count three that are about to be delivered, so with 14 in the time frame of interest, I think ANA will pull it off. 
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