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Iran Civil Aviation Org Ranks First In ME Region  
User currently offlineglobalflyer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1945 times:

According to the recently appointed head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, Hamid Reza Pahlevani, his agency has been awarded first place by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) in a regional ranking:

http://en.trend.az/regions/iran/2048172.html

This is a pretty amazing turnaround considering the poor levels of air safety standards and oversight the CAO displayed under its previous boss, Reza Nakhjavani.

I wonder why Dubai didn't place first?

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7112 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting globalflyer777 (Thread starter):
This is a pretty amazing turnaround considering the poor levels of air safety standards and oversight the CAO displayed under its previous boss, Reza Nakhjavani.

That is quite astounding. They must take REALLY good care of their old workhorses.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2958 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
They must take REALLY good care of their old workhorses.

They do, or they'd be falling out of the sky. How many fatal crashes has Iran had in the last decade or so? I'm thinking somewhere around four... IR had not, until about a year ago, had a crash in many decades. I wouldn't doubt comercial aviation in Iran at all; I'd fly on an IR plane any day. (Specially if it was the -SP... one can dream.)



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User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Wonderful news! This just goes to prove how pointless the Western sanctions are in a multilateral world.

I wonder what impact the removal of sanctions against Iran would have on the airlines in the Persian Gulf.


User currently offlineglobalflyer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 3):
I wonder what impact the removal of sanctions against Iran would have on the airlines in the Persian Gulf.

That's a very interesting point you raise. It seems clear that the Persian Gulf region airlines (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways... etc) have taken full advantage of the situation which sanctions have put Iran's airlines in.

I find it truly amazing that despite the fact that countries like the UAE (especially Dubai) are overflowing with the latest technology and resources, Iran has still managed to triumph over them in the regional ICAO rankings. This is all the more impressive considering the fact that Iran is currently battling with the severest sanctions they have ever faced.

I wonder what explanation Dubai's GCAA could give to this?


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Has the ICAO confirmed this?.

User currently offlineglobalflyer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 5):
Has the ICAO confirmed this?.

The head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, Hamid Reza Pahlevani has confirmed it. Isn't that sufficient?


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8151 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Quoting globalflyer777 (Reply 6):
The head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, Hamid Reza Pahlevani has confirmed it. Isn't that sufficient?

Uh, no!  
And Iranian government official, saying Iran is best. Where's the news in that?


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

Quoting globalflyer777 (Reply 4):

I could not agree more with you. I guess this recognition says a lot about the Iranians and their ability to make something great with little resources they have.


I think the day when sanctions against Iran are removed, Persian Gulf airlines will start to struggle. One, Iran's geographical position is far more threatening than that of Turkey (in relation to Turkish Airlines' growth and its impact on the Gulf carriers) and two, Iran has a massive O&D demand which will stimulate growth and facilitate frequencies.

I think if this does happen Emirates' network in India would suffer the most. Due to Iran's good ties with India I think the access of Iranian airlines to the Indian market would be far more liberal than that of the Persian Gulf carriers.


User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Quoting globalflyer777 (Reply 6):
The head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, Hamid Reza Pahlevani has confirmed it. Isn't that sufficient?

I'd be sceptical .. can't find a word about it on ICAO's own website. And, what about the rest of the ranking results ?



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User currently offlinesolarflyer22 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Nov 2009, 948 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 8):
I think if this does happen Emirates' network in India would suffer the most. Due to Iran's good ties with India I think the access of Iranian airlines to the Indian market would be far more liberal than that of the Persian Gulf carriers.

I agree totally. I've flown into IKA a couple of times and its a great transit point to India. Indian passengers are also price conscious more so than Arab clientele and I don't think some of Emirates high end features do them much good.

Quoting globalflyer777 (Reply 4):
I find it truly amazing that despite the fact that countries like the UAE (especially Dubai) are overflowing with the latest technology and resources, Iran has still managed to triumph over them in the regional ICAO rankings. This is all the more impressive considering the fact that Iran is currently battling with the severest sanctions they have ever faced.

Iran has done a great job keeping things going but its unfortunate that some of Mahan Air's A340s can't get spare parts. They've done a great job regardless of ICAO's or anyone else's rating. Their ATC is also well regarded. I think Dubai will be better in time but right now their explosive growth has led to some under qualified people in the ranks. Its important to point out too all of these sanctions on parts are US and EU lead, not UN.


User currently offlineglobalflyer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 10):
its unfortunate that some of Mahan Air's A340s can't get spare parts.

Are you sure that Mahan Air operates A340's?


User currently offlinesolarflyer22 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Nov 2009, 948 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Check that, it's Iran Aseman, another private airline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ir...rlines_Airbus_A340-300_Sharifi.jpg


User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Without the sanctions in place IR could possibly be among the world top airlines, even beyond what EK is today, maybe even the first airline by international passengers in total.

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