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Airports Generating Their Own Solar Electricity  
User currently offlinecmoltay From Turkey, joined Jun 2007, 132 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

How widespread is the use of photovoltaics or similar technology by airports for generating on site a fraction of their electricity demand? By nature airports tend to have the necessary conditions for a successful PV system implementation, free land, large roofs, no shadowing structures... Are we able to make a list of such "green" airports?

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User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4784 times:
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http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/10/...ommercial-airports-in-solar-power/

DEN, according to this article, generates about 6% of it's total need via it's solar panel farms.


User currently offlinekearnet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

im not sure what percentage of annual use is generated, but I know both MHT and BOS have Solar instalation on the top of their parking garages.

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2754 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 1):
DEN, according to this article, generates about 6% of it's total need via it's solar panel farms.

I'm surprised it's only at 6%, with all of the sunshine that is there. However, according to the article, it still leads U.S. airports with this figure.

Hopefully, going forward, this percentage will go upward with all of the land and sunshine that DEN has. And also, may a lot of other airports also find this method useful in providing their power needs, along with wind and other alternatives for energy.

But I guess right now the costs of alternative energies are still high so that fossil fuels are being used for power demands, and may that someday soon change, where alternatives will be lower than fossil fuels.

 


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19545 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

If what you are describing is covering the non-tarmac airport grounds in PV panels, there are some problems: PV panels are expensive, so there is a huge initial investment. There is also a safety issue because you need to make sure that if one of the A/C goes off the tarmac, the PV panels and support structures don't, say, pierce the fuel tanks (that makes all parties involved look awfully silly). Wind emplacements have even worse issues, given that they have to be tall.

Placing these structures on top of the airport buildings works a lot better, but involves less available surface area for energy collection.

What about growing jatropha or just using the grass clippings for bioenergy?


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

ABQ has installed solar panels on top of its parking structure. The system was turned on last month.


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User currently offlineSFOHORIZON From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

SFO has a large solar array on top of Terminal 3, about 456 kilowatts I believe. It can be viewed from the airtrain as you drive by Terminal 3. The electricity supply for SFO is also 100% greenhouse gas-free. SFO is definitely one of the greenest airports out there today.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Zurich Airport (ZRH) has solar panels on Dock E. I don't know how much they produce.

User currently offlinewhatusaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Here is a link to the project at FAT.

http://www.icwt.net/EventDocs/Solar/...se%20Study%20ICWT%20Dec%202010.pdf


User currently offlinecmoltay From Turkey, joined Jun 2007, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 3):
I'm surprised it's only at 6%, with all of the sunshine that is there. However, according to the article, it still leads U.S. airports with this figure.

The sunshine also means a huge cooling load for the buildings and huge consumption.   I know about the PV system on ground at the Athens Airport (Eleftherios Venizelos), it is 8,05 MW and accounts for 9% of total consumption. However, when it is producing peak power (clear sky, vertical sunshine) it is able to meet 33% of the peak consumption of the airport, decreasing the peak power demand which is good for the network operator.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
If what you are describing is covering the non-tarmac airport grounds in PV panels, there are some problems: PV panels are expensive, so there is a huge initial investment. There is also a safety issue because you need to make sure that if one of the A/C goes off the tarmac, the PV panels and support structures don't, say, pierce the fuel tanks (that makes all parties involved look awfully silly). Wind emplacements have even worse issues, given that they have to be tall.

As you point out, usually building roofs are covered or open ground not in the vicinity of the tarmac. However I have seen one example where the panels are close to the runway @ US Virgin Islands. Photo is attached below.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25145 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Geneva airport has a major solar project in progress, in conjunction with CERN, the large international nuclear research organization located on the Swiss/French border about 2 km from the airport. GVA airport has had other smaller solar installations for several years. CERN and GVA airport press releases re the latest project below.
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/press...eleases/releases2012/PR07.12E.html
http://www.gva.ch/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-468/1296_read-10048/

Related video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5sXWGvVYbg
Longer version (in French):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyFZv1gWh4c&feature=youtu.be

As a sidenote, CERN is where the World Wide Web was invented by Tim Berners-Lee when he worked there in the 1980s and early '90s.


User currently offlineBeeski From US Virgin Islands, joined Dec 2006, 53 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting cmoltay (Reply 9):
As you point out, usually building roofs are covered or open ground not in the vicinity of the tarmac. However I have seen one example where the panels are close to the runway @ US Virgin Islands. Photo is attached below.

The panels at STT are right along taxiway Alpha....one day a 757 is going to rev up its engines....and we'll have panels flying into the airport road (I don't think the Diamond DA-40 I fly is much of a threat to the panels).


User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

My two home airports BOS and SJC both have solar arrays.

EDIT: The airport I learned to fly out of, BED, also generates solar power.

[Edited 2012-07-27 18:30:05]

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 3808 times:
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Quoting point2point (Reply 3):

surprised? I'm not. It is the biggest waste of money. It certainly hasn't even probably come close to generating the savings to offset the costs.



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 3800 times:

Baltimore has installed solar panels on their big parking garage. You know, the one you have to take a bus from to get to the terminal.


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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 13):
surprised? I'm not. It is the biggest waste of money. It certainly hasn't even probably come close to generating the savings to offset the costs.

Time to read up. Plenty of installations generating nice returns.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 3752 times:
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Quoting cmf (Reply 15):

yeah right.



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User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3609 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

The price of solar has plummeted, making it almost as cheap as coal.

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3472 times:

Read this some time ago...

Alice Springs Airport in desert parts of Australia has solar.

http://alicespringsairport.com.au/property/solar-power-station


User currently offlineSenchingo From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

MUC has this system and is using the term "green" airport frequently.

It has one of the biggest photovoltaics ever built for an airport on Terminal 2, covering 3600m² and producing 445000 kWh p.a.

MUC uses electric cars, cars running on bio fuel and other renewable energy sources.

The upcoming Satellite will also have features such as using the passengers bridges for cooling or heating the a/c instead of leaving the APU running, isolated transport stairs which don't require heating/cooling, special walls which use flowing air for heating/cooling etc.

For specific details (german only):
http://www.munich-airport.de/media/d...ionen/de/umwelterklaerung_2011.pdf


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 16):
yeah right.

You can't rely on PV for 100% of your electricity but if you need electricity during sun hours it is very reasonable to expect 10 - 15% return over financing and all other operating costs. For a home using most electricity during dark hours it is much more difficult.

But hey, much easier to dismiss things you don't like.


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2754 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 13):
surprised? I'm not. It is the biggest waste of money. It certainly hasn't even probably come close to generating the savings to offset the costs.

A bit, yes.... supposedly they are manufacturing these panels somewhere just a few miles from the airport.....

And at what point alternatives are on the cost/benefits scale, I'm not sure w/o doing a lot of googling, etc, but hopefully the costs will be reduced drastically at some near time, so that the benefits become more pronounced and decisive, and everyone can start at least weaning off fossils in some measurable way.......




 


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11642 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
There is also a safety issue because you need to make sure that if one of the A/C goes off the tarmac, the PV panels and support structures don't, say, pierce the fuel tanks (that makes all parties involved look awfully silly). Wind emplacements have even worse issues, given that they have to be tall.

Any instillation would need to be outside of the runway/taxiway strip or safety areas and below the transitional/approach/departure surfaces. At most airports that rules out the majority of 'available' space.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
What about growing jatropha or just using the grass clippings for bioenergy?

Jathropha's height means it would encounter the same issues as solar panels. Also, although it isn't picky about soils, it is about location - needs to be sub-tropical or tropical, and it only grows up to around 2000ft. I've seen grass bailed at some airports, I'm not sure what it gets used for though.

Quoting cmoltay (Reply 9):
As you point out, usually building roofs are covered or open ground not in the vicinity of the tarmac. However I have seen one example where the panels are close to the runway @ US Virgin Islands. Photo is attached below.
Quoting Beeski (Reply 11):
The panels at STT are right along taxiway Alpha....one day a 757 is going to rev up its engines....and we'll have panels flying into the airport road (I don't think the Diamond DA-40 I fly is much of a threat to the panels).

Yes they wouldn't be allowed that close to an active runway.

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 16):
yeah right.

Yeah, actually. I've looked into this scenario and the returns aren't bad. One scheme in the UK even installs panels on surplus land for nothing, you then pay a fee (market rate of even lower) per unit for the power you draw and the rest is sold to the national grid. To me though it's the sustainable intent which is most valuable, especially from a PR point of view.


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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3127 times:

AKL has solar panels on its new pier alongside waste water management. They also have these screens up informing the passengers of these initiatives:




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User currently offlinecmoltay From Turkey, joined Jun 2007, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Thank you guys for all the replies, this will be most helpful for a research paper İ am putting together.

25 aklrno : According to the sign shown above AKL had generated 84 KwH for the day. I suspect the computer tracking it and the display ate up a bunch of that! Eve
26 Post contains links LV : I think LAS is building a solar area in the buffer zone it bought for noise reduction with the surrounding neighborhood. It's been a while since I've
27 Post contains links ANM604 : YVR has a fairly substantial Photovoltaic (aka "Solar Panel") system installed, I believe it's been in use for 10+ years by now. They have figured out
28 cmf : It is not. The number of sun hours and intensity changes over the year and right now it is pretty much at its lowest in AKL. Assumptions are dangerou
29 Post contains links OlympicATH : According to this, the world's largest is in Athens (or at least it was one year ago): http://www.hochtief-airport.com/hta_en/300.jhtml
30 aklrno : Here's some better info on AKL from a 2008 press release: "New Zealand's sunny climate will help light the pier through 300m square meters of solar pa
31 johnclipper : I always thought BKK, SIN and HKG were perfect candidates - but don't a lot or any there.
32 gigneil : It certainly hasn't even probably? Most massive solar installations repay themselves in a short (5-10) year timespan in Colorado. NS
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