tim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 707 posts, RR: 3 Posted (2 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 7814 times:
With SQ recently announcing they are going to 4 x daily 777 Perth - Singapore services and EK soon to go 3 x daily 777 Perth-Dubai along with CX announcing double daily PER-HKG, QR upgrading to daily PER-DOH 77L services etc the list goes on.
Out of the above what interests me is the EK/SQ services. Surely one of these two are getting close in the not too distant future to offering a regular A380 service to Perth. I know they always say that PAX want frequency but I still believe the A380 offers a trump card over the competition. Lots of the general public still seek it out to fly on it especially when there is no other services using that ac from their port.
Perth airport have announced their A380 ready gates have been brought forward and will be A380 capable from next year sometime. Has SQ/EK had discussions or dropped a hint about this?
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8907 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 7762 times:
Quoting tim (Thread starter): With SQ recently announcing they are going to 4 x daily 777 Perth - Singapore services and EK soon to go 3 x daily 777 Perth-Dubai along with CX announcing double daily PER-HKG, QR upgrading to daily PER-DOH 77L services etc the list goes on.
Sigapore is 4 hours from Perth, unlikely SQ will fly such a short haul A380, HKG to SIN is a differet market. Emirates is far more likely since they have mny more A380 then SQ and Dubai is much further.
9VSWR From Singapore, joined Jun 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 7696 times:
It's highly doubtful that SQ would operate A380s to PER; They haven't operated aircraft fitted with First Class to Perth in recent memory. SQ has been serving PER with 2-class 772s and 333s although there seem to have been some instances where 773s and unrefurbished SQ-series (9V-SQ*) 772s were operated to PER of late. I believe the F-cabins were either blocked-off or used as J-cabins for a few very lucky pax.
For a regional route like PER, I would imagine frequency would take precedence over capacity for SQ as the A380 is simply too big an aircraft to fly to PER.
I reckon there would have to be a huge change in the operating circumstances for SQ to even consider sending the Suites-equipped A380 to PER.
To an extent, but I don't think EK need to offer four a day. It's a long flight to DXB, and virtually all of those pax are continuing on to Europe (or Africa or eastern Mediterranean) so by the time they arrive at their destination, they will have been travelling for up to 20 hours, so none of them are going to walk straight into a business meeting, so the difference to almost all pax between arriving at 6am or 8am, or 4pm or 7pm, is nil. I would think double daily is enough frequency to please most travellers, three tops.
In my opinion EK are adding 777s for capacity, not frequency, and are perhaps short of A380s, and there will be a shuffle of schedule when more aircraft are delivered - one of those 777s will vanish and another will become an A380.
(Out of curiosity, do EK offer PER-DXB-JFK or PER-DXB-YYZ? Are North American destinations actively marketed from PER?)
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KFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5861 times:
IMHO, for SQ what matters in this market is the frequency - hence they are unlikely to upgrade to A380 anytime soon. But for EK, they have now added flights to PER out of all three banks - so the next logical step would be to upgrade one of those to A380. However, I do not see this happening any time soon - at least not before April 2013.
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Tdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 479 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5762 times:
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 16): Now that is interesting.....is that mineral related traffic?
Chevron, Shell, BHP, Fluor, WorleyParsins, etc. Basically if you drive down the I-10W Energy Corridor, all those companies are sending people to PER and EK takes quite a few. QF still carries the majority of the traffic via LAX and DFW, but that's split over multiple flights. EK just has the one flight, so the traffic is more concentrated. It will be interesting to see how much of this traffic QR siphons off EK with the launch of DOH-PER.
[Edited 2012-07-27 09:47:43]
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Sydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3294 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4942 times:
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 9): In my opinion EK are adding 777s for capacity, not frequency, and are perhaps short of A380s, and there will be a shuffle of schedule when more aircraft are delivered - one of those 777s will vanish and another will become an A380.
It'll also be more interesting once EK, and EY, hit the maximum of UAE's alloted freqencies under the bilateral. Then we'll see if all of those 777's stay or if EK decided to upgrade some more Australia services to the A380. Frankly, if they do start doing that then SQ, even if it is just on PER-SIN, will need to start considering the same or risk losing premium pax to EK.
fiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4369 times:
I think you are all a lot of spoil sports. We only ever get to see an A380 in Perth when there is a medical emergency! And think of what it could do for the new viewing platform numbers watching on of those birds come in to land...ah well we can all dream I suppose...