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User currently offlinekeegd76 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Aug 2009, 111 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3745 times:
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Did a search of the forum but didn't find this mentioned anywhere. Apologies if already covered.

BBC reporting that an 11-year-old managed to get through MAN security and on to a flight to Rome. Flight was airborne before anyone realised the kid was on board.

While the airline, Jet2, definitely dropped the ball in not checking for a boarding pass and then somehow coming up with a valid headcount despite having one extra passenger, the airport is also being blamed for not checking for a passport when he was going through security.

Is G4S involved in airport security?   

The 'official' line is that the boy mingled with another family at both security and the gate but still with all the paranoia at the airports these days how is this still possible?

Full story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18979032

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 30084 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Certainly is a huge security breech although he was subject to being scanned. They failed according to the article on three times whilst getting into the security area, boarding gate and boarding the aircraft itself. The guy is interested in aviation so maybe a future Anetter   Would make for a good TR lol...

Im sure his Mother will give him a good talking to but I hope he enjoyed his trip. Yes he did wrong but he also highlighted important issues that need dealt with by Manchester Airport and Jet2 . They should send him a model or something  

User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3177 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Apparently, the kid even went through the rapiscan cue. Why didn't I do this when I was 11? I'm only four years older than he is... maybe there is some hope...  

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User currently offlinefalkerker From Seychelles, joined Apr 2012, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Would make for a good TR lol...

"here I am, hoping the security guy doesn't realize I have no boarding pass" LOL.

They should really check into what went wrong, this kid just wanted to grab a free flight that doesn't mean a security breach like this shouldn´t get a full inquiry.

User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2117 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Terminal 3 security was a nightmare yesterday when I passed through, with immense queues and scanner staff checking boarding cards (which I've never witnessed before). Utterly ridiculous state of affairs - as usual, a knee jerk reaction well after the horse has bolted!!

User currently offlineeurowings From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

Here's what I think happened based on the reports at www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18980403.

He's an eleven year old and it's the start of the school holidays so MAN Terminal 1 is packed out with families and groups. Kids often aren't trusted to keep hold of their own boarding passes and passport, which is entirely sensible. The lad mingles with a family or different families from airside to the plane and they think he's just ahead of/behind his own family, or something like that.

Manchester Airport no longer has dedicated staff checking boarding passes at the entrance to security, it's done by busy screeners when passengers are putting their belongings on the belt. These screeners aren't necessarily in a position to thoroughly check each child in a large group (they might not be able to see them even). Note; in Europe (unlike what the TSA do in the US), security checkpoints don't check ID, that's not part of their job.

Boarding the plane, mum/dad hands over boarding passes and passports to the handling agents and later boarding pass stubs to the cabin crew, this lad meanwhile mingling in with this family who perhaps aren't paying as much attention to him as they should.

Jet2's policy was that no headcount was needed, if the aircraft had been boarded via an airbridge directly from the terminal. All UK and Ireland based airlines the cabin crew have to check boarding passes, but headcounts are not compulsory. However, many countries don't have that requirement either.

Jet2's policy was not slack at all, since British Airways currently does not routinely perform headcounts either in these circumstances. Not that the media would tell you that. easyJet and Ryanair have compulsory headcounts on all flights (then again, the latter avoids airbridges wherever possible) and this incident may result in this procedure becoming mandatory on all airlines.

[Edited 2012-07-26 06:41:38]

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User currently offlineanshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

I've flown through Manchester Airport quite a few times and not once do I recall my passport being checked anywhere but at the check in counter. How does the airport manage without passport control for departing passengers?

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