Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Emirates Employment Comes With Cheap Flights  
User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21625 times:

Gosh, I remember about 5 yrs back when I had a 2nd job in the evenings working at the Fed Ex AUS ramp. The perks included the same kinds of discounts as Emirates (as Fed Ex is classified as an airline) is offering to its employees, but because Fed Ex is so widely known it had the ability to provide these discounts with over 40 of the world's airlines in varying discount reciprocities.

According to the article, Emirates is providing the same oppotunities to its US staff of "discounts of up to 90 percent on standby tickets, and half-price fares for confirmed seats."

When I was with Fed Ex, for example, 6 months of service got you SWA flights R/T for $59 anywhere in the network. In yet another example, I was able to secure a standby seat over Labor Day weekend to Argentina 2 days in advance of travel by driving up from Austin to catch a DFW - EZE for $100 (that was 90% off APEX).

If you weren't traveling Int'l, you could also book the "company plane" (A300, A310, DC10) a "jump seat" behind the cockpit doors anywhere in the US domestic network for free (but ALWAYS a connection in MEM or some other focus hub) which was always an all-night affair. Not sure Fed Ex is still providing the perk.

This seems to be something new from Emirates, "After five years of employment, workers begin receiving free tickets — generally about two a year — that they can use any time" it is offering to its employees, as with Fed Ex we had it good, but not THAT good after 5 yrs of service .


http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...s/2012/07/20/gJQAh4T52W_story.html

50 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21524 times:

Wow, not nearly as good as unlimited free flights from the get go at DL and most other US airlines!  


Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24865 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21523 times:

Those perks are pretty standard internationally.

ID90 discounts have been around for ages, as well as the ID50 confirmed tickets.

Same goes with free tickets. Have friends at Virgin Atlantic that get I recall 4(?) annually.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21427 times:

I'm not sure what news this really is. Emirates' is no where near as good as the unlimited space available travel in any class of service that most US airlines offer.


If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
User currently offlineQFBA From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 20924 times:

But the airline you may fly for doesn't fly everywhere. The ID90 option is awesome to travel the world - reaching almost every corner of the globe. A far cry from some airlines route maps.

User currently offlineAAIL86 From Finland, joined Feb 2011, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 20623 times:

Quoting QFBA (Reply 4):
But the airline you may fly for doesn't fly everywhere. The ID90 option is awesome to travel the world - reaching almost every corner of the globe. A far cry from some airlines route maps.

when I worked at American, besides the staff travel passes you could get more or less unlimited ZED/ID90 tickets on pretty much any airline you can think of.

This isn't really a news item - railroads, shipping companies and airlines have been offering their staff free and reduced rate tickets since their inception....



Next
User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5567 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 20261 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Thread starter):
but because Fed Ex is so widely known it had the ability to provide these discounts with over 40 of the world's airlines in varying discount reciprocities.

Only 40? Screw that....  
Quoting GEsubsea (Thread starter):
This seems to be something new from Emirates, "After five years of employment, workers begin receiving free tickets — generally about two a year — that they can use any time" it is offering to its employees, as with Fed Ex we had it good, but not THAT good after 5 yrs of service

I had free flights on my 14th day, and ZED/ID90 fares at 6 months or 1 year depending upon the airline.

It's funny, actually... there was a person in my training class that literally did not show up on the second Friday, having hopped a flight to California.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
ID90 discounts have been around for ages

For so long, that they are slowly disappearing. ZED fares have pretty much replaced ID90s, which is nice.



Sorry for pissing on your parade....



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 19018 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Thread starter):
If you weren't traveling Int'l, you could also book the "company plane" (A300, A310, DC10) a "jump seat" behind the cockpit doors anywhere in the US domestic network for free (but ALWAYS a connection in MEM or some other focus hub) which was always an all-night affair. Not sure Fed Ex is still providing the perk

Didn't that 'perk' get binned when a jumpseat rider decided to overpower the flightcrew? Wasn't a near fatal accident narrowly avoided?


User currently onlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2856 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 17807 times:

I think most of us here are very familiar with the perks that come with employment in the airline industry, so the gist of this article is hardly newsworthy. However, there was one very interesting bit - Mr. Cadeaux has already been working for EK in Washington for 10 months now - EK's IAD flights don't even start until September 12th! Given that he started back in September of last year, I can only assume the interview process for his position began at least a month or two before that. Then they've hired 17 other folks as well, long before the first flight with revenue pax comes in. Just goes to show how much time, planning, and money goes into these new stations for global long haul carriers!

On another note, it will be interesting to see how EK does to IAD. UA is now well established on the IAD-DXB route, with plenty of IAD hub feed to boot. Meanwhile, QR enjoys a strong codeshare relationship with UA to support its IAD-DOH flight. EK will certainly have a myriad of onward connectivity beyond DXB (Africa, the Middle East, and particularly the Indian Subcontinent spring to mind), but local FF loyalty to UA and its partners, not to mention the government policy of flying U.S. carriers - or at the very least, a U.S. carrier codeshare like QR offers - whenever possible, could prove challenging to EK. They enjoyed first mover advantage in all of their other U.S. markets, and still enjoy a niche market position to the Middle East out of SFO, SEA, and DFW. This will be the first time they add/enter a U.S. market with strong, established competition.



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently onlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 954 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 17809 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Thread starter):
half-price fares for confirmed seats."

Interestingly, this is something we still do not have in the States. Our discounts are a maximum of around 30%. I'd be curious to know: is the 50% discount applicable to ANY fare, or unrestricted fares only? If it's any fare, that would be an absolute bargain in the US; you could easily fly coast-to-coast round-trip for around $180 confirmed at a 50% discount. That would be very tempting to buy instead of sweating it out at the gate at noon on a Sunday, especially on holiday weekends. What is keeping US carriers from offering this discount to its employees? Such a program could also be extended to other carriers; you could have a "confirmed ZED" program whereby you paid set fares based on distance for confirmed travel on a variety of carriers instead of standby. The problem is, that would be almost useless in a number of European markets, where confirmed tickets are often about as much as standby ZED tickets due to the taxes.


User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 17005 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):

Wow, not nearly as good as unlimited free flights from the get go at DL and most other US airlines!

I wonder why most airlines are bankrupt in a certain country while some consistently turn in a handsome profit!   



A310/A319/20/21/A332/3/A343/6/A388/B732/5/7/8/B742/S/4/B752/B763/B772/3/W/E145/J41/MD11/83/90
User currently offlinevgnatl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 16246 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 6):
It's funny, actually... there was a person in my training class that literally did not show up on the second Friday, having hopped a flight to California.

When I was at OH... missing a shift because you were NRSA somewhere was grounds for a minimum 6 month suspension of flight benefits. That said, back when CVG was a major hub in the system, there were many that would hop flights to LAS, SEA, or LAX for the weekend between training classes as opposed to using the company positive space booking to go home. We actually had someone at my station that went to LGW for the weekend.

ID90, ID50, and ZED fares are pretty much a standard offering from airlines. Typically the perks extend to hotels, cruises, rental cars, etc. also, with some highly discounted options. For me, one of the biggest perks of the airline industry was the benefits. in the 3 years I worked for OH, I made 4 trips to London to visit family, all on DL (at the cost of about $70/trip). You certainly don't make any money as a college student working on the ramp, but the perks do a good job at offsetting it. You have to consider the "total compensation", including benefits.

We had several gentlemen at our station that were retired from full careers and picked up a part time job at OH. The reality is that (at least then, not sure about now) you only had to work 20 hrs a week to qualify for flight benefits, which were extended to your immediate family.



Work Hard. Fly Right. Continental Airlines
User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15334 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
ID90 discounts have been around for ages, as well as the ID50 confirmed tickets.

That's what I was thinking too. I can't think of any airline that doesn't offer its staff at least 3 free flights a year plus all the ID90s and ID50s on top.

The ID50s were only value for money when you think it's a 50% discount on a full fare, which most travelling public would never pay.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14988 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 10):
I wonder why most airlines are bankrupt in a certain country while some consistently turn in a handsome profit!

Cutthroat competition. If US airlines started charging their employees the same as certain foreign airlines, no one would want to work at them.



Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14177 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):

Virgin crew get 7 free round trips a year for anyone on their friends and family list.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13441 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 10):

I wonder why most airlines are bankrupt in a certain country while some consistently turn in a handsome profit!

The US airlines have had to slash wages because of the financial pressures on them. Offering unlimited travel benefits has very low cost, and there are some cost recovery fees that the airlines get. It is a way to increase staff compensation without having it come off the bottom line. It makes sense for them to offer it, whereas airlines that pay their employees adequately like Emirates don’t need to offer other incentives to keep people. Non-rev load factors on the major US airlines tend to be about 2-3%.



If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13381 times:

I'd hate for my flight benefits to be downgraded to the Emirates level. I've got system wide free space available economy, dirt cheap first, and jumpseat access to basically anywhere I need to go my airline doesn't take me. On top of that, I've got handfuls of buddy passes which gives heavily discounted flights to anyone who wants one. As far as FedEx, I believe I ship with them for 1/4 of the price...or just jumpseat with them, grab a snackbox and a sleeping bag from the crew.  

User currently offlinemd3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13378 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 10):
I wonder why most airlines are bankrupt in a certain country while some consistently turn in a handsome profit!

You're implying that free space-available travel for employees is the cause of US airlines bankruptcy? By charging a minimal amount only a couple years later, they'd all now be turning a handsome profit?

That's beyond illogical.


User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 489 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12713 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 15):
The US airlines have had to slash wages because of the financial pressures on them. Offering unlimited travel benefits has very low cost, and there are some cost recovery fees that the airlines get. It is a way to increase staff compensation without having it come off the bottom line. It makes sense for them to offer it, whereas airlines that pay their employees adequately like Emirates don’t need to offer other incentives to keep people. Non-rev load factors on the major US airlines tend to be about 2-3%.

You're absolutely right. We don't get paid nearly enough, and so if our only compensation is truly the ability to fly the world for free, or practically free internationally. Then it makes the 10x-16 hour days I do here in Chicago, to allow me to live back in San Diego totally worth it.

Additionally, a lot of pilots (like 90%) of flights crews do not live in their base. It's a cost of living thing.

Also have to remember that Ek has a business plan that works and can support that salary level. People who pay $100 to fly transcon don't support us to do our job as best we can, or as best we care.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11725 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 10):
Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):

Wow, not nearly as good as unlimited free flights from the get go at DL and most other US airlines!

I wonder why most airlines are bankrupt in a certain country while some consistently turn in a handsome profit!

Employees get a seat that would be otherwise empty. The airline loses no money due to an employee occupying that otherwise empty seat. It costs the airline a miniscule amount of money to provide the employee a benefit of tremendous value. You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about. Maybe that apple of yours has been in a cloud too long.



Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11648 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
.........as well as the ID50 confirmed tickets.

Does anyone know if UA offers this to their employees? I know F9 does it for their employees when I was working there.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineBAStar1 From UK - England, joined Dec 2011, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 days ago) and read 10819 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 12):
I can't think of any airline that doesn't offer its staff at least 3 free flights a year plus all the ID90s and ID50s on top.

Well, BA for one. I get one free F class firm, but that is because I am reasonably senior. For everyone else there is a five year wait and then it's a free J class firm.

QF doesn't give any free tickets.

Of course there are always ID90s and ZEDs.


User currently offlinexpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 633 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 days ago) and read 10737 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Does anyone know if UA offers this to their employees? I know F9 does it for their employees when I was working there.

ID20 if I remember it right without checking right now.   Not all that great, but the rest of the benefits are good.


User currently offlinetcxdegsy From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10407 times:

TCX used to give crew flights for £25!
All Eomployes in the in the Thomas Cook Group could book inhouse Tour Op HOLIDAYS (flights and Accom) for £99 for a week, if booked up to 48hrs in advance.. and whilst this was supposed to be apartments, there were occasionsl when you could get All Inclusive for the same price.

You could claim 75% discount if booked in advance (no more than 8 weeks ahead if long haul), and after 5 yrs service, you got 2 x 75% discounts per year, and could give your travelling companion one of your two discounts so both could benefit

With contract changes in recent years, the Holiday discounts dropped to 50% for new staff.



next flights: BA1441 0566 0581 1446 EDI-LHR-MXP-LHR-EDI
User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5567 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10338 times:

Quoting vgnatl747 (Reply 11):
When I was at OH... missing a shift because you were NRSA somewhere was grounds for a minimum 6 month suspension of flight benefits.

My airline does it on a case-by-case basis. In my story, the guy wasn't interested in the job or the long-term benefits... he wanted a free ride to Cali (and maybe some spending money).



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
25 AirframeAS : ID50 is offered at F9. The only way to get those tickets (and sometimes they are not worth it because it is 50% off the Classic Plus fare only) is to
26 WJ : IIRC, at UA flight benefits kick in right away. Free in coach, some costs for premium classes, all unlimited. Plus some fee waived passes for all cab
27 AirframeAS : I know that. However, that is not what I was asking. I was asking about ID50, confirmed space discount.
28 777ord : We get ID20's..... 20% off a confirmed seat, and 2 free bags up to 50lbs each
29 Maverick623 : Call up Res, give them your employee number, and Bob's your uncle.
30 FURUREFA : One can also do it online. And its 20% off ANY published fare, not just full Y.
31 mayor : I sincerely doubt if providing travel benefits is going to hurt the bottom line.....if anything, as in DL's case, the money they make off of buddy pa
32 boacboac : Back in the mid 90s, working for United i spent several days flying round the US for virtually free, my goal was to fly on one of every aircraft type
33 mayor : One of the guys I worked with in SLC took a day trip from there to NRT and back.......the immigration officials at NRT thought he was nuts. I once to
34 boacboac : I have done 3 or 4 day trips to NYC from LHR, there and back same day, and did a LHR-IAD trip once there and back in a a day to buy a new pair of jean
35 KaiGywer : All DL employees get the same benefits now, regardless of status. So you can have a Ready Reserve working a shift a month with full flight benefits.
36 Post contains images rwy04lga : He said free. Free on DL only for spouses, children under 21, parents. 8 Buddy passes for friends offer reduced fare. You and I are like two drops of
37 777ord : Did you get F at all?? I've done 73 flights since jan and only got F domestically 3 times. The international ones were all F and J (THANKFULLY!) I'm
38 mayor : My mistake.......I saw the words "friends & family" and I automatically thought about DL's buddy passes.
39 malaysia : We are all nuts, I have done Day Trips to NRT, CGK, HNL, TPE, weekend trips to BKK etc to just hangout with friends and attend parties. :P On the othe
40 mayor : Unless I'm mistaken, isn't it STILL this way at DL, at least at the stations that have the gate screens?
41 boacboac : Not one first class seat at all , got Y+ a few times which was fine , many times I was number one on the standby list but like number 25 on the upgra
42 rwy04lga : Domestically, yes...However, on International flights you 'almost always' get up front. Only one flight (JFK-BOM) did I not get B/E.
43 Post contains images Maverick623 : Only once (out of about a dozen trips) did a buddy pass traveler of mine or my cousin's sit in the back of a TATL flight, and that was only because t
44 Post contains images mayor : Almost all of my buddy pass users have ridden up front. On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I did.
45 Super80DFW : Since the beginning of 2012, I've nonreved on 86 flights. Last week, mhkansan and myself decided we didn't wanna spend our day off at home, so we flew
46 Post contains images KaiGywer : This only works if you manually check in using DLTerm though. The kiosk/online will activate with any seat. It does. And if there are no gate screens
47 MEL : I've done IAD-LHR-NRT-ORD-IAD continuous to see how fast I could go around the world (took 41 hours). That's when I had non-rev'd so much, I completel
48 FlyASAGuy2005 : LOL. My absolute favorite is "Hawaii the long way". IDK but I think it's against my religion to fly long-haul in coach. There's pretty much a 0% chan
49 Post contains images KaiGywer : I always wanted to do this, but never got around to it. I did daytrip HNL once, but just to/from the US. I bet it's a habit from NW who didn't have s
50 rwy04lga : I'm thinking JFK-AMS-BOM (ZED on CX) HKG-DTW-LGA. No hurry, though. (C'mon DL, fill that last gap from BOM-HKG) From JFK..last Oct...I did HKG and ba
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Delta Pampers Athletes With Special Flights posted Wed Jan 5 2011 17:11:25 by catiii
Eddie Stobart Planning Cheap Flights From Southend posted Tue Apr 13 2010 13:17:38 by nighthawk
VA MEL-JNB Comes With Extra "baggage" posted Fri Mar 26 2010 06:25:58 by tayser
Does Emirates Have Any A/c With Special Liveries posted Tue Feb 23 2010 08:13:31 by lalib
Emirates To Paris With A380 29 December posted Mon Dec 28 2009 10:44:15 by Haan
Emirates Launch Seoul With A380 14 December posted Sun Dec 13 2009 12:35:02 by Haan
Need Help With UA Flights posted Mon Apr 20 2009 11:19:23 by Rscaife1682
''Athens Airways'' Launches With EUR1 Flights posted Wed Feb 4 2009 11:16:08 by OA260
Whats Up With NW Flights To ATL? posted Mon Jan 12 2009 19:03:16 by Swissair4ever
Problems With Award Flights To Alaska posted Wed Jun 18 2008 04:47:36 by Ushermittwoch