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User currently offlineSepulTallica From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

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Thread Archive: ▪ African Aviation #1 ▪ African Aviation #2 ▪ African Aviation #3 ▪ African Aviation #4 ▪ African Aviation #5 ▪ African Aviation #6 ▪ African Aviation #7


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Jambanja everybody.

Its time again for another African Aviation Thread so i may as well get the ball rolling.



Ethiopian Airlines (ET) to receive the first African 787 in August; DXB, JNB, HRE, LUN, CAN to be the first routes served. ET has also signed a deal for an additional B777-200LR worth USD$276million.

▪ A new African LCC "FastJet" of Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou fame, is slated to launch in October using five Airbus A319s. Once fully established it will absorb the Fly540 LCC brand currently flying in Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana and Angola. Hopefully this will be the dawn of a renaissance in African Aviation given the years of heavy protectionism most African governments have given their local aviation industries.

▪ Chadian state carrier Toumaï Air Tchad (9D), along with two other unspecified airlines, have been grounded indefinitely by Chadian authorities in Ndjamena following a damning safety audit of the airlines by IATA. This actually does suck balls because in the past Toumai provided a very competitive fare ex-Ndjamena to surrounding countries like Cameroon, the Central African Republic, Sudan and the DRC, whereas now, everyone will be forced to fly via ADD or NBO, though i suppose not dying in a fiery ball of flames in the middle of the Sahara will still be a deciding factor for many people  

Air Nigeria (VK) is still to launch its LOS - JNB service, 3 months after it was first advertised. In recent months, life at the airline has been fairly crappy to say the least with various strikes, tax raids and public mud slinging matches with butthurt ex-directors doing considerable harm to the airline's image and reputation.

Air Seychelles (HM) finally received their first ex Jet Airways A330-200 all dolled up in their exotic livery:

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As always, feel free to add any info you have.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

PIA are planning to return to the continent with services to Nairobi and Johannesburg (new), no given time frame though, African ops were suspended in 2006 with Tripoli and NBO as last destinations served there.

User currently offlineSepulTallica From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4750 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
PIA are planning to return to the continent with services to Nairobi and Johannesburg (new)

Interesting you mention this. I was chatting with a Pakistani guy on the HRE-DXB flight last week and he was telling me how much of a colossal pain in the ass it was for him and many other Pakistanis to fly to KHI in the past, before EK introduced their flights to HRE & LUN.

Do you remember what equipment they used to NBO? Was it mostly business traffic or more family travelling back home from Africa to see loved ones in Pakistan?



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User currently offlineSepulTallica From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4507 times:



KLM returns to Harare, Zimbabwe after a 10 year hiatus. Service to be restarted via Lusaka, Zambia (outbound and inbound) effective 29 October 2012.



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2135 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

It can be very difficult to figure out what is going on with some carriers. Can anyone help?

How is Camair doing?

How is Air Senegal doing? I have heard they are really having a hard time.

How is ASKY doing?

How is Mauritanian airlines doing?

How is Air Mali faring with all the turmoil in the country?

Also, I received an email from VK stating:

Following series of meetings between board, management & employees over the last few weeks, employees of Air Nigeria have reaffirmed their loyalty to safeguard the airline from external forces that have been trying to sabotage the airline's achievements of the last two years that culminated with the successful launch of the growth strategy on May 16, 2012, with the start of the Lagos London route.

Air Nigeria staff have also established employees counsel that comprises representatives across all the departments of the airline. The employees counsel will regularly meet with the top management to discuss plans and performance of the airline as well as follow-up of issues that have been raised by staff. Employees have also assured their readiness for the immediate start of domestic and regional operations.

Air Nigeria has currently finalized its revival and growth plans to immediately recommence regional and domestic operations and the resumption of services will be announced soon.

We would also like to inform that the Lagos - London - Lagos flights are operating to schedule and are not affected by the temporary suspension directive of the NCAA. Passengers are therefore encouraged to proceed with their confirmed itinerary while intending customers can make their reservations through all our sales channels or by calling the contact centre on 01-2711111.


Does this mean that VK isn't operating any regional or domestic routes right now?


User currently offlineSepulTallica From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4353 times:

Hey AF022,

We run a little online paper/blog that tries to provides up-to-date info on the airlines you mentioned though as you correctly say, finding accurate info is a very rare commodity when dealing with obscure African airlines, most of whom operate on a cash basis and who therefore maintain a very low web presence, if any. West Africa is especially a douzy.

The African Aviation Tribune.

To answer some of your questions:

-Camair-Co has ordered 2 MA-60s with a third to arrive gratis as part of the Chinese's "Buy 2 Get 1 Free" deals. Financially it took it on the chin in its first 2 years of operating, but it is hoping to turn a profit in future with new regional routes to the DRC and Nigeria planned. Problems may arise in future with CEMAC (Economic and Monetary Community of African States (CEMAC) consisting of Cameroon, the Central African Republic, Congo (Brazzaville), Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and Chad) also wanting to start a dedicated regional airline that will likely conflict with Camair-Co's routes. Gabon is also likely to bitch (Gabon Airlines being in the same boat as Camair Co).

-ASKY, from what we have heard, appears to be fairing quite well though we have yet to see any concrete confirmations on its profitability. It will be interesting to see how they do when Ghana's Starbow Airlines, fly540, CitiLink and eventually FastJet all eventually get their acts together and vie for a piece of the West African aviation market pie.

-Air Nigeria has been in the crap for a while. Most of its 737s were taken back by GECAS in June owing to unpaid bills meaning that the airline has pretty much been forced to cease its regional and domestic services. Flights to London are still on as the aircraft are wet leased from Egyptair, though Air Nigeria's lack of $$$ has forced Egyptair to hold back on a second A330 needed to start JNB-LOS.



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User currently offlinesoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

TK is expanding heavilly in Africa,
Abuja, Kano, Egunu, Conakry, Freetown and Douala are next...



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
Do you remember what equipment they used to NBO? Was it mostly business traffic or more family travelling back home from Africa to see loved ones in Pakistan?

PK served NBO starting in the 1960s or early 70s. so 707/720s, A300, and last type was A310 they were catering to all kinds of traffic not limited to a certain group.


User currently offlineSepulTallica From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

Ethiopian Airlines Postpones Boeing 787 Inaugural Service till mid-August 2012.

- Addis Ababa – Guangzhou eff 16AUG12 daily service
- Addis Ababa – Johannesburg eff 17AUG12 daily service (previously to start from 01AUG12)
- Addis Ababa – Dubai eff 31OCT12 ET600/601 Day 34 service (Day 45 from DXB; previously to begin from 01AUG12)

Planned 787 service on 4x weekly Addis Ababa – Harare and 3x weekly Addis Ababa – Lusaka starting 28OCT12, is cancelled.   

After the latest revision, it appears that the airline’s first Boeing 787 route is scheduled for Guangzhou service. Additional changes remains possible.



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User currently offline9w748capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

My first foray into the African aviation thread - interesting to read about a continent I haven't actually visited but surely hope to one day! Any chance ET introduces the 787 on the BOM route? That would be a sweet sight even though ET's India ops all occur in the dark...

User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 4):
How is Air Mali faring with all the turmoil in the country?

"On-line newspaper reports state that the Malian airline has withdrawn its three McDonnell Douglas MD-87s from regular service and is instead relying on the use of its sole Canadair CRJ-200 to ply flights from Bamako to Conakry (Guinea), Accra (Ghana) and Abidjan (Cote d'Ivoire)."

Source

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
My first foray into the African aviation thread - interesting to read about a continent I haven't actually visited but surely hope to one day! Any chance ET introduces the 787 on the BOM route? That would be a sweet sight even though ET's India ops all occur in the dark...

I'm not too sure man, but i would hazard a guess that as the 787s begin to arrive so you're likely to see them in either DEL or BOM at some stage.

Also, saw this last week:

Eritrean Suspends Flights

"Only three weeks after launching services to South Africa, Eritrean Airlines has suspended flights, Tourism Update reports. The airline, which launched operations on May 7, said the prime reason for the suspension of services was a critical shortage of jet fuel at the airline's home base of Asmara, which necessitated additional stops for fuel on both south- and northbound flights. As a result, the operational costs of the route had risen to prohibitive levels that were not offset by revenue from current passenger loads."

Source

So what's the deal with these clowns running Eritrean? You fly a route for 3 weeks then realise it isn't viable?

[Edited 2012-08-02 16:21:24]


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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

All this VK drama is really starting to annoy me. I am planning on visiting Ghana/Senegal/Guinea Bissau on vacation next year but the ACC-DKR segment is proving to be very problematic.

The suspension of VK operations means that no carrier is flying this route right now. The best I can do is a Emirates/Senegal Airlines combo with a four hour layover in ABJ or fly KQ via NBO which turns a 3 hour flight into an 18 hour transcontinental ordeal. I really need ET/Asky to start flying ACC-LFW-DKR again or I need FastJet to serve this as one of their launch routes.

I never would have thought flying between the 3rd and 4th largest cities in West Africa would be such a PITA.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2135 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3446 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 11):
Asky to start flying ACC-LFW-DKR

I have heard the Senegalese won't let ASKY into DKR. It would be much easier getting between the 3rd and 4th largest cities in West Africa if the Senegalese weren't so protective of Senegal Airlines. What ever happened to African open skies?


User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3270 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 11):
All this VK drama is really starting to annoy me. I am planning on visiting Ghana/Senegal/Guinea Bissau on vacation next year but the ACC-DKR segment is proving to be very problematic.

Have you considered Air Burkina? ACC-OUA-DKR

http://www.air-burkina.com/



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User currently offlinesoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

Starbow just launched acc-coo. U can fly direct (1stop) on coo-dkr.


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3044 times:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 13):
Have you considered Air Burkina? ACC-OUA-DKR

http://www.air-burkina.com/

Thanks for the suggestion. Air Burkina is an option but they only operate ACC-OUA-DKR on Sundays. I would prefer a flight on Monday or Tuesday. However, Air Burkina's price is excellent (half the price of everyone else) so I might have to reassess my schedule.

I still think it is shame that there are regular flights between the two most stable countries in the region.


User currently offlinesoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2792 times:

On tuesday u can take SAA to ABJ and connect to dkr with a very short layover!


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2744 times:



Tanzania: Air Tanzania calls off its ACMI deal with VistaGeorgia over a Boieng 737-500 hardly 2 months after the airline returned to the skies. Source
 
 

 
Libya: Afriqiyah converts 3x A321s into an order for 3x A330s Source
 
 

 
Zimbabwe: There are 'indications' EgyptAir and Qatar Airways (actually said to start next year in January) are finalising their return to Harare. Also a possible Hong Kong Airlines and Turkish Airlines entry into the market though that is just a rumour. Source

Soups, do you ever remember the old AfricanFlyer blog? Do you know what happened to it?



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User currently offlinesoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Yup i use to read it on a weekly, not sure wht happened to it


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Air Namibia (SW) will replace their 340-300 by new 330-200. See topic
A332 For Air Namibia (SW) (by 330lover Aug 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)



Britten Norman Islander VP-FBR on Falkland Islands. THAT'S FLYING!
User currently offlineOlafW From Germany, joined Jul 2009, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

My first visit to Africa is coming up and while I have sorted out the basic out- and inbounds, I am still pondering some additional day trips from Zanzibar. I see there are a lot of flights available going to Dar es Salaam, but as I will be there before getting to Zanzibar, are there any interesting other destinations? Mafia would be a cool place just for the name, but is it worth going and how are connections?
I read about Indigo Aviation and their DC-3 operations, but the last I could find on PPruNe said they were not operating, and sending an email got me a "The mailbox is full" response. Does anyone know about their status?

Thanks for your help


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting SepulTallica (Reply 5):
We run a little online paper/blog that tries to provides up-to-date info on the airlines you mentioned though as you correctly say, finding accurate info is a very rare commodity when dealing with obscure African airlines, most of whom operate on a cash basis and who therefore maintain a very low web presence, if any. West Africa is especially a douzy.

The African Aviation Tribune.

Great blog man, thanks for sharing and keeping it updated.


Some more news:
KQ to cut staff in effort to reduce rising labor costs. No mention on how many will be affected. May be on a collision course with the labor unions, let's see what happens there.
Link: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/index...le=Major-job-cuts-at-Kenya-Airways
Interesting comments at the bottom of the article.

ET orders an additional 777-200LR which will bring the total to 6. ET is also slated to receive its first 2 777F in the coming weeks. Source: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/boeing...200lr---quick-facts-20120719-01238

Quoting AF022 (Reply 12):
I have heard the Senegalese won't let ASKY into DKR. It would be much easier getting between the 3rd and 4th largest cities in West Africa if the Senegalese weren't so protective of Senegal Airlines. What ever happened to African open skies?

Good on paper but not adhered to in practice 
Quoting SepulTallica (Thread starter):
%u25AA A new African LCC "FastJet" of Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou fame, is slated to launch in October using five Airbus A319s. Once fully established it will absorb the Fly540 LCC brand currently flying in Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana and Angola. Hopefully this will be the dawn of a renaissance in African Aviation given the years of heavy protectionism most African governments have given their local aviation industries.

That's a nice start, wishing them luck.

Quoting soups (Reply 6):
TK is expanding heavilly in Africa,
Abuja, Kano, Egunu, Conakry, Freetown and Douala are next...

Very impressive expansion... I would not be surprised if they become the #1 player in the Africa-Europe routes in the next couple of years.


User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Central African Republic, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 9):
My first foray into the African aviation thread - interesting to read about a continent I haven't actually visited but surely hope to one day! Any chance ET introduces the 787 on the BOM route? That would be a sweet sight even though ET's India ops all occur in the dark...

To answer your question mayne:
787 service for Addis Ababa – Mumbai: 24AUG12, 25AUG12, 28AUG12 (BOM departure 25AUG12, 26AUG12, 29AUG12)

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 21):
Great blog man, thanks for sharing and keeping it updated.

-Thanks a bunch buddy  

Quoting OlafW (Reply 20):
My first visit to Africa is coming up and while I have sorted out the basic out- and inbounds, I am still pondering some additional day trips from Zanzibar. I see there are a lot of flights available going to Dar es Salaam, but as I will be there before getting to Zanzibar, are there any interesting other destinations? Mafia would be a cool place just for the name, but is it worth going and how are connections?
I read about Indigo Aviation and their DC-3 operations, but the last I could find on PPruNe said they were not operating, and sending an email got me a "The mailbox is full" response. Does anyone know about their status?

Thanks for your help

I'm not too familiar with Tanzania, but ZNZ, DAR and JRO are all very touristy areas. There should be a ferry service between Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar and Mafia Island though i am not too sure about its reliability (or its mortality rate for that matter    )

If need be, give Precision Air a try - relatively consistent if a bit expensive. Northern Mozambique is awesome to visit if only for the visa requirements - hardly any smelly tourists; and lots of turquoise seas and lobster - what more could you want?!



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